Gjeebs I just got mine for almost $200 less than that. At first was skeptical, but I received it. TrueBlue is legit. I'll post a link below. Also, with you installing the tune yourself, doesn't that void the warranty? If it didn't, how did you get around that? They say you need to have a Ford Dealer install to maintain a warranty, and even then, it's lowered to 36k 36month... www.trueblueracingparts.com/2013-2017-FOCUS-ST-CALIBRATION-WITH-SPARK-PLUGS_p_514.html
i was literally about to link these guys, just ordered mine from them lol. And he got writing from ford saying he was good to install himself since he was promoting the product and theyd honor his warranty.
This is finally available for the 2018, not sure exactly when that happened but I've been checking Ford's website every couple days since I bought my 2018 ST last May. Yesterday I was finally able to buy it! Thanks for the videos man, keep 'em coming.
So, I bought the 2017 Ford focus ST in Kona Blue and am loving the drive and feel of a new vehicle. Again, thank you for your awesome reviews on this particular vehicle. I guess it's a different review from the others because you own this vehicle yourself, as others just drive it for a review. It makes a difference when you actually own the vehicle and drive it everyday.
Just as a general comment on the whole ( friendly ) "Focus ST vs Fiesta ST" Videos on CZcams, I drove a Fiesta ST for the first time yesterday. It really is as fun and tossable as everyone says online, but for me, I like the much nicer interior, extra power and interior room of the Focus ST. In fact, I'm going to possibly trade in my G37 for a super clean 2013 Focus ST2 tomorrow at a dealer. Take care fellow ST Drivers !! Long live the Manual Transmission !! :-)
The tune is great my car had the entire frpp on the car when I bought it half a year ago. The 55 year old man before had it installed at the dealer I bought it at. But now the warranty is up and is time to go stage 3! But overall anything Ford performance sells is great and amazing quality that if someone had no idea what they were driving would think this car came like this from the factory. Plus the exhaust is made by borla which is the hands down the best exhaust company in my opinion.
I have the same tires, tune and exhaust as you. I made all the same choices. Dude this tune though......should have come stock for sure. Stock tune feels wayyyyy to conservative after this flash. Soooooo much more pull and the road definitely goes by noticeably quicker- Feels like a whole second faster to 60 or the quarter.
I got the mountune power upgrade for my Fiesta for the same reasons you did: Engineered, warranty-friendly performance that won't affect reliability. Man, what a difference!
I must say the FRPP calibration is actually pretty damn good. I don't remember if you've done 1 step colder plugs but if not I'd definitely get them done. I myself have opted to go full aftermarket stage 3 with my 17 ST but in doing so I'm also not expecting Ford to do anything for me if it let's go. Just keep about 5k in savings just in case haha. Glad to see you're enjoying the car man, curious since you're about done with what you can do power wise what else is in store for the future.
I put the Ford racing tune on my '17 St and the shifts were the same for me. The torque steer is the same if not slightly worse. I have the mountune rmm and Cobb exhaust on mine. The torque increase is awesome! I believe this is more a combo of street/track tune. I'd like to see some dyno #s. I have the Ford performance air filter and snorkel coming for mine as well. I also want to upgrade my intercooler. But so far I like the Ford calibration tune! As a FYI you get a reduced warranty from 5/60 to 3/36. That's on ford performance website regarding the calibration. I think a reduced warranty is better than no warranty, especially when it comes to tunes.
Great video as always! I had a bad experience with Ford Performance tunes (formerly Ford Racing) when I had my 2011 5.0. The tune gave me terrible ping/pre-detonation and my AFRs were dangerously lean which is probably why my fuel efficiency increased. Even after calling Ford Racing, they told me all this was “normal” so I immediately took that off and can’t seem to trust them again with considering this for my ST... Also, to my knowledge, this warranty doesn’t piggy back on your existing, it usually replaces it with Ford Racing’s own warranty for 3/36 from time of vehicle purchase (not install date) so better make sure you have all that in writing. I am sure your experience will be fine but I remember having the same mentality as you going with Ford over aftermarket because I felt safer thinking it was “OEM” and was sorely disappointed. Good luck though and be sure to report back after you’ve logged some more miles! 👍
I had this tune on my car for a year and was never really a fan of it all in my face down low, so I pro tuned it. I went from a power loss, yes loss 212 whp 309wtq on the FRPP calibration to 250whp and 356wtq with a pro tune. Same mods and same dyno. Just sharing my real world experience.
As good as always! Hope you're happy with the tune. Didnt know about the 91 octane in the US, In the UK we can get some 97 octane but its like £1.35 a litre..$1.8..so like $8.50 a gallon!..crazy prices.
Rewatched this after a couple years. Still haven’t pulled the trigger on a tune but thanks to Gjeebs for making it easier to choose between the options.
Gjeebs So glad that I have found you on CZcams. I have to say for a focus st owner your video's are great to watch. I have a 2014 st 2 with just over 40k on it here in Northern Ireland. Same colour as your car, performance blue. I am hoping soon to order the 275 mountune kit, also with a ford performance exaust, and new rear engine mount.
I'm gonna have to call bullshit. Everybody knows stickers only add 5HP a piece. Fucking amateurs. 😆😆😆✌️Helpful hint- add speed dimples with a ball peen hammer like a golf ball for maximum aero. 😂
Hey! Just a small tip as I'm in phoenix as well.... Certain costco gas stations have 93 octane here. If you arent a member just get a buddy to buy you a gift card with like 5 dollars on it just to scan and then you can swipe your own card
Is Costco's gas good quality? Like in comparison to shell vpower that I lose a lot of money too haha- I know there's only minimal differences but I just would like your input.
The Weekend Driver I would assume all? The one on 33rd ave to be specific and I know both costcos in Tucson as well as before I moved up here one was right down the street
Kevin Z costco is a top tier brand.... Do a little research and you will find that all top tier gas companies provide the best quality as they have to meet certain standards. They will all have different detergents but for cars like the focus ST or other turbo/performance cars it really does help to run only top tier gas.
The new blow off sound your hear is probably because of the open-end of the performance filter. I started hearing the BOV when I got the Mountune filter without the cap. Sounds great! Thanks for your input on this upgrade!
