@nick m. No fuck that hormones should not be given to minors no exceptions. If you think otherwise question your brain functionality. The brain is only fully developed at around 25.
@nick m. hormones fuck'em up since they cannot get the bottom surgery since the bottom didn't develop properly it's the ironic aspect of the situation. You gotta go through the teen years if you want the proper bottom change.
If anything, I would say that refusing to listen to your doctor when it comes to the healthcare of your kid because you saw a podcast online about the condition which made you ideologically opposed to the treatments in question is what should be called child abuse.
They do exist as well, for example the only trans athlete to have ever competed on team USA in any sport ever was a trans guy. Also at least two trans guys have competed in D1 of NCAA whereas there has only ever been one trans girl who has competed in D1 of NCAA. You just don't tend to hear about them because trans guys being successful doesn't generate as many clicks as trans girls being successful.
@@El-marino-loko780 but there factually speaking are a bunch of FtM athletes as well, you can't just say "not really" to that fact. The only women's world record that any MtF athlete on HRT has ever broken was the very specific 35-39 seniors world record in cycling, so the comparison in terms of world records is at 1-0 right now and only if we count seniors world records. Also people tend to forget that there are about twice as many MtF people as there are FtM people, so even if things were equal (which they aren't) you would expect there to be about twice as many successful MtF athletes as FtM athletes. I'm not saying that it's not harder for FtM athletes, of course it is, everyone who has ever been to a gym knows that it's way harder and slower to gain a competitive advantage than it is to lose one.
@@Naskinlahtaaja your being a bit semantic. He didnt mention world records but your probably right on that number. (Altho tbf the whole trans ppl in sports hasnt really been a topic until very recently, who knows how many records trans woman can break if they are allowed and trained for it etc) But in terms of records and id say trans women are more dominant when they transition. New zealand weightlifter Laurel Hubbard won two gold medals at the pacific games, Cece Telfer became a div2 national champion in the 400 meter run. A trans woman also won a 200-meter dash at Connecticut's state open championship track meet. Also Zuby broke the british womens record for the deadlift by identifying as a woman while lifting Almost forgot but there is also that trans woman who was in the ufc and was fighting women and she was destroying every single fighter and then finally got beat by a competent/good fighter because of technique bcuz literally the trans woman was purely using the strength advantage she has from having been a man. I think she was like what not even ranked top 500 or something?
@@NaruBrilu why would vague "records" matter instead of world records? Couldn't you say that pretty much anyone winning anything is some sort of a "record"? Someone breaking some local record doesn't really matter IMO at all and trying to track vague "records" is impossible. We know that in terms of world records the score is 1-0. Laurel Hubbard is the most successful trans athlete on the planet, and she may become the first ever transgender Olympic athlete (her pb wouldn't have won her any medals in the 2016 Olympics though if I remember correctly). What people always forget about this however is that trans people have been allowed to compete in the past 8 Olympic Games already and trans people make up about 0.6% of the population (MtF are 0.9% of women, FtM are 0.3% of men), so we would expect there to be some trans athletes in the Olympics if HRT made things fair. Just to put it into perspective, there were about 5500 women's athletes in the 2016 Olympics alone, and 0.9% of 5500 is about 50, so when the day comes that someone like Laurel increases trans representation from 0% to 0.02% you can't really point to it as if it's an example of trans athletes being dominant. I'm glad that you mentioned that Telfer won in D2, people like to leave that bit out. As should be obvious, the time that she won the D2 competition with wouldn't have even qualified her for the D1 race. I already mentioned how there have been at least 2 FtM athletes who have competed in D1 whereas there has only ever been one MtF athlete who has competed in D1 (assuming that June Eastwood has already competed in D1). The Connecticut competition that you're referring to is an unregulated high school competition. Because it's unregulated, we can't know how long the trans girl who won there had been on HRT, if she had been on HRT at all yet. Zuby obviously wasn't on HRT when he pulled off that meme. Just to be clear, most sports organizations mirror the IOC rules for trans women which require them to have undergone HRT before they're allowed to compete. I'm saying that those hormonal requirements seem to have kept things fair so far. The MMA fighter who you're referring to (Fallon Fox) only ever competed in smaller and mostly regional competitions where she retired from with a 5-1 record and after never winning a single title or tournament, she never competed in the top tier of MMA competitions. Referring to her as a "dominant MMA fighter" would be comparable to calling some decently successful ECHL hockey player a "dominant hockey player". Also regarding this style of talking about the topic with a bunch of anecdotes, please try to keep in mind that trans people make up about 0.6% of the population. Even if things were fair after HRT, you would expect a trans woman to be successful every now and then, so being able to point to a trans woman winning something doesn't mean anything.
@@johngilliam6764 nah, I'm good with them being polite. As long as we are not being compelled to use people's pronouns or give up female-only spaces I'm fine with politeness.
I think the things she said we're much milder and more considered but she had always been very woke up to that point so I think some of her fans were more shocked. I'm sure she'll be fine.
They had one on Shark Tank years ago, and they ran into an issue when the Sharks realized that the company was owned by women and they boasted about being an all-female company, but all the movers were men.
Amen. The longer we lie to ourselves the longer young female athletes will suffer. Let just do one sports season for each sport co-Ed and watch the consequences.
@@anaconda2371 Heyy, I just saw your reply right now and I immediately went to read the article and also watched the video. I really did not saw anything oppressive or abusive in Jackie's case. Only the thing, the child did was, that the child changed her name, which she was not comfortable with, started to wear clothes in which she will not feel sad and repressed, and started to identify herself as a girl. All I saw in the article and video was that the child did her social transition, and not the surgical transition or the hormonal transition, which would be a very hazardous and inappropriate thing for a 3 years old child to go through and to again note that performing surgeries and hormonal treatment on 3 years old kid is an illegal thing to do in America.
@Aerenicos Coming back to what Andrew said that parents should be shot in the head when they transition their kids at the age of three. When the transition is surgical and hormonal on a 3 years old kid then I agree with him and you, that a parent must receive a strict punishment from the state. But when it comes to the case in the article, then I think that the parents are right. Parents like these allow their kids to express their gender identity, rather than making them feel ashamed about their true authentic feeling on their gender, by making them feel depressed or by causing severe harms to their self-esteem by constantly policing them.
But the issue which I have with him is that he gives a wrong and incorrect message to his audience. That how cisgender kids are abused by their parents for being who they are. But completely and intentionally ignores that, in reality, it is the transgender kid who faces problems for not expressing their true gender identity. And the real victims here are transgender kids who face the problem of their parents forcing them to not be their true selves. People like Andrew Shultz and Akaash Singh, who claim how the bodies of cisgender kids are being experimented on against their consent to fit the transgender narrative; this claim is so so stupid. Because if this is really taking place in this country, then we should assume that American society actually respects transgender people and view them as superior to cisgender people. But again this claim does not get reflected when we see so many high suicide rates, homelessness rates, unemployment rates, hate crimes, and legislative violence which the transgender community faces in modern-day America.
@@righteousmuckraker1485 Nope. The American board of internal medicine endocrinology states that they recommend to not start the transition until at least 16 years old but it still doesn't stop kids from transitioning earlier than that and it certainly doesn't stop doctors from supplying them with hormones to start their transition. You can find many articles or videos of kids starting their transition at a young age. Also there is literally nobody stopping a child from going to a clinic and picking up testosterone to start their process. So these "assholes" did exaggerate the truth but kids do and can transition at an early age and some parents help them through the process.
