Yup, that's the correct way to practice for sure, but the problem is most people are not aware of their mistakes.. That's the hardest part, being able to notice your mistakes on your own.
As an advice, you can see mistakes not in recent drawings, but in images that you had made a year or two years ago, redoing same image or fixing it, will help you notice how you improved and what was your previous mistakes you can see now.
for me the hardest part is not identifying the mistakes, but how to correct them. i see my mistakes fairly easily, especially after time, but i get frustrated because i cant figure out HOW to correct it. its like a puzzle that i cannot solve. a teacher is the best way to learn (beyond repetition and practice), someone who knows the secrets and will help u unlock them, which is kind of what these videos are.
Looking at a drawing in the mirror also helps you identify problems that you wouldn't have seen before. It kind of tricks your brain into looking at it like it's a new image and makes issues really stand out more. If working digitally, you can also flip the canvas horizontally and it does the same thing.
My very first drawing teacher said I had no talent, and everything I accomplished was due to my hard work, which never took place. Only past 20 years I realized what he meant to achieve with that phrase, and how wise he was back then. This man was Albert Einstein.
Wow, everyone just tells you “Keep practicing you’ll get better eventually” but no one tells you how to practice... thanks for this! Incredible useful 👏👏
Me: Make a mistake Analyze the mistake Redraw it then not be satisfied with that version either Redraw it Realize you have failed Jump into a spikey bush.
Wow, so good! I wish I could afford your classes--but I can't. I'm really happy that you post some of the material for free for us poor people. Thanks! I'm learning a lot from you!
Great advice. This can be applied to any skill set. As an animator, I would really like to focus more on my life drawing skills to help with character movement.
Some would say that me stopping drawing at an early age was a mistake and squandering a talent. But I see what you mean, it is a happy accident that I am a near 40 year old who have only hated every job or education I have done, and now will never be able to live and expand in the field I love doing the most: putting my imagination onto paper. Edit. Perhaps the accident is happy for someone else who never had to compete with me?
I wish more new artists would follow your advice of redrawing. You also made a comment about rendering that makes you better at rendering and that's it. I see so many posts of people who make 1 drawing that is an anatomical mess, render the shit out of it, post it for critique and expect praise. When I was younger I would also make a big thing out of every sketch, add detail until it was dead. Often I would use a light board to copy it (with all its flaws). It's not a very good habit. I can understand people want to show off their results and make pretty pictures, that's one reason for drawing after all, but it's sad when it stops you from growth. I found it rather liberating to not see my sketchbook as a place for beautiful, special snowflakes but a place for ugly mistakes, actual studying and understanding things, and a shit ton of terrible, ugly sketches that nobody will ever see. Makes me be able to focus on learning and not so much on showing off what is not worth it anyway.
Knight Brienne that is so true. I see so many. Your comment changed my perspective of drawing things. Thank you so much. My sketchbook is actually filled with rushed drawings, and wayy too much detail on one part of the drawing, and the other part is practically blank.
Thatfangirl32 Thatfangirl32 I know people with sketchbooks that are filled with very carefully done drawings though. It works for them. In the end it's important to have fun :)
There be wisdom in those words! Drawing the basic shapes is quick and easy, and you can do 6-10 form sketches in the time it'd actually take you to finish a drawing and add the details. By focusing on basic shapes, you're basically speeding up your learning by 6 to 10 times xD
This comment was incredibly liberating! I think it'd be good to have an "ugly" sketch book for general learning and a pretty one with what you've learnt
When I was in school, I would sketch a lot on random pieces of paper, assignments etc. And then after I was done with it, would just throw it away. Then I'd get a new piece of paper and start sketching. I also swear at least half the songs I've produced have been lost because I forget to save, crashes, rage quits, etc. But it never really bothers me much. Learning to not overvalue your creations is important. If you created something great, then you can do it again. And if you can't, then being able to consistently make something of that quality is now your goal. That's much better than holding onto that one piece like it's your precious.
You, are amazing. Almost every artist CZcamsr would say, keep drawing the same drawing after. They are basically telling us to draw our mistakes over and over again. You are telling us to redraw it, but telling us to fix our mistakes in the process. I like you. Sub.