I have had the open air filter form the beginning so I know what that sounds like but the sound it lets off is different now. Glad you liked the video!
I'm going to state this for everyone. This doesn't void or replace your factory warranty. As I have the extended 100k and 7yrs, all it does is kind of replace some of your power train warranty. Depending on your dealer after Fords racing warranty runs out they may still honor your original new car warranty, it does not get voided. Also this only lends itself to the actual power train, everything else is still covered, ac system, electrical system, body, suspension, literally everything else is still covered unless they can somehow say that your tune broke your window switch or your new air filter caused your ac compressor to crap out. An as someone stated in here partially correct, because of the Magnuson act nothing at all voids your warranty, they may be able to deny a certain.claim, but even still, they have to like the one person said prove beyond doubt that something you did or changed caused the issue. And when you have just as many people with a stock car having the same problem as a car with aftermarket parts on it who's to say what caused it?
Pumpkinspicelatte 17 not true. i just went through a blown engine with this tune in my 2014 focus st. warranty goes from 60k to 36k .even if you have the 100k mile extended warranty it puts it to 36k/powertrain. they explain this on the website ford racing. the magnussen act is if its within the warranty time and they deny based on grounds your aftermarket part or mod ruined the part or parts in question, they have the obligation and responsibilty of proving it. also There is no accessport to this kit, your laptop is your access. clunky and dangerous and inconvienient. mine is shattered for this reason...cobb accessport is the way to go anyway. this just spikes the boost sooo much its not safe. there is a good reason they cut the warranty. the rest of the car and some internals and seals are not really happy with the extra torque, at least not for extended periods of time. gimic novelty car i call it. def not any type of race car. just a complex grocery getter with extra useless torque. fun though, but only so much tire spinning and torque steering 2nd gear pulls while spinning one can do before getting bored. brakes fade fast, stock suspension is weak, macpherson struts crap) and the ecoboost engine is expensive, tempormental, and borderline reliable.
My Mountune catback is a straight-through design that I like alot. D-Sport online magazine did a before and after dyno test on it and it was good for 22 WHP(!) because the nearly silent stock exhaust is so restrictive. The Ford Performance (Borla?) muffler sits sideways in the same spot behind the bumper where the stock muffler was. My Mountune unit sounds a little quieter than the Ford one but the torque numbers on the Ford setup are impressive. I also think that the rear-mounted muffler may work with the simple diffuser design on the ST to smooth airflow emerging from under the car, helping to fill the low pressure zone behind the hatch and cutting drag. The Mountune exhaust can't do that. It just has the tail pipe poking out of the rear bumper.
i got this tune. All i have gotten is people telling me how bad it is compared to a cobb ap3 and a diff tune. This tune seems to shoot the boost up to 25lbs, without any other mods provided. People will be dealing with heak soak non stop. Also i blew my motor within 15k miles with this tune. ringlands dont like that boost spike. The cobb boosts less but seems to be able to put down power just as well. I think the Procal is a stage 2 ish tune with no intercooler and instead they offer an exhaust that gives little to no difference in power. Grrrrrr. Heat soak is an issue in these until you change intwrcooler yet that voids the warranty. Its set up to keep your warranty yet is also set up for a heavy pull now and then, and thats it. Heat and these small turbos, and direct injection really creats heat. Why they wouldnt put the intercooler as part of the for racing kit I have no idea.
@@sb731968 well we put in another motor. It wasnt cheap, new turbo to go along with it, coilovers, and new tires and some other odds and ends. Got a major humm at the front of the car. Not sure what it is. Its either the carrier bearing on passenger side cv axle or the carrier bearing on the inside of tranny where cv axles connect. Or maybe something else all together but its annoying and makes the car feel slow and handles wierd because of it. Hopefully I can get the bugs worked out. Going back to shop to get everything checked. I ended up finding a handtight oil drain bolt, many couplers on the intake not in place correctly, and bolts not tightend correctly. Theres a chance being lowered with stock wheels and hubcentric spacers 20mm and 25mm rear that the new coilovers being installed that the wheels are out of balence and or alignment. Hard to believe it would make that much hum though. But maybe.
Gjeebs Love your channel. I have recently purchased my first performance car which I got the 2018 Ford Focus ST 3. I was curious and sorry if you already mentioned this, but did you attend the ST academy when you got your ride back in 2016? I have had the car a little over a couple weeks and the car has dropped 20 years off my life. I feel young again, I must say you videos are very professional and you do a great job in informing your audience. What is your next ride? Thanks again for all you do on your channel. Did I hear correctly off a forum that the Ford Performance exhaust that you upgraded to is part of Borla? Are they basically the same exhaust? Thanks..
Always like your videos right away you do a great job. I'm not planning on buying a st anytime soon. Lol I have 2 car payments and 3 years left on both. 2014 focus hatchback and 2015 mitsubishi gt. My daughter is 16 and getting her license and I want her to have a good, reliable first car. So I'm giving her my focus. What am I gonna drive? I'm gonna buy a trans am or camaro with ls1 (1998 to 2002) for $$$. After my to current loans are paid off, ill finance a new ride. Focus st always has a special place in my heart. Keep doing what you do. You deserve all your sibscribers bro
I believe to get the Ford Performance warranty the tune must be installed by a Ford dealer or ASE certified mechanic. Also doesn't the tune include cooler spark plugs?
Ford Performance and mountune Performance Packs and Components are warrantied for factory-supplied material or workmanship when correctly and completely installed on a late model Ford vehicle by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer, Shelby American, Inc., mountune LLC or an automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE).
I also added the Ford Racing tune with the CAI. It came with a set of cooler plugs and the ProCal II Unit that could be returned for a $75 refund (I kept it.). Horse power and torque increase was very noticeable. Gas mileage went down a few miles per gallon but only 2 MPG on the highway I now get 30 MPG driving very conservatively. My ST3 is a 2013 with just 22.6K on the clock so mileage is not really a factor. My track day experience before and after was not significant. Top speed on the front straight in Fontana was 126 MPH (GPS indicated using Harry's Laptimer) before and 123 MPH after (also GPS indicated). The FRPP also changed a few of the warning lights in the speedo/dash. Install performed by local SuperPerformance (cobra/shelby dealer).
