I obtained this version of the Dvorak concerto in 1978 on a long-playing 33 rpm quintessence ''critics choices'' (pickwick), because at that moment I noted the date of purchase of this or that disc.quintessence has released at this time some supraphon recordings but also rca and dhm. the records were sold at an economical price....quality of engraving and pressing impeccable.....I still listen to them today.including this record by Morton Gould (the other Gould) which performs Vaughan Williams and Eric coates....a treat...!
I enjoy these videos immensely from a collectors point of view & also historically. It shows that you enjoy making the videos. It's mostly because of your videos here that i was able to expand my box set collecting. When you review these, you do it properly. Take care & be well.
I guess most of us can't understand how they left out great pieces of art like this one once. Almost unbelievable. Nowadays at for example the Belgian Queen Elisabeth Competition it's for sure played not often enough either. I remember Sylvia Huang in 2019 for one
SO glad to hear the name "Qualiton" mentioned in this review. Their imports (Supraphon, Hungaroton, etc.) opened up a new world for me back in the 80s.
Another idea for a video. Composers who wrote a work that overshadowed other great works. With Dvorak it was the Cello Concerto. By the way, another great video. Love the Violin Concerto.
In the 1960s I heard two of the Milstein recordings (with Frühbeck de Burgos and Steinberg) and eventually owned them both on CD along with Chung/Muti and Hahn/Orozco-Estrada. I probably wore out my first copy of Milstein way back when, but I had never heard of the Suk/Ancerl -- I'll have to check it out.
I started with Stern/Ormandy. Stern/Ormandy consoled me the day I got my terrible degree (2:2), Stern/Ormandy KNOWS me! To hear of a reading by Suk/Ancerl.... 😮! 🍻 See you in half an hour!
I have Suk recordings of other music, but have always considered the Milstein/Steinberg/Pittsburgh recording my personal reference. It was originally released in the US on Capitol stereo LP coupled with the Glazounov concerto.
I do wish I had known about this recording earlier. When I bought my first Dvorak Violin Concerto, the ONLY ONE available in my neck of the woods was the Accardo/Davis so that's what I had for so long. Many years later, I "discovered" Suk/Ancerl and it was like storm clouds parting and the sun streaming through. Not that Accardo wasn't good, I still love it -- but Suk is from another planet. I believe the Accardo is from 1980?
Hi Dave. Congrats for your channel and sense of humor. When I was 19 years old (1981), I heard from National Radio of Argentina ( Radio Nacional) an electrifyng version of Dvorak' violin concerto. I could record just the final movement because I couldn't find a blank cassette. This version was live recording because at the end of it there was a burst of aplausses and clearly audibles "bravos " I lost that tape later and I could't be able to find that version. National Radio has records mainly from 50"s or 60's. Do you know who could be the interpreter? Thanks Dave.
I had this recording first on a late 70s Quintessence LP, and immediately made it MY reference. As a 78 rpm nerd I knew Menuhin’s 1930s one, and later on the excellent Vasa Prihoda one. Interestingly Menuhin never re-recorded it. Oistrakh played it (there’s a live one with Ancerl and a 1949 studio one with Kondrashin), but didn’t make it a central staple of his repertory. Stern’s is not really one of his best from that often quite good period of his in the 60s. One thing which could have contributed to its neglect is its reputation among violinists for it being rather awkward technically (mostly the 1st mvt). Obviously that wasn’t going to stop someone like Heifetz, so it’s interesting that he passed on it. For some reason Christian Tetzlaff does make it sound awkward, and rather ugly. Not sure what went wrong on that version.
I actually discovered this concerto (and a whole lot of other music besides) many years ago when I was a child, thanks to some records left behind in India by a family-friend. A lovely performance by Ruggiero Ricci; and coupled with the Tchaikovsky. On Decca/London. Do you know this recording?
There are several versions recorded in the West by Menuhin, Milstein, Martzy, Stern, Gimpel, Ricci, Kulenkampff, Prihoda ... all before Suk-Ancerl. Milstein is especially good. It's is not popular because it is not appealing to majority of listeners even today. IMO Suk/Ancerl becomes reference because the 100% Czech artists and production.
That's right, although some of those early ones were mono or not easily available. Stern Ormandy was an interesting case. On LP it had no coupling other than Dvorak's Romance for Violin and Orchestra, and the concerto at that point was far from popular. It must not have sold well, as I can't remember ever seeing the LP incarnation in the 70s. I agree about the Milstein (he did it three times!).
Dave, I have never gone wrong with your recommendations. You never have to explain. Thank you.
I obtained this version of the Dvorak concerto in 1978 on a long-playing 33 rpm quintessence ''critics choices'' (pickwick), because at that moment I noted the date of purchase of this or that disc.quintessence has released at this time some supraphon recordings but also rca and dhm. the records were sold at an economical price....quality of engraving and pressing impeccable.....I still listen to them today.including this record by Morton Gould (the other Gould) which performs Vaughan Williams and Eric coates....a treat...!
Excellent Dave, thank you!
I enjoy these videos immensely from a collectors point of view & also historically. It shows that you enjoy making the videos. It's mostly because of your videos here that i was able to expand my box set collecting. When you review these, you do it properly. Take care & be well.
