Best Trail Bike under $3000? 2021 Orbea Occam H30
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2021
- Best Trail Bike under $3000? 2021 Orbea Occam H30
Even though this beauty is not that different than the H20 I thought it was time that I introduced the base model Occam. The Occam is quickly becoming my favorite trail bike and the base model has a ton to offer. Be sure to stick around to the end to see how much the Orbea Occam H30 weighs in at!
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I've had the H30 for about 8 months now, and have zero complaints! It's literally the perfect bike for someone like me, a converted roadie looking to explore the backcountry and cover long distances and never plans to do big jumps or aggressive DH. The trail geo with the steep seat tube angle keeps me comfortable on long rides while feeling sprightly uphill, and there is more than enough DH capability for any trail I'd bother to try with my horrible technical skills. The 140mm of travel helps to cover up for my mistakes as well
I was after a high end alu bike but couldn’t find anything that ticked my boxes, so instead i bought one of these based off your last video and upgraded all the components with 150 up front. Really impressed with the build quality of this frame, and the paint finish is superb - even at the lower spec its still a solid bike. I don't know why they don't get more attention.
I'm riding the H10 for nearly a year now.
I'm f*** loving it. 😍
It is so well balanced, looks awesome and feels just great up and down.
I only upgraded my discs, went tubeless and put some protection foil on it. The painting is quite sensitive.
I can totally recommend it. 👍🏼
Cheers from Germany
Thanks for the honest review and discussing the value trade off's. Very helpful I subscribed.
I appreciate the sub!
Just letting you know I’m still here appreciating your content good sir. Snow is finally melting here in Norway and I’m ready to get my 2020 M30 out again. All the best, that dude in Oslo.
And I love hearing from you! I feel like such a wuss because the first xc race of the season is tomorrow and it is going to be in the 50s which is chilly for this time of year. 😂😅
Very well done, good and balanced judgement! Cool bike, too 😊😎
Thank you for the vid, I bought the H30, same model and color you have there like 6 months ago and I’m super happy with it, I also describe many cool comments about the bikes and people always ask if it is not carbon!! ☝️☝️
Great video! Beautiful color bike. When you're doing fanny packs I get nervous. Hopefully maybe new bike this year, settled for great 1K deal on a 10 yr. old, hardly used fezzari Alta Peak for now. Nice longer travel and the 26 in wheel forces you to rehone your technical skills.
I bought a Oiz last fall after watching your review of it I upgraded the brakes . I would like to upgrade the shifting but I love the bike.
So my Occam H20 arrived today , fully built with no instructions or parts. Imagine my delight when i noticed my seat has a dropper post 😂😂. Its a gorgeous bike and bigger and chunkier than any of the videos have shown. Cannot wait to get it out and get it dirty.
Picked up this exact bike. Absolutely love it. Agree tho, the brakes need to be upgraded. Nice video by the way!!!
I ordered a custom h10 July last year, delivery kept getting pushed back. Eventually cancelled it and managed to import a h20 from Germany (live in the uk) love the bike, its a do it all beast💪. Can peddle all day but can deal with the rough when you point it down hill. Feel it's often overlooked in many review/comparison vids, nice to see someone showing it the love ❤
Hows the H20 holding up? Ive just ordered one, have to wait till july.
@@googlepixel9pro it's holding up really well. Not for 1 day have I wished I bought a different bike. Can handle everything from mellow local trails, long mountain decent and bike park days. Is it the best at any of them? Probably not but it's a brilliant all rounder which is poppy, playful and capable.
Like any other bike this one is not in stock presumably available in 2 years. However, it looks like a nice bike and I appreciate the nice welds and love the colors. I really love the M30 colors - nice to see they still care about paint on a nice bike.
I have exacly the same bike since 2 years and i love it. And yes you're right, the firs thing is ugrade brakes. I did this on my previous bike and upgraded to magura mt-5, cheap and very good brakes. The only thing that bug me is tire-rim ratio. The rim is 25c and the front tire is 2.5. It looks litte strange 2.5 tire on this small rim. It's also WT Tire which is optimized for 30mm rim actually.
This is a gorgeous bike and the color is sweet. I have been eyeing an Ibis Ripmo AF but I may have to look hard at this one
I just recently received my H30 2021 and it rode like a dream straight out of the box! However, since being on the positive side of 15 stone I decided to upgrade to shimano xt 2 piston brakes and got a pair of 30mm burgtec bars on it and it is a literal machine! Handles anything you throw at it and is super fun and playful to ride despite being a 29er!
