Ep. 185 Punky Meadows from ANGEL Joins Us & Vinnie Vincent is All His Fault!
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- Episode 185, July 5, 2016. Punky Meadows lead guitarist with KISS Casablanca Records label mates Angel joins us this week. Punky talks about Gene/KISS discovering the band. What it was like being on Casablanca Records. The Angel live show. His invite to audition for KISS, replacing Ace Frehley, and exactly what happened during that audition. Even what character he jokingly mentioned to KISS he might become. Lots of KISS, Angel and rock n roll talk this week.
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I really like how he mentions that while they're following was not huge, the followers that angel had were extremely loyal and passionate about the band and the music. and the fact that Punky said he's grateful for that tells a lot about his character. Very cool down to earth guy.
Very nice interview. I love to hear Punky talk about the '70s. One thing I always like about Angel was that they loved and appreciated their fans. You didn't see a lot of arrogant behavior. Those guys are survivors. Angel had such a mystique and mystery about the band. So great to finally hear Punky tell all these great stories.
Hands down, the best episode yet!!! I'm a long time Angel fan, but I now have a whole new level of love and respect for Punky! He is awesome! I'm getting his CD asap.
Best interview ty. Punky with ace is the reason i picked up a guitar! Awesomeness!
I remember back in the day ppl said punky was ace without make up lol.
He would of been perfect in kiss
Discovered this interview after the fact, really enjoyed it. Always loved Angel. Got Punky Meadows Fallen Angel, and it blew me away. It, and Ace Frehley Spaceman, are my favorite records of the last decade. Both represent, to me , artists at the best yet, and still getting better.
Punky..............if you're reading this: WRITE A BOOK! I know tons of people that would buy it! Guys: Thanks for having Punky on! Great interview! Great stories!
Another great episode. Thank you Michael, Mark and Tommy.
Brutal!!! He just said he was in the studio for 4 days with Hendrix and you don't stop him???
Thank god Punky brought it back up! ugh!
It's obvious he wanted to talk about it, but they just let it breeze by BOTH TIMES! Not Kissy enough I guess...
Usually they’re more concerned with their cell phones or chewing potato chips loudly.
Punky is hitting the meth pipe here, eh? Good lord.
PUNKY is the MAN!
Wow! This episode really resonated with me. I loved Angel! Saw them in March, 79 at the Civic Center Theater, in St. Paul, MN (where the Roy Wilkins now stands) They were awesome! Incredible show! Caught a guitar pick at that show, which I still have! I dug listening to your conversation with Punky. Interesting guest. Great guitarist. Seems like a really cool guy. Brought back a lot of great memories. Thanks boys.
Let me add that Punky is probably the most down to earth cat ever as far as rock stars go. I have been in in contact with him for going on 20-25 years and let me say that he is just the coolest guy. So awesome that he made a comeback and that it has been received so well.
I liked Vinnie in KISS, Mark (RIP) was a ''bumblebee'' type player and i think we only had to deal with his crap so to speak after he left. because it was only after the fact that we started to hear all of his crazy stuff After Ace Vinnie was the best guitarist in KISS. !!!!!!!!!
Thank you guys for having Punky on! I was only somewhat aware of Angel back in the day but after watching this episode, we checked their stuff out and really wish I'd been exposed to them back in the day. They're great!
Whether it was the right decision or not to join KISS, Punky remained loyal to himself. To me, that shows that Punky has integrity and it's not just all about the money and fame.
This interview is a great testimony as to what a wonderful guitar player Punky is. Despite the questionable production of the Angel albums, people still loved Punky's guitar solos. It's a shame they weren't able to pick their own producer or produce their own recordings. Still they should be very proud and they have nothing to be ashamed of.
The only badly produced Angel album is On Earth As It Is In Heaven, and that was down to Eddie Kramer strangling the drums into submission. The other albums (especially the first 2) are very well produced.
Michael, your audio is always so much louder than the others it makes it difficult to listen to the show.
Great interview Punky! You have an amazing insight to music.
Does anyone know the name of the solo album Punky's referring to? I would love to purchase it.
Fallen Angel is a great album
PUNKY should write a book/Bio!! lot of great stories..of the 70's rock scene!...the Bill Aucoin story was indeed funny .
Vinnie was great in Kiss.
JAKE E. LEE, hell yeah, bro! One of the most underrated guitarists.
I absolutely agree with You He is a terrific guitar player and a excellent song writer.I met Him at the New York KISS Konvention in 1994 and He was a super nice and down to earth Guy. I sent away for His E.P. and He sent Me not only the CD signed but a blue folder with 8×10's all signed a bunch of guitar picks and a hand written letter.The cool part was the 8×10's were in makeup from the "Creatures Tour".It's a shame all the crazy stories overshadow His talent.The Guy I met at the Konvention sounds so different than the person We hear crazy stories about.
