The Making of the MCU was a Sh*t Show (Pt 1: Forging Iron Man)

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  • Making the MCU is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Iron Man, from getting the film rights to The Avengers, to the casting of Robert Downey Jr, and filming a movie without a script.
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    In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. And we are going to talk about these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:41 - Marvel's First Comic Book Movies
    01:58 - Marvel's New Management: Isaac Perlmutter & Avi Arad
    03:49 - David Maisel Establishes Marvel Studios
    04:37 - Kevin Feige's Dream of a Shared Marvel Universe
    06:35 - Collecting the Film Rights for the Avengers
    08:11 - Jon Favreau Signs on to Direct Iron Man
    10:11 - Casting Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark
    12:06 - Writing Troubles with the Marvel Creative Committee
    14:43 - Filming Iron Man without a Script
    17:00 - Iron Man Releases May 2, 2008
    Sources:
    Bloomberg: www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
    Box Office Mojo: www.boxofficemojo.com/release...
    Entertainment Weekly: ew.com/article/2008/05/05/jon...
    The Hollywood Reporter: www.hollywoodreporter.com/fea...
    www.hollywoodreporter.com/fea...
    web.archive.org/web/200710110...
    Mashable: mashable.com/2017/07/05/kevin...
    Rotten Tomatoes: www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron...
    SuperHeroHype: www.superherohype.com/feature...
    USA Today: usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/m...
    Featured Footage:
    Captain America (1944)
    Iron Man (1966)
    Howard the Duck (1986)
    Less Than Zero (1987)
    The Punisher (1989)
    Captain America (1990)
    Chaplin (1992)
    X-Men: The Animated Series (1992)
    The Fantastic Four (1994)
    Spider-Man: The Animated Series (1994)
    Volcano (1997)
    Blade (1998)
    You've Got Mail (1998)
    X-Men (2000)
    Made (2001)
    Spider-Man (2002)
    Big Fish (2003)
    Elf (2003)
    Gothika (2003)
    The Notebook (2004)
    Spider-Man 2 (2004)
    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
    Corpse Bride (2005)
    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)
    Zathura: A Space Adventure (2005)
    Children of Men (2006)
    Ultimate Avengers: The Movie (2006)
    Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
    Spider-Man 3 (2007)
    Zodiac (2007)
    Iron Man (2008) and special features
    The Incredible Hulk (2008)
    X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
    Iron Man 2 (2010)
    Iron Man 3 (2013)
    Marvel Studios: Assembling a Universe (2014)
    Marvel 75 Years: From Pulp to Pop (2014)
    Captain America: Civil War (2016)
    Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
    Avengers: Endgame (2019) and special features
    GQ: Jeff Bridges Breaks Down His Most Iconic Characters:
    • Jeff Bridges Breaks Do...
    Rotten Tomatoes: MCU Phase One: Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige Recalls the Beginnings:
    • MCU Phase One: Marvel ...
    Fortune Magazine: Reinventing Hollywood with Dave Maisel, Ben Silverman and Robert Wiesenthal:
    • Reinventing Hollywood ...
    Wired: The Visual Effects of 'Iron Man'
    Music:
    John O'Brien and Rick Boston - Iron Man (2008 version)
    Ramin Djawadi - Iron Man (Original Soundtrack)
    Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme
    #itwasashtshow #ironman #mcu
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Komentáře • 980

  • @icy5_20
    @icy5_20 Před 2 lety +1330

    It's insane the incredible level of production and quality of these videos. You definitely deserve way more subscribers!

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +30

      Thank you! We agree!

    • @salvageartstudios
      @salvageartstudios Před 2 lety +4

      It's just doesn't add up...n it's sad

    • @chesirefulify
      @chesirefulify Před 2 lety +8

      @@ItWasAShtShow this is gonna hurt, but its your name, hearing your favorite movie " Was A Sh*t Show" just makes it a bit offputting to click on. Just constructive feedback.

    • @mr.rosenberg9047
      @mr.rosenberg9047 Před 2 lety +8

      @@chesirefulify Other way around, it makes you want to click the video more. And it says THE MAKING OF, not THE MOVIE was a shit show

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +12

      @@chesirefulify I get the sentiment, but I already weighed the pros and cons of that 3 years ago. Kinda moot now, because the channel seems to be lifting off. But like Rosenberg says, its the MAKING of.

