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“Yo momma has a relatively masculine temperament” - Jordan Peterson
Underrated comment 😂
Especially after Mikaela kinda bad mouthed nuroticism of his degree in accidental extroversion 😂
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
its the first time I learned that when men are under stress they release a bonding chemical. Very interesting
Key thing is that the stressor is not the thing we men bond to. We bond with the others that are around us as we overcome the stressor together. It’s a team building kind of bond that helps facilitate increased teamwork.
@@Randomnez117 Yeah bro! Let's go! Whatever it is let kicks its ass! It gets my adrenalin going and that is an exhilarating feeling! I love it! 👊
@@Randomnez117 Makes so much sense when you put it that way. Same reason why the shared trauma makes best friends out of platoon members.
We thought we were using our Common Sense
and developing a sense of humour,
but it was scents all along.
Guys who fought alongside each other in war often call each other brothers.
The fact that stress releases a bonding chemical for men explains why soldiers are forever bonded to their "brothers in arms." My husband's lifelong friends are the ones he met in the army, and they still try to get together every year though they all live in different places throughout the country.
I feel like this can also kind if explain why so many strong bonds are formed between coworkers. Beyond just spending lots of time around them
Jp "Im more neurotic"
Mikaila "Neurotic men are the worst!"
Awkward silence, then laughter.
@sharp7j thanks. I was trying to understand the in-joke they were all laughing at but your comment explains it.
"Women are more likely to get upset."
"Y'know what-...."
“…So there girlies, take that…” 🤣
Nobody expected the roast. Not even the roaster.
It was such a roast she didn't dare take it outa the OVEN!!!
@ 2:58
@@novitrix9671what was the roast i dont get it
@@pnarerol1985 it's the loaded subject, premise, set up stifling initiation of the roast then the denial of follow through.
The point is the implications of what she would/was about to say, if you lack imagination I won't bird feed it to you.
@@novitrix9671 dude i get that, i just dont get what they were laughing at exactly
@@pnarerol1985 ??? That's exactly what they were laughing at. The joke landed into your lap and you shoved it away.
Jordan's lexical reputation was on the line when Tammy challenged his "articulable" claim. Glad he was able to emerge victorious on that one given his encyclopedic-level vocabulary. Lol
I like how he rsponded. He was like "I might be wrong".
Lol
I’ve been using articulable suspicion for the standard for a “Terry stop” for some time. Glad to see it here. Auto fill often doesn’t recognize it.
Peterson never misses a chance to point out Tammy’s “low agreeableness”.
@@2001bopdog gnawing on its favorite bone!
As a woman with a more masculine temperament, I experienced this first hand throughout my life being lower in agreeableness. I’ve always gravitated towards men who are not hypermasculine in a sense, especially since I’m not hyperfeminine. This is why I’ve struggled like Mikhaila in befriending most girls growing up. My boyfriend is pretty neurotic and empathic like me, but he is much more agreeable than me, which makes him seriously hate any sort of confrontation. I love how safe he makes me feel and he doesn’t start fights just for the sake of starting them. We talk things through and move on. He is a bit neurotic like me where we are over-thinkers, so I think two neurotic people can be with each other, but both needs to reassure the other and be strong for them like my boyfriend does for me and eases my burdens. Unlike my previous relationships, where they did not make me feel safe or were able to be present with me when I was upset. I’m very lucky :)
I too believe this to be the case. I think that two neurotic types can be together and have a healthy and thriving relationship (with all the potential challenges that come along with being highly neurotic) provided that they are willing to work on themselves and their lives, and be there for each other.
So lucky he’s still your boyfriend though right? Not husband…?
@@justsomethingtothinkabout8515 we haven’t even been dating a year yet lol we plan on getting married
Maybe you feel safe around a effeminate, neurotic, non confrontational man....but how do you feel protected and secure?
@@stevendouglas3781 I dated a lawyer who loved to pick fights with me and criticize literally everything I did. Sometimes it was funny and playful, but usually annoying and abusive. Lighthearted banter? sure... Actual fighting and bickering? Pass. I’ve grown and I like my peace. Fighting isn’t fun with your SO. I save that for my dysfunctional family
Jp always got those smooth suits.