I know. Most Clips I agree with him like 20% and this clip I agreed with him on pretty much every single thing. I don't know who the knucklehead in the background was but he was arguing that kids should have sex changes and crap like that
@@tommyspillman2476 my knowledge is limited but most places i checked say that there are competitions for both genders and competitions for women only, but only rarely are there any only male competition.
The fucked up part is that people who are born intersex get “transitioned“ Involuntarily at birth by doctors when their babies and that standard practice
The entire things is just a huge lie. It has zero to do with what is best for people for a start, and all the terms and labels that are used are completely false. So it's a lot of really false people layering even more false over the top. I just avoid those people, nowt but trouble.
Honestly it's kind of awesome, there are a few trans women who speak against MTF people competing against women. It's refreshing to hear (as a woman) to be coming from an olympian. Anyone who is a serious athlete recognizes the sex differences that affect physical capabilities. I have literally nothing against trans people and want them to be happy but to deny the existence of an advantage from being born male is just so ignorant. Me (a woman who exercises and lifts and considers myself very strong for a woman): can't throw my dad over my shoulder and carry him off. Meanwhile, Dad: (hasn't lifted weights or done any dedicated exercise in years) can pick me up, throw me over his shoulder, and run up a sand dune (this happened a few years ago). I mean come on people are literally delusional. Do people really think that if you give Lebron James some hormones he's suddenly going to be athletically identical to the #1 WNBA athlete? LOL
I appreciate men who support women sports remaining for female athletes who were born female. Men are great allies and are heard more so I am glad these men with large platforms are standing up for us 👍
I mean sports would be a disaster. WNBA ladies would get dunked on left and right. USA Soccer already lost to a high school boys team. Ppl who aren’t taking any hormones at all are running against girls in high school track. The UFC fighter who didn’t tell their opponents they were born a man. I’m not saying there aren’t women who could win that fight, but they shouldn’t have to fight this fool. Make a trans league or play in the men’s league. And I know no ones gonna watch the trans league and it’s gonna fold so just have the NBA pay for the TNBA just like they do the WNBA, which loses $10 million every year. EQUALITY
I could name quite a few females with far larger platforms.. but yeah Everything doesn't really have to be men vs women.. we can be "allies" Kinda the way it should be actually.
Yea that's not going to be fair at all. I'm all for inclusion of everybody, but I think that's going too far. Especially for young girls. Could u imagine watchin your young daughter unfairly getting sh** on week after week at every sporting event? No matter how hard she trains or how much time she dedicates towards it..its sad to think about
EXACTLY!! My biggest issues with the “trans movement” is the forced inclusion of biological men into women’s sports and this abusive push to irreparably transition children. Smh...
But why has our society created a movement of people who are sterilizing themselves and demanding the right to sterilize children also? Is it because so many young folks no longer want to breed because there are just too many of us for the planet to support? Economically, most of the things we need to survive are already owned by the previous generation and there is nothing left for us.
My whole philosophy with transgender things is all after 18. Same age you can get a tattoo, vote, join the military, and make several other life altering decisions. It’s not that I don’t like transgender people it’s just that I know for a fact you have a way different way of thing when you’re 12 than when you’re 18. Thanks for the quick read.
People don't magically mature at 18. They don't magically make their own decisions without parental or external influence at 18. Brains keep keep developing until mid-twenties. Because puberty begins around 11-14, setting a barrier for hormone blockers with 18 equals higher suicide rate for trans people. There is no perfect system. It should be on an individual basis, with psychiatric evaluation, teacher interviews across the lifespan maybe too like with adhd (obviously there's no comparison). Gender is known to children as young as two. Gender identity forms extremely young by culture and society. Trust children who from age two, four, six and now are 14 to know that they do not identify with their birth sex.
@@eddiecano8488 you'll see trans suicides and lifelong depression in trans people stay the same or go up. Obviously, the key is to catch those who are simply non binary or confused before they make a life altering, body altering decision. The overwhelming majority of trans people know very young that their brain identifies as the opposite sex of that of their sex organs. There are two trans people in my family. Both didn't have the opportunity to transition until their early thirties. One married, had children and tore apart their family due to that decision and due to trying to live how society expected them to. If their hadn't been a stigma and if they'd had medical and family support growing up who knows what would have happened. I've taken psychology of gender and a sociology course on gender. I encourage everyone to if they have the opportunity. I went in with a very critical lens, which is why I say that there is no perfect system. I'd pick the system which has the biggest chance at minimizing suicides but that's just me.
Its not about entertainment value or how the trans athlete feels, its about fairness. Its unfair for men to compete with women. I have read a few stories that high school girls are losing scholarships because they can't compete with men. What if a man self identifies as a child ( they exist), should they be allowed to play in little league sports???
It's far from being only testosterone, it's about bone density, muscle fibers, reflexes and many other factors that, even if you start an insanely early transition, still remain. The difference is at the chromosome level and literally it means that it's at the level of each single cell in the body. You can’t cancel millions of years of evolution for a political agenda that popped out in the last 10 years.
Bigger lungs, different muscle structures (not all muscle fiber is the same), larger chests, longer limbs, more upper body strength... the list is long. A lot of those things do NOT change when you start blocking male hormones and supplementing female hormones. Your DNA is always the same- the hormones just change the expression of the DNA some.
The biggest thing is biological DNA. Even if you transition at no matter what age, your DNA WILL giving you an advantage, if you decide to compete. This is what people on that side of the fence don’t understand. Even in Chess, and other games that are considered non-athletic sports... there is still a physical side to those players. Like conditioning, rate of fatigue, muscle cramps, all that factors into board games and card games.
Testosterone literally changes the way ur hips move, the density and strength of bones, the amount of blood ur muscles get, even after estrogen, many of those things stay the same
Not just density, bone, ligament and muscle size and shape are all different. Female bodybuilders are on all the drugs and they can't compete with the men.
@@sora4440 technically that's said for ALL "mens" sports. Women's sports are actually more sexist because men can't compete in them. There have been cases of women playing in men's sports. I recall one or two cases in the NHL.
I think I actually figured this out...the people who are making this decision are people who have never cared about sports and potentially have disliked them. To them, what happens to sports is irrelevant and if it causes sports harm that is a really a good thing.
Finally someone understand this entire issue is sports fans vs non sports fans. Those who get it and understand the struggle of what these people put themselves through vs those who don't care.
@@llwc9435 Gender Studies and the Validation for Gender Studies. You can blame the current Democrqt party for this because Universities have become very left leaning.
@@llwc9435 feelings over facts... because facts are racist, homophobic, transphobic, mean... blah blah blah and other BS that these people brain fart out.
