Why Do Dobermans Turn on Their Owners?
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- Do Dobermans randomly snap and turn on their owners? Do their brains outgrow their skull size? This has been a long-standing myth about Doberman Pinschers. But is there any truth to this? In this video we talk about why this is a myth, how Dobermans are hard-wired with a steady temperament, what the dog bite statistics say, and what real-life health conditions might be partially to blame for the prevalence of this myth. No, Dobermans don't turn suddenly aggressive. They are loving and gentle dogs with a reputation for unmatched loyalty, and here's why.
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My mom was all nerves when we found out we brought home our Doberman. She apparently started doing research on her own and SHES the one who introduced me to your channel! Your channel helped her let down her worries and now she LOVES DOBERMANS and is a great dog grandma 😊
Thanks so much JC for sharing that! I love hearing that videos like this are making a difference! That's so great!!!
The death statistics of pitbulls is a lie on that chart...they just need to be honest and say they just don't like the breed don't lie on the stats about a breed
Thank you so much for your message......my son adopted a Doberman puppy just 5 days ago and I am all nerves! I haven't slept well out of sheer fear of the giant intimidating pet that we are going to raise..... I am having nightmares of BITES....we have so many house helpers....and they often keep changing.... I am unable to sleep thinking how I shall be able to handle this..... I can't lift a finger as far as house work is concerned and we have a huge house.... I don't know if we will ever have any replacement helpers if the existing one leaves because of this huge scary pet with such powerful jaws and a set of teeth..... I don't know what the future holds for me.... I am so very petrified.....
@@anamikachaudhury6835 socialization is the key! Even though the vet may say no paws on the ground till they get the rabies shot, we carried our pup around in a tote bag, went everywhere with them. Would you mind petting my pup? Have your son take him to positive obedience classes and/or join the local dog club so you can get many classes with different instructors at a reduced cost once you're a member. Suzanne Clothier's Automatic Check In is a must. That's the first thing we teach in any of our classes. Start now with more and better treats when hands are by the food dish so they're thinking where's my treat, rather than I'm going to nail you. This is with any pup, but socialization before the 16 week mark is the most crucial. All kinds of people, animals, places, etc. Then for getting them used to kids - ear pinch, treat, toe pinch, treat, tail tug, treat - again so they're thinking where's my treat rather than I'm going to nail you. Check out Joel Beckman videos for training too - he's awesome - no nonsense, but all without prong collars or shock collars, plus he has a Doberman helper dog. My one Dobe is a therapy dog so we visit the students at the local college, also visit the airport. Scent work or nose work helps to build a dog's confidence, and a lot of Dobes make great trackers and have even seen them at barn hunts. Check out the events section at AKC.org and go see a show to see if anything might interest your son. Hope this helps.
@@anamikachaudhury6835 Dobermans are only a threat to those who endanger their pack. As in any large dog they are pack animals and protect what is theirs. I grew up with attack and recall Dobermans who were trained guard dogs. The only time I was bitten was when I was in an argument with my sister because I didnt want her to leave. Ep (the dogs name) was a German Dobe my mom had at the time got between my sister and I and was growling (warning me) and when I made a move he let me have it. My fault completely for acting like that. So fear not one bit about that dog in any way shape or form. Sleep with the dog and he / she will make you a member of his / her pack.
In 35 years as a Dobermann owner 10 Dobes down the line never had one turn on me yet !!If I was to find a problem with the breed it's that they don't live forever.
Thank you Homer my big boy went 14 years the best dog best temperment all around good boy. No such thing as a bad dog in my 60 years of dog's lots of bad humans all the dogs are what i turned them into good loving companions.
@@thuss5162 Yes Mate! No bad dogs!!!Just bad owners!!!
T Huss Awww, I can only pray and of course spoil my girls with love and health in order that they live to be 14yrs.
@@djyul An empty bumper sticker slogan that will not hold up to reason.
@@thuss5162 There are, "lots of bad humans", but, "no such thing as a bad dog"? That is some politically correct nonsense that won't hold up to reason.
You have no idea what a great service you are doing to this beautiful breed and species.
Man, you have no idea how much that meant to read. Thank you for this comment. I really hope it's true.
@@DobermanPlanet all I can tell you brother is this. You dint choose to adopt Dobermen. They chose you. Might seem heavy. But it's the truth.
@@DobermanPlanet I hope you enjoyed doing this video and please do more
It definitely is !!! My MacArthur was a 140lb. loyal friend !!! Miss him R.I.P.
@@richardfurlott4243
❤️😔. I know what it’s like to lose a part of yourself like that.
I’m am sorry for your loss Richard.
There will never be another MacArthur. Ever.
But I pray you have or will find another that will love you as much as you love them.
We've rescued 7 Dobermans. Not one hint of aggression. Protectiveness, yes. No aggression.
Very cool seeing Aldo grow up. Thanks for that.
So glad to hear you've had such a great experience... with rescues who have unknown backgrounds no less! That's so great and speaks volumes about the breed. Thank you for posting your experience James!
Why have you cropped and docked
Cropping is objectively abusive. Reminds me of the body mods in a lot of African societies such a inserting discs into the lower lip or ears or binding the feet etc etc . The difference is dogs cannot consent. It just ain’t right
Where do you rescue Dobermans? All my searches send me to what looks like spam sites.
@@kenhammscousin4716 in the long run it's better for the dobermans health because the big floppy ears although they're cute can lead to earmites and could get infected if the owner doesn't have the time to sit down and do the treatments, while trimming the ears let's airflow through the ear canals which has a significantly less chance of infection
when I was getting prepared to own my very 1st Doberman (36 years ago), my girlfriend at the time said this exact same thing to me "their heads are too small for their brain and that will cause them to attack me". Needless to say, I did not keep the girlfriend around for very long, had my baby (Dob) for 11 years. Greatest dog, to this day she is still in my heart and I still miss her, had such great and memorable times with her!
I have a question 😀
If you don't mind answering some.
I had an ex gf tell me the same thing...like I said- ex.
Smart move my friend ! May your Dobbie R.I.P. .
Seems yoiur girlfirend's brain was too small for her head...the dog was perfectly fine.
I have owned and trained Doberman Pinschers for well over 30 years. There is only one problem with a Doberman; they have a short life-span.
