Survive Knives Is Over.
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Choosing to use "survive" in the company name didn't age well.
Yeah… ouch😅
Funniest comment I've read today on utube .... keep it up .. cheers from australia.
@@markdudley3831 it made me giggle as well!
His main problem was that he was trying to make knives to an unobtainable level of perfection with the kind of operation he had. The other was dreaming up new designs and trying to put those into production when the original designs were never getting made, finished, & shipped out.
It sounds like his OCD and/or autism, and over ambition got the best of him, and he was too proud listen to anyone else trying to talk some sense into him trying to help him.
@@Andrew-en4zx THIS.
I knew Guy was making excuses, and that his manufacturing process was badly in need of process development for scale, and that he didn’t price to cover costs but I didn’t realize that it was THAT bad, with him bottlenecking 80% of the manufacturing processes and going AWOL half the time. Looks like he did pretty much everything wrong from both a business strategy and manufacturing process development perspective.
It’s so sad!!!! I hope he gets help❤
@@ericasedcyeah, he strikes me as a guy that would be happiest designing and developing new knives rather than manufacturing standard models. He should train people to produce knives, he shouldn’t be on the floor.
But there is one thing he can do: make empty promises and lie! I'm pretty allergic to Survive!
@@renexwing1546 That is the opposite of good business practices.
Crazy that so many people never got their preorders, I would be so upset too!! I’m glad you’re shining light on the knife makers that deserve the customers and helping design knives that are similar to what they lost!!!!
@@nicoledodge7240 thanks best!!! All we can do is find solutions!
I put an order in back in September of '22. Never fulfilled. No refund, nothing. Requested a refund several times, no response. There you go. Sad. Thank you so much for all you do. Love your reviews and your insight into knives.
I’m so sorry. Endless comments here saying the same thing😢
Kudos for taking on this burden...a burden that shouldn't be yours. You have a big heart. Love ya E
@@richterknives we are finding some solutions so that makes me happy!!!! Love ya Richter!!!!
The sad part is no one is going to get their knives they paid for.. w/ 3,000 pre orders made and paid =1,000,000 where that money went who knows a little here little there. Jst a bad deal for everyone, especially when they are such good knives
@@zbaird3 yes it’s all very sad
it is a sad thing to hear of a knifemaker not doing well. prepaid knives, and deposits on unmade knives can be a very dangerous thing.
@@joecalton1449 especially 4,000 preorders unfulfilled 😔
@@ericasedc i cant hardly get my head wrapped around that, that is just not cool at all.
Feel really bad for the people that lost their money. Sounds like the company was very poorly ran. Thanks for sharing, God bless you and your family.
Yeah. It’s so sad. The knives are incredibly made… when they ARE made. I hope everyone who lost their money eventually somehow, gets it back…
Good indifferent coverage, people can make up their own mind about what happened. There are so many factors that we will never know, the people who paid for knives should get a a part of the liquidation if possible.
@@EDCMECH oh for sure!!!
Yeah, been waiting over 2 years for a GSO 4.5 and GSO 4.7. Tried reach them dozens of times but got no reply. I was dumb enough to believe in this conman. I hope he ends up in jail.
Thanks for this video, the information and all your efforts!
It sucks because they’re literally all there. The blanks. Just sitting there waiting to be put together!
@ericasedc So, maybe it would be a good idea and an honest one to ship out those blanks, scales, parts and sheaths to those waiting. Not great but at least it would be something.....but, hey, no way! He will sell off all those parts (which, technically, by law belongs to the customers....we have already paid for them), to a company to partial pay the debts that he has mounted up. How Guy can look himself in the mirror in the morning and not do the honest and honorable thing is beyond me.
@@ericasedc anyways, keep up the good work and happy 4th of July to you and all our American cousins! 🙂
got from them a 4.5 cpm3v that didn't hold the edge. Send it back to them, did not get a new one.... so, seems to be gone
@@JackknifeBuschSchuleSurvival wow that is awful
They got me as well, never got the product. At least they could have answered there e-mails.
@@FredSwed I know😓 I’m so sorry
I contacted my bank yesterday to try and get my money back. They sent my claim to their research department so hoping i get my money back.