From the wikipedia page of John Money: During his professional life, Money was respected as an expert on sexual behavior, especially known for his views that gender was learned rather than innate. However, it was later revealed that his most famous case of David Reimer was fundamentally flawed.[21] In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest. At the age of 22 months, Reimer underwent an orchiectomy, in which his testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and his name changed from Bruce to Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment, to which the parents agreed. Money then recommended a surgical procedure to create an artificial vagina, which the parents refused. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful. During subsequent appointments with Reimer and Reimer's twin brother Brian, Money forced the two to rehearse sexual acts, with David playing the bottom role as his brother "[pressed] his crotch against" David's buttocks. Money also forced the two children to strip for "genital inspections", occasionally taking photos. Money justified these criminal acts by claiming that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".[4] For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases.
just do trans games and trans competition... make them compete against each other... there's so many now, I'm sure they can find enough do to a national soccer team only with trans
I’m libertarian n conservative but I wish we just smoke a j n just had as two different types of ppl all ppl could just vibe n get along n debate with love n respect ✊🏿
Woman can compete in the “men” league, they have the rating system, i think 2000 is enough to be WGM or something like that but its like 2400-2500 for men.
In my school ,state level or even district level chess players(Boys) could defeat girls who were national level chess players..There is little to no competition in women's chess.
@@williamalmendarez9157 When you say Indians have some of the same words as Arabic, can you clarify which of the 121 languages spoken in India you are referring to, or are you talking out of your ass?
0:46 Agreed; it's unfair, that's why there are men and women categories in sports in the first place. But i was wondering if that also applies to motor sports? Transgender Muay Thai fighter Somros Polcharoen "Nong Rose" kept competing against men because she/he wanted to still compete with the best and wanted to wait after the end of her sport career to completely transition; that's very honorable, in my opinion.
The World Chess Championship is open to both males and females. There is a women’s only league and due to the fact that women have never reached the final stage of the WCC..
The majority of "men's" league sports, are actually entirely open to women, just not the opposite, you don't see women in the NBA because they can't make the cut. Men aren't allowed to compete in women's leagues because they'd dominate.
Oooooft 👏👏 this. The asthma-prone failed drama students who never ran a race in their lives are the ones who are gunning the hardest for men and women competing against one another. Like 🤦♀️
Andrew is light years ahead in his arguments that his peers here. All l heard from the other guys is "eh it's no big deal, just inject that tst" like there are no ramifications or consequences on society.
There IS men’s chess and women’s chess. I think it comes down to the fact that men are more interested in things while women are more interested in people. Generally.
There is women's chess and open chess, where anyone, male or female, can compete. Open chess at the highest level is in effect men's chess the vast majority of the time.
It's weird af that no one ever questions hormone therapy. People that I've seen talk about it like it's a normal, everyday thing. But it's not natural *at all*. It's hormone manipulation and the science of that has not been studied or tested very well
It has been tested pretty well at this point though. People need hormones sometimes because they are deficient not only during gender transitioning, and roiders have existed for ever.
@@10parth10 but are there a bunch of longitudinal studies? Cuz that's the real shit. I wonder how it affects people from age 18-70 if they get started at ~18yrs old?
In hiding, because having common sense these days is (x)-phobic/hate speech and being funny is a slippery slope unless you’re an established comedian because someone can and will always take your words and meaning out of context and use it against you lol
Because conservatives(a good chunk of this channel's viewers are conservative) are polite in nature as compared to liberals who tend to be compassionate(towards minority groups) and therefore vengeful to those who disrespect/disagree with *insert your favourite oppressed minority*. So yeah,it's prolly the libs giving him(Caitlyn) the shits.
@@tuahahussain9176 100% this. If you "tow" their beliefs. Its "wow your brave" "courageous" but the moment you say something they dont agree with or a nuanced opinion (ie she's not saying that trans women are bad or should die or some bs or are second class citizens. Caitlyn is literally saying that hey they shouldnt be competing against biological women because it is unfair) then they attack you hard
Trying to gotcha, did not age well. Government does not and will not be involved. A libertarian can believe that the sports leagues/ organizations make the rules not government. Kinda like It is now silly! The Olympic committee just banned BLM at the next olympics, was that government making a rule? Thinks before you type.
@@clintonbuss2247 on the high school level, this is government involvement. State officials literally draft and sign these policies into law. On the Olympic level decision, it's not. Not a gotcha. Just facts.
@@Stephenwhite013 Being against men compiting in women's leagues is not anti trans. It's anti nonsence. I have nothing against trans people, wish em all the best, but don't want to see them using biological advantages against women in sports, simply because it's not fair. Libertarians support peoples freedom untill that freedom starts hurting others (like in this case).
Couldn’t agree more with Andrew!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I mean, how is this not common scientific sense? Feels like we’re all getting gaslighted by woke mainstream morons on the daily, I swear! Thanks for returning some of our sanity. 🇺🇸
gaslight is definitely the word for it. They’ll try their damnedest to make you seem crazy, stupid, hateful, etc., just for disagreeing on the topic of trans people in sports. It’s absurd
In Canada it's the opposite. If you don't transition your 3 year old, you're guilty of child abuse and the state takes your kid and puts them in a house that will transition them.
As a Canadian, I am horrified by this trend. They should not be able to destroy your fertility before you even grow into it. It seems like a pernicious form of Eugenics to me.
Nah, most people don't dive deep enough into these issues; it's all lazy surface level stuff. I'm damn near communist and find Andrew funny but like most comedians, on complex issues, they think their high social and emotional intelligence is a substitute for intellect. They end up being arrogant about their ignorance. Oftentimes, they miss the boat but because they actually try to think, I don't mind. I basically conclude, I see why HE would think that, which is fine.
Well think about it, if their 'deep feeling' of the opposite gender is their true self and not the body they are born into. Then if they got run over by a train or decapitated, their 'true gender' should be able to go on and survive
Bro they should have their own trans league. Like I thought about it the other day some little prodigy girl said “I want to be a girl in the nba one day....” she was like 8... I was like bro in America they have coed at the recreational level lmao they should have professional rec. that way all those girls can be a bit more satisfied man. So yea make a trans league for them. Done
Even if we did that there would still be controversy from them claiming they're still being excluded. They don't want their own sub category, they want to be IN the same existing ones, which we all know isn't fair.
Yeah because that’s going great for the women 😆 Let’s face it. They will never be satisfied because they are not men. They want to be us. It’s that simple. Give them their own leagues they will complain people don’t care about them as much as they do the men’s league. They won’t make as much money due to less interest and then they will blame the “patriarchy”. It never ends.
Dude is a mess stretching logic and irrational into the same meat bag. How can you be so on the money but completely not get the fallacy home boy is living? Makes my damn head hurt
@@TitaT yeah and Fox News loved to belittle trans people but the second someone trans with some fame decided to run as a Republican candidate they air an interview on Fox News lmaoooo
@@97NikeSb most conservatives don't even like Fox news. they just take advantage of the fact that CNN is phony. so they do the opposite of CNN, but the ultimate goal is to make money.
@@TitaT lmaooo that’s bullshit they bow down to people like tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. Don’t give me this bs that a news outlet that caters to their beliefs and idolizes Republicans isn’t beloved by conservatives. Also nobody brought up CNN whatsoever, Fox News was merely brought up because they gave Jenner an interview. But shows how much whenever someone calls out Fox News yall love to bring up CNN as if calling them out on their bs dilutes Fox news’ hot trash.
"Unless you get them on the one week where they are all synced up, then they are able to go super saiyan and eat chocolate..." That line had me wheezing!!