Most of my Dobies lived to be 14 years old. Just had to put my last one to sleep. He was 14 1/2. He had heart failure. Guess you can't expect all that much longer life span from a large dog.
Opioo
My neighbors young 1.5 yr old doberman from pneumonia!! I miss him so much. I noticed I wasn't hearing his bark and hadn't see him. I was so afraid to ask about him because I was afraid he was gone. They brought him to a horrible vet well known by me to not diagnosis effectively. I don't understand this. The quack vet said he was fine. So they did nothing. Apparently he got worse and another vet gave him antibiotics. Too little too late. I am crushed as I always loved to see him and always praised him. Does anyone know why he would have developed pneumonia?
and that is a big problem for me, I love my pets and suffer pretty hard when they need to go
@@johncruise496 Possible parvo virus.
When I was smaller this breed of dog saved my life! Her nAme was boe and she literally grew up with me. She was the most gentle dog you ever made never bothered anyone and always made friends with other animals and humans until one night being in a domestic violence situation out of my control when I was a child she stepped in and wouldn’t let them hurt me and it was not like her at all to ever show aggressiveness. Before something bad happened and there was chaos going on around me she would sit on my feet and I would hug her and cry I don’t know why did she was just my comforter and always look at me and wine and I thought she understood what I said. Then things started getting worse and she never showed any signs of growling or anything. Until that person got too drunk and was trying to take our lives. It’s like she knew and she attacked him and there was so much screaming from everyone in the room but when I said no she quit and immediately come over there and sat beside me and everyone stayed away for me the whole time until cops got there. She was my hero. Never in her lifetime she ever showed any violence or anything until that night. She literally had the cat run her off her food bowl every night or I had to sit out there and hold the cat while she ate. She died at age 12 with the old age. She was honestly a gift from God and God use his precious animal to protect us as children when it was out of our control.
Wow interesting story
I really miss my doberman. :(
Amazing story! I hope everything turned out ok for you. 🙏
Wow! that was an amazing story! Dobermans are sooooo loyal! I remember when I used to have sever migraines and was sick for 12 hours my Male Doberman would stay with me the whole time go to the toilet as I threw up then I would lie down and he would like down etc. They know when your sad, happy, in need of protection etc. The one you had was such a good dog that it even listened to you when he was attacking the person. That is huge!!! How loyal!!!
Someone must be cutting onions
Hi im a 10 years old boy i love doberman
Now my dad will buy me a doberman
Thank you sir
Congrats! Enjoy!
Thank you sir i love your youtube videos
Im planning to make a doberman CZcams channel is that a good idea
Uno Yosmar Corachea yes
@@yeszgaming8589 LMAOO🤣
@@yeszgaming8589 nice
Remember those old movies like “The Doberman Gang” and “They only kill their masters?” Those movies planted a seed of distrust. Like Jaws.
I do wonder how much of that plays a role. I'm sure it does. If anyone is interested I have a running list of movies and television shows featuring Dobermans here: www.dobermanplanet.com/famous-dobermans-in-movies-and-television/
If you run down the list it's crazy how almost all the movies have them cast in a negative light.
I wish they would make a movie specifically about a Dobermans amazing physical and mental abilities to protect their families from evil. That would be a bad ass movie. I would love to create write and direct that movie. Or even a movie of a Doberman getting revenge but it would be a much sadder movie but retribution in the end. The only movie I can think of and the most underrated Is the one with John Travolta from the early '90s. I believe the movie is called Eyes of an Angel. It's about John Travolta's character and his daughter taking in a poor Doberman That's been roughed up from an underground dog fighting crew.
Woah okay... For a second i thought that said jews at the end. Well placed crack on my screen just fucked with my head. Yes. JAWS did plant a fear and distrust of sharks and the ocean in general.
Sharks do bite ppl and if there isn’t many sharks attack on humans it’s cause we don’t live on the ocean dummy! But if the ocean had millions of ppl swimming in it how many ppl you think would die in a year?
@@DobermanPlanet I think it's also partly to do with how they're modified - the cropped ears make it look more fierce, but their natural ears are soft, floppy and make them look much more endearing. Plus, I think some owners deliberately abuse their dobermans to make them more aggressive, fierce and terrifying. Ear cropping was illegal in my home country, so the first time I saw a snarling doberman with cropped ears in an American movie (I was still a child at the time) I was absolutely horrified by it, especially with my own loyal girl right next to me, with her velvety soft oval ears.
I am a retired 1st responder, have PTSD and have been researching FULL Psychiatric Service Dogs for PTSD (not simply "emotional support" dogs). I was very surprised to see this breed was near the top of the list for Psychiatric Service Dogs. Aside from being intelligent and trainable enough to learn necessary tasks (nudge owner out of bed when they are depressed, remind them to take meds and provide a type of pressure/massage on the owner to relieve anxiety), they are really tuned in.
So we are all just going to pretend like he wasn’t wearing a Schrute Farms shirt?
Here's the end of the story... My wife and I have recovered well with some permanent disability due to bite wounds from an attack on October 21, 2020. My wife spent 12 days in the hospital after being attacked by a three year old male European Doberman that we "took in" from a guy who had kept it in a pet kennel for most of it's life (because of his work schedule). We had this dog for approximately 39 days. As I was working in my detached garage that evening, the dog went berserk and mauled my wife... nearly to death. He bit her finger off and almost bit off many more. He inflicted around sixty bite wounds to her hands, abdomen, and arm.
There were several miracles which occurred that night, or my wife would have died. I was able to enter the house in time to wrestle it off her, place it in a chokehold, and eventually shoot it with two handgun rounds after a ten minute wrestling match between me and the dog. I also sustained several bite wounds. It was brutal, yet God saved her life... and mine!
We did not have health insurance at the time, yet our bills are finally paid in full! We also had our seven month old female Doberman at the time. We still have her. She is awesome and is now two years old. Harley, our female, is our fourth Dobie and is a JEWEL and a big lover!
It's NOT the breed... it IS THE OWNER! IF you want to read the amazing account, check it out at: gofund.me/1e6e0e04
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Andy in Upstate New York
Wow that's scary. One of the main reasons I'm hesitant on a adopting am older dog. So glad everything turned out okay for you and your wife
@@p3teytran guard dogs must never be adopted older, because they bond with fewer people.