He’s got a couple of shockers tbh
@@SpeedfreakUK I watched him live and he walked out in what looked like a suit covered in graffiti. We all kinda paused, like, “What?
You know how women are generally more into clothing than men?
You know how in this very clip they point out he's more feminine in some ways than Tammy?
@@SpeedfreakUK Like that two-tone suit, gray and maroon? Looked like something Harvey Two-Face would wear.
@@michaelmicek Sure, but the Peterson couple are clearly intentionally matching colors. They both got drip.
It's why I am a happy single male - the women in my family were so neurotic, destructive and toxic that I had no desire to pair with any woman.
Hope you get a new chance on that front man 🤍🤍
The world where single motherhood is normal raises unhappy children.
Articulable ✅
I admire the way you paint it out for them 😂
This was quite out of character for a JBP podcast, as he appeared so charmingly and intimately with his bride and daughter. It was wonderfully revealing of the incomparable Dr. Peterson in an unguarded conversation with two of the most consequential women in his life. Very heartwarming! I confess that I had no idea what the three of them were technically discussing, but I really enjoyed their familial interaction. At the conclusion I felt that I knew him profoundly better from a human point of view, than as just the towering intellectual personality he is where we normally encounter him. Its impossible not to like and admire Dr. Peterson in both roles, father and husband as well as brilliant philosopher and world renowned celebrity.
Chat gpt
Complete misogyny 😂 How can people think he hates women when you see this man with his adoring and living wife and daughter?
@@jayclark8284well, for starters, people that think he hates women are not thinking at all
@@CirrowProductionsare you a teenager who writes papers with it?
Well said. JBP in real life is actually quite intimidating. His stature is taller than any camera truly captures. His shoulders are broad though again in front of the camera he looks very approachable and puny but that is not the case. He is taller and broader in shoulder than one would expect. So not only is he a towering intellectual personality but a physical one with a graceful humility.
When is Jordan going to seriously make me angry? At this point, he has yet to successfully articulate doing this! ❤ this channel as I am enjoying everything I am learning. Many thanks. 🤗
Nothing but respect and high regard for a family to be so honest and open with all of us. They give so much with the obvious purpose to make us better people. Hope they receive their just due, and I’ll continue to cheer for their success.
Got a loki Marvel ad while watching this😂😂😂
They have #blackwidow in their description. That’s likely why.
Y'all are hoots! Very intelligent hoots, which makes the conversation so incredibly enjoyable, and easy to understand.
Thank you for sharing with us! I learned something new!
It’s great that as a family they get along so well
I think the public has always loved strong female leads, even over the top badasses. Ripley in Alien is a major icon, introduced over 40 years ago. Sarah Connor, the cyborg defeating mother in the Terminator series. Woke movies, on the other hand, are all about putting 'the patriarchy' in its place, preaching to the audience from their imaginary moral high ground, and they abandoned the hero's journey. In Woke Hollywood, women are powerful badasses because they're women, not because they earned it or faced brutal hardship, challenging them to step up. Audiences just want an entertaining storyline basically. The original Star Wars was a simplistic fairy tale but hugely successful because it embraced the hero's journey. Luke journeyed from innocent farm-boy to Jedi Knight, defeating evil! Had he been a woman, I think the series would have been just as successful, even in the 1970s.
No. Sword fighting? No. Why? Go ask a man why. Female Luke does not sword fight or go galloping off to fight a lot of men for some holographic hussy. Where's the male motivation to save her? PLEASE GOD SAVE MEH.
I agree!! And , as an 80's baby, Sarah Connor still rocks!!
@@andreiadetavora8471 Well, the T1/T2 Sarah, not the one she became in the woke sequals...
I feel that Sarah is such a popular character, because she went on the heroes journey, but it has a different edge, because she's a woman.
Love the Peterson family.
Subject matter aside, I enjoy the videos I seem to enjoy the most are the ones where some combination of your family are together. So pleased that Mrs Peterson is a part of it. I like to see the dynamic between people in a couple. It tells you things you can't see when just observing one person.