I subscribed to flagrant-2 for conversations like this this involves funniness it involve serious questions and involve serious answers and it also asked and answers the questions that most people refuse to ask and answer
What I love about Andrew is just because someone makes a claim or statement about someone else’s view or position, he doesn’t just immediately buy it, he will question and want to know more
the trans man in college track was something like 170th in the ncaa his freshmen year, something like 250th his sophomore year, then after transitioning to women's track she was the top female runner in the ncaa. dont quote me on the exact numbers but to put running into perspective, the world record mile by a woman is 4:12.33 by Sifan Hassan, there are about 200 high school men who have run a mile faster then 4:12.
I always find funny people like akaash who are "not sure" about giving sex changing hormones to kids,. Are you kidding me?? Thank you andrew for having the stones of saying what should be obvious to everyone else, thanks for being the sane one.
What about the women who have sacrificed their life to a particular sport waiting to achieve greatness at the olympics and stuff, and then comes a biological man and crashes their dream? This is most unfair to the women, we shouldn’t care as much for the “trans” person, but for the women athletes.
Transitioning should wait until 25, when your brain is fully developed. That is a massive decision, and you need to have forethought before making a decision like that.
Y’all should bring on a like minded female! Not enough of us women with “unpopular” views on topics such as these, are heard! Maybe your wives/girlfriends/sisters..would be so interesting!!! Love the show!
If my kids take 5 minute to decide between fruit snacks and teddy grahams for snack time, they dont get to decide what gender they are. Whatever is between their legs, that's your gender. They figure that out when they're 18 and out my house.
"Caitlyn Jenner is against same sex marriage because she's a traditional woman" is probably the funniest sentence to ever be spoken
Lol!
When I heard that and the flagrant cast didn't spend the next 5mins laughing, I thought I was hallucinating.
@@stayfrosty8470 yo thats exactly how I felt. I was like "so no one heard that banger"
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Bruce killed someone and got off the hook and I truly believe this is his payment for escaping punishment. May Buddha bless him. 😂
Thank you Andrew for saying parents who transition their kids should be imprisoned. That’s child abuse
@nick m. No fuck that hormones should not be given to minors no exceptions. If you think otherwise question your brain functionality. The brain is only fully developed at around 25.
D Wade .......🏃🏿♂️
@nick m. hormones fuck'em up since they cannot get the bottom surgery since the bottom didn't develop properly it's the ironic aspect of the situation. You gotta go through the teen years if you want the proper bottom change.
Listening to your doctor when it comes to making healthcare decisions for your child is not child abuse.
If anything, I would say that refusing to listen to your doctor when it comes to the healthcare of your kid because you saw a podcast online about the condition which made you ideologically opposed to the treatments in question is what should be called child abuse.
The fact that there are next to 0 women who transition to men trying to play men's sports, should tell u everything u need to know
They do exist as well, for example the only trans athlete to have ever competed on team USA in any sport ever was a trans guy. Also at least two trans guys have competed in D1 of NCAA whereas there has only ever been one trans girl who has competed in D1 of NCAA. You just don't tend to hear about them because trans guys being successful doesn't generate as many clicks as trans girls being successful.
@@Naskinlahtaaja not really compared to mtf theyre weak af i bet you cant see one ftm breaking biological male records in sports
@@El-marino-loko780 but there factually speaking are a bunch of FtM athletes as well, you can't just say "not really" to that fact. The only women's world record that any MtF athlete on HRT has ever broken was the very specific 35-39 seniors world record in cycling, so the comparison in terms of world records is at 1-0 right now and only if we count seniors world records. Also people tend to forget that there are about twice as many MtF people as there are FtM people, so even if things were equal (which they aren't) you would expect there to be about twice as many successful MtF athletes as FtM athletes. I'm not saying that it's not harder for FtM athletes, of course it is, everyone who has ever been to a gym knows that it's way harder and slower to gain a competitive advantage than it is to lose one.
@@Naskinlahtaaja your being a bit semantic. He didnt mention world records but your probably right on that number. (Altho tbf the whole trans ppl in sports hasnt really been a topic until very recently, who knows how many records trans woman can break if they are allowed and trained for it etc) But in terms of records and id say trans women are more dominant when they transition. New zealand weightlifter Laurel Hubbard won two gold medals at the pacific games, Cece Telfer became a div2 national champion in the 400 meter run. A trans woman also won a 200-meter dash at Connecticut's state open championship track meet. Also Zuby broke the british womens record for the deadlift by identifying as a woman while lifting
Almost forgot but there is also that trans woman who was in the ufc and was fighting women and she was destroying every single fighter and then finally got beat by a competent/good fighter because of technique bcuz literally the trans woman was purely using the strength advantage she has from having been a man. I think she was like what not even ranked top 500 or something?
@@NaruBrilu why would vague "records" matter instead of world records? Couldn't you say that pretty much anyone winning anything is some sort of a "record"? Someone breaking some local record doesn't really matter IMO at all and trying to track vague "records" is impossible. We know that in terms of world records the score is 1-0.
Laurel Hubbard is the most successful trans athlete on the planet, and she may become the first ever transgender Olympic athlete (her pb wouldn't have won her any medals in the 2016 Olympics though if I remember correctly). What people always forget about this however is that trans people have been allowed to compete in the past 8 Olympic Games already and trans people make up about 0.6% of the population (MtF are 0.9% of women, FtM are 0.3% of men), so we would expect there to be some trans athletes in the Olympics if HRT made things fair. Just to put it into perspective, there were about 5500 women's athletes in the 2016 Olympics alone, and 0.9% of 5500 is about 50, so when the day comes that someone like Laurel increases trans representation from 0% to 0.02% you can't really point to it as if it's an example of trans athletes being dominant.
I'm glad that you mentioned that Telfer won in D2, people like to leave that bit out. As should be obvious, the time that she won the D2 competition with wouldn't have even qualified her for the D1 race. I already mentioned how there have been at least 2 FtM athletes who have competed in D1 whereas there has only ever been one MtF athlete who has competed in D1 (assuming that June Eastwood has already competed in D1).
The Connecticut competition that you're referring to is an unregulated high school competition. Because it's unregulated, we can't know how long the trans girl who won there had been on HRT, if she had been on HRT at all yet.
Zuby obviously wasn't on HRT when he pulled off that meme. Just to be clear, most sports organizations mirror the IOC rules for trans women which require them to have undergone HRT before they're allowed to compete. I'm saying that those hormonal requirements seem to have kept things fair so far.
The MMA fighter who you're referring to (Fallon Fox) only ever competed in smaller and mostly regional competitions where she retired from with a 5-1 record and after never winning a single title or tournament, she never competed in the top tier of MMA competitions. Referring to her as a "dominant MMA fighter" would be comparable to calling some decently successful ECHL hockey player a "dominant hockey player".
Also regarding this style of talking about the topic with a bunch of anecdotes, please try to keep in mind that trans people make up about 0.6% of the population. Even if things were fair after HRT, you would expect a trans woman to be successful every now and then, so being able to point to a trans woman winning something doesn't mean anything.
God damn it is so refreshing just to hear someone unashamedly speak the common sense that most are thinking.
If they were speaking common sense they would be referring to catelyn jenner as him not her
@@johngilliam6764 nah, I'm good with them being polite. As long as we are not being compelled to use people's pronouns or give up female-only spaces I'm fine with politeness.
@@jomay78 fair enough
Right. Didn’t J.K. Rowling get hung out to dry for having the same opinion?