  • @bottlecap7533
    @bottlecap7533 Před 2 lety +1992

    Stans joy when talking to RDJ and saying "It's like I'm taking to Tony Stark!' lights my fucking world up

    • @SuperOmnicronsj44
      @SuperOmnicronsj44 Před 2 lety +61

      Yeah, RDJ only went from addiction and a risk to making 75 mil in total for playing Iron Man. if its a sh*t show - Get some damn toilet paper. It was a brilliant comeback with a B grade character from the comics. MCU is a SHIT SHOW now. What "stans" ... it was a great story about a guy who turned his career around - Iron Man literally saved the dudes life.

    • @average_enjoyer
      @average_enjoyer Před 2 lety +25

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 whatt?

    • @watchm4ker
      @watchm4ker Před 2 lety +46

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 The tag line comes from the production difficulties, and video shows that, yeah, there was a lot of points where stuff could have collapsed. If RDJ relapsed hard, if their improvisations had failed, if any of the execs got cold feet, if they used the Mandarin right from the start... Especially the part where there was essentially no script, considering the complexity of the model and CG effects. Plenty of failed movies burned 10s of millions on sequences that were unsalvageable. And when you consider how interconnected the movies became, bad decisions on one movie affect the others lined up for production. See the nightmare that was the Rise of Skywalker's production for a recent, painful example.

    • @caponepointdexter4438
      @caponepointdexter4438 Před 2 lety

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 nobody cares nigga

    • @just_tom00
      @just_tom00 Před 2 lety +46

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 he means stan. like Stan Lee. Are you good?

  • @Beastinvader
    @Beastinvader Před 2 lety +1806

    Iron Man still has a realism the rest of the MCU hasn't matched. Strangely, Incredible Hulk comes the closest

    • @davidmacy411
      @davidmacy411 Před 2 lety +205

      I would say thats only because the hero doesnt have any superpowers. Near-future tech is much easier to get realistic than magic and superpowers.

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Před 2 lety +186

      Winter Soldier is absolutely the most realistic of any Marvel movie.

    • @BurgoYT
      @BurgoYT Před 2 lety +25

      @@CamJames nah infinity war is for sure

    • @grantdvorak91
      @grantdvorak91 Před 2 lety +28

      @@CamJames most grounded

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Před 2 lety +11

      @@BurgoYT lmao

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ Před 2 lety +628

    Stan Lee being excited talking to Robby like if he’s tony is heat warming.

    • @deathisonlythebeginning5098
      @deathisonlythebeginning5098 Před 2 lety +16

      If Stan Lee had said that to me I would pass out. You don't get better praise than that.

    • @donnycorn3086
      @donnycorn3086 Před 2 lety +18

      seeing a character of your own story in real life, what could possibly be better?

    • @chrisbustos1431
      @chrisbustos1431 Před rokem +10

      Heat is definitely warming.

    • @johntakito1795
      @johntakito1795 Před rokem +3

      @@chrisbustos1431 beat me to it hahaha

  • @nerdly44
    @nerdly44 Před 2 lety +201

    The shot of Ironman walking away from an exploding tank is, in my opinion, still the greatest shot of any Marvel film.

    • @RohonNag
      @RohonNag Před rokem +8

      Well, cool dudes dont look at explosions...

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta Před rokem

      @@RohonNag except Tobey Maguire Spider-Man

    • @katejay9786
      @katejay9786 Před 16 dny

      agree... i also love the Avengers circle pan shot

  • @millennialcaveman8383
    @millennialcaveman8383 Před 2 lety +443

    This is the kind of thorough yet concise, invested yet not fanboyish content I love.

  • @kanedaku
    @kanedaku Před 2 lety +521

    Sam Jackson wasn't fan-casting; years before, Marvel asked him if they could change Fury's likeness to him. He said yes.
    It wasn't an accident Fury has looked like Samuel L Jackson for so long.

    • @blackleague212
      @blackleague212 Před 2 lety +47

      its fan casting since the person who drew the black nick fury said he had Sam Jackson in mind in an interview, and then sam said it was ok. someone else made a video on that.