@@DosPerspectiva not necessarily true.. MOST of the "guard" or protection dogs I've owned were already at least 2-3 years old when they came to me & I never had any issues with any of them. Even a 130lb male Rottweiler who was raised by a moron who COMPLETELY de.Socialized the dog and had it "trained" to just attack anything that got close enough 🤦 instead, I actually saw relief in the dogs attitude when he realized I was going to teach him things, play, give him his exercise and he no longer had to live outside alone looking for things to bite.. That dog made me the most nervous too. I was almost positive it wasn't going to workout. But he ended up becoming a great dog & lived to 14.
Wow I'm sorry to hear.. but I love that you recognise its not the dogs fault. Majority of the time it's the fault of humans, neglect and or abuse, the other tiny percentage would be something like a tumour or illness and even rarer the dog is nasty. All breeds suffer bad names because of people's ignorance, neglect and or abuse! They say "Adopt don't shop" but I highly disagree .. 99.9% of dogs in rescues have a history of abuse and or neglect, this means they need experienced owners... not newbies! and even someone experienced could end up being harmed.. sadly a good percentage of dogs in rescues I'd say are too damaged 💔 and would be better off pts 😢
Because my wife is infinitely more valuable than any dog, I don't give a s*** about having to kill the dog. It needed to die. Thank God it was not one of our little grandkids. They would have surely succumb to their injuries if the dog had attacked one of them!
A dog is a dog... We humans were created in God's Image,
YOUR A GREAT AMBASSADOR FOR THE DOBERMAN. ONE OF THE BEST
Thank you! That means so much to hear. Thank you for leaving this comment, really made my day.
100% my Dobbie ambassador!!!!
As a proud Doberman owner, you are doing a great service for the breed. Maximus and I constantly get the "look" from so many people who are uneducated about the breed.
Thankfully Maximus has become an ambassador for the breed and changes people's minds on the daily.
Continue with the great work, love your channel!
I found when I was 10. (30 yrs) to show off their intelligence! I'd say " I am 10 walked 1 mile on busy [
Road, walked here with out leesh,shopped and came out here,u did too,I've not given him a command but he is in-between u n I, I am eating and he hasn't took his eyes off u. Then I'd give him bunch of commands with my hand without a word. Ice breaker. They knew my Harley will kill him without comand,but I'd say, pet him, ask for paw,hrs cool! But every thing u ask he ask me first,watch!
Lol! The mock attack in the beginning of the video had me rolling!!!
Haha so glad you enjoyed it. It was pretty tough to get Arlo to look aggressive. I had to do my best in editing to make his kissing attack look vicious. Didn't really work! Haha.
Doberman Planet I figured as much!😂🤣😂
He kept licking to let you know he was still taking orders.
Your baby is so pretty. He is growing like a weed. And your human child is adorable too
Weed?
Thank you! Yeah he really is growing incredibly fast. It still surprises me! Really appreciate you taking a second to leave such a nice comment too! :-)
Always look forward to your videos. Well researched n effort to be truthful, with very interesting n helpful info. Enjoy watching cute n adorable Arlo interacting with your children. Kudos for your video.
@@DobermanPlanet i love how he is growing he is so cute and is starting to look like a handsome boy
@@user-jr6yt8wl2x it is an expression that means growing really fast. Weeds by nature grow really fast. If you have a garden you are always in the garden pulling them so the expression "growing like a weed" means one is growing so fast it is hard to believe.
my experience with dogs owners, in general, is how they make excuses for any aggressive behavior in their pets. I have known personally of two owners whose non-specific breeds have bitten their child or grandchild, and nothing happened to the dogs. I also would question how them being so protective of their owners as not a problem, I was visiting my aunt, and her medium sized dog became very aggressive with me, she said it was protecting her, and I guess it was, but frankly who knows?
Large aggressive dogs are just very problematic, and small children should be supervised when they are around in my view. No doubt a great dog, still a dog, and everyone needs to recognized that.
My sister used to be scared of Dobermans because she watched something like UP but then when I showed her this channel now she wants to get a Doberman
That's me... first of all they were always painted as evil and vicious in shows and movies. Then there was Casey that scared the hell out of me a few doors down. The time I returned the wheelbarrow and Casey was in the garage. STOP - DROP and RUN.
Wow he said the same thing I said about the Movies.
I have NEVER in my life have considered any dog in my life dangerous 😂 even if they are growling at me 😂😂
Wait till she owns one... She really love Dobermans.
No; a working breed of dog developed to guard fenced areas and attack humans for soldiers (Germany and police) is not for regular owners. Get a dog breed that is easy to manage (Beagle, Lab, Golden Retriever, etc.) and stop fantasizing. A working breed is for experienced and dedicated owners who train the dog well... and nearly no one ever does any training at all in a class. Ask real dog pros and they tell you the same thing.... they get the dogs that owners cannot/will not train and manage.
@@DougHinVA they could also just get a show line or something; they don't HAVE to get a working line.
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My friend got his ear bitten off... by his cocker spaniel. COCKER RAGE is a real thing.
When you said "COCKER RAGE" I started laughing like there was no tomorrow
Far too many people walk right up to and bend over Cockers thinking, "Oh what a cute little fluffy doggy!"! To bend over a dog is a position of dominance and to a dog that doesn't know you it represents a threat! Even from owners this can be construed as an attack! For a very long time Cockers topped the list as the dog most likely to bite and in 99% of the cases it was because they were approached by someone who knew nothing about dominance/submission and just wanted to pet a pretty dog! Squatting and calling the dog to you is the best way to avoid a bite but most of us Humans don't have the courage or the sense to do it correctly. Usually out of our own fear! "COCKER RAGE", is nothing more than stupid people doing stupid things and getting stupid results!
@@wearytraveler3524 Well bad breeding is also part of it, producing excessive timidity which can cause fear-based aggression.
More like why humans turn on their Dobermans
That can happen for sure :-(
Tell me their names and addresses😠
humans but how about aliens?
Yessss
@@justinboroughs5974 and you might need to bring your doberman
I have had a Doberman for close to 14 years and I bought her when she was around two years old. She was a great dog with us specially with the children despite the fact that we had her at two years old.