I think the things she said we're much milder and more considered but she had always been very woke up to that point so I think some of her fans were more shocked. I'm sure she'll be fine.
An all female moving company would be must see TV for me. Imagine the drama lol
They had one on Shark Tank years ago, and they ran into an issue when the Sharks realized that the company was owned by women and they boasted about being an all-female company, but all the movers were men.
“Imagine Drama" is my favorite Imagine Dragons reality show.
Nathan for you should do it.
@@MichaelDavis-bj2bs do you have a link or name of that company?
Well she is the woman of the year right
I like Akaash’s point on removing all gender barriers and letting everyone compete then they’ll see how ridiculous their point is on gender equality.
Amen. The longer we lie to ourselves the longer young female athletes will suffer. Let just do one sports season for each sport co-Ed and watch the consequences.
Men would never do that because they're afraid women would dominate
@@rezzbuilds8343 find the trans person
Here’s a great idea... why don’t trans make their own league
@@rezzbuilds8343 for sure, Rose Namajunas KO's Francis Ngannou in 1.
“If you transition your child at 3 yrs old, you should be shot in the head” Andrew speaking absolute truth out here
@@righteousmuckraker1485 there is literally and article from NPR dates in 2015 called “At age 3- transitioning from Jack to Jackie”
@@anaconda2371 Heyy, I just saw your reply right now and I immediately went to read the article and also watched the video.
I really did not saw anything oppressive or abusive in Jackie's case.
Only the thing, the child did was, that the child changed her name, which she was not comfortable with, started to wear clothes in which she will not feel sad and repressed, and started to identify herself as a girl.
All I saw in the article and video was that the child did her social transition, and not the surgical transition or the hormonal transition, which would be a very hazardous and inappropriate thing for a 3 years old child to go through and to again note that performing surgeries and hormonal treatment on 3 years old kid is an illegal thing to do in America.
@Aerenicos Coming back to what Andrew said that parents should be shot in the head when they transition their kids at the age of three. When the transition is surgical and hormonal on a 3 years old kid then I agree with him and you, that a parent must receive a strict punishment from the state.
But when it comes to the case in the article, then I think that the parents are right. Parents like these allow their kids to express their gender identity, rather than making them feel ashamed about their true authentic feeling on their gender, by making them feel depressed or by causing severe harms to their self-esteem by constantly policing them.
But the issue which I have with him is that he gives a wrong and incorrect message to his audience. That how cisgender kids are abused by their parents for being who they are.
But completely and intentionally ignores that, in reality, it is the transgender kid who faces problems for not expressing their true gender identity. And the real victims here are transgender kids who face the problem of their parents forcing them to not be their true selves.
People like Andrew Shultz and Akaash Singh, who claim how the bodies of cisgender kids are being experimented on against their consent to fit the transgender narrative; this claim is so so stupid.
Because if this is really taking place in this country, then we should assume that American society actually respects transgender people and view them as superior to cisgender people. But again this claim does not get reflected when we see so many high suicide rates, homelessness rates, unemployment rates, hate crimes, and legislative violence which the transgender community faces in modern-day America.
@@righteousmuckraker1485
Nope. The American board of internal medicine endocrinology states that they recommend to not start the transition until at least 16 years old but it still doesn't stop kids from transitioning earlier than that and it certainly doesn't stop doctors from supplying them with hormones to start their transition. You can find many articles or videos of kids starting their transition at a young age. Also there is literally nobody stopping a child from going to a clinic and picking up testosterone to start their process.
So these "assholes" did exaggerate the truth but kids do and can transition at an early age and some parents help them through the process.
Andrew speaking facts throughout this whole thing. I haven’t agreed with him so much on a segment ever
I know. Most Clips I agree with him like 20% and this clip I agreed with him on pretty much every single thing. I don't know who the knucklehead in the background was but he was arguing that kids should have sex changes and crap like that
@@SabPowers how
@@nikhilkrishna8882 professional chess is usually divided by gender
@@tommyspillman2476 my knowledge is limited but most places i checked say that there are competitions for both genders and competitions for women only, but only rarely are there any only male competition.
Andrew is right, transition your kid at Three years old your parents should be sent to prison.
Oh just give it some time... In Canada if your 15 you can go to a doctor and get hormones to transition without your parents permission...
@@a-t5380 I used to like Canada, I'd move now if I lived there. I think if a doctor cut my sons dick off I'd go cut the doctors dick off.
The fucked up part is that people who are born intersex get “transitioned“ Involuntarily at birth by doctors when their babies and that standard practice
The entire things is just a huge lie. It has zero to do with what is best for people for a start, and all the terms and labels that are used are completely false. So it's a lot of really false people layering even more false over the top. I just avoid those people, nowt but trouble.
Caitlyn Jenner roasts trans athletes = Turn on friendly fire
💀💀
Reloading.
Caitlyn jenner left the chat
Kicked for friendly fire
Honestly it's kind of awesome, there are a few trans women who speak against MTF people competing against women. It's refreshing to hear (as a woman) to be coming from an olympian. Anyone who is a serious athlete recognizes the sex differences that affect physical capabilities. I have literally nothing against trans people and want them to be happy but to deny the existence of an advantage from being born male is just so ignorant. Me (a woman who exercises and lifts and considers myself very strong for a woman): can't throw my dad over my shoulder and carry him off. Meanwhile, Dad: (hasn't lifted weights or done any dedicated exercise in years) can pick me up, throw me over his shoulder, and run up a sand dune (this happened a few years ago). I mean come on people are literally delusional. Do people really think that if you give Lebron James some hormones he's suddenly going to be athletically identical to the #1 WNBA athlete? LOL
Yoooooooooo... Joe!!! 😂
I appreciate men who support women sports remaining for female athletes who were born female. Men are great allies and are heard more so I am glad these men with large platforms are standing up for us 👍
Compettition is what makes sports interesting. No competition when jacked dude going against a female half his size
I mean sports would be a disaster.
WNBA ladies would get dunked on left and right.
USA Soccer already lost to a high school boys team.
Ppl who aren’t taking any hormones at all are running against girls in high school track.
The UFC fighter who didn’t tell their opponents they were born a man. I’m not saying there aren’t women who could win that fight, but they shouldn’t have to fight this fool.
Make a trans league or play in the men’s league. And I know no ones gonna watch the trans league and it’s gonna fold so just have the NBA pay for the TNBA just like they do the WNBA, which loses $10 million every year. EQUALITY
I could name quite a few females with far larger platforms.. but yeah
Everything doesn't really have to be men vs women.. we can be "allies"
Kinda the way it should be actually.
Yea that's not going to be fair at all. I'm all for inclusion of everybody, but I think that's going too far. Especially for young girls. Could u imagine watchin your young daughter unfairly getting sh** on week after week at every sporting event? No matter how hard she trains or how much time she dedicates towards it..its sad to think about
@@marwynthemasterful6369 yea youre right but tbf someone did beat that trans women in the ufc after she smacked down that other women.
Schulz common sense approach is appreciated in these crazy times
"I don't think she got all the Bruce out."
Some funny guy
Oooh Billy booze bag
the “porque no” caught me off guard 😂😂😂
Haha! Same here. 😂. They are in Miami after all.
