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  • čas přidán 7. 10. 2023
  • The New Toyota Crown is part sedan, part SUV, so we’re calling it a Sedan-UV. And our guys really don’t agree if it’s any good or not. During this review they debate why it exists, who it’s for, and where it belongs in the market. There’s an argument brewing because of the Crown. And lots of bodies fit in the trunk! Join us for a Test Drive!
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  • @toy4bob
    @toy4bob Před 8 měsíci +17

    So tired of many reviewers of the Crown crying about its not a sedan and its not an suv. Who cares, I don't. After years owning Honda accords, we wanted a more quiet and smoother ride. Went looking at Lexus and similar sedans, because my wife, who this is technically her car, doesn't want or like SUV's. Yes that's an unpopular opinion in todays America, but it is what it is. Anyway, the Lexus hybrid sedans don't offer awd, and they sit too low. Climbing in and out of this car is great, not the oh my knees and back trying to get in and out, it is much easier than sedans, without the hassle of climbing into an SUV, which due to some mobility issues, my wife just can't get in some SUV's. We drove the new accord hybrid, which again is not awd, and it is still a noisy rougher riding car. We opted for luxury plus awd and for us, a preferred ride height. We absolutely love our Crown limited.

  • @55stevieray
    @55stevieray Před 8 měsíci +24

    I have had my Crown Limited for a month and love the vehicle. The ride is library quiet and so comfortable. Go test drive a crown and see for yourself. It has consistently exceeded the EPA mileage ratings.

    • @kenhoward3512
      @kenhoward3512 Před 8 měsíci

      Of course, virtually everybody loves the new car they just chose to buy.

    • @afrofree4950
      @afrofree4950 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kenhoward3512yeah 1 month is nothing

  • @Neudezign
    @Neudezign Před 8 měsíci +20

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. I'm kind of aging myself here but, as soon as I saw this thing it made me instantly think of the old AMC Eagle SX/4.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci

      But with modern styling, dependability, sportiness, big size, lots of power, luxury and efficiency. Actually the complete opposite of a AMC Eagle. Your thinking of a Subaru Outback maybe. Maybe you should buy an SUV so you can't find it in the store parking lot because everyone else has the same looking POS. Wait, you probably already did and you already have that problem.

  • @wackit6756
    @wackit6756 Před 8 měsíci +43

    I think everyone is missing the obvious point and potential appeal of this car…in the snow belt states this is a win! All wheel drive and raised up suspension but not an SUV, much like the old AMC Eagle of the 80's. I think it will do well.✌️

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Do well? Top trim Platinum is 70k including taxes and fees. Way overpriced.

    • @toy4bob
      @toy4bob Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@braetonwilson4296 its 56k, not 70

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci +3

      after taxes and fees, it's 70k.

    • @toy4bob
      @toy4bob Před 8 měsíci +5

      Yea ok, maybe where you live. Maybe you should move. Yes I would have sales tax of 4k, sure as heck dont have another 11k in "fees". Prob a few hundred in plates, that's it

    • @tonymo2359
      @tonymo2359 Před 8 měsíci +7

      I paid $57K ODT for my Crown Platinum, I love it

  • @kevinpowell6434
    @kevinpowell6434 Před 6 měsíci +6

    We got rid of our Highlander for our Crown. Reason #1, doesn't look like everything else!

  • @matw1x
    @matw1x Před 8 měsíci +13

    You know how some people look 'meh' online, but in person, they look surprisingly way better? Same situation for Crown. Looks pretty mediocre online, but in person, that 50K price tag all of a sudden makes a whole lotta sense.

    • @Connie-qn4oq
      @Connie-qn4oq Před 2 měsíci

      @matw1x I agree 100%. My husband showed me the Crown online last year and my response was “Ew. No.” Yesterday he pointed out (the Crown) on the road and I said “I really like that!”. We subsequently test drove and fell in love. We were actually in the market for another SUV, not a passenger vehicle or sedan.

  • @StinkyPuppy123
    @StinkyPuppy123 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I bought a Crown platinum and love it. I love how it sits higher, and it drives beautifully and is so fun to drive. I like the room inside and how fast it accelerates. The seats are super comfortable, and I get so many compliments on it. My last 2 previous cars were Camrys.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 Před 14 dny