I couldn't agree more!
Well done on receiving your h30! Picking mine up tomorrow! Can I just ask please - when you upgraded the brakes did you get new levers and also did you need an adapter for the post mount on the fork or did you stick with the 160mm rotor? Thanks in advance.
@@OutandaboutWalking Cheers mate! Yep! new levers, hoses and callipers. I didn't need a any kind of mounting adapters for the callipers+rotors as I just stuck with the 160mm discs it came with!
Hope this helps mate and enjoy new bike day tomorrow!!
@@TheRyMul Thanks for your response mate and clearing that up for me. Yep, can’t wait 😊
I'll be getting the H10 on Friday. Liked the way the H20 hardware except I don't see the point in an slx shifter when for a couple bucks you get a two gear shifter in the XT. Also the H10 was the only occam they had that wasn't black.
Hi, love your videos!! 👍 Wanted to ask if you could make a video on the Trance x 2 2021 🚵😊Thanks
i ordered this bike from my local bike shop a few months ago, it should be arriving next week!
I have been thinking between this and a Scott Spark with 120mm. But the only versions available in my country are the expensive ones. Maybe I'll continue saving to see what comes out for Christmas.
Very interesting video - I ordered a H20 because of the pandemic, when ordering it had a shorter lead time. 9 months later and my bike is finally going into production next week.
That has been the deciding factor on most bikes the past year. 😅
I’m just glad to see someone else is waiting as long as I am. Purchased an Anthem and it’s been 8 months, still no word on anything.
Rode it for my 1st time today Flying J in Conifer CO. Impressed for more, Went solo today. The 29er wheels feel different, but confident. Still Playing around, never had a dropper seat, so that is fun.
Can you please share your experience so far? Did you change anything ? Do you find it heavy? I inderstand good for uphill and downhill but what is the performance on the plains? I need to pedal a few km until I reach the trails. Thanks mate!
I have a 2021 Occam h30 (the cheapest version) and love it. But, I recommend choosing the Fox DPX2 as rear damper instead of the Fox DPS if you're planning on doing any kind of rougher downhill. Going down a smooth track is no problem but the Fox DPS is just to small for a normal sized dude going down a rock garden. The front fork, M. Bomber Z2, have no problem with rougher terrain.
Hi Johan and rest. On some forums some owners state that they find the H30 a little heavy. In your opinion this is an all purpose bike? I always need to ride several kms on tracks to get to the paths and trails. I come from a EPIC Comp and now looking for something more confortable. At 56 back hurts :-). Thanks for your comments
@@MrAlpontino I think the Occam is a good all-rounder aimed at enduro styled riding. For me it feels lightweight and stable since I mostly ride burly and rocky terrain and compare with heavier enduro bikes. For pure cross-country biking there are better choices.
you wasted money buddy,you should get another bike,!!
Hey man, great video.
Is that a Medium size?
I ask because the weight!
Thank you
Sick vid
Needs more Buddy content 😍
Thank you for your beautiful videos. They're very useful and exhaustive.
What would you recommend between this Orbea Occam H30 and Giant Trance 29 3?
What Bike did you end up with? 😁😊
Best regards from Germany
Hi there. Thanks for your review. Just received my H20 but I think I’ve received 2020 model as rims are Mach -1 680. Are these better/worse/equivalent to the Raceface AR 30c model?
i have had my h30 since 2020 i have fitted full xt groupset, raceface next carbon bars with atlas stem, and I9 enduro s wheelset with new maxxis tyres (dhf and dhr II), i love my bike it puts a smile on my face every time. the fork and shock work great for me so have had no requirement to upgrade either. the bike is a solid performer and a great platform and i would highly recommend.
I got a 2021 H20 over the H30 purely because I got a great deal. But I’m a member of some Orbea Occam owners forums and have heard great things about the H30. Other than the brakes it’s not really any different. Both are fantastic all round bikes.
One thing to be aware of, the shock bolt is aluminium and has had issues with shearing. Orbea now do a steel one which is worth getting fitted.
Oh wow thanks for the heads up on that bolt on that aluminium shock bolt vulnerability. Do you have a link to any of these Orbea Occam forums discussing this?
@@saulhernandez738 Orbea Occam Owners on Facebook. Orbea sell the bolts on their website.