This really sums up on mastering any kind of craft that you are on the journey of mastery. You do, observe, and correct. The major problem is that we do, we freak out (depression), and repeat the same mistake. It takes practice to develop that detached view from the end result and really focus on correcting the mistakes and on the process of achieving the result. A great book that has helped me tremendously, and I really mean it, is the book called "Practicing Mind" by Thomas Sterner. Another great book is also "The inner game of tennis" by Timothy Gallwey.
Definitely. A mentor makes the process much quicker. There's some things you can check on your own though. For example, you can check your proportions by scanning the drawing and laying it over the photo in Photoshop. Easy way to see your mistakes.
Satsume What you could also do is that if you aren't sure whether your drawing looks good, you could leave it alone for the rest of the day, and then come back to it the next day. That usually helps me when I'm drawing. I usually am able to get a different perspective on my drawing once I have left it alone for a while.
@@marielohr1947 this tip !! I’ll be doing a spread in my sketchbook thinking it’s pretty accurate but when I look back later in the day, I notice what improvements can be made.
Proko doing the Lord's work. Thanks a lot, man. Your videos have helped me so much, and I've improved faster over the last year or so than I have before.
Just wanted to thank you for these videos! Applying to art school (I know, yikes) really burnt me out, so getting back to the basics is helping me overcome the anxiety I started to associate with drawing!
Great video. Your tip about practice is an excellent one. Simple and powerful, which is what I'm looking for in drawing instruction. It seems I have found a good resource. Thank you.
Excellent. I just started drawing again after 2 years of inactivity and I find your videos very good in terms of base anatomy and shapes. Advancing quickly to start drawing poses and muscles again.
This is the best advice someone could ever give you as an artist, thank you Stan for being honest and allowing me to learn from you, thanks God my mom is an artist and she is my number 1 mistake detecter ... ps she-s very proud of me since ive been watching your videosss!!
why haven't i noticed you before!! your videos are truly amazing for learning how to draw! I really like how you also cover the aspect about looking at mistakes and fixing them with redrawing them :D
Of all your incredible advice and beautiful artwork, the thing that amazes me most is your perfect line work. I dream of having such a steady hand. ;-;
As a musician, I can't help but recognise the similarity to music... and considering that, probably almost everything else in life. Thank you for this distilled piece of advice!
Yes super great advice! I make the mistake of practicing the same mistakes over and over.. x) I just move onto different photo references and thus I never got better. But I'll fix that now so I can improve!
I love these videos. That way I can still learn stuff, without paying for the full courses. Which I would pay for, but I simply don't have the money for
Those 3 points are bang on! If I may add (tho seriously out of practice myself)... When being analytical about your own drawing, I think you have to be your own worst critic and learn to see what and where your actually mistakes are (and to be really honest with yourself about them). I sometimes hold my work up to a mirror to see it in reverse and it really brings out things your brain misses when looking at it the way you drew it.
Man!!!! Your videos are totally awesome! Lately I have been looking everywhere, taking things from french, mexican, northamerican, spanish and russian books, doing again and again drawing studies, focusing on what would be the better way to draw correctly and I must say that I have found a lot of useful things... But your videos say almost the same, and sometimes even more, and more practically! For people who really love the art, and want to train the perceptive and expressive skills by the medium of the Academic (I do not know if that is right) Drawing; your videos can be a torch in the darkness. Please, keep up with the excellent work!!!
This is so helpful! I am really trying to improve poses and the overall look of figures I draw where you can see the whole body. I am used to just drawing from the shoulders up so I've gotten a little rusty with how to draw more realistic figures. Thanks so much! ~Maggie
Proko: re-do drawing where you've made mistake in last assgiement :D I've made two :D me: *lookin at all 19 drawings from spine assigment I've just finished while getting angry* .............
(Proko looks like Andrew Scott) thank you so much for these videos! I'm trying to teach myself you to draw and they've been a big help! Thank you thank you thank you! :)
At first I didn't really watch his videos since I wasn't interested in realism. But now that we're studying about it in school, his videos are really helpful. I should've studied it earlier :(
I love drawing but i always got the hands or the legs wrong, i know this video wasnt showing those parts but the method of fixing the problem helped a lot, thanks
+Luke Jarrett It's not that they look bad. They don't. It's that they don't look correct to the reference. I noticed it when he was doing it. (Not that I don't do same things). Not pushing angles to be as dynamic as they can be is how you wind up with a drawing that look technically good, but for some reason doesn't have the same dynamism as the reference. Just like in acting, it's better to oversell a pose than to undersell it.