      The Crown is not a fancy Camry... It is a fancy Prius.
      The Camry has always been this car that is just the exact middle of the road. Middle Power, middle steering, middle everything.
      The Prius has always gotten attention (often for the worse) and is off of the middle. The Crown is the same way. It is different but netural. It is like a well refined Camry but has benefits of Lexus and benefits of something like a Prius.
      I prefer the look of the Crown Hybrid Sedan but that would not sell well in America (and really it should just be sold as the new es300h) so they brought the raised sedan and now the wagon (marketed as an SUV so people will buy it).
      I think the interior could have a few more materials and features for the price (at least the limited trim).
      When you look at something like a 2016 Buick LaCrosse Premium 2 you are getting a true luxury vehicle. We own a 2016 Leather 4d LaCrosse and drove the Limited and a looking to upgrade. Its price seems high for what you get.
      The Buick Premium 2 had: that the limited Crown does not...
      HUD (Color)
      4 way lumbar
      rear sunshade
      12 speaker Bose (may be better than the 11 speaker JBL)
      304 HP (Trade off for MPG- 22)
      Amazing Ambient Lighting
      Built in Nav (now very outdated)
      curve assist headlights (Crown only adapts vertically)
      Better overall lighting (center console light etc.)
      Household outlet (WHY doesn't the Crown have it... It is a hybrid?)
      4 way headrest. 10 way power seats (with the 4 way lumbar in addition)
      And MUCH MORE
      This is why the Crown needs to be its own brand in America- so we can get the features without them having to step up to a Lexus. We are talking about an eight year old BUICK (Not Cadillac) that has better features than a similarly priced flagship sedan.
      That Buick in that trim was about 39,000 and considering a Limited starts at 47,000 (2025) and goes up to 51,000 with the advanced tech package I think it should be better.
      We bought our LaCrosse 4d Leather for about 35,000. That is about 45,000 adjusted for inflation. Aside from the infotainment screen the cars are not really that different. The Buick has hood struts and an auto-lift tailgate that the Crown should defitenly have!
      -Just looked up what that $39,000 LaCrosse would be in todays money. It would be about $51,000. Sure- you don't get auto park but you get all the stuff I mentioned above that the Crown should have considering it is 8 years down the road. With the advanced Tech Package you might be getting 21's but the Buick had 20's and on 245 width tires. The Crown is stuck with 235.
      I Love the Crown for the range (600 miles) and overall MPG fun of driving it but that of-course is traded for the sound of the CVT and other hybrid things. In addition to that, you get to deal with some of Toyota's annoyances like crazy beeping and other features that are not fun to deal with.
      I Love the Crown so very much but I think it can be better for the position in the lineup and price it has. Even the 22 Avalon had a power tilt/teloscope wheel, dynamic turn signals, and other things.
      I guess it just sucks when you feel like upgrading but unless you spend a crazy amount of money you don't actually upgrade.
      Edit- Sorry for ranting to you.

    • @StinkyPuppy123
      @StinkyPuppy123 Před 13 dny

      I've recently seen 4 in my area. I can tell you I always get asked what car it is and they respond what a beautiful car!! I love mine. I ordered it in red and picked it up last August. My job location changed and I am driving further and it is so comfortable. Thanks Toyota!!

  • @ladislaualbert2807
    @ladislaualbert2807 Před 8 měsíci +16

    I am likely in the minority- but I really like the look of this car - especially in the two tone. Great review guys! The Giulia is definitely better looking and driving, but a Toyota/Lexus driver will actually want their car to work consistently 😂

    • @BlackGold3000
      @BlackGold3000 Před 7 měsíci +4

      The car is good looking.. dont listen to these old heads

    • @Ebailey813
      @Ebailey813 Před 5 měsíci

      I agree. I love the look and style. I’d buy the LTD trim for the gas mileage and some of the higher features.

    • @Steelerfancal
      @Steelerfancal Před 3 měsíci +2

      I completely agree. This car in person is amazing. We drove a camry then the crown back to back. No comparison! The crown blew away my expectations! Love the ride height. Love the MPG with AWD!

  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think I just had an epiphany: You guys are the Frasier and Niles Crane of car reviewers 🤯

  • @Tully3674
    @Tully3674 Před 8 měsíci +16

    I drove the Platinum Crown for 4 days (310 miles). Really great car. Looks like a crossover but drove like a Lexus sedan on lifts. Car will not fail as equipped (and its fast). If it fails, it will fail like most sedans as the market remains SUV-centric. People will except less luxury appointments to stay within budget for an SUV. Nissan Maxima was a great car (minus the CVT). It failed because sedans have fallen out of favor. Toyota is trying something new w/ the Crown (and the future Crown crossover that looks like a Genesis GV70). Let's see how it goes.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      Considering the Platinum Crown is 70k including taxes and fees, it better be a really great car. It's way overpriced and it's smarter to buy a Lexus or Benz for that price.

    • @Tully3674
      @Tully3674 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@braetonwilson4296 Can't disagree. Put a Lexus badge on it (similar to doing the same on a Venza), get on a blindfold and it may be tough to say it is a Toyota. Even sitting in a top of the line (anything) Chevy and you might think it's a top of the line Buick. Main stream manufacturers once catering to blue collar folks have been stepping up their value.

  • @sage11x
    @sage11x Před 8 měsíci +15

    I’m eye balling this as an eventual replacement for my SHO. This is a close as anything has gotten o that car. A relatively tall, relatively luxurious, relatively speedy sedan.