@@MRGoods89 I pray you do
Oof. I’m not educated enough on this topic. Thanks for sharing with us
I just hope we can come together and help those that never got their product. I want everyone to enjoy this community and hobby- so maybe we can design some new fun knives!❤
Hey Erica! If you need any help designing I would love to help! I can do CAD so you could watejet the profiles
Ok that could surely be helpful. Can you contact me on IG?
3 years waiting on a GSO 10 and 12 that will never be delivered :(
I’m sorry😢❤
Holy shit, 4.5 years waiting on exactly that! A GSO 10 & 12.
Waiting one whole year for a refund that never came. I'm gutted to be honest. And royally pissed off. Hope we get our blades or our money back!!! Cheers.
@@EarlyMist Let’s keep hoping some sort of resolution comes for the finance part!
Off topic question, but have you used the spyderco lil temperance 3 in k390 yet?
@@dustinwhitt5297 nah. Not my jam! Tested the K390 Delica though. One of my favorite knives of all time
Plenty of other makers that have knives in stock or will make a knife without money upfront (like me). Glad you are here and not going anywhere and always helping inform our community 💚
Exactly. Thanks so much for watching❤
People are waiting 10 years for a knife? Crazy. I hope they did not have to pay too much upfront.
Dude some people put like 10 preorders in and never got a single knife. 😤
They paid in full
@@TheScrawnyLumberjack absolutely wild
@@ericasedc It's really a sad story.
And Survive was a "premium" knife company, so they were putting down some major buckos. Damn, 10 at a time is several thousands of $$$!!😢😢
Can’t say enough how much i appreciate folks like you. The community deserves to have that unsung hero and that’s you in this position.
You looked at what was going on and took a level headed and productive stance.
Even still in the aftermath it’s great to see you kept true to your opinion and tried to help.
All the best Erica
This made me smile brother. Thank you❤
@@ericasedc anytime 🙏🏼
You have a good heart
Thanks. I try.
Another good video Erica. Stay Positive, ohhh I guess you are. I've never purchased a knife directly from a small manufacturer. With a small exception, I put my hands on the knives I buy before I put the cash down on the counter. Thanks for sharing this sorted tale and putting possible solutions out there.
We are working on some other ones as well!!! Only moving up from here!
Unfortunately there is only two alternatives: Get their money back or sue to get part of the liquidation of the company if any!
The liquidation is just helping pay off the over 1.1 MILLION $ of debt. This isn’t returnable really😢
Thank you for doing this. At least you are trying to figure something out. I was a big Survive enthusiast. I never bought a knife, because I couldnt afford it at the time, but I really respect what you are doing here. Thank you.
@@J_O_N_Butler we are really working on reviving some designs with our own twist obviously. Just trying to find ways to help people who missed out!
Bought a knife from John after seeing a review on your channel. Even after you gave him hell about his magna-cut heat treat. It’s one of my favorite knives. Your credibility is unquestioned as far as I’m concerned for what it’s worth.
@@timbober1 thank you man. That means so much to me
Also, as someone who has struggled with mental illness since my early teenage years and has seen it in most of their family in one shape or another... watching Guy's video, you can definitely see it all over him. I'm not making excuses for the guy, his actions are his own, but he definitely needs to get help.
@@dustinwhitt5297 oh absolutely. He just can’t stop. Like… it’s over. And he still keeps going. I feel horrible. I cannot imagine what it’s like
Living with that level of delusion. Struggling with the reality in your head vs the one outside of you that everyone else believes.
Thanks for the update. Truly sad. I actually had a Survive knife. It took 2 weeks to get it in, and the only reason being it was on their ready to ship listing. I was surprised I get it in, considering the horror stories of 5 years waiting. The fit and finish was good, it was in 3v steel. Blade geometry was really good.
It sucks because the literal knives themselves are incredibly well made. When you receive one. It’s terrible so many people don’t get to experience what they paid for.
You are right they were well made. And I was surprised for the price they were selling for. But it’s shame, they couldn’t deliver on what they promised their customers.
A survival knife has a 9.5 inch blade or larger. Something big enough to fight bears and split wood. Typically a Bowie knife.
@@Jeremy-Two thanks for sharing! I’m sure they do!
A modified Old Hickory!
I ordered a GSO 4.1 back in 2013 and got it without any issues. It remains the best knife in my collection to this day. Sad to see the business fail so badly.
