A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires. Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not. Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂 Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's CZcams - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
this is just flat out stupid on so many levels. Portable extinguishers are pressurized with dry nitrogen, not compressed air. It's monoammonium phosphate-based powder for ABC, consumer-grade baking soda is not used. All dry chemicals have anti-caking agents mixed in them. This is not reliable, and no fire extinguisher dealer will service a unit with a plastic head. Period. Fire extinguisher service is NOT A DIY PROJECT. That aluminum bottle can rupture. I can't believe I'm seeing this.
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
@thecatofwisdom Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
Congratulations on your creativity only! I've been in the fire extinguisher business for 30 years, EVERYTHING you did was wrong and could have killed you. Trust me...
Andre Gross Actually some of the plastic valve types can be refilled but this unit is disposable and is NOT made to be refillable. The rechargeable types are refilled by removing and completely cleaning the valve, replacing internal parts as needed, verify that the unit is not a recalled extinguisher and check the date for a hydrostatic test requirement, add the proper amount of agent, pressurize with a regulated nitrogen supply using special made recharge adapters, test for leakage. It takes proper training, tools, and supplies to perform it safely and insure that the extinguisher will work if needed. I've personally known people that have lost fingers, eyesight, and had various other injuries due to ruptures. Thanks for asking!
Andre Gross You're welcome! Mild steel dry chemical extinguishers are usually pressure tested at 3 times the gauge pressure (gauge pressure is generally 100PSI to 195PSI) . The burst pressure is about 5 times the gauge pressure.
This is a disposable fire extinguisher and is not designed to be recharged. Once used, you discard the entire unit. I'm not even going to comment further about the stupidity of this video.
He aint showing how to refill the fuckin extinguisher to put out fires he made the video to show how to change it's use to something else like a air gun or to spray shit like paint.
Shut the fuck up dumbass, you can use compressed air to fill it up because the baking soda puts out the fire and the air acts like blowing out the candle so therefore it puts out the fire and you are WRONG.👎👎
Your FE says ABC on it. It is highly illegal to put anything else back into it for recharging purposes. You are quite fortunate that you did not hurt yourself in this video.
No its not ILLEGLE to recharge a plastic valve body. However... this IS a disposable model and it should not be recharged. The person in the video is obviously not a reputable service tech. I've owned my company since 1978 and have seen people injured not knowing what they are doing. PLEASE do not try this "at home."
you do know it is illegal to do this because you have certified to do anything like this and not only that those fire extinguishers are not supposed to be refilled because the will fail eventually and they will leak because of the plastic. You should always take your fire extinguishers to your local fire extinguishers equipment co.
If it's in your own home, even as dumb as this may be I can't see it as illegal. If you try to sell it or place it in a public access area I could understand that because then you're putting others unknowingly at risk.
I filled mine with sawdust, it just made the fire bigger. Pretty cool though
what is the gas u put into the canister? Air from air compressor?
nitrogen, no air
ivan shedden thanks buddy.
yes it is compressed air, but you could use any inert gas
I filled mine with petrol.
Unfortunately the insurance didn't pay out
Fill it with diarrhea. Use it if someone gets out of their car and tries to road rage with you.
LOL, farkin Gold bro :)
A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires.
Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Ok
Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
thanks kid! so much better than putting a schrader valve like i did on mine. I make my own pepperspray. can get a large crowd in one shot with it!
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
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Correct, although if you have a 123 PSI Mono Ammonium Phosphate compressor like me its fine.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not.
Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂
Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
This guys gonna be on the Darwin awards list very soon.....
Another reason to not use compressed air is that it contains moisture, which may cause the contents to clump and/or foul the nozzle.
Use air from a SCUBA tank.
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's CZcams - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
"but it's CZcams - so whatever." --This is one of the best phrases I've seen in a long time. I hope you don't mind if I steal it.
Michael V steal on :). I was going to add "ignorance is bliss"
Thanks man
Mark Stafford hi
Mark Stafford, you are the best example of how someone can be smart, yet be such a dumbass that I am stealing your post.
Aluminum nitrate? That is incorrect. The white powder will either be monoammonium phosphate or sodium bicarbonate.
This one would be ammonium phosphate because it's an abc extinguisher. Bc extinguishers use sodium bicarbonate
The extinguisher demo can cause injury and or death by using unauthorized techniques.