I actually felt the same then the more I kept looking at it the more I saw how stiff it is COMPARED to the refrence and not to what your normal body does
That is awesome. I see what your talking about. I get upset when I make a mistake but you have to look at it like your learning something. I really like how you have sharpened your pencil. If you don't mind me asking what brand do you use? Thanks again for the post.
Thanks for your great work Proko¡¡ always come back to revise your videos to entente improve again. Do you know basel school? Your line type reminds me of the drawings we were taught in high school arts school basel. It is more than design, but the drawing is always very spectacular. Proko I would like to see something a little more crazy, more expressive. Thanks again for your great trabajo¡¡ Google traductor.... Sorry¡¡
Contemporary art practices are all about practicing your mistakes over an over again. When my tutors saw that I’m using Proko’s tips in my figurative work, they suggested I go study illustration instead of fine art, because fine art is about ideas and rejection of techniques. Hence I’m not an artist. I said I agree that I’m not an artist..., until I can materialize my ideas beautifully through technical excellence. Battle continues
First off thanks for all you excellent vids Proko! I'm a little confused with fact that the centre line trough the pelvis section doesn't line up with the centre of the cylinder for the lumbar. Is this a perspective thing?
Matt Young It isn't a center line. It's a gesture line. It captures the general movement or energy of the pose. Sometimes the gesture line will go with the spine and sometimes it won't. But it isn't a center line. It's a gesture line. That's important.
D Thanks for you comment D, Proko calls it 'the centre line through the pelvis'... I think i get it now... because the pelvis is pointed towards us from the side the spine will appear closer to us i.e. not in the centre of the cylinder.
Matt Young I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. I thought you were talking about the blue/red lines. But you're talking about the center axis line of the pelvic cylinder, yes? Regardless of the perspective, it should match up. The bottom of the lumbar cylinder should line up with that axis line as you suspect. IF the lumbar was attaching at the top of the pelvic cylinder. But the top of the pelvic cylinder indicates the highest point of the pelvis, being the iliac crest. The lumbar actually attaches to the pelvis at a point lower than the illiac crest. This is why it appears to be off center in this drawing. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying but I hope this helps you
+HoneyBadgerRadio I did a few sketches before, so I already had the gesture in my mind pretty well. But, you're right, I should have included it in the demonstration. Thanks.
Also, it's a matter of personal preference. I really don't like gesture lines, they're bloody distracting and really take my focus off the sketch. There's always that line I keep seing that, instead of helping, makes setting a pose up harder for me. So I just don't use them, and according to others, the poses I come up with are still pretty fluid and not very stiff at all.
how do you determine the height of the torso (and the distance from the pelvis)? What are some 'reference points' I should look for on the body? And how do you translate it to [the scale on your] paper?
Peter Gašperan you can translate it to the scale of your paper by using basic shapes and trying to get it right before putting too much detail and effort in it. with practice, you can scale just about any drawing.
Do you think you can make a video about drawing hands and everything to know about drawing hands? i REALLY struggle with hands and I'd love to know a technique you use because all the teqniques I've tried just never work for me and all your techniques have always helped me.
While these are not bad drawings by any means, it doesn't seem like calling them 'gesture' drawings is very accurate. I've always known gesture drawings to be pretty free flowing, used to capture the 'feel' of a pose. At the end of each drawing you show the 'flow' line...but I would think you'd want to start there, to get the 'feel' of the flow right off the bat rather than building it one piece at a time which can lead to stiffness. Again, still good drawings, but I think they could still be pushed further to be more dynamic.
you finally sold me the Skelly app. I was using a diff anatomy science app, now I get what was going on THX FYI: her lower sternum May be angled too far left & the manubrium & jugular notch isn’t angled up & posterior enough. Just a thought...
The way you talk about what you're doing in your videos makes it a lot easier to understand what you're doing! I notice the lead portion of your pencil is pretty long, and you're able to hold and use the tool kinda like a stick of charcoal. Did you buy the pencil like that? Or did you sharpen it a certain way? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I would really like to know so I can maybe get one for myself. Thank you!