Thanks for sharing. Heartwarming.
Very interesting interaction. More honest then most! Hearty discussion. Leading, submission, compassion and great laughter! We all have our short comings and these folks are ready to bring others up to speed as well!
My husband and I have our neuroticism scores contrary to our sex as well, so this is encouraging.
These conversations are a lot different than the ones I have with my folks. This is good stuff.
The three of them are so hilarious
I love, love, love all of you all together!!!
That genuine laugh of Mikaela cracked me up 😂 classic!
Love you all!!!!!!!!! So excited to see JP in May!!!!
Great clip. I just ordered and filled out the Understand Myself assessment. Quite accurate and makes me laugh sometimes, the good laugh that always accompanies truth.
Okay, I officially love listening to the Peterson's jam together. What a great balance of minds and personalities. So many wonderful dinner table convos must go unheard...
We’re here to learn as always sir ✅
I wish my family could have a conversation like this. My aim is to be able to have conversations like this with my kids. Thanks Jordan, you’re the man.
If you can only take it once, how on earth would you know how consistent the traits are overtime? And if the scores aren’t consistent over time, then why did the scores matter to an individual at all?
The most difficult part about that if you are high in both neuroticism and extroversion, assertiveness at the same time. This is really hard thing to manage.
Nice to see JP so chillaxed. It chillaxed me, just as it stresses me when he's stressed.
4:00 - I can only speak as a man but this makes me think about the male fantasy of rescuing a damsel in distress. I'm a pretty big romantic and the idea of proving to a woman that I want her and only her, and that I will do everything I can to keep her safe, happy, and laughing was the strongest motivation I ever had as a man.
Whenever she would ask me to lift something heavy, hold her hand or wrap my arm around her, or when she wanted to be comforted after a tough day... Those are the moments I remember. There's a deep aching need for men to be needed by their woman.
Ladies and gentlemen the human thesaurus Jordan Peterson.
I love JP's nature when podcasting with his family. Beautiful contrast to him dominating in debates. Thanks Petersons for teaching and inspiring so many others
Articulable. I just learned something too! Love words.
I’ve done many tests many times and always score 0% on neuroticism, even when relatively negative when things have gone bad. Why is it volatile for some people and not others?
True, this is why min. 3.00, men are hunters. They have more risk tolerance.
What's a link to the test please?
Google Big Five or OCEAN.
Good question
- It’s linked in the info under the video. (‘Understand myself’)
Three very attractive and beautiful creatures ❤
I took the personality test a few years ago and I’m thinking I should take it again. I’m still wildly neurotic, but I had undiagnosed bipolar disorder and was deeply in the midst of PPD when I took it.
What instrument did they use to assess the neuroticism? Are the scores standard scores, T-scores, percentiles? Just curious
I feel I understand my parents' relationship a little bit more after watching this. Thanks as always!
I consistently score in the upper 90% with Neuroticism. It definitely affects me deeply. The people that I casually interact with believe that I'm a peppy extrovert. Even family members like my grandmother believe this to the point of arguing with me. They didn't see my chronicle depression growing up. I have just learned to visually compensate for myself on the surface in a convincing way. It takes so much energy. I also score under 5% in Extraversion.
I'm a very authentic person, but only when I believe that it is acceptable or productive to be so. Which, as you can imagine, is only worth letting loose at the occasional funeral.
Did his test get updated? I don't recall seeing "withdrawal" or "volatility" when I took it.
Withdrawal and volatilty are subset under the neuroticism category.
Women are encouraged to be emotional, and to put undue meaning and purpose onto their animalistic instinctive impulses (emotions). While doing so can bring about lots of meaningful moments, it also introduces massive amounts of chaos since emotions are reactions to the world, as opposed to cold logic which is something you actively apply to the world.
So stress is a catalyst for bonding in men. What is the connection, if any, between bonding and learning? When we teach combat skills we intentionally increase the stress in the training regimen as the training I g syllabus progresses. This helps imprint the training to make it more of a condition ed response. In a deadly force encounter adrenaline diminished our ability to formulate responses so we need to have a conditioned response to fall back on lest we dither away the last few seconds of our lives.