    • @jimcook7053
      @jimcook7053 Před 2 lety +40

      In an interview Sam Jackson says he phones them "like you can't just use my image!!", they countered with "what you read/like this wow!" & "and when we make the film there's a part for you..." & he was like ok sounds cool. Although I suppose it depends if the artist is considered a fan of Sam Jackson lol

    • @xxboywizardxx9573
      @xxboywizardxx9573 Před 2 lety +29

      It was actually used without his permission. He only granted permission after being reassured that he could also play the character on screen.

    • @kanedaku
      @kanedaku Před 2 lety +6

      @@blackleague212 That is the dumbest argument that it was fan casting.
      How is it fan casting when it happened in 2002 with Ultimates, years before before Iron Man was greenlit and was even going to have Nick Fury in it?

    • @kanedaku
      @kanedaku Před 2 lety

      @@jimcook7053 Still not fan casting as I stated.

  • @ronineditor9920
    @ronineditor9920 Před 2 lety +74

    11:21 RDJ was so perfect because he 'was' Tony Stark... the entire film was about a second chance for redemption, starring a guy who lived that.

  • @THE_BEAR_JEW
    @THE_BEAR_JEW Před 2 lety +39

    2008 was just a crazy year. We got Iron Man, the Dark Knight, Hancock, Punisher Warzone, Hellboy 2, and Incredible Hulk. It was loaded.

  • @gregor0ni927
    @gregor0ni927 Před 2 lety +173

    I remember seeing Iron Man for the first time and how blown away I was by the “I am Iron Man” stinger. I felt like it was the start of something huge, and I wasn’t even fully aware that they had plans for such an expansive cinematic universe. Such a BA way to end a film and set things up moving forward!

  • @TheMsLourdes
    @TheMsLourdes Před 2 lety +357

    Everyone I know when Iron Man was announced, first question was...'Who the hell are they going to get to play Tony Stark?" Then when RDJ was mentioned, everyone cocked their heads to the side and said.."Nailed it in one. When can we get tickets." There was no discussion as to anyone else or any one more suited, RDJ was Tony Stark and we all knew it, the parallels were just too obvious and many.

    • @brerrabbit9668
      @brerrabbit9668 Před rokem +1

      I guess Kiss kiss Bang Bang and Charlie Bartlett showed you enough of RDJ's acting chops to know he could pull of the narcissistic, alcoholic, billionaire that you had come to know in the comics. Because the character changed a lot from page to screen... :l

    • @spacemann1425
      @spacemann1425 Před rokem +24

      Iron Man itself isn't the most deeply written character in MCU. But RDJ's acting made it that way. Classic case of an actor surpassing the effort and talent for a certain character. While Chris Evans did justice to Steve Rogers' character(who imo is the best written character in mcu) and played him perfectly, RDJ played Tony Stark beyond perfectly.

    • @libertyprime7911
      @libertyprime7911 Před rokem +1

      The parallels? Like how Tony Stark is like Charlie Chaplin? Or the character in Less Than Zero? What are you even talking about?

    • @VicInNocal
      @VicInNocal Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@libertyprime7911 They literally mention the parallels in this video

  • @jeuno880
    @jeuno880 Před 2 lety +63

    If even Stan Lee himself said that he feels like talking to Tony Stark.......
    You know how good RDJ was at portraying Tony Stark.

  • @xxboywizardxx9573
    @xxboywizardxx9573 Před 2 lety +57

    Quick thing about Sam Jackson as Nick Fury, the first artist to draw the character as black literally traced an image of Sam Jackson. There’s other instances of them doing the same thing as well. Anyways, Sam’s legal team negotiated that they wouldn’t sue so long as he was cast in any film that featured Nick Fury.

    • @user-sr9qe2zl9w
      @user-sr9qe2zl9w Před rokem +7

      Win win situation. Good move by SLJ’s team.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Před 7 měsíci

      Which gives him a very secure role to have.

  • @rory4016
    @rory4016 Před 2 lety +34

    I genuinely think casting RDJ as ironman is the greatest casting decision of all time.

  • @JustInTime0525
    @JustInTime0525 Před 2 lety +165

    Other than RDJ, I seriously can't thank Jon Favreau enough for giving us the start of what we have today. Also his portrayal of Happy is like a comfort character to us now that Tony is gone, hope to see more of him whoem remains from start in more future films!