Was torn between this Orbea and the Trance X 29 2. Bought the Trance due to its availability but I’m sure I would’ve like this one too.
Both are awesome bikes. I think availability is the biggest deciding factor at the moment😅
Is there a video you have done on tire and bike setup for your races?
Hi, I was wondering what size is the bottom bracket? (Im trying to build an occam)
I am a new owner of a H20 2023.. Wanna ask - Is there a way to setup frame alignment from under the seat tube? In rear shock area?
Does anyone know what the silver nut is for on the linkage? Just picked up my new Occam and there's one in my box.
Cheers
Hey guys newbie here, can you recommend some good options to upgrade the brakes on the H30???
I've had the h30 for a couple years and it comes stock with 140mm travel marzocchi z2, if I upgraded to a 170mm z1 would the increase in travel upset the geometry of the bike or do you think it would be okay?
Between that bike and the Trance , which one would you go for and why ? . Please .
Nice Video.
Do you would take it to a Bikepark or Bigger Jumps?
(sorry for my Englisch I'm German)
That is a good question: Can this bike do as well on short track and trails, as it would in a bike park with larger jumps?
I just found this bike for 2000 dollars and want a bike that can go up and down in any and all urban environments both offroad and in the city Witherspoon the least stress in my gips and felet a full suspension Will be a fun way to go…
if I put the Schwalbe Maraton Plus on this bike for the street would I be better off to choose 50 mm or their 62 mm sized tires to get the most out of this bike ,
which size would give the most fun ride? I am new to all this but felt this bike and the price is too good to miss out! Please advice me what the width differences would really do ?
Thanks in case you or anyone can get back to me this weekend 🎉
My new saracen has shimano deore 12. It's smooth compared to my sram 12 sx which constantly needs tweaks.
hey Mossie, not a question related with content of this video, but I hope you might help me out. Your shop sells lots of Giants and I was wondering have you had any issues with Giant Crest 34 forks? I'm still waiting for my XTC SLR Model 1 to arrive (bumped from late March to mid May), but I have read some people complained that forks had some issue, some clicking noise etc. So I was curious what's your shop's experience with it and if you have some recommendation what to in the store do when bike finally arrives and I get to pick it up. Thanks and keep up with the great content!
I have read that as well but in all honesty we haven't had any of the crest forks come back with that issue. If it is something faulty within the fork Giant will take care of ya.
@@MossieRidesBikes thanks. I hope everything will be fine with my bike :)
Hi, i have found your awesome channel whilst trying to answer a difficult question. Should i get an Oiz 20 2021 or a Occam H20 Eagle? I am a once a week rider and like a variety of different routes up and down a hill. Nothing too exciting or challenging but hoping to maybe a do a little more in the summer with my first full suspension myb. All advice welcome.
I am in love with my OIZ but I will say that the Occam is a more popular bike with more people. It is heavier than the Oiz but it has a more raked out geometry and more suspension. This means the occam is going to be a little more versatile and handle better on the downhills. The oiz is designed be a fast race machine.
@@MossieRidesBikes thanks bud.... what do you think is a better bike the Occam or a trek top fuel 8 2021? The choice is now between these two bikes as i have ditched, with heavy heart the Oiz.
Much thanks
Marc
How, do you feel the size, it is good to size up or size down with this bike?
Just placed on a deposit on this bike but one year wait ;( anyways what size are the rotars?
Thinking about going for a (lightly) used h20 (2020) seems like a good idea!
I've been riding the h20 2021 for 6 months and loving it. Haven't had 1 moment of regret
@@stephenheggie4573 didn't get to but it someone got it before me, got my hands on the fuel ex 5 instead tho
@@mrfillebojj5731 good work getting any bike. The best bike is the one you have! 👌
Hi i live in Australia but it is so hard to find where to get this bike? Do you know if you can get it in Australia? Also i found some websites that sell it but its 4,699. Do you know why there are two different prices ( 4,699 and 2,800)
If anyone could answer my questions that would be great 😁
Someone is trading me there or beya aloy without a rear wheel for my stump jumper 2019 short travel that I overforked to be a long travel should I do it?
What's the size of this Occam h30 in the review ????
If I order it online, how long does it takes to get one?
as for 2023 feb i came across a 2022 occam h30 close out deal 3399 CAD before tax in toronto, is this worth it for the current market? should i wait and save my money for better bike?