@@duybear4023 it’s heart breaking
I appreciate the way you're trying to help, it's really great to see a supportive stance instead of taking the easy road of dumping on Survive and Guy. I had two preorders for the "Vendetta" line of knives that he had planned, excited that things might've been turning around in 2022. Best I can hope for now is that someone buys that IP from him and they become a reality (but not my preorders themselves). I'm fortunate to have found other designs that fill what I was looking for, but still would've been nice to get those.
@@aznelite325 I would rather try to help than just shit on everything and talk horribly with zero productivity! Thanks for the kind words
I also had a pre order for a vendetta 7 that i wanted so bad. Can i ask what knives you found that were similar?
@@MRGoods89 Yeah I had a V5.5 and V7 preordered. For the V7, I think you could go for a Spartan Harsey Difensa (premium) or Spartan Harsey Fighter (Kabar collab, no choil). I have both and they're great, with Lucas Carroll scales on the Fighter.
@@aznelite325 i also have both of those already 😂
@@MRGoods89 Haha well they worked for me as substitutes for the V7
I don’t know. I remember wiring 5 neck knives together. Heat treating them in a forge. They sold just fine. As far as I know. They’re still on n service by their end users.
Thanks for sharing!
It’s such a sad and messed up situation. I can say I only feel bad for those that lost their money. Hopefully everyone in the community will learn from this.
I am hoping we can come together and help those that lost their money and never got a knife!
That would certainly be awesome!
Was waiting on a GSO 10 & 12 myself. 4.5 years. Promised a year ago for a refund....pretty much ghosted since after 4 more promises. I'm very upstet to watch all these videos what a disgrace. Should be ashamed of himself.
That’s really saddening. I’m so sorry.
I've got a 5.1 and 4.5 ordered that have been on order for over 18 months. I did however get a GSO 4 that did get delivered. Makes me so sad because it's a fantastic knife.
@@thecorrnershed the whole thing is just so sad.
@@ericasedc Does this mean I won't get my knives?
@@seppukusushi2848 correct
All I want is my GSO-12 I ordered 3 years ago. Is that too much to ask for?
It’s not too much to ask for- but you won’t be getting it I don’t think 😢
Architect is a great option.
@@brr8888 they look great!
Adam Lanza never existed !!! More info on my channel !!!
@@SandyHookNeverHappened thanks for watching!
You’re an idiot. Grow up.
Idiot was saying there’s a problem with Magnacut, the only problem was him lying.
@@brr8888 yeah… 😓
Wow Erica, this is very selfless and huge hearted of u, God is smiling on u young lady
Thank you so much!!!
You have a good heart.
Awh, thanks!!!!🥰
Miss Erica your a blessing to the Knife Community! Awesome video and hopefully those that got burned by Survive Knives can get a knife that they will treasure and use!
I really hope so!!! We will keep thinking of ideas here!!!!
Definitely a sad ending. Cool of you to show some alternatives though. You have some truly dope designs out there and of course, Allen's work is just insane. I still need to get a piece from Steve
Dusty is offering 20% off to customers that got ripped off. The community is amazing.
Interesting video, Slater! What a bizarre situation! Full stop! I'm not super familiar with the knife industry, but stuff like this happens in the guitar/instrument/music industry ALL the time. There'll be a talented luthier (guitar builder) who impresses everyone with his instruments, gets stars in his eyes about starting a guitar company, starts taking order for guitars, and a year or two later inevitably gets in over his head, takes too many pre-orders, can't keep up, and files for bankruptcy the next year, leaving customers without their guitars, etc. Alway a sad situation! I suppose it just sort of reinforces your point, Erica, about working with custom knife makers who have their hands on every single knife, who do their own custom heat treats, as opposed to Survive, who did NOT have his hands on every single knife, but was using Peter's heat treat to try to keep up with all the back orders... It says a lot about you, Erica, that you're trying to find a solution to this situation, and not just talking reddit conspiracy nonsense and empty political bantering etc. You're such a wonderful, empathetic person, and I appreciate you!! That pink shirt looks amazing on you and gets the easy win today!! Your adorable freckles are at peak summertime omnipresence holy crap!!! Almost 13k!!! Another great video, Erica!!! ❤🧡
Wow thank you Jesse!!!! I appreciate all the kindness. We are definitely coming together to try to offer solutions!!!! That’s all we can do- is move forward!!!!