Michael - I assume you are referring to the ProCall II unit. I'm not sure ... I don't plan to do anything more to the car. Just tires, gas and driving. I really enjoy the car.
Love your videos. Quick question about a couple of your upgrades. Would you recommend doing the Mountune intake before the FRPP tune or the other way around?
saw you were still replying to comments. did this affect the reliability? i’m planning to buy a used ST at 100k miles, mostly stock except for the ford performance tune. i’ve heard stories about peoples engines blowing with this tune (and others, and none!) just wondering if you had any advice for this.
I know this might be a dumb question but how do I buy this off the performanceparts.ford website? I see the product through the link but don't see where it actually allows me to purchase. Appreciate the help
I have the ford performance exhaust put on so if you look closely at the tips Henry Ford himself busted a fat load all over it for maximum gains adding a total of 9 horse torques
The only bad thing with the tune is the heat soak after 2 or 3 good pulls. This setup definitley wont fly on the track without FMIC upgrade and you still have to adress brakes (and no hawk pads alone wont fix it). You need a big brake kit or at the very leasr slotted rotors and better pads. 130 to 0 one good time and you will hear the dreaded pulsing...waiting patiently to get my brakes back...how frustrating.
I am definitely interested in this tune/calibration, especially since it's by Ford Performance. Looking forward to your update! Do you plan on upgrading your intercooler down the road?
Anybody have to take the tune off and put the factory one back on with this port system? Would love some guidance on how to do this if anyone has an idea.
Great review, I know exactly what you mean between 1-2 and 2-3. Does the tune get rid of that dead zone between 2-3k rpms? Does it keep your 3 year 36k and 5 year powertrain warranty as well?
Yes the tune eliminates the dead zone for sure and the shifting feels great. You keep your 36k bumper to bumper but I think powertrain is reduced for 60k to 36k
I am seriously considering getting the Ford Performance ProCal kit for my '16 ST, so i do not void my bumper to bumper warranty. My question for you is...is it really worth the $600 i would have to shell out for the kit- ProCal calibration tuner and plugs??? Any feedback on this or tips that you could give me about it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. Thanx much!
They like selling mods and tunes at high prices; like the navigation updates at $150 per. They aren't the only ones, of course. The ST was designed to sell at a profit, so a fair amount of upgrading is left to the retail buyer. But the Focus gives you a good platform to work with. Thank goodness for third-party modifications!
Other than the fact that they want more money, the stock ecu can use 87 octane fuel which is cheaper and most people prefer buying regular fuel. Also, this tune likely requires some additional performance hardware to properly handle it. Like performance intercooler, exhaust, intake, cold sparks.
Hey man, Not sure if you noticed by now bot your boos goes significantly higher as well. It's so dramatic I went back to ford to make sure it was done right XD The one thing I didn't like about the upgrade package is the sound.
Do you know if when you perform update. And have dealer do work to vehicle and pcm has a update.. will this be taken off.. after dealership updates my fuel recall..
Great vids bud, I'm from Corpus Christi tx. I just got at 14 St with 47k miles. I want the ford tune,but with all available it's hard to pick one. I just wanna ask if your happy still. I dont wanna burn up the engine,but I understand it happens.
Nice video! By the way I don't think all FRPP and Mountune parts let you keep your ford warranty. Like the rear motor mount or recirc valve aren't covered by ford.
In your video, you say you had the dealership install the "tune" or calibration to avoid voiding the warranty. Yet, your video shows you installing the calibration -- not the dealership. I'm about to buy a 2018 Focus ST3 and I would like to do some upgrades that won't void the warranty. Do I need to have the dealership install the calibration, or can I do it myself?
You must get it done at a Ford or Lincoln dealership. I was able to keep my warranty because I had an agreement with Ford Performance before making this video
Do you have any idea when Ford will release the 2018 Calibration? I bought the kit from trueblueracing and it's for the 2013-2017 only. It will update to the 2018 "soon", something about EPA. Maybe someone knows when the 2017 or 2016 became available. I am willing to bet it's a similar time of the year for each release.
Anyone know how to fix the PCM error? I tried installing it with my dad (who’s a certified ase senior master tech) but when it completes reading the PCM it says null and an error, anyone know what to do??
Willmar Lorente I think the only thing you need is 91+ octane and the cold spark plugs for the tune. The programming allows more adjustment for air flow so it can adjust for different intakes and exhausts
The warranty is not by Ford but by “Ford Performance”, considered a different entity which will cover it. Also, the calibration and plugs must be installed by a participating dealer to validate the warranty.
I contacted Ford before making the video and they are going to honor my warranty because I made this video showcasing their product but in normal circumstances you would be right.
I have a question. Can the frpp tune be reflashed back to stock as many times as i want? I live in Canada and was wondering if it should be put back to stock for winter? It might be to torquee on ice and snow. It probably is fine to drive anyway but i would like to know if I have that option sand is that bad for engine?
Got this tune and a day later my shifter got stuck in third gear. Im pissed cuz I was having so much damn fun but now I dont know what to do. I had to get it towed to my house.
SO THIS IS WEIRD, THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT CAME WITH MY PROCAL4 INSISTED THAT I USE A PC AND NO APPLE PRODUCTS BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS GUY USED A MACPRO LAPTOP
This does not maintain the factory powertrain warranty. It replaces it with a separate Ford Performance warranty that is only good for 3 years/36K miles.
Is this the only kit that comes with the 91+ octane sticker or has Ford been applying them to all the st and rs models? I just purchased a 2016 st and the sticker is there.. I purchased the car used but have no idea if anything was ever done to it. That's why I'm asking
@@Gjeebs good to know.. I thought nothing of it until I saw you put one on your car.. as far as I knew mine was bone stock.. no cai, no exhaust even had factory halogen bulbs and everything.. I wonder if there's a way to find out.. I bought it used at a dodge dealership and I'm sure they don't have an idea
Is there a way I can check and see if this was in fact installed on my car.. I found you can purchase the fuel sticker online but was curious if there's a site or something I can run my vin to see or somewhere in the car to check?
It seems kind of weird to me that the manufacturer of the car would sell you a tune. Seems like it should just have that power from the factory. Almost like DLC. Regardless, 90ft-lbs?!? I'd like to see a video on how bad the torque steer is now.