Proko (forgot your first name) - I really think that this would be a great modern day Bob Ross TV show..teaching people how to draw. This would definitely be more entertaining!
5:05 What do you mean you compare the size of the cranium to the sternum? The cranium is the skull and the sternum is the front, middle part of the ribcage, correct? I must be missing some context here
When drawing from memory and not a reference do you prefer you start from the pelvis or always the spine? Also I understand the importance of the spine and try to incorporate it but always have trouble drawing the rib cage around it. Its hard to tell where it should be positioned...any advice? Thank you for your videos Proko!
i think he did mention the distance from ribcage to pelvis but i don't remember, recommend you look back for that information because i'm pretty sure he did cover that, I'll inform you if i find it
The summary of this video would be is draw the skeleton first, and afterwards add in the flesh. So if anyone likes to practice drawing bodies I’d see the reason why so many people wants to draw full bodies. In order to do that, for human anatomy the skeleton is important to pay close attention to especially the rib cage being where the lungs is located. When you apply the skeleton then the flesh when you draw bodies it will be easier to draw.
I'm a medical student and I know anatomy pretty well. Drawing it though is a whole different topic. What do you think about Netter's Atlas? The drawings he made?
Yup, that's the correct way to practice for sure, but the problem is most people are not aware of their mistakes.. That's the hardest part, being able to notice your mistakes on your own.
As an advice, you can see mistakes not in recent drawings, but in images that you had made a year or two years ago, redoing same image or fixing it, will help you notice how you improved and what was your previous mistakes you can see now.
for me the hardest part is not identifying the mistakes, but how to correct them. i see my mistakes fairly easily, especially after time, but i get frustrated because i cant figure out HOW to correct it. its like a puzzle that i cannot solve. a teacher is the best way to learn (beyond repetition and practice), someone who knows the secrets and will help u unlock them, which is kind of what these videos are.
Looking at a drawing in the mirror also helps you identify problems that you wouldn't have seen before. It kind of tricks your brain into looking at it like it's a new image and makes issues really stand out more. If working digitally, you can also flip the canvas horizontally and it does the same thing.
Alexey Kostovski not really just analyse your drawing and compare it to how your reference looks
super true
step 1 make mistake
step 2 Depression
Sums up my experiences.
Step 3: Pick yourself up
Step 4: Try again
rinse and repeat. :)
SchwippSchwappSchwen Step 3: Eraser/To the trash
Step 4: Correct the mistake/Do the drawing again.
ME
“I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” - Bruce Lee
Because we're artists and we kick people
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
- ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
ZynkVids not an Abraham Lincoln quote
@@kpw9825 "Everything you see on the internet is true" -Abraham Lincoln
My very first drawing teacher said I had no talent, and everything I accomplished was due to my hard work, which never took place. Only past 20 years I realized what he meant to achieve with that phrase, and how wise he was back then. This man was Albert Einstein.
Wow, everyone just tells you “Keep practicing you’ll get better eventually” but no one tells you how to practice... thanks for this! Incredible useful 👏👏
Me:
Make a mistake
Analyze the mistake
Redraw it then not be satisfied with that version either
Redraw it
Realize you have failed
Jump into a spikey bush.
Doff漫画 me too.
You failed when you accept failure
please close the door afterwards
Wow, so good! I wish I could afford your classes--but I can't. I'm really happy that you post some of the material for free for us poor people. Thanks! I'm learning a lot from you!
Great advice. This can be applied to any skill set. As an animator, I would really like to focus more on my life drawing skills to help with character movement.
+Micah Buzan I think that's a good idea. Life drawing will definitely help with animation and character movement.
As a knight, I agree!
dude, youre everywhere....on every freaking animaiton or drawing videos!! You're even on that traditionnal animation facebook group
@@ScrawnyScout you're actually a knight now!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude I also want to be an animator. Is there a way we can connect with each other, so You can give me some tips
we don't make mistakes we just make happy accidents
ken kaneki yeah well lets not repeat the same happy accidents
but all i want are happy lil trees...