At least, that's the way it's been explained to me.
Brasil por aqui 🙌aprendendo com o melhor 🙏
Came for help and got laughed at for being a neurotic male. 99/100. Fun times!
I think they laughed bc she realized in that moment that jp generally is neurotic asf 😄
Bonding is essential especially for young people. Which is very difficult in nowadays where everyone wants to be an individual. Unfortunately/ fortunately we humans are pack animals that do best in small packs of 50 to 200 people
My husband and I are also flipped when it comes to agreeableness and neuroticism (he also has dealt with depression.) It makes me wonder to what extent sexuality has to do with searching for temperament differences in addition to basic physical attraction, seeing as sexuality is being understood more everyday as something fluid rather than constant
It is binary. Don't confuse the manifestation of human attributes per sex for the sexual nature itself
3:05 Family Lore alert 🚨
Smart family
Re: feminine men and masculine women:
You must look into the 4 types of energy by Carol Tuttle. She’s a bit progressive but the main current of her program is enlightening. She takes the 4 energies (wind, water, fire, earth) and talks about how every person is dominant in one of them, and it shows in not only temperament, but on their faces and many other aspects of their looks, movement, and habits. I could have guessed that Tammy was on the more masculine side because I know she’s a type 3 (fire), and that you were on the more feminine side because you’re a type 2 (water), and that’s how they usually roll, regardless of gender. I first got into the program because different colors look and feel better on different types of people, and knowing all that helped me feel better inside and out. When I wear the wrong colors, my skin literally hurts because I’m extremely sensitive to energy.
Just a fun fact, 1 (wind) and 4 (earth) are opposites, as are 2 and 3, and opposites almost always end up marrying each other. So I guessed Tammy was a type 3 before I even laid eyes on her because you are so obviously a type 2! Just like me 😊
I love your courage and kindness. Thank you for showing us such a great example of a power couple.
The ending speaks volumes.
My wife and I have gone through some difficulty over the last year. It was due to external influences, sewer gases. She had never seen me so neurotic nor I her. I have to say I agree that two neurotic people don't mix well.
Great piece of discussion, SO much happening in there to give further thought to. 🙏🏻✨
I got a 86 it was not a surprise.
Funny, I just revisited my results on my podcast “You’re probably right” with MCM, for the second time I wish I could do it more than once
When we feel the negative or the positive and see the 2, we the third forget it is constant as well..3 not 2..so 3 isnt a positive/negative... 3 is cardinal/fixed/mutable (beginning middle end etc) ...will mind cardinal/brain structure fixed/ soul mutable.😊 changes everything fundamentally. Rpms up 🙂 rpms down😢.
Thanks for another video. 🙏🧠❤🙏
Articulable: able to speak clearly (I learned too❤)
... articulate
she showed her hand with her bias
I admire your family!😀
it is very interesting discussion particularly that neuroticism is not necessarily an enduring personality trait but tied to depression...never heard that before, but it makes sense. It kind of flies in the face as it being part of the OCEAN model no?
Regarding females being more threat sensitive....this explains why they are often accused of being petty and having cat fights, but it is important to know this is not a weakness, as it is usually portrayed, it is for an underlying biological reason.
My father was neurotic and it was not fun...he was very sensitive to tone of voice, perceived rejection and criticism, and it becomes a vicious circle...angry outbursts cause rejection. He said he had anxiety, but I always thought he must be depressed too. I think this may be mixed up with NPD or BPD as well. As someone who also has depression, anxiety and neurotic tendencies, we did not mix well to put it mildly. A neurotic person needs to be with a stable person...100%.
Is there a link to the test she was talking about?
Yes, click on the "Show More" link and go to the "Understanding Myself" item.
If necessary, preemptively forgive me for saying that this whole conversation was totally phucking adorable. 😍
Terrible marketing? I think she exposed the racket. Her first thought was not about the integrity of the test - and she couldn’t pretend otherwise.
What test did they take?