She learn a lot from us and we learn a lot from her and when she passed she left a void in our hearts. Now when I write this I started crying. God I must and we must her.
Her name was MINDY
My dog has this clingy habit where she leans on me. But I love it. She is so sweet!
I love that you talked about a Dobe facing the door when they sleep! Great point!! Love the information you share!!🖤🤎🤍
My 8.5 year old 105 lb Doberman is the love of my life. I'm alone now, divorced and he's been with me through it all. I'm 54 and disabled. We never spend a second apart. He goes on every ride with me in my truck.
He truly has saved my life. I've had him since he was 8 weeks old. I tried to breed him, bought a female pup and he hates her. She would jump all over him , but he tried to kill her once.
He's good with the cats, for some reason, but hated Artemis. I gave her to my X who let me have Kaiser during the divorce. He was 18 month then .
I don't know what will happen to me when he passes. That's how much I love this Doberman.
I suggest everyone get one. He has his own Xtra cushioned futon in the living room and of course sleeps in bed with me.
Great guard dog and like you said, 100 lb lap dog, 105 in NY case.
I love your videos man!
Hope your boy's still going strong. They're incredibly loving dogs.
I grew up with the Doberman belonging to our neighbours. He was tall, strong, gentle, affectionate, funny and - above all - utterly loyal and very, very protective. When we were teenagers, one night the dad of that family suddenly died. At age 48. Their Doberman would have seen and sensed the awfulness, tension, alarm and horror going on around him. When the doctor arrived, the Doberman simply would not let him enter the house, barring his way, growling, hackles raised. He didn’t know that doctor, and wasn’t going to allow a complete stranger into his family’s house during a time of trouble.
Absolutely love your videos and look forward to them! I love that they are fact based and full of reliable information. I hope we will be adding a Dobie to our family in the near future, and I feel confident that with your videos and resources we’ll be able to raise a great family member!
I have a dobie, one day in the park, an older lady stoped me and asked me if "'this'' was a doberman so i told her it was. Than she asked me if I know that when he grow up he will kill me(because "something will grown in his brain"). I was just staning there and told her that i know and it will also grow black wings and horns. She just left lmao.
I had an old lady at a restaurant tell me Doberman were vicious ! My 140lb. MacArthur loved kids ( especially young girls ,) .
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I remember when I was a child (early 80's), I was in the emergency waiting room with my mom (can't remember why we were there). Anyways, a lady walked in holding her face - it was all bloody and she was crying. She sat next to us and my mom asked her about her injuries. She said her two Dobermans turned on her and attacked her face for no reason. She said she raised them from puppies and they're not aggressive towards anyone. She was shocked and emotional about the whole thing. From that day on, my mother had harsh opinions of Dobies... I was also convinced they were a dangerous breed! Flash fwd to present day.. Now, I own a doberman. Raised her from 8 weeks old - shes 7 years old now. My mother was not thrilled at my choice, but there really is no other breed that compares. My female doberman is my best friend. The most protective, intelligent, and loyal dog I've ever owned.
That makes me curious on why would the Dobies attack her. Was it her fault??
@@dmdyjim2539 She may have not asserted herself as alpha so when she did something that they didn't considered appropriate they attacked her.
Always true !!!
@@dmdyjim2539 you just need to let your dog that you're the alpha and their friend, not his boss
Scary situation for a mom to witness though. Im considering a dobe in the future and hearing of these stories are scaring me away as 3 young children
I have owned five Dobermans, and have never had one turn on me. They’ve all been loving wonderful companions. I absolutely love Dobermans for their personality and their beauty. The only reason one would turn on an owner is because the owner was being cruel, and even then I think it would take a lot for a Doberman to ever turn on its owner.
I live this video. my parents used to pass on the story of Dobe's turning. I didnt really believe them because my very sweet, gentle uncle had a Doberman who loved me. When we visited he would single me out and do the single most viscous thing he ever did to anyone- pin me against the wall or fence lick my face off. He did it gently but to 5 yr old me he easilly overpowered me and I would usually laugh. When I stopped laughing that's when the adults would stop him. His name was Jake. I still miss him 34 yrs later.👍😀
That's a great story! Haha. Yeah a that pinning you and licking you thing sounds about right!
John, once again friend you are doing an extreme justice to the Doberman breed with your intel and personal experience. Thank you again for sharing Cooper and Arlo throughout your channel. Our six month old pup loves to watch along side and see his distant cousin Arlo!
There's something about the breed something about the bond as I can describe it. As a baby growing up till 6 years old my parents had a Doberman. From 2007 to 2018 we had another Doberman... Saleen. I've had chihuahuas, I've had miniature pinschers, Pomeranians, Weimaraner, Rottweiler, but there's just something about the Doberman Pinscher. Their extreme loyalty & intelligence?. Again words can't describe it.
I totally agree with you. That same indescribable bond that you are having trouble putting into words is why I became so passionate about this breed in the first place. It's crazy once you've experienced a Doberman's loyalty how it changes you. I'm pinning your comment to the top because others need to see it. Thanks for leaving this comment Justin!
Thanks John. I'm so glad I stumbled upon your channel. You have such great and helpful, informative, videos that I very much enjoy. Please keep up the great work. Thank you so much
Amen
Doberman Planet I know exactly what you mean! It’s my first time owning a dog and I actually decided to adopt an 8 year old Red Doberman and within the first week we already have an exceptional bond. It’s by far the greatest decision I could have made...they’re exceptionally loyal and in my opinion the best breed of dog! I couldn’t be happier!
Miss my big red male Dobie Dakota..the sweet loyal... obedient...sweet and always ready to do whatever what they are told..Rest in peace.
Love the intro, sorry even with the intense music and your Oscar winning theatrical performance of being scared, all you can see is the love and playfulness in Arlo lol... Loved it though! Made me chuckle!
Some interesting information I didn't know about with CCD and the thyroid hormone issue! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it Blaker! Haha. Yeah I tried as best I could in editing to make Arlo's kissing attack look vicious but I think I failed! Haha. He had lots of fun filming that and jumping all over me that's for sure.
@@DobermanPlanet well it was awesome!