    • @sage11x
      @sage11x Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yeah. They said mob car. That is EXACTLY what my Taurus SHO is.

  • @Capronice
    @Capronice Před 8 měsíci +5

    I love the ES 350. I have owned an Avalon since 2000. I don’t like SUVs . I love the Crowns looks. I don’t think it’s weird at all.

  • @WFO.
    @WFO. Před 8 měsíci +5

    Crown, reminds me of those air fresheners back in the late 80’s that were in everyone’s car. 👑

  • @seymorefact4333
    @seymorefact4333 Před 8 měsíci +9

    🇺🇸 the more I see the Crown... the more I like it. Waiting for the Crown SPORT! That will be a WINNER for sure.

  • @khaliahall7072
    @khaliahall7072 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I went to the dealership and test drove one of these. My bf hated it when i was showing him reviews and photos on line. He saw it in person and drove, now he loves it and it considering trading in his nissan. I am definitely getting one. In person, this Crown is so beautiful, comfortable, fast and perfect height. I just wish it had a digital rearview mirror. But other than that, no complaints.

    • @Connie-qn4oq
      @Connie-qn4oq Před 2 měsíci

      Same. Online photos didn’t do it justice. Saw it in person and after driving it knew it was “the one”. We were in the market for another SUV, not a passenger/sedan type vehicle.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 Před 14 dny

      You don't really need the digital mirror unless you are often going to have people in the middle rear seat. Unlike an SUV where to get that claimed space (20 Cubic Feet Plus) that often means you are stacking items way past the window towards the roof- this blocks out vision out of the rear. It is at that point that the rear view mirrior becomes helpful. I don't think it does much in a sedan unless you have a person in that middle seat.

  • @DavidJones-du4us
    @DavidJones-du4us Před 7 měsíci +2

    I like it and I’m buying one. Don’t like SUV’s. Not everyone wants a sports car either.

  • @YesCivic-R
    @YesCivic-R Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's a practical solution, hybird, reliable, refresh, seat higher than sedan, comfortable overall. Great new proposition !

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr Před 7 měsíci +2

    I'd love to have one of these)

  • @30dgal
    @30dgal Před 8 měsíci +4

    It's raised. The camry isn't, perfect for people who want easy ingress and egress without the stupid suv

  • @erictate5985
    @erictate5985 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Not everyone wants an suv. 😢The crown sedan is a great choice 😂

  • @OrdinaryG33K-SF
    @OrdinaryG33K-SF Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think it's beautiful.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci +2

      really? the belt line is so high, the windows are so small. Makes it look ugly and fat.Way too overpriced too, it will cost 70k including taxes and fees. For that price, I'd rather buy a Lexus or Benz.

    • @OrdinaryG33K-SF
      @OrdinaryG33K-SF Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@braetonwilson4296 Yeah, I like it. Looks sleek & sexy to me. I'm not the target audience for it, as I couldn't spend that kind of money on ANY car, but I like it OBJECTIVELY. If I somehow came into one, I wouldn't be disappointed at all.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I suggest you go see your eye doctor 👨‍⚕️

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      paulm LOL

  • @bho6486
    @bho6486 Před 8 měsíci +12

    The Avalon was a great car but you just sat way too low to the ground for the intended audience. This is exactly the vehicle I think a lot of people would like. It's like Subaru taking the Impreza and lifting it up and making a Crosstrek.

  • @cyberotter06
    @cyberotter06 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Lifted Up Sedan (LUS) is the future of Sedans.

  • @pan4632
    @pan4632 Před 8 měsíci +6

    focus group failure is spot on. that being said, i don't think it's that bad

  • @vantran-ev8nd
    @vantran-ev8nd Před 25 dny

    The best Crown review ever. Love to hear all the different in term of taste and views of the car. I want this car for the weirdness, and for being like nothing on the road. I'd go for the Platinum.

  • @HalcyonX13
    @HalcyonX13 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think Toyota knows what they’re doing … it’s really targeting younger audiences . I’m 25 and I’m thinking about trading in my 14 Cadillac CTS for this crown … a lot of it is the style and the fact it’s an awd hybrid .