Thanks for your positivity dispite the sad news about the industry
Thanks for watching my friend😊
Sucks that all this is ending this way. The product is top tier. Anyone want to discuss or debate?
Certainly there are issues from a business model perspective. Absolute disaster.
Glad I was able to get the units I have.
@@joewilson3519 oh it totally sucks! The knives are amazingly built.
I’m really glad you particularly made a video about this. It’s only you and 4 other people I actually listen to when it comes to the knife community.
Random question, would you ever be interested in doing a collab video with Jon (heavyset tactical), Steve Callari, and Jacob B Peterson? I’m asking because in my opinion and from the people that I’m familiar with, y’all are the most upstanding youtubers that represent the knife/edc community. Plus I think it would be an interesting video with the potential to make a big positive impact.
I love what you do Erica, keep going❤!
Hey- thanks so much!!! I appreciate you. I would absolutely do a video with Steve! I love him!!!! I am getting to know Jon as we speak. He seems like a great guy. Thanks so much for commenting. ❤
I ordered 4 knives from survive…
I did get 2 of them, but only the knives that were far more sus on the grand scope of what they offer.
Recieved a factory second GSO 4 and 5.1 in magnacut
Never received GSO 3 or EDC 4.
I wasted 2 years on Survive, Guy owes me about $400. I can only imagine what others are going through.
I’ll definitely check out the makers you are suggesting and thank you for the video!
@@Igor-qi9pg well. 2 is better than none I suppose. But $400 is a LOT!
Well, 7-10 business day I can provide an update on whether my bank successfully charged back my account. I suggest others do the same. My oldest order is 2 years ago and they seem to be trying to get the funds returned. I feel bad for everyone involved.
The knives I got from survive are really nice, but not worth any of the experiences involved. I learned my lesson and it’s rough as a new knife enthusiast.
Thanks Erica
@@Igor-qi9pg thank you so much for sharing this!
That shirt looks kinda pink
CLOSE YOUR EYES.
@@ericasedc..... hahahaha
Survive owes me 4 blades or over 1k..im going to my bank to file sales fraud report and have the bank lawyers deal with this...
@@Coryt1116 good thinking.
Be interested to learn of the outcomes of all this … fraud charges / embezzlement?
Makes me sick to hear how things turned out for so many folks. Can’t say I’m surprised though honestly with all the controversy. I turned more than one person to architect knives that has many similar models that you can actually get. Nice to see you doing what you can for the community!
We all gotta do what we can here!❤😊
Cypress Creek Knives are amazing. I have a Bush crafter and a guide.
The Skink from him is on my list!
Another great video Erica, mental health is a very real and very important issue!!!!!!!
It really is. I feel for anyone struggling. I truly do. People got really hurt from ONE person’s hurt though.
I hope another company takes over and i can still get my product..
@@Coryt1116 highly doubting that
Their website is still selling preorder knives…. Crazy
@@livingmycreation wtf
Well said, E!👍👍
Thank you D!
On the 2 yr anniversary of knife order I called "survive" and cancelled, I concluded the dude was/is BS.
Yeah😔Super unfortunate
Yeah I got screwed out of my money what a Dick. Ordered back in Nov. 2023 and got 249.00$ of nothing but an excuse, I would have been somewhat happy if he sent a blade blank. Thanks for your video.
We are working on ideas to make some options. I’m trying here man! So sorry you endured this.
Good morning Ms E. Good on you trying to help. Take care.🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
Cheers brother! Enjoy your day❤
Got me for a 5.1 😢
@@NewMoonBlitz damn ):
Ordered 1 in 2022 and had asked for a refund months ago after sending numerous emails, certified letter, and social media posts with response back. I feel that if this 5,000 pre-orders that were paid for, maybe a class action lawsuit should be in progress. Why should the average hard-working American have to lose his money for somebody? I knew when he started posting CZcams videos two to three times a week. Crying about every little thing that everybody else goes through in life. Like losing a family member, the steel problem, how this destroyed his marriage, and how he works everyday was excuses because guess what? Everybody has those same issues. If people decide to do anything about going after him please let me know because it's not right that he's going to walk away and we get stiffed.
@@johncaban4310 I totally agree.