Vinnie Vincent is probably one of the worst so called professional guitar players to pick up a guitar!!!! and his songs we're utter shit!!!! Bruce kulick ran circles around him!!!
Probably because one of his legs is shorter than the other and both of his feets was too long.
SgtTravisBickle of course now right along with em .
He's got no natural rhythm.
But he goes dancin every night .
Hoping one day to get it right .
He's a .......dancin fool .........
Great show guys!!!
Vinnie if you read this, don`t listen. You were great in Kiss...
Think Jerry Garcia said it best when he was asked about people liking their music:
“We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”
That can be said about many of the fans of many different bands...including KISS. It is hard to have an objective discussion on music as it is hard to overcome our subjective opinions due to the emotional and visceral response that music can bring to those who listen.
Stumbled across the new Jeff Beck Album "Loud Hailer" today (I know it is not KISS related, but it is just adding to Mark's point about chocolate. This is an exotic dark chocolate with hints of cinnamon, nutmeg, smoked Serrano peppers and a hint of cilantro). and would have to say if Tommy should listen to any Jeff Beck Album, this is it as there are vocals throughout. I cannot believe that a 72 year old man has this much modern musical sensibility. Rosie Bone's vocals definitely adds a different dimension to his music....and he has not lost one bit of his chops. Try it out Michael, Tommy, and Mark as I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Can easily see a Grammy nomination coming for something off this Album.
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Seen Angle 1975 Toledo OH. they kicked ass Magical show. Talking Holograma. 10,000 screamin fans strong on there feet i was 20 ft from stage man them where the Daze
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I missed this episode and have just got around to catching it now......I,d heard of Punky Meadows name but never really heard his music.....its great to find something that you missed along the way....Punky sounds like a great guy with some great stories...i will certainly check his music out....not wanting to stereo type 70,s Rock stars but seems like Punky got through the 70,s rock scene with all his brain cells intact......also was surprised with the discussion at the end about ...THE ANGELS....great Aussie band.....they are still getting around....only 2 original members are the guitarists.......they put out some fantastic rock......great show guys
Should've asked him about Punky's Whips. It was hilarious when Frank Zappa used to make fun of him lol.
A Really Really good episode this week Guys!! I cannot emphasize that enough! Punky was a absolutely terrific guest. I really love His new album and I am so glad He is back in the game again. Such a terrific guitar player and He seemed so nice and down to earth during the interview. His playing, look and stage posturing has been such a major influence on so many Bands especially in the 80's. A true Rock star and a great musician, Mark I always heard Blackmore in His playing too especially in His new single "Straight Shooter" that has a really nice Rainbow feel to it. He's got a really good singer in His Band! I totally would have loved for Him to take over after Ace, He has a similar classic style of playing and shares alot of the same influences plus His stage performances would have fit in with KISS's love for showmanship! Out of KISS'S roster of opening acts I would have to stay in the 70's and go with Blue Oyster Cult and Cheap Trick as a alternative for B.O.C. I would love to see SWEET (they might fit in better with Cheap Trick). Imagine hearing "Windy City","Southern Girls",and "Detroit Rock City " all in one show! Great show Guys!!!!! AAAAA++++!!!!!!! -Andy.😈
Great show as always. I haven't heard Punky's new CD but I am going to check it out because of this episode. Would Punky have worked in KISS? Hard to know for sure, but I would have loved to have seen it. Even though Angel was popular, they weren't popular enough for it to be a factor keeping him out of KISS. I also agree with Mark that the first three Angel albums are the best. After that, it just got too generic for me.
My dream farewell KISS tour line-up:
KISS
Cheap Trick
Uriah Heep
Cheap Trick is a no-brainer. If it hadn't been for KISS, I would have never discovered Cheap Trick. They are forever linked in my mind. I add Uriah Heep for two reasons: (1) KISS opened for Heep in 74-75 and Heep opened for KISS in 76-77. (2) My first KISS show was with Heep opening in January of 77, so they hold a special place for me. Not only was it my first KISS show, it made me a Heep fan for life. Plus, they are still active today, although only Mick Box remains from the 70s era of the band.
Ace's laser shooting guitar has become somewhat mythical among the KISS ARMY. I was fortunate to see it used on night one of the Dynasty tour in Lakeland, Fl. That said, have you considered John Elder Robinson for the show?This is the engineer that built the laser guitar that Ace only used once or twice on the Dynasty tour. He also built the Rocket shooters and the New York Groove lighted front panel guitar.I have chatted with him back and forth regarding the laser guitar, he's accesible and friendly. Here is his blog re: Kiss along with his contact info:jerobison.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-kiss-guitars-now-and-then-in-words.html
Ok I might have got Angel wrong. A little before my time, I somehow thought they may have been a light pop rock act... After this I went and watched The Tower video clip, and wow...Sounds like mid era Rush, or Deep Purple. I'll be having to check out more!