I get what you're saying but all cars engines have more power locked in them but are tuned for efficiency and reliability. They do this to be conservative. It's just nice Ford offers the software to safely unlock more power
RGBGFIVE but in theory shouldn't this still be reliable since it's covered under warranty? To me it's kind of like a car that has an Eco mode and a Sport or Performance mode but to be able to use it you had to pay an extra fee. Like don't get me wrong, I would probably do it too if I had an ST and I have a tuner for my car. It just seems weird that the manufacturer is selling it to you and covering it under warranty.
There's alot of things to consider as to why Ford did this. #1 is probably Insurance costs. Insurance rates are based on power/torque output. Back in the muscle car era, the big three would often underrate power output to fool the insurance companies. #2 this tune is like any other option.. you have the standard tune and this would be the dealer installed option, its a way to make more money from the people who are willing to buy it. For those that are ok with the lower standard output, or dont have the driving skills or need for the extra power to be forced in to it.
Man oh man I want this tune so bad. I have a new 18 with only 3k miles on it. Think I should wait a bit for the engine to break in. Do you know if removing the sound symposer voids the warranty?
@@Gjeebs thanks for the reply. Great vids btw! I keep going back and forth with performance upgrades and I think my first mod is going to be the mountune full intercooler upgrade, Motormount and air intake. All mountune for warranty and also because they kick ass with these cars!!! Idk, I've read alot about upgrading the intercooler and how it's a must on a turbo charged engine and with the ic being twice the oe size, I can only imagine it will upgrade the stock performance.... wont be long before I do calibration and full exaust. I'm not sure what else I need for the mr300 full performance upgrade but that's my end goal (along with suspension upgrade) It's a lot to do with mountune since they cost a pretty penny, but the truth is I want the extra power on the st as bad as I want to just trade it in for an RS!!!!!
@@Gjeebs I'm considering getting this tune but have seen a couple of people in this comment section say the blew their motor on this tune because it puts out 25 lbs of boost. I wonder if thats too much boost for these cars.
Found is cheaper here: www.cjponyparts.com/ford-performance-calibration-with-cold-spark-plug-set-focus-st-2013-2017/p/M14204FSTA/
Gjeebs I just got mine for almost $200 less than that. At first was skeptical, but I received it. TrueBlue is legit. I'll post a link below. Also, with you installing the tune yourself, doesn't that void the warranty? If it didn't, how did you get around that? They say you need to have a Ford Dealer install to maintain a warranty, and even then, it's lowered to 36k 36month...
www.trueblueracingparts.com/2013-2017-FOCUS-ST-CALIBRATION-WITH-SPARK-PLUGS_p_514.html
i was literally about to link these guys, just ordered mine from them lol. And he got writing from ford saying he was good to install himself since he was promoting the product and theyd honor his warranty.
This is finally available for the 2018, not sure exactly when that happened but I've been checking Ford's website every couple days since I bought my 2018 ST last May. Yesterday I was finally able to buy it! Thanks for the videos man, keep 'em coming.
@george p scammer? Lol whatever you say, kid. 😂
When I watch your vids, they just remind me that my warranty is long gone by now lol
So, I bought the 2017 Ford focus ST in Kona Blue and am loving the drive and feel of a new vehicle.
Again, thank you for your awesome reviews on this particular vehicle. I guess it's a different review from the others because you own this vehicle yourself, as others just drive it for a review. It makes a difference when you actually own the vehicle and drive it everyday.
Just as a general comment on the whole ( friendly ) "Focus ST vs Fiesta ST" Videos on CZcams, I drove a Fiesta ST for the first time yesterday. It really is as fun and tossable as everyone says online, but for me, I like the much nicer interior, extra power and interior room of the Focus ST. In fact, I'm going to possibly trade in my G37 for a super clean 2013 Focus ST2 tomorrow at a dealer. Take care fellow ST Drivers !! Long live the Manual Transmission !! :-)
The tune is great my car had the entire frpp on the car when I bought it half a year ago. The 55 year old man before had it installed at the dealer I bought it at. But now the warranty is up and is time to go stage 3! But overall anything Ford performance sells is great and amazing quality that if someone had no idea what they were driving would think this car came like this from the factory. Plus the exhaust is made by borla which is the hands down the best exhaust company in my opinion.
Yea borla makes an excellent exhaust and it’s cool they worked with ford to produce this exhaust
Absolutely love your ST videos. They've been a great resource in the run-up to me getting an ST. Thank you.
I have the same tires, tune and exhaust as you. I made all the same choices. Dude this tune though......should have come stock for sure. Stock tune feels wayyyyy to conservative after this flash. Soooooo much more pull and the road definitely goes by noticeably quicker- Feels like a whole second faster to 60 or the quarter.
I got the mountune power upgrade for my Fiesta for the same reasons you did: Engineered, warranty-friendly performance that won't affect reliability. Man, what a difference!
Yea I bet it is great in that thing
I must say the FRPP calibration is actually pretty damn good. I don't remember if you've done 1 step colder plugs but if not I'd definitely get them done. I myself have opted to go full aftermarket stage 3 with my 17 ST but in doing so I'm also not expecting Ford to do anything for me if it let's go. Just keep about 5k in savings just in case haha. Glad to see you're enjoying the car man, curious since you're about done with what you can do power wise what else is in store for the future.
I put the Ford racing tune on my '17 St and the shifts were the same for me. The torque steer is the same if not slightly worse. I have the mountune rmm and Cobb exhaust on mine. The torque increase is awesome! I believe this is more a combo of street/track tune. I'd like to see some dyno #s. I have the Ford performance air filter and snorkel coming for mine as well. I also want to upgrade my intercooler. But so far I like the Ford calibration tune! As a FYI you get a reduced warranty from 5/60 to 3/36. That's on ford performance website regarding the calibration. I think a reduced warranty is better than no warranty, especially when it comes to tunes.
Great info pal . Iv had my st3 now for 3 weeks your info is very appreciated. Thanks for MILTON Keynes, uk,,👍😎
Colin Lavery where did you get the FP proCal tune in the UK from?
Seems very rare in the UK.