    • @benvoliothefirst
      @benvoliothefirst Před rokem

      *whomst ;)

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s Před rokem

      This isn't factual it was terrace Howard who helped him get this role

    • @jasongamer8649
      @jasongamer8649 Před rokem +10

      Yeah I'd say he's actually the main reason, guy knows what he's doing, how to respect what came before, the lore, the character, the world of Marvel. Notice he also made the best of Disney Star Wars, unlike JJ and KK utter shite.

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able Před rokem +1

      Oh you will.

    • @constancemiller3753
      @constancemiller3753 Před rokem +1

      I love D-Bob🍀He worked hard for Iron Man & The Mandalorian.

  • @ericecho5118
    @ericecho5118 Před 2 lety +450

    More credit (and props) need to be given to Marvel's ACTUAL first hit (modest or not) Blade. It's mentioned here, but seems a little glossed over. Blade being their first ever success was a really big deal for there even being a future for Marvel studios. And also being the first superhero film giving that true 'street-level', brutally realistic grounded tone that later became the norm for superhero properties.
    Really excellent rundown of all these events though! Just at the beginning of binging this channel!

    • @diannajennings266
      @diannajennings266 Před 2 lety +7

      Nah...nothing to do with MCU

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +48

      @@diannajennings266 Everything to do with MCU, if Blade wasn't a success your precious MCU most likely would never have existed.

    • @randomcharacter6501
      @randomcharacter6501 Před 2 lety +45

      I get that I'm getting old and a lot of people weren't around for how big Blade was. I mean now we just Google box offices and say yea that movie didn't make as much as the other so it must've been bigger but nah. I don't know a household that didn't have Blade on VHS or DVD. They don't realize the beating Schumacher's Batman movies put on superhero movie goodwill with general audiences. I say without Blade we don't get not only the MCU, we don't get Nolan's Batman either. People always point to Spiderman or The X-Men as precursors to the MCU but nooooooo. The starting point was definitely Blade.

    • @VHVDRAGON
      @VHVDRAGON Před 2 lety +10

      Blade was very cool. The martial arts and over all style of the movie was great. Defenitely desrves more recognition....

    • @NotDuncan
      @NotDuncan Před 2 lety +22

      Blade had a budget of 45m and made 131m at the box office, I agree not only was it the best Marvel movie made pre-2000 it remains one of my favourites.
      EDIT
      without Blade there would have been no Spider-Man, they only made it because of how well Blade did. Following that was the X-Men franchise, but first was Blade. Well spotted OP, I never thought so this

  • @ArdFooty
    @ArdFooty Před 2 lety +20

    The part Stan Lee was talking to to Robert was so wholesome he was so happy to see his work like this

  • @AustinPamer
    @AustinPamer Před rokem +23

    I remember talking about how RDJ was cast as Iron Man, and then seeing the first Iron Man and being so hyped by the end credits scene. Me and my dad used to go see every MCU movie at midnight and I miss it so much. I still call or text him every time I watch a new Marvel movie to talk about it with him. I love you dad!

  • @chuckz253
    @chuckz253 Před 2 lety +28

    When I was a kid, I remember watching the Iron Man cartoon of the 90's. I would always think to myself, that hopefully one day they make a real life version of the cartoon. In 2007 when it got revealed that they were making a life action movie, it was one of the happiest days of my life. Iron Man will always be my #1 MCU movie.

  • @robertcourtemanche9185
    @robertcourtemanche9185 Před 2 lety +32

    I always felt iron man was a mega hit right from the first trailer. RDJ was inspired casting. He truly is Ironman

  • @internziko
    @internziko Před 2 lety +179

    This channel is the epitome of an underrated gem. Keep up the great work

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +12

      Thank you! Glad you found us.

    • @johnnykilonzo2103
      @johnnykilonzo2103 Před rokem

      @@ItWasAShtShow where's part 3?, I am hooked how you package your content.

  • @actualzafra
    @actualzafra Před rokem +15

    Oh man, I have fond memories of this one. My dad is and always was a huge comic book nerd and when they announced RDJ as Tony Stark he was like "It would only make sense!". I didn't know much about the character but we went to see the movie anyway. Needless to say, we absolutely loved it. I gotta admit that not hearing the Black Sabbath song during the movie kinda bummed me out a little bit, until the iconic final line by Tony Stark immediately followed by the much awaited song. And then Samuel L. Jackson appeared, teased the Avengers and my dad was completely astonished. Good times.