Some would say that me stopping drawing at an early age was a mistake and squandering a talent. But I see what you mean, it is a happy accident that I am a near 40 year old who have only hated every job or education I have done, and now will never be able to live and expand in the field I love doing the most: putting my imagination onto paper.
Edit. Perhaps the accident is happy for someone else who never had to compete with me?
Bob
-Bob ross
it's amazing what you can grow in a plant pot these days!
Matt Young ...what?
The cylindrical bases of the drawings of the body kind of resembles a plant pot
Heheh, nice.
😅😅😅
😅
I wish more new artists would follow your advice of redrawing. You also made a comment about rendering that makes you better at rendering and that's it. I see so many posts of people who make 1 drawing that is an anatomical mess, render the shit out of it, post it for critique and expect praise. When I was younger I would also make a big thing out of every sketch, add detail until it was dead. Often I would use a light board to copy it (with all its flaws). It's not a very good habit. I can understand people want to show off their results and make pretty pictures, that's one reason for drawing after all, but it's sad when it stops you from growth. I found it rather liberating to not see my sketchbook as a place for beautiful, special snowflakes but a place for ugly mistakes, actual studying and understanding things, and a shit ton of terrible, ugly sketches that nobody will ever see. Makes me be able to focus on learning and not so much on showing off what is not worth it anyway.
Knight Brienne that is so true. I see so many. Your comment changed my perspective of drawing things. Thank you so much. My sketchbook is actually filled with rushed drawings, and wayy too much detail on one part of the drawing, and the other part is practically blank.
Thatfangirl32 Thatfangirl32 I know people with sketchbooks that are filled with very carefully done drawings though. It works for them. In the end it's important to have fun :)
There be wisdom in those words!
Drawing the basic shapes is quick and easy, and you can do 6-10 form sketches in the time it'd actually take you to finish a drawing and add the details.
By focusing on basic shapes, you're basically speeding up your learning by 6 to 10 times xD
This comment was incredibly liberating! I think it'd be good to have an "ugly" sketch book for general learning and a pretty one with what you've learnt
When I was in school, I would sketch a lot on random pieces of paper, assignments etc. And then after I was done with it, would just throw it away. Then I'd get a new piece of paper and start sketching.
I also swear at least half the songs I've produced have been lost because I forget to save, crashes, rage quits, etc. But it never really bothers me much.
Learning to not overvalue your creations is important. If you created something great, then you can do it again. And if you can't, then being able to consistently make something of that quality is now your goal. That's much better than holding onto that one piece like it's your precious.
You, are amazing. Almost every artist CZcamsr would say, keep drawing the same drawing after. They are basically telling us to draw our mistakes over and over again. You are telling us to redraw it, but telling us to fix our mistakes in the process. I like you. Sub.
Awesome, Proko. Not only showing us 'what' to learn, but 'how'!
This really sums up on mastering any kind of craft that you are on the journey of mastery. You do, observe, and correct. The major problem is that we do, we freak out (depression), and repeat the same mistake. It takes practice to develop that detached view from the end result and really focus on correcting the mistakes and on the process of achieving the result.
A great book that has helped me tremendously, and I really mean it, is the book called "Practicing Mind" by Thomas Sterner.
Another great book is also "The inner game of tennis" by Timothy Gallwey.
Man, you are not only a terrific artist with amazing talent and work ethic, but also a great teacher.
For a newbie it's hard to see the mistakes of own drawings, imho, anyway good lesson Stan!
Definitely. A mentor makes the process much quicker. There's some things you can check on your own though. For example, you can check your proportions by scanning the drawing and laying it over the photo in Photoshop. Easy way to see your mistakes.
Satsume What you could also do is that if you aren't sure whether your drawing looks good, you could leave it alone for the rest of the day, and then come back to it the next day. That usually helps me when I'm drawing. I usually am able to get a different perspective on my drawing once I have left it alone for a while.
Look at your drawings in a mirror.
@@AdamPopowski that is what I do
@@marielohr1947 this tip !! I’ll be doing a spread in my sketchbook thinking it’s pretty accurate but when I look back later in the day, I notice what improvements can be made.
Proko doing the Lord's work. Thanks a lot, man. Your videos have helped me so much, and I've improved faster over the last year or so than I have before.
Thanks Proko. I'm always amazed how well done this channel is!