Where can i buy the orbea occam h30? Also how much please,
Rookie question here, when you suggest to upgrade the brakes, you mean to upgrade the pads? Or something else? Or the whole thing?
Thanks.
The whole mechanism, levers, pads and discs
Hey, do you think the Occam is overkill or not good enought to pedal to drive mostly as a tour/light trail bike? Really love the frame and the overall package I get with it, also currently available in my Size.
It depends on what you really want out of a bike. The occam pedals extremely well for the amount of travel it has. It would be a little overkill if all you are riding is gravel roads and easy trails but I still wouldn't be afraid to take this thing everywhere. I know a guy who put slicks on his and rides it mainly on the road😅😅
I just found this bike for 2000 dollars and want a bike zo can go up and down in any and all urban environments both off road and in the city…
if I put the Schwalbe Maraton Plus on this bike for the street would I be better off to choose 50 mm or their 62 mm sized tires to get the most out of this bike ,
which size would give the most fun ride? I am new to all this but felt this bike and the price is too good to miss out! Please advice me what the width differences would really do ?
Thanks in case you or anyone can get back to me this weekend 🎉
Went to buy this, no luck cos they had only Medium. I bought H20 in Large. I like the bike but it feels like it could be little lighter. What would you change in this bike to make it a bit lighter(with holding the value)?
The first thing I usually change is the wheel set. A new wheel set will make the biggest difference on a bike and you can always save your stock wheels in case you go to sell the bike
Secret to upgrades: use it till it breaks.. then upgrade
my sx works great.... i even did DH with it😅😅 its a hardtail
Oh boy
Will it handle downhill?
that only dislike is from that guy who took it personally that you called marzocchi as manitou
😂
I'm 5'10 and looking to buy one of these, they recommend a large but the reach is bigger than my current lg which is making me wary. Would anyone suggest sticking with their sizing or going down a size?
I’m 6’1” and have a large H20. I tried the XL and it felt huge.
I'm 5"9 and ride a h20 in medium. Got a 170 dropper instead of the 150 and it fits me liiike aaa glllooove (if you don't read that in an ace venture voice, watch the clip on CZcams!)
Nice weight
orbea occam h30 2021 weight 14.8 kg
What do you think is better, this or a ripley AF at the price point?
Yeah, I am asking myself the same question...
It's not a Deore 12 speed they put on a Sun Race 11-51T cassette.
I have the 2020 H30 - it’s a little ripper but, yes, ditch the M201 calipers for 420s...and the teensy front disc for a 200mm...a 150mm Fox air shaft goes straight in, too...oh, and fit MT500 levers. And the Rekon is only for light trails and XC. The bars and stem can aren’t that great, either!
Hi. Do you have a 29er H30 as I have been desperately trying to find out if the 150mm air shaft will fit into the 29er Z2 fork. Thanks in advance.
@@OutandaboutWalking Yup, it sure will. This is the part you need: Fox Air Shaft Assy Service Set for FLOAT 34 Rhythm, 150mm - 820-02-369-KIT.
Basically the Z2 is a cheaper, heavier Fox 34, but in many ways better because the walls are stiffer.
Check it out: m.pinkbike.com/news/review-marzocchi-bomber-z2-fork-is-impressive.html
@@eightlivesdownmtb thanks for your swift reply mate. I will def be upgrading to the 150mm. Was it fairly straightforward to fit the shaft?
@@OutandaboutWalking Check out Syd Fixes Bikes - she has a CZcams how-to, but it’d take your LBS less than an hour to swap them.
@@eightlivesdownmtb perfect - 🙏
15kg240 en taille M pour mon H30 2022
Hi guys WARNING: .. I owning the H30 for 6 months. Its a lovely bike ( brakes swapped ) . However there is a WEAK SPOT! Upper Shock Bolt snaps fairly easy. Please check it often because it can ruin your frame if you fail to notice it in time!!!
Sounds obvious but what exactly would the symptom be of the snapped bolt, and what would it look like? Would it be pretty obvious that its snapped?
@@ericrollins4607 you would hear strange noise coming from the frame. Cracking noise. The bolt can move so it would poking out more, and you could turn it endlessly without fastening it. Eventually you could pull out half of it. :)
32lb? I better check my scale. I have h10 and it’s 34lb.
this weight is completely wrong 😱
Sx egel is better
Gracias por el video, pero deberias mostrar mas la bici y menos tu cara, es solo una sugerencia. Saludos