Word 😂
@@jorgeadames1245 àaa
@@Alejosales 111
Igual 😂
Pero lo dijo tan lindooo ❤️
EXACTLY!! My biggest issues with the “trans movement” is the forced inclusion of biological men into women’s sports and this abusive push to irreparably transition children. Smh...
But why has our society created a movement of people who are sterilizing themselves and demanding the right to sterilize children also? Is it because so many young folks no longer want to breed because there are just too many of us for the planet to support? Economically, most of the things we need to survive are already owned by the previous generation and there is nothing left for us.
@@luddity false
My whole philosophy with transgender things is all after 18. Same age you can get a tattoo, vote, join the military, and make several other life altering decisions. It’s not that I don’t like transgender people it’s just that I know for a fact you have a way different way of thing when you’re 12 than when you’re 18. Thanks for the quick read.
People don't magically mature at 18. They don't magically make their own decisions without parental or external influence at 18. Brains keep keep developing until mid-twenties. Because puberty begins around 11-14, setting a barrier for hormone blockers with 18 equals higher suicide rate for trans people. There is no perfect system. It should be on an individual basis, with psychiatric evaluation, teacher interviews across the lifespan maybe too like with adhd (obviously there's no comparison). Gender is known to children as young as two. Gender identity forms extremely young by culture and society. Trust children who from age two, four, six and now are 14 to know that they do not identify with their birth sex.
@@MsBhappy sure let them express themselves how they want, but by no means should medical/pharmaceutical intervention be used as “treatment”
@@MsBhappy out of your whole (rather fair) spiel, this other guy 👆 has the stronger argument. I think that says something.
@@MsBhappy your statement is moronic and crazy.
@@eddiecano8488 you'll see trans suicides and lifelong depression in trans people stay the same or go up. Obviously, the key is to catch those who are simply non binary or confused before they make a life altering, body altering decision. The overwhelming majority of trans people know very young that their brain identifies as the opposite sex of that of their sex organs. There are two trans people in my family. Both didn't have the opportunity to transition until their early thirties. One married, had children and tore apart their family due to that decision and due to trying to live how society expected them to. If their hadn't been a stigma and if they'd had medical and family support growing up who knows what would have happened.
I've taken psychology of gender and a sociology course on gender. I encourage everyone to if they have the opportunity. I went in with a very critical lens, which is why I say that there is no perfect system. I'd pick the system which has the biggest chance at minimizing suicides but that's just me.
Its not about entertainment value or how the trans athlete feels, its about fairness. Its unfair for men to compete with women. I have read a few stories that high school girls are losing scholarships because they can't compete with men. What if a man self identifies as a child ( they exist), should they be allowed to play in little league sports???
Great point. No amount of surgery will change a person's birth gender no matter what they say.
I wanna identify as non-felon
@@thamayor6324 then dont get caught in the next life
@@personatthebay wiser words have never been spoken lol
I identify as a white man when I walk into a bank 🤷🏿♂️ it definitely doesn’t work 🤦🏿♂️
It's far from being only testosterone, it's about bone density, muscle fibers, reflexes and many other factors that, even if you start an insanely early transition, still remain. The difference is at the chromosome level and literally it means that it's at the level of each single cell in the body. You can’t cancel millions of years of evolution for a political agenda that popped out in the last 10 years.
Even just strategy and on the fly plays that men make, no one address this, everyone just thinks it’s all physical, guys just think and play smarter
Bigger lungs, different muscle structures (not all muscle fiber is the same), larger chests, longer limbs, more upper body strength... the list is long. A lot of those things do NOT change when you start blocking male hormones and supplementing female hormones. Your DNA is always the same- the hormones just change the expression of the DNA some.
Absolutetly true, even in videogames there's a difference between men and women, men have faster reaction overall to different visual stimulus.
The biggest thing is biological DNA. Even if you transition at no matter what age, your DNA WILL giving you an advantage, if you decide to compete. This is what people on that side of the fence don’t understand.
Even in Chess, and other games that are considered non-athletic sports... there is still a physical side to those players. Like conditioning, rate of fatigue, muscle cramps, all that factors into board games and card games.
Those are symptoms of testosterone...😚
Testosterone literally changes the way ur hips move, the density and strength of bones, the amount of blood ur muscles get, even after estrogen, many of those things stay the same
You could always lay off the estrogen if you wanted an advantage, too.
Not just density, bone, ligament and muscle size and shape are all different. Female bodybuilders are on all the drugs and they can't compete with the men.
There's a reason why there hasn't been an NBA vs WNBA collaboration yet 😭
The NBA isn't even gender locked. Women can try out for the NBA. Just no woman will ever be good enough to even make a G League team...
They'll prob get smoked 200 to 5
The US soccer team, who has won the most world cups in the female league, lost vs under 15 boys
@@sora4440 technically that's said for ALL "mens" sports. Women's sports are actually more sexist because men can't compete in them. There have been cases of women playing in men's sports. I recall one or two cases in the NHL.
@@sora4440 JV of a low ranked high school beats WNBA champs.
I think I actually figured this out...the people who are making this decision are people who have never cared about sports and potentially have disliked them. To them, what happens to sports is irrelevant and if it causes sports harm that is a really a good thing.
Finally someone understand this entire issue is sports fans vs non sports fans.
Those who get it and understand the struggle of what these people put themselves through vs those who don't care.
@@llwc9435 Gender Studies and the Validation for Gender Studies.
You can blame the current Democrqt party for this because Universities have become very left leaning.
@@llwc9435 feelings over facts... because facts are racist, homophobic, transphobic, mean... blah blah blah and other BS that these people brain fart out.
@@llwc9435 literally the exact same thing people said about homosexuality and interracial marriage, get over it the world is changing for the better
From the wikipedia page of John Money:
During his professional life, Money was respected as an expert on sexual behavior, especially known for his views that gender was learned rather than innate. However, it was later revealed that his most famous case of David Reimer was fundamentally flawed.[21] In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest. At the age of 22 months, Reimer underwent an orchiectomy, in which his testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and his name changed from Bruce to Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment, to which the parents agreed. Money then recommended a surgical procedure to create an artificial vagina, which the parents refused. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful.
During subsequent appointments with Reimer and Reimer's twin brother Brian, Money forced the two to rehearse sexual acts, with David playing the bottom role as his brother "[pressed] his crotch against" David's buttocks. Money also forced the two children to strip for "genital inspections", occasionally taking photos. Money justified these criminal acts by claiming that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".[4]
For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases.
just do trans games and trans competition... make them compete against each other... there's so many now, I'm sure they can find enough do to a national soccer team only with trans
Then they'll complain they don't get paid as much
Not enough trans people to have their own leagues
@@D00Rb3LL "how dare you say trans people are fewer in population than straight people?! You transphobic!"
@@DarthAssViolater 😹
Destiny Sheree 😂😂😂
As a female you guys crack me up...I'm a leftist and I agree with you. Seems like common sense has abandoned America
I’m libertarian n conservative but I wish we just smoke a j n just had as two different types of ppl all ppl could just vibe n get along n debate with love n respect ✊🏿
Trans competing against women is the logical conclusion to leftist ideology. Hard to be sympathetic
andrew: “there isn’t a men’s chess and a women’s chess”
men and women chess leagues:😐
women's chess only exists because women's chess sucks bad
Woman can compete in the “men” league, they have the rating system, i think 2000 is enough to be WGM or something like that but its like 2400-2500 for men.