Great video as always! I had a bad experience with Ford Performance tunes (formerly Ford Racing) when I had my 2011 5.0. The tune gave me terrible ping/pre-detonation and my AFRs were dangerously lean which is probably why my fuel efficiency increased. Even after calling Ford Racing, they told me all this was “normal” so I immediately took that off and can’t seem to trust them again with considering this for my ST...
Also, to my knowledge, this warranty doesn’t piggy back on your existing, it usually replaces it with Ford Racing’s own warranty for 3/36 from time of vehicle purchase (not install date) so better make sure you have all that in writing.
I am sure your experience will be fine but I remember having the same mentality as you going with Ford over aftermarket because I felt safer thinking it was “OEM” and was sorely disappointed. Good luck though and be sure to report back after you’ve logged some more miles! 👍
I had this tune on my car for a year and was never really a fan of it all in my face down low, so I pro tuned it. I went from a power loss, yes loss 212 whp 309wtq on the FRPP calibration to 250whp and 356wtq with a pro tune. Same mods and same dyno. Just sharing my real world experience.
Gregory Schramuk May I ask what do you have on you car as far as the performance package?
As good as always! Hope you're happy with the tune. Didnt know about the 91 octane in the US, In the UK we can get some 97 octane but its like £1.35 a litre..$1.8..so like $8.50 a gallon!..crazy prices.
Adam J your 97 is about the same as our 91 , no real difference you guys just use a different way of measuring it
Ah that’s interesting to know! Learn something new everyday!
Ah that’s interesting to know! Learn something new everyday!
Damn that’s super expensive. Ours is about $3.15 per gallon I’m pretty sure
Omg the sound is so much better! I’m getting this tune ASAP.
Rewatched this after a couple years. Still haven’t pulled the trigger on a tune but thanks to Gjeebs for making it easier to choose between the options.
Gjeebs
So glad that I have found you on CZcams. I have to say for a focus st owner your video's are great to watch.
I have a 2014 st 2 with just over 40k on it here in Northern Ireland.
Same colour as your car, performance blue.
I am hoping soon to order the 275 mountune kit, also with a ford performance exaust, and new rear engine mount.
Well on my 2014 ST I put 8 stickers in total so I figured that was around 80hp..so didnt need a tune for that
A lot of people forget about those gains. Nice work
Pro tip: racing stripes add 5hp per foot. Enjoy!
I'm gonna have to call bullshit. Everybody knows stickers only add 5HP a piece. Fucking amateurs. 😆😆😆✌️Helpful hint- add speed dimples with a ball peen hammer like a golf ball for maximum aero. 😂
@@bidness no these a quality tiawanese made stickers ordered through ebay..dyno tested and proven..website says add these and HP goes all the way up🤙
Well, shit brother, I appreciate you droppin' that little bit of science on me then. I stand corrected.
Hey! Just a small tip as I'm in phoenix as well.... Certain costco gas stations have 93 octane here. If you arent a member just get a buddy to buy you a gift card with like 5 dollars on it just to scan and then you can swipe your own card
I actually do have a membership so that’s awesome to hear. Thank you!
Here in Ontario, Canada we have 94
Is Costco's gas good quality? Like in comparison to shell vpower that I lose a lot of money too haha- I know there's only minimal differences but I just would like your input.
The Weekend Driver I would assume all? The one on 33rd ave to be specific and I know both costcos in Tucson as well as before I moved up here one was right down the street
Kevin Z costco is a top tier brand.... Do a little research and you will find that all top tier gas companies provide the best quality as they have to meet certain standards. They will all have different detergents but for cars like the focus ST or other turbo/performance cars it really does help to run only top tier gas.
I DID THIS MYSELF WITH MY 2019 RANGER, THE ONLY WEIRD THING IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO IT USING A PC, NO Apple Macs ALLOWED TO DO THIS
The new blow off sound your hear is probably because of the open-end of the performance filter. I started hearing the BOV when I got the Mountune filter without the cap. Sounds great!
Thanks for your input on this upgrade!
Agustin De La Hidalga He’s has the filter installed for a while now. My guess is that he’s making more boost and earlier.
I have had the open air filter form the beginning so I know what that sounds like but the sound it lets off is different now. Glad you liked the video!
So if you don't mind me asking, at the end of the day what did you pay for the tune and the install through Ford.
I'm going to state this for everyone. This doesn't void or replace your factory warranty. As I have the extended 100k and 7yrs, all it does is kind of replace some of your power train warranty. Depending on your dealer after Fords racing warranty runs out they may still honor your original new car warranty, it does not get voided. Also this only lends itself to the actual power train, everything else is still covered, ac system, electrical system, body, suspension, literally everything else is still covered unless they can somehow say that your tune broke your window switch or your new air filter caused your ac compressor to crap out. An as someone stated in here partially correct, because of the Magnuson act nothing at all voids your warranty, they may be able to deny a certain.claim, but even still, they have to like the one person said prove beyond doubt that something you did or changed caused the issue. And when you have just as many people with a stock car having the same problem as a car with aftermarket parts on it who's to say what caused it?
Pumpkinspicelatte 17 not true. i just went through a blown engine with this tune in my 2014 focus st. warranty goes from 60k to 36k .even if you have the 100k mile extended warranty it puts it to 36k/powertrain. they explain this on the website ford racing. the magnussen act is if its within the warranty time and they deny based on grounds your aftermarket part or mod ruined the part or parts in question, they have the obligation and responsibilty of proving it. also There is no accessport to this kit, your laptop is your access. clunky and dangerous and inconvienient. mine is shattered for this reason...cobb accessport is the way to go anyway. this just spikes the boost sooo much its not safe. there is a good reason they cut the warranty. the rest of the car and some internals and seals are not really happy with the extra torque, at least not for extended periods of time. gimic novelty car i call it. def not any type of race car. just a complex grocery getter with extra useless torque. fun though, but only so much tire spinning and torque steering 2nd gear pulls while spinning one can do before getting bored. brakes fade fast, stock suspension is weak, macpherson struts crap) and the ecoboost engine is expensive, tempormental, and borderline reliable.