  • @veganapple
    @veganapple Před 6 měsíci +2

    I test drive Toyota crown it’s absolutely beautiful car. No one bad word you can say about it. And with high mpg is amazing. Inside is so beautiful and car looks from outside amazing. It’s my dream car

  • @user-gh5ss9bh1z
    @user-gh5ss9bh1z Před 2 měsíci +1

    Got the platinum magnetic gray can’t complain got it brand new for 39k no mark up it’s super fun 2.4l turbo love the engine it replaces the Nissan Sentra sr turbo and I have way more reliability behind Toyota no issues must have car 😏

    • @Connie-qn4oq
      @Connie-qn4oq Před 2 měsíci +1

      Great price!! We’re negotiating tomorrow for this exact vehicle (platinum magnetic gray)

  • @Sanpedranoazul
    @Sanpedranoazul Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'd love to have one of these, it's a unique car to drive 😍😍

  • @blueshark3098
    @blueshark3098 Před 8 měsíci +3

    "It's that thing with wheels!" "SedanUV!" Man, you guys are on fire! Dying here. And thank you both for not doing the mealy-mouthed, namby-pamby, "But NO-ONE is buying sedans anymore" schtick. Genesis G70 and 6MT Accord Sport (2013) owner here. Personally, I find this Crown thing kind of intriguing. As long as it's a great cruiser and has a nice ride, has lots of giddy-up, who cares?? I wish Toyota well on this thing. But I'd still rather buy an Integra Type S or CLA 45 for my third car, not this.

  • @larrypjonesjr2224
    @larrypjonesjr2224 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You guys for an excellent job on reviews. I think this vehicle is in a niche. The people who buy it, will probably love it… but at this price point… it won’t be s huge hit. I like it… stepping out from the norm, with innovation & flay; but i also realize not everyone thinks that way. Great review

  • @fikes73
    @fikes73 Před 8 měsíci +6

    We need the sport version they are selling in Japan. WAGON

    • @theCycleReport
      @theCycleReport Před 8 měsíci +2

      I want one badly. Fixes 90% of the awkward styling of the sedan.

    • @fikes73
      @fikes73 Před 8 měsíci

      @@twinturboray the problem of wanting the wagon?

  • @prideparking3241
    @prideparking3241 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Its the only non suv, awd hybrid with great gas mileage, and large sedan like

    • @TestDriveVideos
      @TestDriveVideos  Před 4 měsíci

      We recommend looking at Volvos line up as well. Plus the new Camry (this year) will be both hybrid and AWD. Thanks for watching!

  • @oliviaabaldwin878
    @oliviaabaldwin878 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I want one sooooo bad

  • @hunter235100
    @hunter235100 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've had my crown for about 50 days now. Got into a deer accident 15 days in and haven't driven it since... I just want my car back. Sadness aside, I remember liking the height a good amount. Yea i know its not something specific, but why does it have to be? Just an interesting hybrid with good creature comforts, awd, and great millage. The specs on paper are amazing past the body.

  • @TomYT67
    @TomYT67 Před 8 měsíci +1

    "Sedan-UV" Thank you. 😂

  • @ryanm5626
    @ryanm5626 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think the crown makes sense. Gets good gas mileage and sits high enough that it won't bottom out on steep inclines into parking lots or poor roads. Seems like a more usable Avalon to me. Also, the Platinum makes the least sense to me. I would take better gas mileage over more power.

  • @leo5086
    @leo5086 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Paul! Toyota took your Mach E fix and made the crown…

  • @thepiratepenguin_
    @thepiratepenguin_ Před 8 měsíci +5

    It's not for me, but can see older people loving the idea of a lifted sedan.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I can see older people in an SUV before this really. God I hate SUV's.

    • @journeyman291
      @journeyman291 Před 6 měsíci +2

      For us older folks, we have already owned dozens of different types of cars and trucks over the decades. Some were a blast, (Mach 1 , Pontiac GTO, Sunbeam Tiger,) utilitarian, family oriented, pos, newest fad or what ever we could afford. Been there, done that mentality. So yes, now I want a vehicle that is a reward to own and drive, not something that's forced

  • @DrEarbuds
    @DrEarbuds Před 8 měsíci +3

    The Toyota Cressida was great during it's time .

  • @Wayne_de
    @Wayne_de Před 8 měsíci +5

    It is Lexus ES300H Ultra Luxury money at $55k. You get a better vehicle and dealership experience with a Lexus.

  • @cochisenahuh7939
    @cochisenahuh7939 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I like it

  • @Tosabang
    @Tosabang Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have bored to see same type cars. I had test crown and es300h same day crown looks better and different than others. Just lexus ride was better because of 18" tires crown had 21". I have driving 2023 model d class suv but boring nothing special they are everywhere. My opinion these days all cars more better than average so which is different which is makes u feel better and special just get it.

  • @Mark-de4hj
    @Mark-de4hj Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great review as usual guys. I like your opposing viewpoints as well.
    Personally, I drive an SUV and I choose it for the convenience; being able to haul oversized stuff etc., but I love cars. There is a sleekness and maneuverability that you get in a car that is lacking in most SUVs. I find this Crown interesting because it's different and slots between car/SUV. I would prefer that the trunk had a hatch and for me, a more conservative one tone color, but love the performance figures and capability. There aren't much out there in this size category that is getting 30mpgs and the Toyota predictably reliability would make this a great choice.