Just wanted to thank you for these videos! Applying to art school (I know, yikes) really burnt me out, so getting back to the basics is helping me overcome the anxiety I started to associate with drawing!
Great video. Your tip about practice is an excellent one. Simple and powerful, which is what I'm looking for in drawing instruction. It seems I have found a good resource. Thank you.
Excellent. I just started drawing again after 2 years of inactivity and I find your videos very good in terms of base anatomy and shapes. Advancing quickly to start drawing poses and muscles again.
This is the best advice someone could ever give you as an artist, thank you Stan for being honest and allowing me to learn from you, thanks God my mom is an artist and she is my number 1 mistake detecter ... ps she-s very proud of me since ive been watching your videosss!!
Love the fact that you use your own drawings for topics like this :)
why haven't i noticed you before!! your videos are truly amazing for learning how to draw! I really like how you also cover the aspect about looking at mistakes and fixing them with redrawing them :D
Stan you are the best art teacher I've ever had! Will definitely be buying your courses once I get me a new laptop :)
Very helpful advice. Will definetly keep it in mind for my studies. Thanks!
Of all your incredible advice and beautiful artwork, the thing that amazes me most is your perfect line work. I dream of having such a steady hand. ;-;
Thanks for this video! Learning from mistakes is certainly the key to improvement!
As a musician, I can't help but recognise the similarity to music... and considering that, probably almost everything else in life. Thank you for this distilled piece of advice!
This is some stuff that I figured out on my own, but it was really damn hard to figure out on my own, so cheers! Good vid!
thank you for this channel! rad lessons ❤️✨
Thank you for making these videos. Funny, informative, and inspiring.
Funny?
Very good Sketch & Idea , Thank you Brother
Yes super great advice! I make the mistake of practicing the same mistakes over and over.. x) I just move onto different photo references and thus I never got better. But I'll fix that now so I can improve!
Great lesson. Thank you.
I love these videos. That way I can still learn stuff, without paying for the full courses. Which I would pay for, but I simply don't have the money for
Thanks for all this.
these tutorials are very useful to me thanks proko........
Those 3 points are bang on! If I may add (tho seriously out of practice myself)... When being analytical about your own drawing, I think you have to be your own worst critic and learn to see what and where your actually mistakes are (and to be really honest with yourself about them). I sometimes hold my work up to a mirror to see it in reverse and it really brings out things your brain misses when looking at it the way you drew it.
Proko its a great drawing! thanks for you videos your colorpaper princess
Man!!!! Your videos are totally awesome! Lately I have been looking everywhere, taking things from french, mexican, northamerican, spanish and russian books, doing again and again drawing studies, focusing on what would be the better way to draw correctly and I must say that I have found a lot of useful things... But your videos say almost the same, and sometimes even more, and more practically! For people who really love the art, and want to train the perceptive and expressive skills by the medium of the Academic (I do not know if that is right) Drawing; your videos can be a torch in the darkness. Please, keep up with the excellent work!!!
This is so helpful! I am really trying to improve poses and the overall look of figures I draw where you can see the whole body. I am used to just drawing from the shoulders up so I've gotten a little rusty with how to draw more realistic figures. Thanks so much!
~Maggie
You're welcome :)
Proko: re-do drawing where you've made mistake in last assgiement :D I've made two :D
me: *lookin at all 19 drawings from spine assigment I've just finished while getting angry* .............
Excellent post.
Loving your videos!!
All hail all mighty Proko! another video has arrived!
This is one of the most helpful videos I've seen for drawing, exactly what I've come to expect from Proko.
thank you this helps so much
This skeleton is clearly performing a Jojo Pose
OMG xD made my day xD
I've never even watched jojos and I get this refrence
wry
HEY
IS THAT A MOTHERFUKIN
JOJO REFERENCE?
I literally couldn't stop myself from adding arms and legs to complete the JoJo poses when doing this exercise
Thank you for your help
sir I really appreciate your videos! I save money by just watching your videos instead of enrolling to art classes. Your methods is on point! 👌
Thank you Proko you help me a lot cause I'm a very young artist
excellent, makes such a difference in my work when drawing from my imagination
(Proko looks like Andrew Scott) thank you so much for these videos! I'm trying to teach myself you to draw and they've been a big help! Thank you thank you thank you! :)
Im not even an artist and this helps me so much in many areas in life
i love you proko
At first I didn't really watch his videos since I wasn't interested in realism. But now that we're studying about it in school, his videos are really helpful. I should've studied it earlier :(
easy and wonderful.