+Alva [Al] Good I agree he should have said to wear safety goggles
+Wil Morris, Even then it would be stupid.
So can, walking your doggy!
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to
and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
This is totally safe IF you use an ALUMINUM fire extinguisher. Steel extinguishers will rust and explode. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I really hope nobody actually tries to do this... those are meant to be replaced. But cool video.
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
Thanks for the how to.
it's a good video . i used to refill my fire extinguisher all the time .. some times with water just for fun .. thanx man
yes it is. the extinguisher it self says discar/ replace after use. look it up again and consult a professional.
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
what type of air did you use to refill?
is it just a usual air?
and what type of nozzle that was used to refill?^^
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
When you mix the air with powder less air will flow out at once and it will take longer for the pressure to drop down
Its really to show how to refill with anything for instance im looking at this so i can fill on with paint ;)
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
Make sure your air compressor can hold more than 200 psi
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
Nice more information
could you refill it with the powder like they use for color runs?
S buchholz yeah, but use Oxygen.
That is exactly what I am trying to do. Is that really possible
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
@zipjunkie Now there's a firefighter we want coming to save us. One who wishes the victims he has to go save, lose everything. Give this man a raise!
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
Can these be refilled with liquid? If what kind of range would it have?
For those saying this is a not rechargeable unit, please look on the upper right of the label at 8:24, it is instructions for refilling this unit...
On the gauge it will say "Discard after Use" because that plastic valve is a price of junk, it will eventually leak off
Jeremiah Johnson Just looked on mine, it does not say that on the valve.
One of these exploded in my car today. Breathed quite of this...
That does not mean that it will hold that forever. In fact, that is to be retested every so often.
Instructions Unclear: I am now homeless😭
I love how the end gets cut off! "Joey what the fuck did you do in my kitchen, what are you doing with the fire extinguisher?
this is just flat out stupid on so many levels. Portable extinguishers are pressurized with dry nitrogen, not compressed air. It's monoammonium phosphate-based powder for ABC, consumer-grade baking soda is not used. All dry chemicals have anti-caking agents mixed in them. This is not reliable, and no fire extinguisher dealer will service a unit with a plastic head. Period. Fire extinguisher service is NOT A DIY PROJECT. That aluminum bottle can rupture.
I can't believe I'm seeing this.
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
Nice,,but forget the paper funnel,,it;s a zip lock bag,,seal the top, turn it over and cut off one corner,, then just let it run into the canister
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
you could have sipped the corner of the plastic bag off to put the powder back in the fire container!
If you are not supposed to breathe the powder, I would recommend using a mask when you're handling it ;-)
All I want to know? If done right, With caution, can it be done? Because I have so many empty ones and it’s a shame.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
+n4ktz The expellent should not be air. The type of gas must be what the instructions list. Nitrogen, Argon, are some of the gases to use.
i love your .... parts bolts nuts tray container stahd.. thing. on the right xD
Dont know what its called.got a higher thinner one. but i love this!!
No it would not blow up diesel because the air is pre compressed and has no temp 9:25
I thought they said those were disposal fire extinguishers
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
Probably could kill the fish if any powder is left
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
Oxygen not CO2 to yes there are CO2 extinguishers
Cool
People keep saying use nitrogen. But in the beginning he said, FOR A AIR GUN!
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its not the air that snuffs it though its the powder (depending on the make and model)
i need to fill an exstinguisher with bed bug powder and wait two weeks then vacuum it all up
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
When do you weight the extinguisher?
how many psi does my compressor have to produce. I have a small walmart aircompreesor for filling tire and
for air brushing
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
Thanks ❤
When was the valve stem and valve head seat cleaned?
the extinguisher are recharged only whit CO2 GAS!!! air presured only encrease the fire!!
How did the air and powder seperate
Thanks, wish I knew 20 years ago how to do this. I've thrown away a lot of extinguishers.
to refill it does he use a special type of nozzle ??
plz do fill me in
The name of the video should have been " How to make a Thunder Gun"
reload it with what? with the air compressor?
@thecatofwisdom
Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
the powder is a mixture of sodium bicarb and aluminum nitrate
how many pounds of air pressure did you put in
what is the name of the tool you use in filling the fire extinguisher with air in 3:04 ?