So in other words we’re more likely at risk to be snuggled to death 😂
Amanda Hibbs this comment made me laugh 😂
Amanda Hibbs or fall out or pushed out bed 😁
I can vouch for this my 2 think they're lapdogs
It's true. Woke up with my legs entangled with my doberman and it took a minute to sort things out before I could move. If a fire broke out I'd be dead.
Precisely, great point. Unless a Doberman owner It's one of the worst and abusive owners still it's hard to imagine. The only way I see is a government loving and owner to death. A priceless bond cherished everyday. Took me years to get through the day of my previous Doberman (Saleen) passing.
Your videos are super helpful! Getting my 1st Doberman in July and can’t wait.
Been waiting one for yrs and finally found a good breeder that I felt comfortable with and confident I was getting a good healthy pup.
Love these snippets of your kids and dobie babies playing and chilling together.
Chasing bubbles babies - priceless!
And this video sequence of the “dobie turning against his human” to an alarming, suspense building tune” - 😂😂😂
Thank you for busting these myths and providing treasure troves of info!
I've had a couple of dobermans and they never snapped or turned on us. In fact when my daughter was in the crawling on the floor stage, my doberman would hover over her as if protecting her. Most loyal dogs ever.
My first male doberman developed the fluid bump on his head around 18 months old. This is when he started becoming human agressive and began to bite and attack people without reason, family members even. The vet said the pressure on the brain was probably causing the behavior. We had to put him down around 2yrs old as the attacks became more and more frequent. If you have never witnessed a 90lb dobermans attacking someone, it's the most horrifying and scary thing I have even seen and felt. I still have the scars on my arm to remember him by. Although very rare, it's a true condition....
Bots are getting really convincing these days….
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I’m always looking forward for your videos every week!
Really enjoying your videos. Have recently been considering getting another dog as my last one passed away a year ago. Was considering a couple of different breeds but after watching your content have fallen in love with the doberman. So many wonderful personality traits would make it an ideal companion for me. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience about these often misunderstood animals.
I have had Dobermans since 1978. Enjoyed the video. I'm truly hoping that all comments on here about wanting a doberman will go to the Rescues. There are so many dobermans in rescues all across the US. I have rescued 6 since 78 and all were loyal and great family pets. Please rescue you want regret saving one of these amazing dogs.
Great point Randy! Thank you for posting this to remind people. There are Doberman rescues all over the place and if you look you might be surprised. They are a lot of times really close to people and they don't even know it. Worth a visit! Might fall in love with your next family member!
Randy I’ve contacted the rescue center in Virginia and they willnot allow you to adopt a rescue Doberman if you have children under 7. Bummer as my wife and I were really excited to rescue.
Great point , ALL of my Dobes in the last 20+years have been rescued or rehomed,yes I've had one or two that were a wee bit more work than the rest but nothing that outweighs giving them a forever home when some had had 4 or 5 owners.
My husband and I have tried to find Doberman rescues, but cannot in Virginia. Any suggestions?
@@Koko12211 if you go to the Doberman Pinscher Club of America website they have a list of reputable rescues across the country.
I forgot to mention, thank you so much for educating people on Dobermans! It is a misunderstood breed!!!
I am so interested in getting a pair for my wife for Christmas.. You really shined a light on this breed.
Your creativity is getting better and better lol loved the intro
We had a Doberman when I was a little pup. Will. The only “danger” he presented was to running children. If you ran in the yard you WERE getting tackled and licked till he was ready to let ya up again. Oh and to that random dude that tried to pick one of us up from the other side of the fence. Will went ballistic, literally, over the fence he had never jumped once before. Ol dude probably never ran so fast in his life, I’d say he was saved by the fact Will didn’t want to leave sight of his kids.
That’s amazing
Thank you so much for this video! My family is so bias towards dog stereotypes and freak case scenarios they’ve heard where a dog has attacked its owner(none of them were dobermans, btw). I love dobermans and this information gives me a renewed sense of confidence that I’m choosing a dog of high moral character and indescribable loyalty.
Jun 3rd we will be receiving our red and rust girl Ziva. We have 5 kids and we are excited. I have watched all your videos and trying to soak up as much info as possible. My wife was nervous when I always said I wanted a Doberman. Since having her and our kids watching your videos they have completely changed the way they feel about the breed. Whole family is excited now and this dog will be very loved. Thank you
I currently live in China. I've lived here for a few years now. Pets here are becoming extremely popular and I've many friends spending a fortune looking after their cars and dogs. My best buddy in Wuxi, Frank just recently bought a doberman puppy. He will receive her when she's 9 weeks old. I have VPN so I searched CZcams and found your channel. Your videos are an enormous help. Fantastic practical advice. Please find a way to get on a Chinese platform. Great job!
I’m getting a Doberman puppy in 3 days and I’m so excited to teach it everything that I’ve watched from you. I wanna learn from your success and fails from your time with your Doberman and be the best he can be. I love your Doberman too
Congratulations! That's so great that you're getting a pup soon! I'm excited for you. Just hang in there and you'll do great. Those first few months at home can be tough but you'll get through it and your dog will be an AMAZING adult! Thanks for supporting the channel, much appreciated!
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.i just really want help with our puppy....I cant have him deciding where I set, what I eat, what clothes I lay out, etc.. Im the owner, he's the puppy.
BEST dog breed ever! Theyre SO incredibly intelligent, devoted ,thoughtful and intuitive. Just no other breed can compare!
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Hypothyroidism occurred in two of mine by the age of two (autoimmune). It actually made them slightly less energetic. Replacement hormone helped.
All of mine were kleptomaniac(s). Ccd?? They only stole when I was home.
I love your video. It shows a normal and loving family pet - laying around with or on the family when everyone is relaxing. I am very happy that you portray the Dobernan Pinscher accurately.
Had 7 dobermans till now. None of them were agressive. My wife and I adore dobermans and are totally adicted to the breed. Thank you for the great video"s
I'm on my 3rd Doberman in the past 23 years. Never had any issues with them attacking me, except for accessive ear licking, keeping an eye on me at all times, and excessive desire for belly rubs. It's a Doberman thing that every owner can relate to. Best Dog's I've ever owned, and hope to have by my side until the day I cross the Rainbow Bridge to be united with all of my past Doberman's.❤️
I was currently looking at the adoption list from my local rescue and saw a 7 year old female doberman and although I assumed it was bs... I still wanted to make sure it was indeed a myth. Thanks for your very insightful video.