  • @cerpintaxt97
    @cerpintaxt97 Před rokem +6

    This is 2 years old but still absolutely fantastic

  • @SDS2017
    @SDS2017 Před rokem +9

    RBJ being complemented to be like talking to Tony Stark by STAN LEE, has got to be the best complement you can get

  • @jamessifers8669
    @jamessifers8669 Před 2 lety +68

    how does this man not have more subscribers i binge watch the whole channel

    • @loginregional
      @loginregional Před 2 lety

      Simple: this channel has a very stupid title. Although WE all know what a shit show is, there are thousands who are offended by it. Very bad CONSCIOUS mistake.

  • @davidmace3310
    @davidmace3310 Před 2 lety +10

    When you get that level of excitement from Stan “ The Man” Lee you know you’re on the right track.

  • @micow9951
    @micow9951 Před 2 lety +18

    This so wholesome and uplifting to watch , the start of the MCU is kind of inspirational

  • @Emels
    @Emels Před 4 lety +107

    This channel deserves more subs! Loved this!

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 4 lety +5

      Thank you! Get the word out!

    • @skeaneable
      @skeaneable Před 2 lety

      @@ItWasAShtShow can you also do The Making of the DCEU or Zack Snyder's Justice League was a Sh*t Show it would be very interesting

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety

      Funny you should say that. The original Sh*t Show pilot episode in 2018 was about Justice League. Then we discussed it for THREE episodes on the podcast. Check out the Playlist section.

    • @Emels
      @Emels Před 2 lety

      @@ItWasAShtShow When is another episode coming?

  • @MusicLuv80
    @MusicLuv80 Před 2 lety +9

    Witnessing how Marvel movies all came together from the beginning, it feels like somethings are just meant to be. All those years of financial problems to selling characters to different companies but now everything just all came along. It is surreal.

  • @EddieNgatia
    @EddieNgatia Před 2 lety +3

    Hahaha Jeff Bridges with that slight pun "we ironed out the script" nice 🤣😂

  • @sweesuri7760
    @sweesuri7760 Před 2 lety +26

    My husband retired from Marvel. What an excellent story you told. Bravo. Thank You for your work.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +5

      Incredible! What did he do?
      And thanks for watching!

  • @jamesdoe4515
    @jamesdoe4515 Před rokem +5

    Iron Man being A Hero barely anyone had heard of sounds hard to believe

  • @fidelpamplona7887
    @fidelpamplona7887 Před 2 lety +4

    I enjoyed your story, but there's a huge part you missed out on. The Tech, particularly Zbrush from Pixologic. Zbrush wasn't originally meant to be used for modeling, but some scripts developed by users changed that. This all happened between 2005 and 2008. The idea of digital sculpting, rather than the clunky polygon blocks and new chips and lighting systems all converged about the same time. It was really amazing.

  • @avazquez01
    @avazquez01 Před 2 lety +54

    What’s more impressive.. more than anything.. is that not only have these films shaken the film industry to the core, not only have these films made a permanent mark on human social norms, but they have also inspired human creativity with technology. You see youtubers/entrepreneurs like Hacksmith and Gravity taking concepts from Iron Man and trying to make them a reality. It’s without a doubt that technology is starting to make somewhat of a different turn with these films in mind.

  • @sabahbubbler
    @sabahbubbler Před 2 lety +9

    One thing Marvel Studios get right is the amount of respect to the characters down right to costume. Look at Black Bolt. TV show Black Bolt, they made it modern or seamless style like Singer's X-men, with jacket. Dr. Strange MoM, use the design straight from the comic book. The mask, his head gear and even had the wings

  • @SpeakerJohnAsh
    @SpeakerJohnAsh Před 3 lety +69

    It amazes me there are videos with the exact same care and production quality as massive channels that have less than 0.0001% of the subscribers of comparative channels.
    The CZcams algorithm is broken. They just reinvented the 1% in the content distribution economy and patted themselves on the back. Meanwhile channels like this produce great content, work hard and don't reap the rewards.
    It's incredible that the same dynamics of unequal wealth distribution emerge so readily in a designed attention economy.
    CZcams has the capacity to build a fair algorithm, but they choose not to.