This seems dangerous.
Is it possible to refill it with AFFF?
What types of gas is used for pressurized the cylinder??
Nitrogen
Congratulations on your creativity only! I've been in the fire extinguisher business for 30 years, EVERYTHING you did was wrong and could have killed you. Trust me...
I agree I've only been in it for 6 years, but even I know this is ridiculous
I'm not arguing with you at all, but out of curiosity how would one be properly filled? I don't think plastic ones can be refilled though.
Andre Gross Actually some of the plastic valve types can be refilled but this unit is disposable and is NOT made to be refillable. The rechargeable types are refilled by removing and completely cleaning the valve, replacing internal parts as needed, verify that the unit is not a recalled extinguisher and check the date for a hydrostatic test requirement, add the proper amount of agent, pressurize with a regulated nitrogen supply using special made recharge adapters, test for leakage. It takes proper training, tools, and supplies to perform it safely and insure that the extinguisher will work if needed. I've personally known people that have lost fingers, eyesight, and had various other injuries due to ruptures. Thanks for asking!
Thank you for answering! How mush PSI is a fire extinguisher built to handle (not in the sun).
Andre Gross
You're welcome! Mild steel dry chemical extinguishers are usually pressure tested at 3 times the gauge pressure (gauge pressure is generally 100PSI to 195PSI) . The burst pressure is about 5 times the gauge pressure.
i refilled mine with capsaicinoids, for self defense purpose
That extinguisher model is a recall.
So?
This is a disposable fire extinguisher and is not designed to be recharged. Once used, you discard the entire unit. I'm not even going to comment further about the stupidity of this video.
Aha juat got a homemade krink fire extinguiser!!!!!!! :D
Another reason this is stupid is that someone might pick it up to fight a fire and find that it accelerates the fire instead.
Congratulations, you have just made a fire extinguisher that makes the fire bigger. You are supposed to use nitrogen, using air just feeds it.
+A Lollypop ur a dumb ass
THAT POSH ? Prove your point, prove that I am a dumbass.
He aint showing how to refill the fuckin extinguisher to put out fires he made the video to show how to change it's use to something else like a air gun or to spray shit like paint.
THAT POSH The title of the video clearly says "How to refill a fire extinguisher".
*That means the title of the video is wrong, dumbass.*
Shut the fuck up dumbass, you can use compressed air to fill it up because the baking soda puts out the fire and the air acts like blowing out the candle so therefore it puts out the fire and you are WRONG.👎👎
very cool video!!1
@thecatofwisdom The last thing you ever may hear is BOOM!!!
i have a freakin' FirstAlert extinguisher, and it's only read to recharge at 100 p.s.i.
kek only reason im here is using a fire extinguisher to make an air gun
+Balto Maybe, lol me to
I thought that they would explode if you filled them to much?
I cant get it open?
Your FE says ABC on it. It is highly illegal to put anything else back into it for recharging purposes. You are quite fortunate that you did not hurt yourself in this video.
@Captaincaveman67 Isnt it better to let the professionals do that?
Just a tip.
No its not ILLEGLE to recharge a plastic valve body. However... this IS a disposable model and it should not be recharged. The person in the video is obviously not a reputable service tech. I've owned my company since 1978 and have seen people injured not knowing what they are doing. PLEASE do not try this "at home."
How fare of much do you fill it
Jesus Christ there are so many things wrong in this video. - from a 25 year experienced fire protection professional.
Holy Sh*t..... Where the F*UCK is the Fire Marshal?
WTF you my friend are leading people down the wrong rabbit hole. Very dangerous topic needs an extinguisher to work 100% of the time.
After this procedure, it doe's not keep his pressure.
I think I will keep a couple of boxes of baking soda instead. Those things go empty before you ever use them. What a scam.
you do know it is illegal to do this because you have certified to do anything like this and not only that those fire extinguishers are not supposed to be refilled because the will fail eventually and they will leak because of the plastic. You should always take your fire extinguishers to your local fire extinguishers equipment co.
If it's in your own home, even as dumb as this may be I can't see it as illegal. If you try to sell it or place it in a public access area I could understand that because then you're putting others unknowingly at risk.