    • @djplonghead5403
      @djplonghead5403 Před 14 dny

      The dual tone color is an option. This has a hybrid and a turbo which makes working on it worse (when it needs it). Also, this sedan has less cargo space than something like a chevy Trax which has a much smaller turning circle and is more maneuverability.

  • @journeyman291
    @journeyman291 Před 6 měsíci

    Test drove a base model, its all dealer had. Very nice. Love the look. For the money it should have an adaptable suspension system. Had a 1997 Lincoln Mark V111 LSC years ago. It had a airbag suspension system that was awesome. At 50mph the car would lower 1" and it would sense the distributed weight to level car plus it would stiffen the suspension in the mountain curves or soften the ride on the long freeways. I could take 30mph curves @ 55mph with no body roll! Loved when you opened the door the steering wheel retracted, lifted up, seat slid back, then when you closed the door it returned to the drivers set positions. It had a 2 person memory. When you put it in reverse the door mirrors would automatically lower so you could see your rear tires. Great feature when parallel parking. It hada 4.6 v8, 290 hp, 2K towing capacity and got 26mpg highway! But alas, i gotta say at 120k the airbag went bad, 5k repair (didnt do that) and around 150k little things started going south, so sold it @ 180k but the engine and 4 speed tranny still worked great. Used about a 1/2 qt of oil between 3k mile changes. But it was $40k new, which is $76k in todays money.

  • @kurtr1870
    @kurtr1870 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Waiting for the Crown Sport which will have a hatch back like an SUV.

  • @hobojon44
    @hobojon44 Před měsícem

    try crown sport if it gets here

  • @rdiamond655
    @rdiamond655 Před 8 měsíci +4

    What if the Crown is the fourth turning of cars and represents the near death of the SUV? Will we look back ten years from now and praise the Crown as the harbinger of better times?

  • @Javonn143_
    @Javonn143_ Před 8 měsíci +2

    This reminds me when Volvo had the S60 Cross Country. I don’t think they’ll sell many of these especially at the price they’re charging for them.

  • @justinschultz4325
    @justinschultz4325 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm so torn on this. I like the idea of hybrid calibrated for power, but I'm not a fan of a jacked up sedan. It is interesting though.

  • @RockstarBruski
    @RockstarBruski Před 7 měsíci

    It's an MUV "Medium Utility Vehicle" it Reminds me of the infiniti x45 i drove with an 8 cylinder. Great power, good room but sporty and not too low or too high. I think there's a market for this medium height vehicle with decent power and handling while getting good mpg. Im not too keen on the front and rear facial but then again I drive a 95 Porsche 993 so I want everything to have perfect curves without any sharp angles. 😅

  • @mkei8973
    @mkei8973 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Hi, from Japan!! Oh, Toyota badges are put on the car instead of Crown badges. I wanna know why. Buying Crown was the one of goal for fathers in Japan in old days. Now, they shift their thinking to Lexus.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      hada kano onna! konichiwa! Toyota is well known in USA but no one knows what Crown is which is why Toyota badge is used, shinigami

    • @mkei8973
      @mkei8973 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@braetonwilson4296 I don’t know why you are saying a naked woman and the grim of reaper in Japanese. LOL. But thank you for your message!!

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      I know Shinigami from watching Bleach and I learned how to say naked woman from a japanese foreign exchange student at university lol

    • @mkei8973
      @mkei8973 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@braetonwilson4296 Oh, from Japanese anime Bleach!! Thank you for being interested in Japanese culture.

  • @GXKid06
    @GXKid06 Před 8 měsíci +1

    yeah i just did a 500 mile road trip in my dads 2017 accord hybrid touring and it got 45 mpg on kinda knoby not eco tires. so this new hybrid getting 30 or less is really bad.

    • @windexfighter77
      @windexfighter77 Před měsícem

      That vehicle does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. This does it in 5.7, they're intended to be completely different beasts. Compare the Touring to the Crown in Limited trim and the Crown is listed at 41 mpg, but almost everyone driving one gets well above that, myself included. I've been getting 46.9 in the city.

  • @CMCNestT
    @CMCNestT Před 8 měsíci +3

    Alfa Romeo vs Toyota? RELIABILITY. The main reason you would not simply buy a Lexus IS is because it is a lot more cramped. It is a compact sedan.

  • @joelcleare
    @joelcleare Před 8 měsíci

    I agree with the focus group theory.

  • @francisgallozzi2595
    @francisgallozzi2595 Před 8 měsíci

    The rear end is reminiscent of Lucid Air. Trunk design is also similar between the two. Both should have been fastbacks.

  • @jonnydingleburg
    @jonnydingleburg Před 6 měsíci +1

    Lost me when long haired guy started talking about an Alfa. Come on man, people who are interested in Toyotas don't want something that isn't going to last 100k miles. Better all AROUND? Clown TAKE.