Nope...had 8 Dobermans in my life. Not one turned on us. Best dogs ever from my experience.
I was a fan before but after seeing your Shrute Farms shirt i am now a mega fan! Great video and thanks for the information!
I have never heard of this myth! Interesting. When I saw the title of your video I knew you HAD to be disproving this!! We all know Dobes are amazingly loyal!! ❤️😊
Haha you've got me figured out! :-)
I’ve had 4 Doberman in my lifetime. Over 20 puppies 3 litters. Never has a Doberman turned on me. My red Doberman needed an extra year or two to mature. We had a couple male dominance issues but they are the most caring dog you will ever want. You just need 3 years for them to mature. After that you have a soldier
My husband just brought home a European Doberman puppy. I’m not scared of him now but, I fear what he will become. I’ve been bitten by dogs several times and have a huge fear of dogs (especially black dogs...I know it’s silly). I’m binge watching your videos hoping to ease my anxiety. I must say, your intro video made me smile a bit. I could see the dog was just wanting love. That helped me a bit. I just hope that I can learn enough to train him well before he grows up.
Love the amount of research you put into your videos
Hello John you are a go to person for care of these breeds. Thank you and I am sure most viewers agree , you do a great 👍🏻 research and advice! I learn a lot esp the myths of them. Thank you and excellent video too 👍🏻🥰
How do dogs tell time? Growing up the Doberman we had would be sitting at the door when each one of us came home from school. In grammar school, school was dismissed the same time everyday. I thought the dog timming was triggered by mother unlocking the door about 20 minutes before we were due home. But I was home sick and 15 minutes before my brothers were due home, and without my mother moving towards the door, the Doberman came out sat in front of the door and just stared at the door. My mother said if I was in school, the Doberman would have went back to her spot and reappeared in front of door 15 minutes before I was due home. I was sick again the next day and I tried to pickup on what could have triggered her timing but I couldn't. No obvious sounds, not the sun level because she stayed under the couch until it was time. She just knew when each of us was due home.
Stephen Johnson I read recently they use smell. As the smell of you decreases over time, they can use this to know when you are due back. Seems possible to me.
When I was a kid we had a dog (half Great Dane, half St Bernard (HUGE dog)) that would come in and wake me for school in the morning, and at the appropriate time too. Just lick my face til I got up, then go lay down and sleep. I was always fascinated by the internal clock that told him it was time for me to get up.
I had an 8 and half stone Doberman until he died age 13 , he was a gentle giant and very friendly to people .he was also by a long way the smartest dog we ever had .
Hi, 🙋🏼♀️ I'm Di. It's great to hear ur enthusiasm, how positive u are with Dobermans. It took awhile b4 I could see this screen from my tears.
I appreciate ur work on, You Tube & feel blessed to watch and listen. I had 1 of the hardest decisions. Choice was mine. 🤦🏼♀️ (not yet 10yrs.) Amadeus needed to be put down. (Spleen / Tumor) it's been yrs. & still I ball like a baby. Miss him so very much! My shadow, protecter, best friend, etc. I studied 20+ yrs. b4 I truly knew Doberman Pinscher was for me. 0MG! Sorry, to go on & on.
** I'm throwing my 2¢...ur way. "Myths"? I've heard more than once, even by Vets, the reason they *Turn 0n You*, is if/when their ears aren't correctly done. With time, (as I understand) it wears on them. It's a Nerve, (or group) that irritates as they grow older.
Attacks? On-going relevance of irritation, and no stopping it. Swelling occurs!
Wanted to share this... Love what u do. Arlow, spittin' image of Sir Christian Amadeus.
** Oh, my boyfriend took my phone away. Crying, Laughing, Talking to ur pup & ur son. He told me, "You've lost ur mind! "
My reply, "it's only a Myth! " 🤷🏼♀️
Just wanted to say THANK YOU for the videos.... while you tailor the information to Dobermans....I find it practical and informative with my American Bulldog. I appreciate your investment into the large protective dig breeds.
Keep up the great work!
I was raised with Dobermans and I always found them to be extremely gentle and loving. One time my father gave one away to a friend and the dog turned on the new owner for no apparent reason. My father realized that they do best with one owner. Thoughts?
The 1st Dobie that shared my life was "Flake" ... I met him one night when my GF asked me to come over after my shift at the bar. As was customary, she didn't bother to make sure the door was unlocked and I had to go up on the backyard deck and hope the dining room window was unlocked. When I had one leg in. I heard growling ..... and standing there in the middle of the room was a giant doberman. I had experience training guard dogs in a caretaker's job thru high school and college and I was the only employee other than the owner who could handle the dogs when inside their kennel of chained on long leash. Being familiar with "pack behavior" I responded be sternly saying "Shut Up and lay down" which it did. Went into her room and found out that the dog had just run in the house when they were carrying in bags from shopping, and the dog ran in and they went into their rooms and closed the doors.
I went out and met the dog, fed it some leftovers, gave a few commands ... the dog was obviously purebred and trained to "show" commands. Later was told that it was tied to a tree along the highway bordering a day camp. The cropping was show quality, beautiful red dobie ... the dog responded well to commands, .... this was a dog that someone had invested a lot of time and money in. The problem was, this dog weighed in at 128 pounds ... well above the male standard. The dog had no body fat and could have been used as a physiology lesson in a veternarian school. We canvassed local breeders, veternarians and the common comment was "the owner" found he could not be showed at that size and weight.
I lived on a houseboat at the time and the dog took to waterfront life where we have a 2 acre space fenced in for him to roam, chase seagulls, bark at boars and even catch crabs". He loved visiting the neighbors each morning and jumping on new boats pulling into the dock ... their owners, not so much. He got his name after jumping on to a new arrival who had apparently pulled in the night before and were still partying .... the dog ran into the cabin sniffing all around and then sneezing at the cofee table where the occupants had lift a few lines of illegal substance ... spaying it all over. Since then the dog was called "Flake".
