a quasi-Pythagorean identity

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2022
  • Playing with triangles: a quasi-Pythagorean identity. I highlight a beautiful identity coming from geometry, which has to do with equilateral triangles and complex numbers. This has been inspired by a Tweet by Steven Strogatz from Cornell University. For this, we use Euler's formula and rotations, and some very simple algebra. This is a must see for anyone who likes math and education and hard geometry problems with elegant solutions. It is reminiscent of the Pythagorean theorem a^2 + b^2 + c^2 and the binomial formula
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Komentáře • 24

  • @pwmiles56
    @pwmiles56 Před rokem +4

    Slightly less elegantly one can demonstrate rotational and translational invariances. Translate by arbitrary d and we have the identity
    (a+d)^2 + (b+d)^2 + (c+d)^2 - (a+d)(b+d) - (b+d)(c+d)- (c+d)(a+d)
    = a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - ab - bc - ca
    = 0
    For rotational and scaling invariance multiply each point by arbitrary w. We have the identity
    (wa)^2 + (wb)^2 + (wc)^2 - (wa)(wb) - (wb)(wc) - (wc)(wa)
    = w^2(a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - ab - bc - ca)
    = 0
    So we can take the case a = 1, b=1/2 + i sqrt(3)/2, c=1/2 - i sqrt(3)/2
    a^2 = a
    b^2 = c
    c^2 = b
    ab = b
    bc = a
    ca = c
    and the result follows

  • @synaestheziac
    @synaestheziac Před rokem +4

    I think part of the reason some people are getting confused is that hearing the word “Pythagorean” and seeing the squares of a, b, and c might make it seem like those are the side lengths

  • @JR13751
    @JR13751 Před rokem

    It works for triangle made with 3 roots of unity.
    It works for any rotation/dilation about origin. Or multiplying by a constant.
    It works for any translation. Or adding a constant to each point.

  • @Drbob369
    @Drbob369 Před rokem +1

    Compile all these math procedures and processes into a book or website

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen Před rokem

    😮

  • @General12th
    @General12th Před rokem +1

    Hi Dr. Peyam!
    Pythagoras's mind would have exploded if he could have seen complex numbers and how they help relate geometry to algebra.

  • @misterdubity3073
    @misterdubity3073 Před rokem +1

    Neat! I always laugh at the "marker drop"

  • @FromTheMountain
    @FromTheMountain Před rokem

    I think it would have been helpful to state when each of the two cases at the start applies. If I understood correctly, the first case happens when the points a, b, c occur in clockwise order in the triangle, whereas the second case happens when they occur in counterclockwise order. Either way, the transformation you need to perform to get from y to x is the same as the transformation needed to go from z to y, which is why x/y = y/z. I wonder if there is also a purely algebraic approach, starting from simply |a - b| = |a - c| = |b - c| and then working your way to the identity.

  • @romanbohac6722
    @romanbohac6722 Před rokem

    Very nice ;-)

  • @minimath5882
    @minimath5882 Před rokem

    Pythagoras would be proud!

  • @tw5718
    @tw5718 Před rokem

    Weird. If it's an equilateral triangle, all angles are 60 deg. a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 3a^2 = 3b^2 = 3c^2 = .5a^2 -17.5b^2 + 2ab + pi*ac +(18-pi)bc

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před rokem +1

      But a b c are not the length of the sides, just the coordinates of the points

    • @tw5718
      @tw5718 Před rokem

      Ahh. I rewatched and I originally misunderstood the statement at the beginning about the vertices and using angles. I thought you were saying a b c were the angles. My brain went duh. Thanks for the reply and videos.

  • @godfreypigott
    @godfreypigott Před 5 měsíci

    *WRONG.* You introduced a, b, c, x, y, z as complex numbers, and then treated them as real.

  • @itssurge7946
    @itssurge7946 Před rokem

    I don’t get it

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před rokem

      ?

    • @TheNetkrot
      @TheNetkrot Před rokem

      @@drpeyam I don't get it either, I cant understand the vector addition you propose in the beginning, it seem odd or incorrect which I doubt coming from you. Thanks for the video anyway.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před rokem

      It’s correct, here a b c are coordinates of the vertices

    • @itssurge7946
      @itssurge7946 Před rokem

      What in the world is a complex number

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před rokem

      😂

  • @sonnypring2151
    @sonnypring2151 Před rokem

    Am I the only person who knows 4pi/3 is larger than pi the angle of a straight line. So there is some mistake