I have this Suk/Ancerl performance on CD! Never felt the need to buy another recording after that.
Best wishes from George in UK
I guess most of us can't understand how they left out great pieces of art like this one once. Almost unbelievable. Nowadays at for example the Belgian Queen Elisabeth Competition it's for sure played not often enough either. I remember Sylvia Huang in 2019 for one
SO glad to hear the name "Qualiton" mentioned in this review. Their imports (Supraphon, Hungaroton, etc.) opened up a new world for me back in the 80s.
Another idea for a video. Composers who wrote a work that overshadowed other great works. With Dvorak it was the Cello Concerto. By the way, another great video. Love the Violin Concerto.
In the 1960s I heard two of the Milstein recordings (with Frühbeck de Burgos and Steinberg) and eventually owned them both on CD along with Chung/Muti and Hahn/Orozco-Estrada. I probably wore out my first copy of Milstein way back when, but I had never heard of the Suk/Ancerl -- I'll have to check it out.
Chung/Muti was my first; a fantastic performance.
Had to be this one. I had this for many years coupled with the Romance.
Thank you for review on the Schubert recording In this week on Classics Today. I love it and can't stop listening to it. Great recommendation by Jed.
Stern, Ormandy 1960s was the first widely available to most of us
Yes indeed, my favorite performance......
I started with Stern/Ormandy. Stern/Ormandy consoled me the day I got my terrible degree (2:2), Stern/Ormandy KNOWS me! To hear of a reading by Suk/Ancerl.... 😮! 🍻 See you in half an hour!
Haven’t heard Suk but love the Stern😊
@@healthrisingMECFS-FM-longCOVID I have since heard the Suk, and, it's better!
I have Suk recordings of other music, but have always considered the Milstein/Steinberg/Pittsburgh recording my personal reference. It was originally released in the US on Capitol stereo LP coupled with the Glazounov concerto.
Suk made a beautiful tone and in general most of the Supraphon records I own sound very good, well up to the standards of the big names.
Absolutely!
Excellent choice, dear David 👌
I do wish I had known about this recording earlier. When I bought my first Dvorak Violin Concerto, the ONLY ONE available in my neck of the woods was the Accardo/Davis so that's what I had for so long. Many years later, I "discovered" Suk/Ancerl and it was like storm clouds parting and the sun streaming through. Not that Accardo wasn't good, I still love it -- but Suk is from another planet. I believe the Accardo is from 1980?
That was my first also, coupled with Sibelius.
I had Accardo too. It's very good, but as you say...
There should be a comprehensive Suk box!
Very interesting. Thanks.
Hi Dave. Congrats for your channel and sense of humor. When I was 19 years old (1981), I heard from National Radio of Argentina ( Radio Nacional) an electrifyng version of Dvorak' violin concerto. I could record just the final movement because I couldn't find a blank cassette. This version was live recording because at the end of it there was a burst of aplausses and clearly audibles "bravos " I lost that tape later and I could't be able to find that version. National Radio has records mainly from 50"s or 60's. Do you know who could be the interpreter? Thanks Dave.
National Radio, because of bad politics, almost lost all the information.
Thank you for your kind comments. I'm sorry but I have no idea who the performers might have been.
I had this recording first on a late 70s Quintessence LP, and immediately made it MY reference. As a 78 rpm nerd I knew Menuhin’s 1930s one, and later on the excellent Vasa Prihoda one. Interestingly Menuhin never re-recorded it. Oistrakh played it (there’s a live one with Ancerl and a 1949 studio one with Kondrashin), but didn’t make it a central staple of his repertory. Stern’s is not really one of his best from that often quite good period of his in the 60s. One thing which could have contributed to its neglect is its reputation among violinists for it being rather awkward technically (mostly the 1st mvt). Obviously that wasn’t going to stop someone like Heifetz, so it’s interesting that he passed on it. For some reason Christian Tetzlaff does make it sound awkward, and rather ugly. Not sure what went wrong on that version.
I actually discovered this concerto (and a whole lot of other music besides) many years ago when I was a child, thanks to some records left behind in India by a family-friend. A lovely performance by Ruggiero Ricci; and coupled with the Tchaikovsky. On Decca/London. Do you know this recording?
Yes, I'm mentioned in previously.
I don't have a single recording featuring Josef Suk (concertos, chamber music, solo violin) that isn't worth owning.
There are several versions recorded in the West by Menuhin, Milstein, Martzy, Stern, Gimpel, Ricci, Kulenkampff, Prihoda ... all before Suk-Ancerl. Milstein is especially good. It's is not popular because it is not appealing to majority of listeners even today. IMO Suk/Ancerl becomes reference because the 100% Czech artists and production.
That's right, although some of those early ones were mono or not easily available. Stern Ormandy was an interesting case. On LP it had no coupling other than Dvorak's Romance for Violin and Orchestra, and the concerto at that point was far from popular. It must not have sold well, as I can't remember ever seeing the LP incarnation in the 70s. I agree about the Milstein (he did it three times!).
What do you think of Hahn's recording of this Violin Concerto on her oddly named "Eclipse" CD?
Check out the video.
So what is the rr for the piano concerto?
There isn't one.