  • @ogulcansahin1509
    @ogulcansahin1509 Před 8 měsíci

    Lovely episode. This car reminds me of BMW 3 or 5 series GT not a sedan but not an SUV also. We know what happened to those.

  • @BitterCarGuy
    @BitterCarGuy Před 8 měsíci

    Swiss Army knife - i'm sure they'll make an offroad version of this with some more body cladding.

  • @spaceoner1
    @spaceoner1 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If I had one I'd drop it at least 1" on coilovers

  • @T0PzKiNG
    @T0PzKiNG Před 8 měsíci +1

    It looks nice and stand out everywhere it goes. I can’t wait for its SUV ferrari.

  • @Closertotruth2
    @Closertotruth2 Před 8 měsíci

    Does anyone think a vehicle with this type of power train will last as long as the power train they used to put in something like the old GX 470?

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Prius has been around and it’s powertrain is bullet proof.

    • @Closertotruth2
      @Closertotruth2 Před 8 měsíci

      @@paulm6481 True about the Prius. But I’m not sure you can extrapolate that reliability to other vehicles that are much larger, heavier, and may be designed to haul more stuff, people, or even tow. You certainly could be right though.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Closertotruth2 this same powertrain is already proven in many other Toy's, the e-cvt is almost bullet proof...much different than your standard CVT and more reliable.

  • @MLHunt
    @MLHunt Před 8 měsíci +1

    I am not a Toyota/Lexus buyer. I look at this thing and don't understand its appeal. But Toyota sells more cars than anyone; obviously they have a good read on the market. So I wouldn't bet against it being successful. It'll be interesting to see how it does.
    Then again, the execrable bz4x shows that Toyota can occasionally swing and miss. But given how clear it is that they rushed that half-baked design to market because they felt they had to I'm not sure it counts for much.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Před 8 měsíci

      BZ4 is a first gen product.

    • @TheEquationSlayer
      @TheEquationSlayer Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think the BZ4X is an intentionally low-volume EV. They didn’t want to risk a big costly mistake, such as VW having to idle ID4 plants due to poor sales, or GM suffering with the Bolt fires/Ultium production troubles. The BZ4X will sell just enough to test production strategies and get dealership sales/service familiar with EVs.

    • @MLHunt
      @MLHunt Před 8 měsíci

      @@TheEquationSlayer I don't disagree. And it makes sense for a company to take a 'piloting' sort of approach to introducing a new product based on technologies that it isn't familiar with. Still, it's SUCH a bad design, clearly at least 3-5 years behind the industry, that I can't help but think they panicked and rushed it out. You can't make me believe a company with Toyota's prodigious r&d, engineering, and manufacturing chops would market such an inferior product unless it felt it just didn't have time to improve it and had to get something in the market post haste.
      I think this the most likely explanation for the bz4x especially given how Toyota has pretty much done a fast 180 on its announced EV plans since they shipped it, with lots of publicity about how class-leading its next-gen platform will be when it's ready in the latter half of the decade, after years of rather loudly downplaying the need for the industry to move rapidly in this direction.

    • @TheEquationSlayer
      @TheEquationSlayer Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@MLHunt I haven’t driven one, but most reviews seem to state it’s similar to the ID4/MachE/Ioniq5, just slightly worse range/charging speed. It’s got more ground clearance than its competitors too.

  • @johnnyr25
    @johnnyr25 Před 8 měsíci +3

    How do you say "The Homer" in Japanese? Smh.
    Like the Buick Regal TourX, Ford TaurusX, or Honda CrossTour before it I'll give it 3-5 years before Toyota pulls the plug.

  • @reidladew6441
    @reidladew6441 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If it would have had a liftback, I’d be considering it. Come on Toyota! A #missedopportunity to go with your #hiddencompartment and your #wirelesscharger

  • @Ebailey813
    @Ebailey813 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why won’t anyone review the audio system? I’ve looked at 20+ Crown videos and only one referenced the music system. JBL is not known as a top quality audio system. What does it sound like to you!

  • @CarsofMetal77
    @CarsofMetal77 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I miss square cars.

  • @paulstein9258
    @paulstein9258 Před 8 měsíci +1

    A miss. We are seniors. We are probably the target audience. No more trunks. Hatchbacks are much more user friendly. With a hatchback this would be my next car.

  • @jhobaugh45
    @jhobaugh45 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Toyota making a hybrid "lukewarm" Subaru Legacy...and creating a new niche...I propose sedUV (seh-doov).
    Also, Paul's CEO/Marketing Director/whatever explanation just seems to be how companies make things where people just go "what were they thinking"... I don't think people will buy lots of these...I'm with Todd here

  • @EMc71
    @EMc71 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Todd, it looks like you weren’t buying what Paul was selling.