My Mountune catback is a straight-through design that I like alot. D-Sport online magazine did a before and after dyno test on it and it was good for 22 WHP(!) because the nearly silent stock exhaust is so restrictive. The Ford Performance (Borla?) muffler sits sideways in the same spot behind the bumper where the stock muffler was. My Mountune unit sounds a little quieter than the Ford one but the torque numbers on the Ford setup are impressive. I also think that the rear-mounted muffler may work with the simple diffuser design on the ST to smooth airflow emerging from under the car, helping to fill the low pressure zone behind the hatch and cutting drag. The Mountune exhaust can't do that. It just has the tail pipe poking out of the rear bumper.
i got this tune. All i have gotten is people telling me how bad it is compared to a cobb ap3 and a diff tune. This tune seems to shoot the boost up to 25lbs, without any other mods provided. People will be dealing with heak soak non stop. Also i blew my motor within 15k miles with this tune. ringlands dont like that boost spike. The cobb boosts less but seems to be able to put down power just as well. I think the Procal is a stage 2 ish tune with no intercooler and instead they offer an exhaust that gives little to no difference in power. Grrrrrr. Heat soak is an issue in these until you change intwrcooler yet that voids the warranty. Its set up to keep your warranty yet is also set up for a heavy pull now and then, and thats it. Heat and these small turbos, and direct injection really creats heat. Why they wouldnt put the intercooler as part of the for racing kit I have no idea.
How did you blow your motor?
@@sb731968 Ringland in number one piston broken...high boost from Ford Racing Tune, I checked plugs as much as possible, and changed oil a lot.
@@fabjonjon sorry bro, hope everything's better now
@@sb731968 well we put in another motor. It wasnt cheap, new turbo to go along with it, coilovers, and new tires and some other odds and ends. Got a major humm at the front of the car. Not sure what it is. Its either the carrier bearing on passenger side cv axle or the carrier bearing on the inside of tranny where cv axles connect. Or maybe something else all together but its annoying and makes the car feel slow and handles wierd because of it. Hopefully I can get the bugs worked out. Going back to shop to get everything checked. I ended up finding a handtight oil drain bolt, many couplers on the intake not in place correctly, and bolts not tightend correctly. Theres a chance being lowered with stock wheels and hubcentric spacers 20mm and 25mm rear that the new coilovers being installed that the wheels are out of balence and or alignment. Hard to believe it would make that much hum though. But maybe.
Gjeebs Love your channel. I have recently purchased my first performance car which I got the 2018 Ford Focus ST 3. I was curious and sorry if you already mentioned this, but did you attend the ST academy when you got your ride back in 2016? I have had the car a little over a couple weeks and the car has dropped 20 years off my life. I feel young again, I must say you videos are very professional and you do a great job in informing your audience. What is your next ride? Thanks again for all you do on your channel. Did I hear correctly off a forum that the Ford Performance exhaust that you upgraded to is part of Borla? Are they basically the same exhaust? Thanks..
The next ride I have my eyes on is the BMW M2
Yes! Finally a tune!
Did you have to clear any DTCs before doing the tune?
Always like your videos right away you do a great job. I'm not planning on buying a st anytime soon. Lol I have 2 car payments and 3 years left on both. 2014 focus hatchback and 2015 mitsubishi gt. My daughter is 16 and getting her license and I want her to have a good, reliable first car. So I'm giving her my focus. What am I gonna drive? I'm gonna buy a trans am or camaro with ls1 (1998 to 2002) for $$$. After my to current loans are paid off, ill finance a new ride. Focus st always has a special place in my heart. Keep doing what you do. You deserve all your sibscribers bro
I believe to get the Ford Performance warranty the tune must be installed by a Ford dealer or ASE certified mechanic. Also doesn't the tune include cooler spark plugs?
va2054 I believe you are correct.👍🏻
think he done goofed
Any ASE certified technician will suffice. Does not have to be done at the dealer
Ford Performance accepted mine which was done at an independent shop.
Ford Performance and mountune Performance Packs and Components are warrantied for factory-supplied material or workmanship when correctly and completely installed on a late model Ford vehicle by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer, Shelby American, Inc., mountune LLC or an automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE).
I also added the Ford Racing tune with the CAI. It came with a set of cooler plugs and the ProCal II Unit that could be returned for a $75 refund (I kept it.). Horse power and torque increase was very noticeable. Gas mileage went down a few miles per gallon but only 2 MPG on the highway I now get 30 MPG driving very conservatively. My ST3 is a 2013 with just 22.6K on the clock so mileage is not really a factor. My track day experience before and after was not significant. Top speed on the front straight in Fontana was 126 MPH (GPS indicated using Harry's Laptimer) before and 123 MPH after (also GPS indicated). The FRPP also changed a few of the warning lights in the speedo/dash.
Install performed by local SuperPerformance (cobra/shelby dealer).
Is that only for certain upgrades of can you fine tune it when you do more upgrades?
Michael - I assume you are referring to the ProCall II unit. I'm not sure ... I don't plan to do anything more to the car. Just tires, gas and driving. I really enjoy the car.
I was wondering about this, i remember when this was available with a flash tuner kit instead of a laptop. Great info!
Thank you!
Love your videos. Quick question about a couple of your upgrades. Would you recommend doing the Mountune intake before the FRPP tune or the other way around?
saw you were still replying to comments. did this affect the reliability? i’m planning to buy a used ST at 100k miles, mostly stock except for the ford performance tune. i’ve heard stories about peoples engines blowing with this tune (and others, and none!) just wondering if you had any advice for this.
I had no issues with it. I do recommend changing spark plugs every 20k miles and oil annually.
What ford tune did you get? I was thinking about the mountune 275 but it seems pricey. I thought the ford tune was more for low end torque?
Will this tune allow me to install a downpipe without blowing anything up?
I know this might be a dumb question but how do I buy this off the performanceparts.ford website? I see the product through the link but don't see where it actually allows me to purchase. Appreciate the help
I have the ford performance exhaust put on so if you look closely at the tips Henry Ford himself busted a fat load all over it for maximum gains adding a total of 9 horse torques
Not many people notice that. Good eye
All Ive owned have been Fords, but Henry Ford was a nazi loving eugenics funding little bitch. He's burning in hell 🙃
Ah, useful info. Thanks for making this vid.
Glad you liked it! I will be covering this tune as time goes on as well
When upgrading to this calibration do you also need to get an aftermarket Bypass Valve and/or Intercooler?