@@johncaban4310 Yes that was worrying hopefully we can get our money back.
Really like the look of the mink how can I put an order in?
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Contact Levi!!! Here’s his IG. Just DM him!
instagram.com/northern_knifeworks?igsh=enBuZGlmM3A3bzU4
Hello awesome thank you for your humanity , missed some of your videos , thank you for being great joyful help in safe knife fun world , MY knife is still in the process with Levi , take good care Erica be well .
I can’t wait for you to get yours dude!!!!
Anyone paying royalties to Survive for their influence?
They failed for sure, the knives freaking ROCK!
The knives are incredible yes
Love their knives. Have 5.1 and 3.5 in 20CV from the early 2010s. Still my fav knives. Excellent customer service and delivery back then.
@@cecilm3720 wish it was still like that
5 unfulfilled orders here. Can I have my unfinished blanks at least? I paid hard-earned money for them, I think it's fair to ask for them.
You won’t be getting those I’m sorry. They got shut down.
@@ericasedc Thank you for taking the time to answer, Erica.
It’s about time that they stop stealing money from people- taking payment and order for product they they knew their business model couldn’t support. It’s dishonest and disgusting. People loved the designs and the novelty of high grade steels. But for me, all those folks that bought them under the idea there would be a lifetime warranty should also get something some reassurance if he sells the design and company
Totally. I am really curious to see what happens.
Love that vulture 👊🏻 I see cold steel in their future 😂 we all work but everyone can’t inspire folks to get behind a maker, money isn’t bad trust me I have to make alot of it every week to pay my employees bills and material houses 😅 you do great work , be rewarded
Thanks for stopping by my friend!
Ditto - Out $460 for a GSO-12 ordered since 2021. Stupidly bought into his 'please be patient, I'm working on it videos'. Any chance your audience could recommend a similar alternative for a high quality heavy blade chopper / all rounder (and don't say BK9 lol) ?
So I do know ESEE makes a Junglas chopper. I am working on seeing if we can recreate some of these models as well!!!
@@ericasedc Would be fantastic if you looked to recreate something like the GSO-6,8,10 or uniquely GSO-12 which had a better, slight kukri design imo. Thanks for the ESEE suggestion, but I'm not sure 1095 is the best selection for a tool designed to take this kind of abuse.
@@Neil_MacGregor we are looking at Magnacut!
Hello, Erica. You're a good hearted person.
Awh thanks. I do try. ❤
In Jon's video he said Guy had "boxes and boxes of blanks" I wonder if he would sell any of those.
@@Jake-bt3fc probably not
You should check out cypress creek knives
Oh trust me- I bug him about getting a Skink all the time!!!!
@@ericasedc he has one on his website right now
Small but mighty! 💪 its a shame but someone has to buy these excess pallets of blanks and machines, maybe a knife collective . 20 people at 10k ??????
Who knows man!
I had preordered “2” knives with Survive knives and now looks like I’m gonna be out $350.00 . So so disappointing . I’ve tried multiple times to contact Guy with no success. I feel bad that this didn’t work out for him , but on the same token I’m really pissed off.
I feel so bad. So many people lost their money. I’m really sorry you did too.
Been waiting 3 years on a TSK $179.00 and 4 years on a GSO 5.1 $275.25
I will be going with CRK Pacific in MagnaCut for my GSO 5.1 and for the TSK I will go with the Toor Serpent. I am pissed
Depending on when you made the purchase you might be able to get a refund through your bank and or PayPal, however you payed.
I submitted a refund request through my bank on 1 of the 2 knives I did not receive and it looks like I’ll be getting the refund. I am going to go in person to dispute the older order. Maybe we don’t need to ask Guy for a refund!!
@@Igor-qi9pg that is great info!
I think you sell yourself short Erica, as far as your influence goes. I’ve noticed several bigger channels using your tag line “ use your s**t” and more channels quoting hrc values. You are impacting the community!
@@claytonfinley488 oh wow really…? I had no idea. That’s really neat!