  • @hangpilot1200
    @hangpilot1200 Před 8 měsíci

    This thing really needs a wagon rear-end... a la ... oops, just saw they're already doing it in Japan! 🤣

  • @Staticclism
    @Staticclism Před 8 měsíci +3

    Couldn't disagree with Todd more. It's got old school Eagle sedan vibes & makes it kind of cool. "Lifted sedans" are rad.

    • @commbubba1990
      @commbubba1990 Před 8 měsíci +3

      This is dumb. Sedans should be low and sleek. You want lift, get an SUV. why does everything have to be some Frankenstein amalgamation?

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      Crown window belt line is too high and windows are too small. Looks ugly. It will cost 70k including taxes and fees, way too overpriced. Sedans should be low and sleek.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci

      @@braetonwilson4296 how the fck does one pay 15k in taxes and fees? You mean interest? You have to pay interest on anything no matter the MSRP. You probably paid 200k for your 50k house.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 Před 8 měsíci

      richard, just the sales tax on a 56k car can be 5k, so that brings total to 61. Another 3k for doc fee, registration, and titling. So now total is 64k. Now add in pre-installed accessories like paint protection, nitrogen tires, mug guards, floor mats etc. and you have 70k.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci

      @@braetonwilson4296 It still doesn't add up to 70k. You have to tell them you don't want the additional BS. It's not any different than buying a 55k Buick made by spoiled fat UAW workers that make lower quality vehicles in Lansing MI. My friend from work bought a new RAV 4 yest. and paid sticker plus tax, nothing more. FYI you have to pay tax on any kind of vehicle.

  • @francisgallozzi2595
    @francisgallozzi2595 Před 8 měsíci

    Even at that price point, still it's equipped with hood prop.

    • @Billybobthor
      @Billybobthor Před 8 měsíci +3

      I think for reliability. I get a new car ever 2-4 years. I haven’t opened a hood in over a decade. The only person that opens my hoods are mechanics. And I’m sure mechanics like a traditional prop that works every time.

    • @richardbaumgart2454
      @richardbaumgart2454 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Prop rods are lighter and 100% more reliable, they never have to be replaced unlike gas struts.

  • @MonoSQ
    @MonoSQ Před 8 měsíci

    Toyota should bring the Crown Sport (which looks like the Ferrari Purosangue) instead of this.

  • @mattho6015
    @mattho6015 Před 4 měsíci

    What’s the sales numbers on these. I see none on the road.

  • @nah3193
    @nah3193 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I don't get it I feel like they just made Avalon worse. Avalons are sweet as hell they just don't have a great reputation for some reason.

    • @TheEquationSlayer
      @TheEquationSlayer Před 8 měsíci

      They sold only 28k Avalons in 2019, down from 95k in 2005. More and more customers were leaving for an SUV/crossover, so Toyota had to do something.

  • @Exploring-The-Way
    @Exploring-The-Way Před 8 měsíci +1

    After 150 years of cars we're all going back to driving the equivalent of covered wagons 😅

  • @kevinjohnson386
    @kevinjohnson386 Před 6 měsíci

    Toyota is smart. Being totally electric is stupid. You gotta tell me out in the middle of Nevada or Utah. I'm gonna find a charging station every 300 miles. I know a section of road in California. You can go a 125 miles. And that's between gas stations, we're simply not. Ready for the hybrid? Excuse me for the fully electrical vehicle. If anything electric is the wrong choice, we need to go hydrogen vehicle if they're trying to clean up the atmosphere.
    Toyota is Toyota is smart. The rest of the companies haven't figured it out yet. But Toyota has. And I've never owned a Toyota in my entire life. But if I was going to buy one, it would be a hybrid from Toyota. I've already made up my mind. That will be the owned everything that the 3 major companies in the United States plus foreign countries. Nissan and Korean countries as well in my life, 61 year lifetime. Never bought anything from toyor no, that will be my next vehicle. If I buy when i'm ready to buy

  • @singular9
    @singular9 Před 8 měsíci

    Wrong, the alpha does not get 30 MPG. It gets 33 highway, but the combined rating is well bellow 30. more like 27.

  • @kingjaf
    @kingjaf Před 8 měsíci +1

    The high-riding sedan body reminds me of the also awkward BMW 3 and 5 series GT cars. Also focused grouped, also a market fail overall.

  • @markcoopers1930
    @markcoopers1930 Před 8 měsíci

    The Avalon wasn't exactly a sports car to begin with, and the core demographic wasn't trying to make it one. This didn't need to be a sports car to replace it. The Camry TRD V6 or the IS is still around for that. Eventually the proper sedan version of the crown will replace one of those. But just acknowledging the existence of the X6 and the GLE coupe monstrosities ruined my day.
    But that trunk "cutout" is so strange. It changes for no reason, and its hard to tell of it's black paint or glossy black plastic that will be swirled and scratched immediately. Just keep it uniform.

  • @tomc8854
    @tomc8854 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Looks like an electric shaver with wheels!