Is there a reason why Punky Meadows doesn't appear in the normal Skype video format? The last couple of episodes are amazing, keep up the great work! \m/
It sounds as if there was a mutual respect between KISS and ANGEL Whether it was the right decision or not, you have to respect Punky for his loyalty to his current band members at the time (rather than just up and leave to join KISS). It sounds as if deep down, Paul and Gene were hurt that Punky didn't jump at the chance to join KISS. Usually, under that anger is some sadness or hurt. But again, I have to respect Punky's loyalty to his original band members at that time.
With Eddie Van Halen it was the opposite story. In 1983 he was getting fed up with Dave Lee Roth and asked Gene Simmons whether could he join Kiss. Simmons refused. Can you imagine if Eddie Van Halen played with Kiss? They would have blown everybody else into oblivion.
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I never knew that. That would have been unreal. Gene Simmons probably refused because he knew Eddie would have stolen the show.
@@lamontprospect9974 Which is why he he never wanted Angel to tour with Kiss! They were the only group that could compete with them.
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Punky's latest album, I think it's Dark Angel? I love that CD. Although I'm guessing KISS outsold Angel by quite a bit. But I suppose maybe that's because they were together longer. Still, I've heard that most of the music by KISS was pretty simplistic. The music by Angel had a little more substance I think.
@@lamontprospect9974 There is a CD called Fallen Angel, available on Escape Music and released in 2016. (This interview is 6 years old!) I don't know whether there is a CD called Dark Angel, but there is a new Angel album called Risen with a re-recording of The Tower. And as for comparing the music of Kiss to Angel, you are absolutely correct! Read my comment below.
As a Kiss fan myself I have to admit that Angel WERE the better band musically.
Thumbs 👍 up from me!! AEROSMITH ALERT ⚠️ in the 9th minute!! 'Would you look at the time ⏲️ '!! Blue Kool-Aid Drinker. Peace ✌️ out from the Southern Tip of Vancouver Island 🏝 , B.C. Canada ⛱️ 🇨🇦.
Why, oh why couldn't we have been blessed with some video feed from Punky? This is a terrific interview, but it's lacking one thing. Where's that insolent pouting rictus? :-o
Homework: "It's not fun unless you could make it work"? Yeah, that describes every dream scenario never! KIϟϟ, Cheap Trick & The Plasmatics. My fantasy, my rules!
Eddie Kramer did a great job on the ''Brownsvile Station'' lp of '77 and the Foghat '''Stone Blue'' a year later..
Are you going to do another show , like the one you were plugging? The one at the Heavy Metal Grill ?
I fucking love your shirt, Mike! xD
Word on that...:)
"On Earth As It Is In Heaven" is their best.
20:30 - Punky is about to answer the question asked, and then Mark doesn't let him answer. :-/
That would have made perfect sense to have Punky Meadows in KISS after Ace left the band …… That was a great story . Thanks 3 sides
I'm so glad you can slow down te speed on youtube nowadays
1 hour 12 minutes in, I know Mark is thinking 'Oh Boy, would you look at the time'
Kind of funny , people seems to hate VV , I seen him a couple of times with Kiss ( with and without make up) , I seen Kiss during the 70's , I seen just about everyone back then Grand Funk , Foghat , even was in Oakland to see Lynard. So as a musician myself ( retired 2008 from playing) , I like the music , guitars , bass ect , not for who was a dirt bag , the music , Richie Blackmore is a douche in many people , but I will see him for the music and watch and hear. No one seems to get it. Shame.
great show guys after watching i got my guitar out and learned the tower;great song.punky seems like a trip like to jam with that guy.side note what do you guys think of the set list for the new kiss tour?im not happy but ill still go.i read it and thought tommy is going are you kidding me?lol
It also sounds as if Angel did not succumb to all the recreational activities that ultimately ended a lot of the careers and lives of some of the musicians from the '70s.
How does Tommy like Pop Rock and not like keyboards? That doesn't make sense. Keys are the key ingredient in most pop rock. Outstanding interview though. Just shut up and let us hear Punky rant. After all these years, he has a lot to say.
fix audio a touch..great interview none the less...great work guys...long time listener but the first time to comment.
The Angels (Australian) band, The Lead singer Doc Neeson passed away a year or so ago and another original member has lost his battle with cancer. The Angels with the lead singer of another top OZ rock band " The Screaming Jets" check them out .. "Better" is one of their best songs/hits.. now fronts The Angels and they are touring around Australia.. They are fantastic still....