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Před 2 lety +1

      @@flagnappersmith7974 … wtf are you talking about man? The only part I understood was that it’s a good comment.

  • @misterduck4527
    @misterduck4527 Před 2 lety +26

    I can't believe it's been just over year and I'm just now seeing this. You and this video are definitely going to blow up. Amazing video!

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you so much!

    • @blackmantis3130
      @blackmantis3130 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ItWasAShtShowhi. Could you make a video about the 3rd blade movie?

  • @juselara02
    @juselara02 Před rokem +4

    I was trying to find a series about the inside story of the MCU. Finally! Thanks for this.

  • @NJTDover
    @NJTDover Před rokem +1

    I'll never forget the dogfight between Iron Man and the Raptors ... top-notch CGI!
    It's almost 2023 and I find it hard to totally believe that 14 years have passed by since it was screened at Odeon Leicester Square.

  • @ZiggyDoom
    @ZiggyDoom Před 2 lety +2

    I'll never forget going to watch Ironman in the movies then as the end credits rolled I went to the bathroom and when I came back my friend told me I missed Nick Fury announcing The Avengers. I have never left a Marvel movie before the credits rolled since.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +2

      Isn’t it crazy how even now you see people leave during the credits of a Marvel movie? Like guys, how do we not know the drill by now?

    • @ZiggyDoom
      @ZiggyDoom Před 2 lety

      @@ItWasAShtShow Yeah. I call them "Newbies" and "Tourists".

  • @ryurc3033
    @ryurc3033 Před 2 lety +9

    As im viewing this, i realize only 60,000 views, and 2500 likes?!?! This should have half a million or more.....awesome quality, very entertaining. Exelent work sir

  • @thefishey502
    @thefishey502 Před 2 lety +11

    I remember watching it for the first time in elementary school and thinking it was the coolest movie ever.

  • @GoGagUp1015
    @GoGagUp1015 Před rokem +2

    had no idea Favreau made Zathura but i loved that movie as a kid, far from a flop in my eyes.

  • @bestdadakasongoku4157
    @bestdadakasongoku4157 Před rokem +5

    I’m so glad I found this channel, I love this series you guys are doing. Definitely a sub earned.
    Man Marvel really climbed up from the trenches and now have the backing of Disney, DC never faced that adversity and they dropped the ball so hard, by not following up on the Dark Knight Trilogy, that they are imo losing the live action “war” between the two comic book franchises. Of course I don’t think it’s a pepsi coke rivalry because I think both have contributed to the genre and can coexist with different release dates easily.

  • @kino9356
    @kino9356 Před rokem +3

    That secret ending always gave me chills. ❤️

  • @JayPatel-ug1nh
    @JayPatel-ug1nh Před rokem +3

    Ahh, This brings tears of joy and nostalgia to my eyes!

  • @jayvansickle7607
    @jayvansickle7607 Před rokem +1

    OMG…. That interchange with Lee and Downy is Everything!

  • @the-vault-ofheaven44
    @the-vault-ofheaven44 Před 2 lety +3

    The joy stan lee had when he was talking to Tony stark (not rdj)
    is every writers DREAM it was like he had a time stone and he wrote everything for HIM

  • @supermansbrother
    @supermansbrother Před 2 lety +8

    With the quality of this video, I thought you would have like 3 or 4 million subscribers! You deserve so much more!!!

  • @domkovell5828
    @domkovell5828 Před 4 lety +62

    Great teaser at the end. I think things might be finally "going down" because of the struggling movie theater business. Marvel has opportunities to expand away from movies if this trend continues, but will it survive the transformation?

    • @SuperOmnicronsj44
      @SuperOmnicronsj44 Před 2 lety +4

      Gee i dont know , kill off popular heroes and front load identity driven characters that sh*t all over fans through twitter and directors that kill our canon ... ya think it will survive the transformation? Dr Strange MoM is already a 79% on RT

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Před 2 lety +15

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 MoM is so different from the MCU formula and thats why critics dont like it.
      I loved it

    • @mr.iiconic
      @mr.iiconic Před 2 lety +2

      @@SuperOmnicronsj44 the only identity driven character coming is Ironheart

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Pointman11111 yeah, I’m glad that marvel is trying new things instead of playing it same all the time.