  • @mattdirks7896
    @mattdirks7896 Před 8 měsíci +1

    this was hilarious to watch.

  • @niuhuskieguy
    @niuhuskieguy Před 8 měsíci

    Subaru Legacy SUS...it was either ahead of its time or proof the raised sedan just isn't what people are looking for.

  • @R1val909
    @R1val909 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Needs to just be a damn wagon. People have no damn taste

  • @stevemartegani
    @stevemartegani Před 8 měsíci +1

    Sport Utilty Sedan. Subaru and Eagle did it first.

  • @leveraged6694
    @leveraged6694 Před 8 měsíci

    Would make more practical sense if it were a liftback.

  • @billtaylor8655
    @billtaylor8655 Před 8 měsíci

    Nobody is doing blacked out front fascia? How about BMW?!?

  • @brianbanks3044
    @brianbanks3044 Před 6 měsíci

    hybrid, AWD, not an SUV.....check, check and check...the guy is the red shirt sounds like the kid in debate class and is given the side of why the car is bad......he has his arguments down pat but try fixing an Alfa Romeo that he likes as easily as a Toyota

  • @justaguy6862
    @justaguy6862 Před 8 měsíci

    This thing needs a hatch style lift. Not a trunk

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's exactly like the old Venza, but that name is now being used by the Lexus wannabe.

  • @drivingpsyche
    @drivingpsyche Před 8 měsíci

    Guess Toyota didn't learn from Honda lesson - Accord Crosstour anyone?

  • @mcarlkv53
    @mcarlkv53 Před 8 měsíci

    I don’t understand… is this car naturally aspirated or electric?….

  • @michaels3003
    @michaels3003 Před 8 měsíci

    Wow. This was really annoying. You should rename your channel to Mind Readers (you insinuated you know exactly what the Toyota managers tried to do). And who told you that hybrid powertrains must be low performance? Is this a federal law?

  • @therodfather916
    @therodfather916 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh mmm Gee, you tried us! That was some filibuster! I love you , but I would have pushed you out of the car at speeds above 27 miles an hour. I would feel bad three days later. I remember the Toyota Crown, big upright and stately. This creation was designed by someone who ( on mushrooms) really liked the Corolla and the Camry and ooo wow said let's add a glass roof, someone else said " can I have a sip" and screamed we'll sell it at 56k and the non existent crowd went wild yes we got to have it. I liked hybrid Avalon except it made this old man feel like he was buying a Toyota LeSabre. I honestly don't know what the Crown is? It's not ugly until we learn the price 56k ( where is the air sickness bag) you could buy an Audi for that and it's interior wouldn't be similar to a Camry. If you must review the kar again then review it along side a refreshed Pontiac Aztek. I've got to take my medicine and lay down now.

  • @petermacdonald6332
    @petermacdonald6332 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m thinking you did some lazy reporting. There is a sedan, and two other Crown cars. The point is it’s a raised sedan that’s easy to get into and out of. C’mon do better!

  • @alanbuck9237
    @alanbuck9237 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The big fail on this is it should’ve been a hatchback to make it more useful.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Před 8 měsíci +1

      They tried that, it was named first gen Venza and we know how that ended up. 🤷‍♂️

  • @romanovmarkelyon1021
    @romanovmarkelyon1021 Před 8 měsíci

    I think this a good “on paper” car idea. In reality I think it’s gonna miss the mark and flop.

  • @singular9
    @singular9 Před 8 měsíci

    They could have just kept making the Avalon....
    Way too expensive, just buy an ES or NX

  • @kevinjohnson386
    @kevinjohnson386 Před 6 měsíci

    The long hair who says he doesn't want to drive this car this Toyota, he reminds me of my seventh eighth grade. Teacher named Mr. Kramer. He looks exactly like home.
    I'm i'm 61 years old now. We used to go over to Mr. Kramer's house because he was growing his own pot. At the time. And this is in Humboldt County in northern California. He drove AVW microbes that was his transportation. So I can see your counterpart driving a microbe bus. He would look exactly like Mr.Kramer did in his microbes. I don't know why you have a guy who is so seems to me. Watching this is my first video. Watching you guys so close Mand it Jesus Christ. He's long dead and buried by now. I'm 60 one, he be 80 and his 80s. Mid-eighties. And his alive he wouldn't know technology. His technology was a rub and 2 sticks together to make a fire. You mean anyway? This is the first video and probably the last video I'll watch For You guys. CZcams so graciously popped it up as something I might be interested in. They were wrong

    • @TestDriveVideos
      @TestDriveVideos  Před 6 měsíci

      Our guys have reviewed most every car on sale now. They’ve enjoyed plenty of Toyota hybrids but this one split them in opinion. We have two different guys to allow for different impressions and help
      Viewers figure out who they align with. We understand Todd might remind you of your old teacher, but based on your description they are probably quite different. Thanks for watching!