I love drawing but i always got the hands or the legs wrong, i know this video wasnt showing those parts but the method of fixing the problem helped a lot, thanks
Great reminders. I feel like everything I do is a mistake.
Hey, Stan, I've been having a problem of drawing skewed. It looks fine until I mirror the image; what could you recommend to remedy this?
thanks proko :D
Thank you
What in the world!!.... i don't see anything wrong with any of the drawings. They both look great to me. I'm doomed.
Luke Jarrett Keep practicing! The more the draw, the more you learn. You'll eventually develop an eye for it.
+Luke Jarrett It's not that they look bad. They don't. It's that they don't look correct to the reference. I noticed it when he was doing it. (Not that I don't do same things). Not pushing angles to be as dynamic as they can be is how you wind up with a drawing that look technically good, but for some reason doesn't have the same dynamism as the reference. Just like in acting, it's better to oversell a pose than to undersell it.
@@JazGalaxy Yeah that's a much better explanation. I was wondering if there was something wrong with my eyes or something.
I actually felt the same then the more I kept looking at it the more I saw how stiff it is COMPARED to the refrence and not to what your normal body does
Goodness if those are stiff then my work is Hollow and petrified. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣
Miss Sincere
Same here lol
Thank you 🙏
You are great!
To Proko Thank you for sharing your knowlege. God Bless you overflow. from Sylvia de la Puente in Houston, Texas
"god bless you overflow" i dont know what you meant by that, but it sounds cool
My college recommends your videos when I study gestures and improving faster.
These videos drive me! I draw everyday!
nice art👌
I wish proko has a art book drawing guide
That is awesome. I see what your talking about. I get upset when I make a mistake but you have to look at it like your learning something. I really like how you have sharpened your pencil. If you don't mind me asking what brand do you use? Thanks again for the post.
How does this apply to gesture drawing in your opinion, Proko? Should i redraw the same pose over and over or should i just keep going?
Hello, just wondering what you use to draw. I love the lines.
Mesmo eu não entendo nada de inglês me ajuda bastante seus vídeos muito obrigado
Thanks for your great work Proko¡¡ always come back to revise your videos to entente improve again. Do you know basel school? Your line type reminds me of the drawings we were taught in high school arts school basel. It is more than design, but the drawing is always very spectacular. Proko I would like to see something a little more crazy, more expressive. Thanks again for your great trabajo¡¡ Google traductor.... Sorry¡¡
Contemporary art practices are all about practicing your mistakes over an over again. When my tutors saw that I’m using Proko’s tips in my figurative work, they suggested I go study illustration instead of fine art, because fine art is about ideas and rejection of techniques. Hence I’m not an artist. I said I agree that I’m not an artist..., until I can materialize my ideas beautifully through technical excellence. Battle continues
Thank you! I can study draw whith your images..
First off thanks for all you excellent vids Proko!
I'm a little confused with fact that the centre line trough the pelvis section doesn't line up with the centre of the cylinder for the lumbar. Is this a perspective thing?
Matt Young It isn't a center line. It's a gesture line. It captures the general movement or energy of the pose. Sometimes the gesture line will go with the spine and sometimes it won't. But it isn't a center line. It's a gesture line. That's important.
D Thanks for you comment D, Proko calls it 'the centre line through the pelvis'... I think i get it now... because the pelvis is pointed towards us from the side the spine will appear closer to us i.e. not in the centre of the cylinder.
Matt Young I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. I thought you were talking about the blue/red lines. But you're talking about the center axis line of the pelvic cylinder, yes? Regardless of the perspective, it should match up. The bottom of the lumbar cylinder should line up with that axis line as you suspect. IF the lumbar was attaching at the top of the pelvic cylinder. But the top of the pelvic cylinder indicates the highest point of the pelvis, being the iliac crest. The lumbar actually attaches to the pelvis at a point lower than the illiac crest. This is why it appears to be off center in this drawing. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying but I hope this helps you
Thanks 😊
Why are you starting with the masses and not the gesture line? You corrected your drawing but not your process.