Men are faster and more radical. That's why they dominate.
In my school ,state level or even district level chess players(Boys) could defeat girls who were national level chess players..There is little to no competition in women's chess.
4:30 maaaannn, that Spanish "Por que no?" Came natural AF, Florida is having some effects on AKAASH
Arabs can easily speak Spanish I don’t care if he indian same shit u get the point we use some same words
@@williamalmendarez9157 what ?? 🙄
@@williamalmendarez9157 When you say Indians have some of the same words as Arabic, can you clarify which of the 121 languages spoken in India you are referring to, or are you talking out of your ass?
@@williamalmendarez9157 dont compare indians to arabs.
@@williamalmendarez9157 🤣🤣🤘🏿
Just think if she competed against the women in the decathlon...Would have won gold until her 50s.
Women weren't allowed to compete in the decathlon in 1976, that's how you know he's a man.
@@apebass2215 Lol
He*
There isn't a decathlon for women in track, the women compete in the heptathlon.
His*
0:46 Agreed; it's unfair, that's why there are men and women categories in sports in the first place. But i was wondering if that also applies to motor sports? Transgender Muay Thai fighter Somros Polcharoen "Nong Rose" kept competing against men because she/he wanted to still compete with the best and wanted to wait after the end of her sport career to completely transition; that's very honorable, in my opinion.
“There isn’t women’s chess or men’s chess!”
Uh, yeah, Andy, about that. I’m afraid there is.
The World Chess Championship is open to both males and females. There is a women’s only league and due to the fact that women have never reached the final stage of the WCC..
The majority of "men's" league sports, are actually entirely open to women, just not the opposite, you don't see women in the NBA because they can't make the cut. Men aren't allowed to compete in women's leagues because they'd dominate.
@Jocky Basant I wonder why they created a women's only league.
“Wow! She’s really sucking on the pacifier, I think it’s a girl” 😂
"I've been watching cooking channels non-stop now" LMAOOOOOOO💀💀
I love how absolutely certain Schultz is about this
Schulz is the common sense in that room
the guy on the far far left is fucking moron lol
It’s really an issue about people who have played/love sports and people who never played nor loved sports.
Oooooft 👏👏 this. The asthma-prone failed drama students who never ran a race in their lives are the ones who are gunning the hardest for men and women competing against one another. Like 🤦♀️
Having a reasonable stance against something ridiculous is now considered roasting?
Welcome to the Delusional States of America!
AMERICA FUCK YEAH HIPPIES FREEDOM LIBERALS AND SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
Andrew is light years ahead in his arguments that his peers here. All l heard from the other guys is "eh it's no big deal, just inject that tst" like there are no ramifications or consequences on society.
"There is a different, why are we acting like there's not" very true
There IS men’s chess and women’s chess. I think it comes down to the fact that men are more interested in things while women are more interested in people. Generally.
A fellow Peterson follower
There is women's chess and open chess, where anyone, male or female, can compete. Open chess at the highest level is in effect men's chess the vast majority of the time.
@@viscount0405 yup
Men dominate chess, it's not even fair
@@viscount0405 Peterson did not create that data.
It's weird af that no one ever questions hormone therapy. People that I've seen talk about it like it's a normal, everyday thing. But it's not natural *at all*. It's hormone manipulation and the science of that has not been studied or tested very well
I remember a Rogan guest talking about this once.
@@weaksause6878 Abigail Shrier?
It has been tested pretty well at this point though. People need hormones sometimes because they are deficient not only during gender transitioning, and roiders have existed for ever.
@@10parth10 but are there a bunch of longitudinal studies? Cuz that's the real shit. I wonder how it affects people from age 18-70 if they get started at ~18yrs old?
@@weaksause6878 thanks! I'll see if I can find it
"Hes really sucking on that pacifier" Lol
Where are all the men like Andrew? Common sense and a sense of humor, I love it. 💛❤️🧡
In hiding, because having common sense these days is (x)-phobic/hate speech and being funny is a slippery slope unless you’re an established comedian because someone can and will always take your words and meaning out of context and use it against you lol
Don’t scare of being cancelled!! 😤😤😤
How is this comment section more polite and nuance about this then the now this news comment section on jenner? They are destroying her lmao
Because conservatives(a good chunk of this channel's viewers are conservative) are polite in nature as compared to liberals who tend to be compassionate(towards minority groups) and therefore vengeful to those who disrespect/disagree with *insert your favourite oppressed minority*. So yeah,it's prolly the libs giving him(Caitlyn) the shits.
true , im amazed
@@tuahahussain9176 100% this. If you "tow" their beliefs. Its "wow your brave" "courageous" but the moment you say something they dont agree with or a nuanced opinion (ie she's not saying that trans women are bad or should die or some bs or are second class citizens. Caitlyn is literally saying that hey they shouldnt be competing against biological women because it is unfair) then they attack you hard
@Dumdum Dum pardon?
@Dumdum Dum too*
Andrew is a libertarian, and he's slowly convincing his circle.
Can’t be a libertarian if you’re against trans people competing and the government getting involved that’s anti libertarian
Trying to gotcha, did not age well. Government does not and will not be involved. A libertarian can believe that the sports leagues/ organizations make the rules not government. Kinda like It is now silly! The Olympic committee just banned BLM at the next olympics, was that government making a rule? Thinks before you type.
@@clintonbuss2247 on the high school level, this is government involvement. State officials literally draft and sign these policies into law. On the Olympic level decision, it's not. Not a gotcha. Just facts.
@@Stephenwhite013 Being against men compiting in women's leagues is not anti trans. It's anti nonsence.
I have nothing against trans people, wish em all the best, but don't want to see them using biological advantages against women in sports, simply because it's not fair.
Libertarians support peoples freedom untill that freedom starts hurting others (like in this case).
_"Sometimes it takes a real man to become best girl."_
- A certain internet personality.
Schulz is just saying what most normal people think but are just too scared to say.
Because of this “wokeness”
“Been watching the cooking channel” 😂😂
Couldn’t agree more with Andrew!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I mean, how is this not common scientific sense? Feels like we’re all getting gaslighted by woke mainstream morons on the daily, I swear! Thanks for returning some of our sanity. 🇺🇸
gaslight is definitely the word for it. They’ll try their damnedest to make you seem crazy, stupid, hateful, etc., just for disagreeing on the topic of trans people in sports. It’s absurd
That thumbnail is fire🔥 Alex putting in that work
Andrew seems naturally in line to take over the Joe rogan podcast when Joe decides he's done
In Canada it's the opposite. If you don't transition your 3 year old, you're guilty of child abuse and the state takes your kid and puts them in a house that will transition them.
There was a story a couple weeks ago where a man got tossed in jail for referring to his 15 year old by her biological sex during a custody hearing.
@@dominickschrute3084 the inmates are running the asylum
As a Canadian, I am horrified by this trend. They should not be able to destroy your fertility before you even grow into it. It seems like a pernicious form of Eugenics to me.
Nah, most people don't dive deep enough into these issues; it's all lazy surface level stuff. I'm damn near communist and find Andrew funny but like most comedians, on complex issues, they think their high social and emotional intelligence is a substitute for intellect. They end up being arrogant about their ignorance.
Oftentimes, they miss the boat but because they actually try to think, I don't mind. I basically conclude, I see why HE would think that, which is fine.