We had several pure breads after that, the breeders became friends and retained the right to enter them in shows where they did very well. After that we met a woman involved in Domerman rescue group and took 7 or 8 of those. Last pairing was a red Dobie and Brown Lab, the latter of which had severe abuse issues. But getting to the topic at hand, having had Dobies with histories from pampered show dogs to abused rescues and feral street dogs, I have not found any "bad dogs". Even the most abused Dobie / mixed breeds were strong minded and recovered from the abuse. We live on a 3.5 acre property where the previous owner bred standard poodles for Westminster and there are several kennels left from that time. As I have trained other dogs for people get to compare with other breeds and Dobies are easy ... Huskies are the hardest I have experienced. One of the tings we have had success with is training dogs to lose their "prey instincts" with small animals.
I think the problem with "dogs that turn" is owner culture.... when I was growing up, the German Shepherd was the "badass" dog... it had a high bite rate and I had two friends whose family members were attacked, one while driving. Later that reputation went to The Doberman, again movies had a part here, and all of a sudden it was Dobies with the growing bike rate .... Those folks that needed the hot car, a gun, a badass dog whatever to compensate for their own perceived weaknesses took advantage of the breed's natural instinctive traits and raised them to be "badass dogs". Later, Akitas and Rotties got the attention of these folks and later the Pit Bull. As that took place, the number of bad Dobies has plummeted.
I have found the Doberman breed to be among the smartest and loving. Never seen a breed that overall is so good with toddlers and cats. Though our property is fenced, tree falls and frontage areas where zoning laws prohibit fences taller than 4 feet, they could easily escape but they don't roam .... they don't like to be away from family. We dog sit for friends and family and never had any dominance issues either way. Only issues we have is that we sometimes have as many as 35 deer on the property and the dogs, all breeds love to chase them. It appears to be play behavior but deer suffer from lactic acid build up and sometimes they will fall paralyzed to the ground. The chase being over, they just sit nearby and watch them or come and let us know. As we have only done rescues the last 20 years or so, our only problem is that rescue groups, even doberman.rescueme.org have so few dogs available. I was 20 when I met Flake and this is the 1st time in 45 years that we haven't had a Dobie living with us ... we just took in a Husky / Shephard Mix last November . We have eliminated her prey instincts with cats but she's still young and dumb playful that a whack with a paw can tests the cats patience. Limited success with "come" command and tendency to "go on walk about" if she finds an escape route or slips the leash remain a challenge ... a problem much more easily dealt with when we had a Dobie around.
My wife and I love your channel!! Soooo much great information especially for first time Doberman parents. I totally agree with you about how movies give the dog a fearful reputation. Our Dobie is sooo loving and playful. Very very curious about EVERYTHING. I noticed how you posted your Dobies ears, is there a tutorial you have for it? It’s so much cleaner and looks sturdy. Any info would be great. Keep up the awesome work!!
😆 that intro and outro! I never heard of this myth before John, awesome video. It's really funny how myths form, people are crazy. Arlo is getting so big! He looks great. 👏👌
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed it. Haha. Yeah it's a crazy myth but it's been around a long time.
@@DobermanPlanet I did as always. Haha. Your content is unique, informative and entertaining! Keep up the good work 👍
My veterinarian that has cropped all my Dobie's ears, told me that in his career, the worst dog bite he has ever received was, believe it or not, was from a 15" beagle.
I’m decease
Docking tails and cropping ears is cruel and unnecessary and thankfully will be illegal in the not too distant future.
@@rijobaabojir2779 ... opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and some smell worse than others. I do like cropped ears and docked tails, just for conformation to the breed. If I wanted a dog that looks like a Black & Tan Coonhound... I would have, breed, and raise Black & Tan Coonhounds.
@@rijobaabojir2779 it's not if you are attacked or your dog is attacked its ears or tail won't be hurt Louis doberman did this because the dog was to bred to protect so it's not unless done for cruel reasons
@@Noname-rn4gl I didn't realize that Dobermans being injured in attacks was such a big problem today.
Love your videos. This myth exists here too (Belgium/Europe). I always thought it was a local myth, because Dobermanns aren't really a big breed here (because of the bad reputation). We've already taken in a couple of rescues, some with a difficult past, but all of them are great pets, not even a little bit agressive.
I am glad you answered this question. I've been hearing this myth as a kid.
I’ve spent 4 hours so far since I woke up today watching all of your videos cause I’m getting a doberman soon. Your videos are really helpful! Your the coolest guy on CZcams👍🏻
Your education and understanding of the breed before you acquire a Doberman will pay you huge benefits.
The beginning fight scene:
What a sweet little puppy, lol
This is just such a great video.
I have had two Dobermanns, one from a pup and another rescued at 15 months (both living together). They were the best dogs I could ever hope for with a growing family and many children visiting. They love to be included in whatever activity is going on and were great 'buddies' to have around. I never experienced a viscous side although they are very protective and will stand between you (or other family member) and what they perceive to be a danger. Loyal to a fault every step of the way. Sadly, they don't live long enough. They tend to be the most misunderstood breed and this is such a shame. There are other lovely dog breeds out there but for me it's Dobermanns every time
Getting a dobie end of summer! All your videos have been so helpful!
Outstanding video! Great and valuable information. Thanks John
I’ve had 4 dogs in my life and I must say I’ve never been so in love before until my 2 Doberman girls came into my life. I strangely cry (I’m 49yrs old..lol) on their birthdays. I want them to live forever. Am I the only one who feels this way?
niceass2221 I understand that and thankfully she is still here. Lol...being a bully means she must still feel strong. Perfect. Thank you for sharing that.
I lost my sweet boy when he was 13 in 2014 and I miss him still.
Never my friend ! I miss my big boy everyday always ( 5 yrs.) .
I have owned four Doberman's and NEVER had any issues!
This is a fantastic idea for a video!! I think i can safely say from all of us dog lovers, thanks for making this video.
I remember hearing that BS rumor when I was a kid growing up (48 now) and I hated it! My grandparents and parents raised and trained German Shepards, and a few other dogs that we saved from the pound. We had heard this rumor so decided to research it. My dad had a friend that raised and bred dobies so we talked and learned from him. He got so angry and frustrated when we told him why we were asking. It is a silly rumor, when you really think about it!! Lol and to be honest, I was afraid of them after I'd heard the bologna. But, after learning what great dogs they were we adopted a few over the years. We also tried our best to dispell that nasty rumor, but people believe what they want, unless you can prove them wrong.