You don’t need to but the will help ensure the engine performs properly at all times and has the right components to handle the added power
@@Gjeebs OK, Thank you!
Did you torque the spark plugs down or just get the snug? Also did you use anti seize on them?
Love your vids!! 👍 Can this tune be reflashed by dealership or local mechanic not knowing of the tune?
The only bad thing with the tune is the heat soak after 2 or 3 good pulls. This setup definitley wont fly on the track without FMIC upgrade and you still have to adress brakes (and no hawk pads alone wont fix it). You need a big brake kit or at the very leasr slotted rotors and better pads. 130 to 0 one good time and you will hear the dreaded pulsing...waiting patiently to get my brakes back...how frustrating.
Do you have to have this ASE installed? Or can register warranty the part without someone else installing in?
The Nice shifting you are feeling might be due to the high performance spark plugs
I've had those in for months though. Those in conjunction with the tune I'm sure is the difference.
I am definitely interested in this tune/calibration, especially since it's by Ford Performance. Looking forward to your update! Do you plan on upgrading your intercooler down the road?
As of right now I don't see myself upgrading it but that could easily change haha
Do you get more boost from doing tune? And do you have to have ford racing performance exhaust on it or can i go with other exhaust
do you need the exhaust in order to get the gains or can you just do the calibration and spark plugs
Anybody have to take the tune off and put the factory one back on with this port system? Would love some guidance on how to do this if anyone has an idea.
Did this calibration change the exhaust notes? More gurgles? Any crackles?
Great review, I know exactly what you mean between 1-2 and 2-3. Does the tune get rid of that dead zone between 2-3k rpms? Does it keep your 3 year 36k and 5 year powertrain warranty as well?
Yes the tune eliminates the dead zone for sure and the shifting feels great. You keep your 36k bumper to bumper but I think powertrain is reduced for 60k to 36k
I am seriously considering getting the Ford Performance ProCal kit for my '16 ST, so i do not void my bumper to bumper warranty. My question for you is...is it really worth the $600 i would have to shell out for the kit- ProCal calibration tuner and plugs??? Any feedback on this or tips that you could give me about it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. Thanx much!
Did you know this video is linked through Ford performance website?
I actually didn't know it was up yet so thanks for letting me know!
I have a ford focus st dont know wich tune to get. Is this better than the cobb tune? Did this tune increase the 0 to 60 and quarter mile time?
Why couldn’t ford just put this calibration on from the factory?
Because they are a bunch of Dicks.
They like selling mods and tunes at high prices; like the navigation updates at $150 per. They aren't the only ones, of course. The ST was designed to sell at a profit, so a fair amount of upgrading is left to the retail buyer. But the Focus gives you a good platform to work with. Thank goodness for third-party modifications!
Other than the fact that they want more money, the stock ecu can use 87 octane fuel which is cheaper and most people prefer buying regular fuel. Also, this tune likely requires some additional performance hardware to properly handle it. Like performance intercooler, exhaust, intake, cold sparks.
Hey man,
Not sure if you noticed by now bot your boos goes significantly higher as well. It's so dramatic I went back to ford to make sure it was done right XD
The one thing I didn't like about the upgrade package is the sound.
Koop Guy what is it about the sound you don’t like?
Have you considered an lsd?
hey i would like to remove my tune, how would I be able to do that?
Do you know if when you perform update. And have dealer do work to vehicle and pcm has a update.. will this be taken off.. after dealership updates my fuel recall..
when you mentioned tha blow off valve sounds different ...you mean louder ...deeper?? how much different?
Great vids bud, I'm from Corpus Christi tx. I just got at 14 St with 47k miles. I want the ford tune,but with all available it's hard to pick one. I just wanna ask if your happy still. I dont wanna burn up the engine,but I understand it happens.
I am still happy with it. Makes me smile every time I drive
Will this calibration survive a reflash if I have work done at dealership?
Pipes look awesome!
Nice video! By the way I don't think all FRPP and Mountune parts let you keep your ford warranty. Like the rear motor mount or recirc valve aren't covered by ford.
I am going to make a video on this soon
In your video, you say you had the dealership install the "tune" or calibration to avoid voiding the warranty. Yet, your video shows you installing the calibration -- not the dealership. I'm about to buy a 2018 Focus ST3 and I would like to do some upgrades that won't void the warranty. Do I need to have the dealership install the calibration, or can I do it myself?
You must get it done at a Ford or Lincoln dealership. I was able to keep my warranty because I had an agreement with Ford Performance before making this video
Do you have any idea when Ford will release the 2018 Calibration? I bought the kit from trueblueracing and it's for the 2013-2017 only. It will update to the 2018 "soon", something about EPA. Maybe someone knows when the 2017 or 2016 became available. I am willing to bet it's a similar time of the year for each release.
hey Gjeebs, does the procal tune still have the rev hang? I love how the rev hang makes shifts so smooth and want to keep it
It’s smooths out the shifting for sure. You will notice that right away. I don’t remember the difference between rev hang before and after
Just purchased my calibration! Was debating going JST tuned but decided to hold onto my warranty a little longer lol
Where did you find it?
KTM250MXC www.trueblueracingparts.com/2013-2017-FOCUS-ST-CALIBRATION-WITH-SPARK-PLUGS_p_514.html
Anyone know how to fix the PCM error? I tried installing it with my dad (who’s a certified ase senior master tech) but when it completes reading the PCM it says null and an error, anyone know what to do??
what about the boost? Did the boost go up?
You said the whole lineup lol I wonder if you can get a calibration for the Ford GT
Gjeebs I think you need a new rim ? TrueBlue has a sale on them for $152 each 18" gloss black
I dont think a oem st diesel tune is available? :(
hey gjeebs why do i need to change the spark plugs when calibrating?
mickey oh there is a package that includes the tune and ford performance cold plugs
It gets rid of the Eco shift light? I'm sold!
haha
Quick question, with this tune would a bigger intercooler be needed? Or did you stay running the stock IC?
Willmar Lorente I think the only thing you need is 91+ octane and the cold spark plugs for the tune. The programming allows more adjustment for air flow so it can adjust for different intakes and exhausts
The warranty is not by Ford but by “Ford Performance”, considered a different entity which will cover it. Also, the calibration and plugs must be installed by a participating dealer to validate the warranty.