+HoneyBadgerRadio I did a few sketches before, so I already had the gesture in my mind pretty well. But, you're right, I should have included it in the demonstration. Thanks.
I'd sort of agree here, I guess you are trying to demonstrate with these drawings how the underlying anatomy is contructed though?
Also, it's a matter of personal preference. I really don't like gesture lines, they're bloody distracting and really take my focus off the sketch. There's always that line I keep seing that, instead of helping, makes setting a pose up harder for me. So I just don't use them, and according to others, the poses I come up with are still pretty fluid and not very stiff at all.
how do you determine the height of the torso (and the distance from the pelvis)? What are some 'reference points' I should look for on the body? And how do you translate it to [the scale on your] paper?
Peter Gašperan you can translate it to the scale of your paper by using basic shapes and trying to get it right before putting too much detail and effort in it. with practice, you can scale just about any drawing.
batter how do I do that?
Nice guide. What method was it that you mentioned at 5:02?
I make a lot of mistakes on my drawings this video will help me a lot to not make mistakes no more
Do you think you can make a video about drawing hands and everything to know about drawing hands? i REALLY struggle with hands and I'd love to know a technique you use because all the teqniques I've tried just never work for me and all your techniques have always helped me.
While these are not bad drawings by any means, it doesn't seem like calling them 'gesture' drawings is very accurate. I've always known gesture drawings to be pretty free flowing, used to capture the 'feel' of a pose. At the end of each drawing you show the 'flow' line...but I would think you'd want to start there, to get the 'feel' of the flow right off the bat rather than building it one piece at a time which can lead to stiffness. Again, still good drawings, but I think they could still be pushed further to be more dynamic.
Phillip Rauschkolb While many start by drawing the flow line, I've also encountered many artists that prefer starting in different ways
you finally sold me the Skelly app.
I was using a diff anatomy science app, now I get what was going on
THX
FYI: her lower sternum May be angled too far left & the manubrium & jugular notch isn’t angled up & posterior enough.
Just a thought...
The way you talk about what you're doing in your videos makes it a lot easier to understand what you're doing!
I notice the lead portion of your pencil is pretty long, and you're able to hold and use the tool kinda like a stick of charcoal. Did you buy the pencil like that? Or did you sharpen it a certain way? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I would really like to know so I can maybe get one for myself. Thank you!
Not a dumb question. I have a video about it at Proko.com/materials1. It explains the pencil and how I sharpen it.
the only problem with proko is that he teaches so well that I don't know anyone who bought the premium course to ask if it is worth it hahaha
I search "how to mapping anime", then i found this. Actually its pretty good. Thanks.
im spookd
Proko (forgot your first name) - I really think that this would be a great modern day Bob Ross TV show..teaching people how to draw. This would definitely be more entertaining!
are you going to cover muscles and a future lesson ?
5:05 What do you mean you compare the size of the cranium to the sternum? The cranium is the skull and the sternum is the front, middle part of the ribcage, correct? I must be missing some context here
Super sir
What pencil did u use to draw that eye step by step plz answer anyone cuz whenever I draw all I use is normal pencil 2 hb
good video
When drawing from memory and not a reference do you prefer you start from the pelvis or always the spine? Also I understand the importance of the spine and try to incorporate it but always have trouble drawing the rib cage around it. Its hard to tell where it should be positioned...any advice? Thank you for your videos Proko!
i think he did mention the distance from ribcage to pelvis but i don't remember, recommend you look back for that information because i'm pretty sure he did cover that, I'll inform you if i find it
The summary of this video would be is draw the skeleton first, and afterwards add in the flesh. So if anyone likes to practice drawing bodies I’d see the reason why so many people wants to draw full bodies. In order to do that, for human anatomy the skeleton is important to pay close attention to especially the rib cage being where the lungs is located. When you apply the skeleton then the flesh when you draw bodies it will be easier to draw.
I'm a medical student and I know anatomy pretty well. Drawing it though is a whole different topic. What do you think about Netter's Atlas? The drawings he made?
Prog47 You are a med student, you need to have some degree and natural aptitude towards drawing and art.