It's impossible to be 'born in the wrong body'. So who's body do you have if it's not yours?
Just questioning highly precise biological processes in their free time like it's a donut flavour they didn't want
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 been saying that for ever. How? This idea should not even be entertained. Smh.
Well think about it, if their 'deep feeling' of the opposite gender is their true self and not the body they are born into. Then if they got run over by a train or decapitated, their 'true gender' should be able to go on and survive
exactly lol it always comes back to the phrase " its all in your head "
That's like saying "how are you mentally exhausted if you just woke up" Bruh it's literally psychological. Don't be an idiot.
When does the comedy start ?
Great conversation 👏🏾
See irreversible damage by Abigail Shrier
Read it. Love it
"when they gotta go pee do they squat behind a toyota tundra and hope their friend blocks them?" I'm done lmfao
That thumbnail had me cracking up😂
First time I genuinely laughed out loud multiple times watching a video.
New sub
Bro they should have their own trans league. Like I thought about it the other day some little prodigy girl said “I want to be a girl in the nba one day....” she was like 8... I was like bro in America they have coed at the recreational level lmao they should have professional rec. that way all those girls can be a bit more satisfied man. So yea make a trans league for them. Done
That will put asses in seats
Even if we did that there would still be controversy from them claiming they're still being excluded. They don't want their own sub category, they want to be IN the same existing ones, which we all know isn't fair.
Why do you have to use the word "Like"?? Why can't you just say- "I thought about it"?? Seriously, can you explain it to me.
Yeah because that’s going great for the women 😆 Let’s face it. They will never be satisfied because they are not men. They want to be us. It’s that simple. Give them their own leagues they will complain people don’t care about them as much as they do the men’s league. They won’t make as much money due to less interest and then they will blame the “patriarchy”. It never ends.
@@adamberry7982 Why do you put two question marks? "??". Why can't you just say "?"? Seriously, can you explain it to me??????????
Dude this guy is speaking FACTS
My emotions during this video: ◀️🔼▶️🔽
I love how Andrew speaks. I could listen to him all day lol. ☺️
Caitlyn would be such a good speaker for this issue if not for the fact she is just absurdly weird
@@llwc9435 if it makes that individual happy I dint really care
@@llwc9435 a bit of an exaggeration but If they put you in jail I will fight for your freedom as I do theirs
Republicans were surprised when Caitlin turned out to be pretty conservative lmaoo
Dude is a mess stretching logic and irrational into the same meat bag. How can you be so on the money but completely not get the fallacy home boy is living? Makes my damn head hurt
I am not a Republican but I am a conservative, I was overjoyed because the woke worshipped her, I watched their meltdown with so much joy 😂.
@@TitaT yeah and Fox News loved to belittle trans people but the second someone trans with some fame decided to run as a Republican candidate they air an interview on Fox News lmaoooo
@@97NikeSb most conservatives don't even like Fox news. they just take advantage of the fact that CNN is phony. so they do the opposite of CNN, but the ultimate goal is to make money.
@@TitaT lmaooo that’s bullshit they bow down to people like tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. Don’t give me this bs that a news outlet that caters to their beliefs and idolizes Republicans isn’t beloved by conservatives. Also nobody brought up CNN whatsoever, Fox News was merely brought up because they gave Jenner an interview. But shows how much whenever someone calls out Fox News yall love to bring up CNN as if calling them out on their bs dilutes Fox news’ hot trash.
Last part sound like a great black mirror episode
1:39 bruhh☠💀😂😂
I think the next guest in here should be Eliot page ! haha
"Unless you get them on the one week where they are all synced up, then they are able to go super saiyan and eat chocolate..."
That line had me wheezing!!
Yes Shultz! Straight up!!
I subscribed to flagrant-2 for conversations like this this involves funniness it involve serious questions and involve serious answers and it also asked and answers the questions that most people refuse to ask and answer
Greatest Akaash Bar of all Time : "They woke themselves into a circle"
Waiting for the Ben Shapiro vs Caitlin Jenner meltdown.
Why? They agree
@@lennartkaiser2809 do you know who Ben Shapiro is? No, they won't.
@@joshuahawrylak6819 Of course I know who Ben shapiro is(great guy).
Both do not want Trans-women to compete with Biological women
Dude Akaash needs to speak more in these. So underrated.
Thank you Andrew!!
Thank you Andrew for holding firm on your position. Akash has a great point to out woke them lmao
There is gender segregation in chess
Only one person was being honest during this discussion.
These guys are HILARIOUS!!
I can't help but believe that a multiple Olympic gold medalist winner and transgender has a pretty qualified opinion on the matter. 🤔
This podcast is basically 3 reasonable guys arguing with their asshole boss. But I'm still watching it ... So mission accomplished 😝🤣
Lol agreed
What I love about Andrew is just because someone makes a claim or statement about someone else’s view or position, he doesn’t just immediately buy it, he will question and want to know more
This conversation is spot on.
the trans man in college track was something like 170th in the ncaa his freshmen year, something like 250th his sophomore year, then after transitioning to women's track she was the top female runner in the ncaa.
dont quote me on the exact numbers but to put running into perspective, the world record mile by a woman is 4:12.33 by Sifan Hassan, there are about 200 high school men who have run a mile faster then 4:12.
I always find funny people like akaash who are "not sure" about giving sex changing hormones to kids,. Are you kidding me?? Thank you andrew for having the stones of saying what should be obvious to everyone else, thanks for being the sane one.
I fkn LOVE Schulz! Keep calling it like you see it bro! You're the GOAT!
"I watch cooking channel all the time" - I laughed loud on this, man!
What about the women who have sacrificed their life to a particular sport waiting to achieve greatness at the olympics and stuff, and then comes a biological man and crashes their dream? This is most unfair to the women, we shouldn’t care as much for the “trans” person, but for the women athletes.
Stash finally said what Ive been saying. Out woke them.
That’s the same kind of bullshit mentality that says affirmative-action is racist. Check yourself
@@CM-ro2du it is racist dummy
Andrew's getting that truth out now.
Can't wait to see how this goes
Love the tinnitus-inducing intro bro
Transitioning should wait until 25, when your brain is fully developed. That is a massive decision, and you need to have forethought before making a decision like that.
Outstanding to hear Schulz actually say what EVERYONE in the world thinks!
@4:03 Dwayne Wade, take notes lol
4:33 yes, they are in Miami
Y’all should bring on a like minded female! Not enough of us women with “unpopular” views on topics such as these, are heard! Maybe your wives/girlfriends/sisters..would be so interesting!!! Love the show!
In other countries you actually go to prison for NOT allowing your kids to transition at 8-9 years old😂
If my kids take 5 minute to decide between fruit snacks and teddy grahams for snack time, they dont get to decide what gender they are. Whatever is between their legs, that's your gender. They figure that out when they're 18 and out my house.
Which country is that?
@@anth0ni33 Canada
phenomenal podcast
"are they though" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"How many women's sports do you watch?"
Shultz: "I been watching cooking shows...."
Men are better at that too! 😭
yes, just look up top 20 chefs in the world
Hillarious lol
How many womens sports do you watch right now? "Dude I've been watching the cooking channel non-stop!" What an excellent joke...
When Akaash said "por qué no?" I thougth my head was broken for a second.
9:19 Best response ever