It was great to watch people freak and panic when we'd bring out one of our Dobie s, then they'd go over and lick them to death. 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Thanks again for the great video and positive information on a fantastic breed of dog!!!
I think videos like this R GREATLY NEEDED, especially from someone who's a doberman parent and someone who sounds, is , so knowledgeable and backs it with facts. I myself do not have a doberman, not from fear, I just honestly dont want to pay the cost 4 one. I know I could adopt/rescue but right now that's not an option. I have a Senior dog who is not dog friendly, she does great with puppies, so I dont want to adopt a dog and it not work out and then have to rehome. I'm all 4 adopting , and I probably will 1 day, but I want to be sure it's the best situation 4 my baby and a new pup I'm bringing in. I have brought home 2 pups with my current 1 and she did great , she babied the pup and accepted them right away. Kiwi is 11 and I wish she would live forever but I know I'm lucky if I get 15-16 years with her. THANK YOU 4 MAKING VIDEOS LIKE THIS, I know that alot of dogs have been adopted or bought and probably got great homes because u made them comfortable about this breed.
I have Doberman lab and she has a lot of the Doberman features and personality and I can say the bond I have with her is truly nothing like any other bond I’ve ever had. She is the smartest and most loyal dog I’ve ever had!
Been saving for me to get my Robbie!! I can’t wait 😊
I hope you end up with a Dobie one day soon! They're such great dogs!
I've ALWAYS heard that myth,I never really believed it,great information my man...
I've had five Dobies growing up. They were all both highly intelligent, and the biggest sweethearts.
Can we get a video about how to pick a human puppy for our life style, how/what to feed human puppies, and how to train human puppies.
Great video🙂
You are a gold mine of info on doberman. thanks 🙏
I want to thank you so very much for your videos and information. Our current canine family member is reaching her last couple of years and we are waiting for her to pass to bring a new member home. We've settled on a European Dobie.
Thanks again. Much love to you and your babies.
Hi John! I was reading off some forums, and I’ve heard that it is very hard to find a breeder that has not checked for health issues in the puppies. Is this true?
Most breeders in the U.S. anyway have checked for genetic health issues in the parents but usually not the puppies. But you can get a pretty good idea of what to expect in the puppy if you know the DNA health results of the parents. You've probably already seen it but check out my DNA health testing video... might be helpful for you: www.dobermanplanet.com/dna-health-testing/
*AKC registered breeders in good standing. Back yard and puppy mill breeders exist
Having had 2 Dobermans i’ve never had more lovable and caring dogs.
But on a sidenote based on this discussion can’t but help think about the James Garner movie “ They only kill their masters”
Lol
Great Movie. Tells the truth even to those that doubted the Doberman. I'm on my third European Doberman Male. Trust all three more than any human I ever met.
That plot with your reactions was so funny
Keep it up man!!!
My alltime favorite dog once lifted from the hallway passed through the "great room" and landed in my lap as I sat reading in a chair in the kitchen bay window. Found myself sitting on the floor in a pile of splinters, holding my dog. Pier 1 peacock chairs can be pretty and comfortable but not that sturdy.
Decades later I still miss that dog. And three of his pups.
I’ve had people try to tell me the brain thing and even after I explained it to him, he told me I was wrong.... my Dobie has helped me through some dark times over the last decade. He’s a baby loving, daddy’s boy, Blue. He sleeps on a pillow above my head...it used to be my pillow, lol. He is never more than 6 feet away from me and he gets very upset if he can’t get to me because a door was closed all the way. He’s also a big chicken when it comes to thunder and gets bossed around by my wife’s female Yorkie.
Simple solution to prevent your dog from “turning on you”:
1) Consistent Rules
2) Consistent Boundaries
3) Consistent Limitations
4) Frequent viewing of Cesar Milan instruction videos
Love your videos, man! Keep them coming!
I just ran bumped into your channel as I was looking up Dobermans! Im so glad I did!! I always admired how regal and beautiful the Doberman is! My first Doberman I received as a gift to my 12 year old daughter in 2008. Wonderful female dog. I trained (of course I had to learn as they are stubborn). I highly socialized her and she was an amazing companion! Loved children & other dogs! I love all dogs however there was something different about Dobermans which was their loyalty and much more. We got another doberman when she was 2 1/2 years old (a male). Super fun, loyal, smart etc Wow! We lost our female when she was 9 years old from Cardiomyapathy. We just lost Maximus 1 week before Christmas. It has been very hard for us as now we have no dogs. He died of a seizure. He was super healthy and he was also 9! I wish they lived longer!!! One question I had was I was debating on getting another Doberman however Maximus was trained and highly socialized as well as our female Sadie but at 3 years old he did not like children. Now I have grandkids and I know if you get as a puppy it gets used to the children. My children were grown up when we got these 2 dogs. However the female loved the grandkids and max never did. I know this is long but if I get a puppy now and it gets used to my 3 grandkids and then lets say some grandkids come later and by then the dog is older Im afraid this will happen again as we always had to crate max or put in our bedroom or outside when grandkids came. That is what is keeping me from getting anothe one. Do you have any tips or suggestions?
I love how he acts like he’s getting attacked haha that’s halarious
I love your videos I just got a doberman yesterday could you make one how to train your dogs.
Congratulations! You got one of the best dog breeds. I have had them most of my life. They are all very different. Give them lots of time and attention. They are smart and sensitive. I would recommend not giving them a lot of correction in their training. They are smart enough to understand what to do. They need lots of physical and mental stimulation. Keep them confident and active and you will have a best friend for life.
Lord bless
Recommend you to watch Tom Davis and Robert cabral CZcams videos (dog trainers I like)
Bill Wyatt Have fun with your dog while teaching and only positive reinforcement. You will have lots of fun with your dog that way and create an incredible bond.
@@suzannethepatriot8049 thank you so much.
i once told my mum that when i’m old enough and if i get enough money i’d buy a Doberman. My mum tried to discourage me by saying they were dangerous. Your videos have informed me about this wonderful breed. Thank you
Always learn new things from Doberman Planet even though I've been an owner of this breed for a long time!