Correct me if I am wrong, but If you don't have it installed by the dealer, there is no warranty.
I contacted Ford before making the video and they are going to honor my warranty because I made this video showcasing their product but in normal circumstances you would be right.
Is this available for the fiesta st?
I have a question. Can the frpp tune be reflashed back to stock as many times as i want? I live in Canada and was wondering if it should be put back to stock for winter?
It might be to torquee on ice and snow. It probably is fine to drive anyway but i would like to know if I have that option sand is that bad for engine?
As far as I know you can set it back and fourth as many times as you want. I understand your concern in winter
Got this tune and a day later my shifter got stuck in third gear. Im pissed cuz I was having so much damn fun but now I dont know what to do. I had to get it towed to my house.
I doubt the tune was the cause. It's gotten stuck before but I wiggled it and it got unstuck. Not this time though.
SO THIS IS WEIRD, THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT CAME WITH MY PROCAL4 INSISTED THAT I USE A PC AND NO APPLE PRODUCTS BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS GUY USED A MACPRO LAPTOP
Dental goals.
Haha
This does not maintain the factory powertrain warranty. It replaces it with a separate Ford Performance warranty that is only good for 3 years/36K miles.
hey Gjeebs looking to get this setup on my 2018 st1,just a question,do i have to get a cold air intake also with this,thanks for your help...
Nice! And no you do not need to upgrade your intake
How much was this from ford performance?
Is this the only kit that comes with the 91+ octane sticker or has Ford been applying them to all the st and rs models? I just purchased a 2016 st and the sticker is there.. I purchased the car used but have no idea if anything was ever done to it. That's why I'm asking
This sticker is from the kit and it would never come from the factory like that so it must have been tuned in the past
@@Gjeebs good to know.. I thought nothing of it until I saw you put one on your car.. as far as I knew mine was bone stock.. no cai, no exhaust even had factory halogen bulbs and everything.. I wonder if there's a way to find out.. I bought it used at a dodge dealership and I'm sure they don't have an idea
Is there a way I can check and see if this was in fact installed on my car.. I found you can purchase the fuel sticker online but was curious if there's a site or something I can run my vin to see or somewhere in the car to check?
Do you still have the sound symposer installed? Or is all that sound due to your exhaust?
I still have it installed but the software in the tune uses more natural engine sound and less of the symposer
Yea what he said, the sound symposer software gets some kind of revision to it through the Ford calibration
It seems kind of weird to me that the manufacturer of the car would sell you a tune. Seems like it should just have that power from the factory. Almost like DLC. Regardless, 90ft-lbs?!? I'd like to see a video on how bad the torque steer is now.
I get what you're saying but all cars engines have more power locked in them but are tuned for efficiency and reliability. They do this to be conservative. It's just nice Ford offers the software to safely unlock more power
RGBGFIVE but in theory shouldn't this still be reliable since it's covered under warranty? To me it's kind of like a car that has an Eco mode and a Sport or Performance mode but to be able to use it you had to pay an extra fee. Like don't get me wrong, I would probably do it too if I had an ST and I have a tuner for my car. It just seems weird that the manufacturer is selling it to you and covering it under warranty.
There's alot of things to consider as to why Ford did this. #1 is probably Insurance costs. Insurance rates are based on power/torque output. Back in the muscle car era, the big three would often underrate power output to fool the insurance companies. #2 this tune is like any other option.. you have the standard tune and this would be the dealer installed option, its a way to make more money from the people who are willing to buy it. For those that are ok with the lower standard output, or dont have the driving skills or need for the extra power to be forced in to it.
did this effect gas mileage?
Not under normal driving
Finally
Whats the outro song?
So is it purely torque increase? No hp increase with the calibration?
Yep torque and the timing is advanced
How did you install in your computer
I can’t open it
I tried and tried but it’s says my security doesn’t allow it
You need to go into your settings and allow apps from outside the App Store to be downloaded. After your computer restarts it should be in your apps
Man oh man I want this tune so bad. I have a new 18 with only 3k miles on it. Think I should wait a bit for the engine to break in. Do you know if removing the sound symposer voids the warranty?
Removing the sound symposer does not void the warranty. If you want this tune and you can comfortably afford it it’s worth it
@@Gjeebs thanks for the reply. Great vids btw!
I keep going back and forth with performance upgrades and I think my first mod is going to be the mountune full intercooler upgrade, Motormount and air intake. All mountune for warranty and also because they kick ass with these cars!!!
Idk, I've read alot about upgrading the intercooler and how it's a must on a turbo charged engine and with the ic being twice the oe size, I can only imagine it will upgrade the stock performance.... wont be long before I do calibration and full exaust.
I'm not sure what else I need for the mr300 full performance upgrade but that's my end goal (along with suspension upgrade)
It's a lot to do with mountune since they cost a pretty penny, but the truth is I want the extra power on the st as bad as I want to just trade it in for an RS!!!!!
glad you like the videos! Just so you are aware you cannot run the Ford Calibration and the MR300 tune. It's one or the other
was wondering what your thoughts are about the 2015 ST 1 and if its a good buy if I'm starting out
If I was getting an ST I would get a 15 or above just because it has the facelift. I think it’s worth it and will look better over time
Gjeebs thanks for the advice 🙏🏽 been in between some focus ST’s and this helps a lot!
What rmm are you running? Any bad vibration at idle with A/C ?
Mountune RMM. There is definitely increased NVH at idle and it can be annoying at times. When you don't have AC on it is totally fine
Thought this required cold start spark plugs to work and Ford shop install for warranty?
It does. Forgot to mention I installed those
Gjeebs did you install the spark plugs your self? I’m getting the tune this week and wondering how hard it was to do.
Great video! Where did you get the octane sticker?
It comes with the performance pack
Thank you!
Im out of warranty with my 2015 St. Would you still recommend the Ford calibration or another tune?
I would still recommend it because it is still the safest for your engine because it was designed in-house by ford.
@@Gjeebs I'm considering getting this tune but have seen a couple of people in this comment section say the blew their motor on this tune because it puts out 25 lbs of boost. I wonder if thats too much boost for these cars.