I'm 1st percentile in neuroticism, and it makes being with most women difficult. I've had lots of great relationships that last 1-2 years, but from where I stand on the neuroticism spectrum, most all women make mountains of molehills too often, and as they feel more free over time to share more and more of their tumultuous emotional worldviews, the stress of being required to empathize with it all takes too much joy out of my life. If I ever find a very low neuroticism woman who's fundamentally happy and secure deep down, and is attractive to me in a few other significant ways, I'll have met my match.
Articulable is not a good word to screw up lol that's funny
I grew up without a father, for the most time I had to like look out for my mother, then growing up I was always with my sister and female cousins (although I often go with my male cousins but it's easier to be more open with my female cousins), then in school I often find myself in company of females. Now I see why I'm freaking neurotic as hell, I only realized now if I was with males more, then I would be more chill but I remember all the rants and emotional sharing those females did lol
Is that Agatha, the one that was all alone?
My spouse & I have a similar situation where the expected sex-normal inclinations are flipped. I can’t say I have a particular issue with either sex or any gender, but I’ve had ADHD & cPTSD since childhood, so I rub others the wrong way. Meanwhile, my spouse is highly neurotic & OCD, but just seems to soar.
Where can we take this test, link?
In description, with paywall. Might be worth it if not naturally introspective. May the Lord bless you. Shalom.
i think it is called understand myself
I think the chemical thing might be a natural evolution thing of protecting the woman so you have to engage potential danger which is scary and dangerous and stressful but you're making the woman safe so she bonds better 🤷🏻♂️
I thought they were going to talk about Marvel movies, but all it was just one throw-away line.
Literally no discussion of Marvel movies whatsoever...
He mentioned why they’re incorrect briefly .. not more needs to be said
@@Bangastarch Did he? Where? I must have blinked my ears.
@@atlasfeynman10392:21
@@atlasfeynman1039 2:16-2:24 all the information leading up to that is important .. please also research ..
Your parents look sooooo young! Thought this vid was years old first
Does anyone really think that JP would use ANY word incorrectly???
This whole clip, but especially the end, reminds me of the movie The Squid and the Whale. It's funny to watch a family of intellectuals.
The Doctor and his wife look amazing
What are the psychological tests that they are referring to in this discussion? M seems to be reading scores from them.
Probably the "Big Five" or "Five Factors" personality test -- Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, Neuroticism (OCEAN). JP is very big on the value and accuracy of that test.
I cant tell when McKayla is smiling or sad. Her face nerves are completely dead and dont work anymore. Her lips are totally numb, she used to speak more clearly.
When men are under stress they release a bonding chemical
Yes, to lots of women it's known a "chum"
I like chick flicks but I am good in a fire fight and I have jumped out of perfectly good planes with a parachute.
More, I would like to see more essence of working on natural evolution!
Y'all are so informative and hilarious at the same time 😂 !!! Too much 😊 fun !!!
I scored 99% in neuroticism (I genuinely answered honestly) and 98th percentile in trait openess. I guess it is accurate because I am a song writer and my songs are particularly weird and moody.
Jordan always looks like he's being eaten by the couch
JP is correct, its 'articulable'
Mikhaila is truly beautiful.
There's a lot of surgery though
Yup. A lot
Petersons’ Power Hour🧑🧑🧒
Who are you? Not that which is either depressed or not depressed. Find out.
Yes im def high neuro
I keep meaning to take the damn test but when I'm in a good to neutral mood I don't want to be on the computer.
Question for Dr. Peterson: Is neuroticism more correlated with body size than sex? This is a hypothesis I'd like to see tested. I predict smaller men would have similar levels of neuroticism as the average woman as he would have to be more threat sensitive.
I saw some clip recently saying smaller men are more sociopathy prone on average. Guess why...
If true I'd wonder if it's relative to the average size of the community. I imagine neuroticism might come from losing physical encounters as a child.
@@ShmoeBoe Interesting theory. Do you think you could be able to change that later on?
@@123asdasdasd-jh1iy I believe so. Sports are good for building confidence which is inversely related to neuroticism. I'm not sure if you'd be able to completely do a 180 though, your past would always have some effect on your psyche. It's something to think about for sure.
So what did the Marvel movies get wrong?