Man, those are some sweet scales on that PBK knife!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder who made them Anthony! 🤣🥰
@@ericasedc Prolly some doofus...might be me...but definitely a doofus 🤣🤣🤣
@@arrowheadguys7637 You’re too funny
@@ericasedc I have my moments
Erica can you also link the Creely video addressing the Magnacut claims that Guy has made and, based on the video I watched a few hours ago, continues to blame for the business going under? I find it very suspicious his response video has zero comments for one and also that he's continuing to blame an issue which he has never proven and that the majority of knife maker's have not run into. Guy seems shady AF
I noticed there are no comments. I think if people wanna watch Creely’s video, they can just look it up😊😊😊 I totally am with you on that though
I was one of those thousands of people, it’s messed up that my money is lost or should I say stolen. Guy should have just sent back the money instead of telling people they are coming. I was told if I switch steels it would have been sent out in that month. That was 4 months ago. I ordered my knife December 2022. I understand being in a bad situation but Guy didn’t handle this correctly in anyway whatsoever.
He couldn’t refund it because it was already gone. So sad. I hope he gets the help he needs.
@@ericasedc he should have just been honest with them instead of stringing them along like he did me in the emails.
I know it's not the same, but if want a Slater or Minnow model in K390 from me, I'll give you 20% off. Obviously I can't get your money back but it's something..
@@DustySerpa dude you are beyond generous!!!!!!!
@@DustySerpasorry which knife maker are you again, I may just take you up on that offers
Was the drama with magnacut just a ruse? Or is there truth?
Well…. I think it was both. That is a whole video in itself. Were there voids? Yes. Have they been recreated by a maker in the community? Also yes…
I’ve made a ton of knives in magnacut. It was not like he made it out to be. You need people who can use a grinder well
@@michiganprotection yes. There’s more to it than what was presented
I looked into them and got bad juju from the business model.
@@darvinclement8404 yeah it’s a little over kill
If mom would’ve just SERVED her spaghetti, they probably would’ve SERVived.
Ok that cracked me up
Erica, the Knife Saint
Far from it!😂
Say what you want about other knife makers. At least you got the knife. Geez😬
Thanks for watching!
@@ericasedc yeah of course. Sorry I’m way behind on this topic and just don’t have the info to make a better comment.
@@CorpseGrin that’s totally fine!!!
What about GSO 5.1
@@vincentrufolo6943 no one is getting anything
@@vincentrufolo6943 everything is getting liquidated
I meant to say any other knife that's out there like the gso 5.1 available
@@vincentrufolo6943 oooh you can have something custom made close to it by Northern Knife Works I bet!
Survive!- wellll......
Right… 😓🤣
I can't believe this. Now it's going to cost me $1000.00 for a GSO 5.1
Or you can opt for a different knife. I know it’s not the same. 😓
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❤❤
Great video, and thank you so much for doing this. I'm a maker, but an enthusiast as well, and had two knives pre-ordered with Survive. Was really looking forward to them, out about $400 🫤 It's really a shame how this is playing out 😮💨
I’m so sorry you won’t get them😢
Erica, a serious, but a sensitive question perhaps, but an important one, i think. How do you cope with nasty sexist comments? Can imagine there are a few less nice comments on a woman being an expert on this topic. Strange mindsets are all around.
@@tomt5745 oh I get them all the time. I delete them and block the person. End of story!
@@ericasedc Perfect reaction. 👍🤓 Hope it does not affect you reading crap.
@@tomt5745 I’ve learned it’s just part of the game
Talented maker just dishonest and lazy.
@@brr8888 I know 😔
sell me that EDC 2.7 he sent you a few months ago 😉
Got it for free so absolutely not flipping it for profit. And it’s not going anywhere anyway haha
@@ericasedc its a hard one to track down for sure 😂
They did not… survive…
@@Herpetile correct haha
I knew guy had problems with manufacturing that resulted from having an under-developed process and bad pricing model.
But I never imagined that a huge part of it was that 80% of the work had to go through one guy who only worked half the time.
The whole thing is so sad
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
@@billvan5219 🥰🥰
Good video. Stay on the high rd no need to get dragged into all the .....
Truth!🎉
I hope all the stories you researched were accurate because you might be basing your opinions on some fake news. Don't want to see you get grief for your comments if they aren't based on accurate facts.
It sounds like you commented on the wrong video. Thanks for accidentally stumbling across this one and commenting though! I appreciate it.
You became invested because Steve did. Let’s be real here😂💀
@@optimuscrime608 wait what? I got a Survive knife way before he did. No idea what you’re talking about.