A great episode !!
my tour would be kiss,iron maiden,cheap trick.with kiss using the creatures tour stage.yes punky would have saved kiss.the songs are really good on his new album.the guy can play and write;plus kool attitude.
I remember seeing the reunion show in Moline in 1996. Then, I saw the Venom reunion show in Milwaukee in 1997. No comparison. Venom blew them away visually. You may not like Venom but they kill it visually.
Another great show guys I checked out the Straight Shooter song off Punky's new cd sounds awesome. I loved the Angels shoutout too Mark incredible band still played on radio a lot here in Australia. Am I Ever Gonna See Your Face Again No Way Get Fucked Fuck Off haha. All us Aussies will understand that
"He just kinda wigged out. No pun intended." 😂LMAO
Great interview but volumes brutal.
The continued push by dude on the left of "You vs. KISS" questions was a bit much. There was no conspiracy there, relax. lol PS VV wrote co-wrote some great KISS stuff WTF??
Vinnie wrote the stuff. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley edited his stuff so they could get co-author credits and get paid more. Lol. Vinnie Vincent was doing Warrior at the same time he was cutting Creatures with Kiss. The Warrior tapes prove he did not need any help from Kiss to write songs. It was the other way around.
Vinnie wrote the stuff. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley edited his stuff so they could get co-author credits and get paid more. Lol. Vinnie Vincent was doing Warrior at the same time he was cutting Creatures with Kiss. The Warrior tapes prove he did not need any help from Kiss to write songs. It was the other way around.
what I don't understand, and I know this has nothing to do with punky. why doesn't kiss do a center stage tour. I've said it a thousand times. oh man the potential, just watch Metallica, thru the never
can this guy stop talking so mark can speak?
And you are gone. And won't be missed.
Watched this to hear Punky. Didn't mind hearing HIM talk. That was the point.
I really love the show, but you guys have to get your audio levels together. They are all over the place.
Nothing we can do about it.
@@MichaelBrandvold Yes there is, but youre an old man so we get it
@@JudasPriestSUCKS no you are a clueless man so you have no idea what you are talking about.
I saw Angel with Mothers Finest and Mahogany Rush and Humble Pie. It was the tour they didn't wear white and it was weirdly disappointing when they came out in regular clothes. It really took away from their stage presence.
Talking about the farewell tour i would have rather just have KISS play and have it be a longer set with songs they rarely played live. When i saw the farewell tour here in the Twin Cities i wasn't upset about how they were onstage it was just another show and nothing special about it for me. Plus for me it would be very hard for them to top my first KISS show which was back December 1976 still the best KISS show ever
producer for next kiss album if they do one should be Bob. I want another psycho circus. I love that album
Bob didn't produce that album
ezrin
Why would you talk over the guest - continually!
Why would you offer your opinion when you have never done podcast with a guest on the phone?
i know it was Bruce but Bob ezrin could do that for them
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I agree with Mark; however, I think "sophisticated " is the wrong term. I think "technical" or "technician" may be what you guys are shooting for. For example, Vinnie Vincent is a more technically accomplished guitarist than Ace, but I prefer Ace's playing. Aerosmith may be more technically proficient as a band, but people may like Kiss more. Being technical does not equate to superior art. Just examine Y. Malmsteen.
It's obvious why his clothes were always white.
Punky BOTOX Meadows......PUNKY'S WHIPS!!!!! VINCENT CUSANO
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Vinnie Vincent whips Angel the whole band including sideman punky.
Cheap Trick and Blue Oyster Cult. There is a difference between sophisticated and complicated. Usually simple songs are more sophisticated.Of course there are pseudo intellectual bad science fiction songs.Kiss' new stage ...have you seen it? Nothing. Tommy singing Shock Me is bullshit! Eric singing Beth is stupid! They seem bored and distracted.Ticket sales? WE will see.I do like to know about ticket sales because Kiss is my team.Although,I think the whole army thing is dumb. I get the feeling Punky thinks Bon Jovi is great. I hate Bon Jovi all the way.SUCKS!!!! Many CHICKS love Rob Zombie; I know this because I worked in a strip club and all the strippers loved Rob Zombie. Kiss right now seem bored and even depressed. Damn let's do something because they becoming boring.I love Kiss and want them to be creative and imaginative again. Punky, you were never on the same level as Gene or Paul.
Well....that was all over the place
To much coffee, but my heart was in it.
+Scott Davis lmao i know the feeling. And btw, you're right about the strippers. Not just Zombie, also Manson, Disturbed, many others
I worked in a strip club and got free drinks and unfortunately free medications. They all liked Kiss too. Insane.
Big Angel fan, but honestly, Punky's CD is absolutely horrible, embarrassingly bad.