    • @Pointman11111
      @Pointman11111 Před 2 lety +2

      @@BlueTyphoon2017 cant wait for the the first R Rated MCU project and i dont mean Deadpool bc that started under Fox.
      Something like Ghost Rider directed by Sam Raimi with the Actor from Agents of Shield.
      Or something like Peacemaker and Titans

  • @kaijudirector5336
    @kaijudirector5336 Před 2 lety +4

    When can you do one on Heaven's Gate? Really though, I love how concise these are. Please never stop.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +1

      Haven’t decided on that one yet. I don’t think CZcams is the best audience for such an obscure film. Maybe the podcast.

  • @nancykerrigan
    @nancykerrigan Před 2 lety +15

    Rewatch! Saw three episodes and I'm loving this series so far. Reminds me of the Netflix series The Movies That Made Us. Also I believe the man under the wings playing Captain America in that movie is the son of JD Salinger.

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 Před 2 lety +1

      Just wiki that and good grief you re right !

    • @SuperOmnicronsj44
      @SuperOmnicronsj44 Před 2 lety

      if it was the son of JD Sallinger he was in a sh*t show - worst thing i ever saw.... killed Cap before Chris Evans saved it.

    • @claymathewselevator8121
      @claymathewselevator8121 Před 2 lety +1

      He sits next to Stan Lee in the first Captain America movie when Stan Lee says I thought he’d be taller?

  • @MilmorInc
    @MilmorInc Před 2 lety +13

    can't wait for part 2!

  • @pheenmachine
    @pheenmachine Před 2 lety +19

    I can't be the only one that when hearing of Downey Jrs casting thought it was perfect BECAUSE of his history with alcoholism?

  • @JuliaSable
    @JuliaSable Před měsícem

    Rewatching this after years, I’m marveling at how 🔥 you already were at writing and editing way back then, and you’ve kept honing it ever since.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před měsícem

      Ah thank you! That really means a lot. Actually this is the only video I don’t like revisiting because I don’t think I was quite there yet.

  • @chrismccreight8207
    @chrismccreight8207 Před 11 měsíci +1

    “Truth is… I am Iron Man” is one of my favorite movie moments of all time

  • @carlosayala9995
    @carlosayala9995 Před 3 lety +6

    Incredible! Best breakdown I've seen.....

  • @merrytunes8697
    @merrytunes8697 Před 2 lety +4

    Zathura made a huge impact on a generation of moviegoers. P.S. I love Jon Favreau. The man can do no wrong

  • @NiceGuyEddie516
    @NiceGuyEddie516 Před 2 lety +1

    Great quality work. Been binging on your channel. Thanks homie

  • @colinrobertson1111
    @colinrobertson1111 Před 2 lety

    You earned a sub right here! Excellent, well made and informative content! Glad that CZcams suggested your channel.

  • @brianthomason5022
    @brianthomason5022 Před 2 lety +13

    Also I do believe iron Man launching the MCU was the moment we all realized we all hated DC comics. When it comes to movies that is

    • @deliverus6856
      @deliverus6856 Před 2 lety +5

      Now dc is getting a bit better. A lil bit

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 Před 2 lety +7

      @@deliverus6856 a tad . The latest batman was incredible.

    • @MrSuperalan99
      @MrSuperalan99 Před 2 lety +2

      Um no? the batman trilogy was going on during that time and TDK is the most influential hero film

    • @patax144
      @patax144 Před 2 lety +4

      You do know The Dark Night released the same year as Iron Man right? Sure DC took somewhat of a nose dive in the 2010s but in 2008 they were equal.

    • @fhinpus
      @fhinpus Před 2 lety

      Wb just got greedy that is

  • @mx472000
    @mx472000 Před 2 lety +3

    Robert Downey Jr. was to Iron-Man what Christopher Reeve was to Superman.

  • @jefterwil
    @jefterwil Před 11 měsíci

    Its hard to believe you don't have more subscribers! Your docs are absolutely wonderful! All of them give incredible insight to the difficulties of movie making. Thank you for so much for this channel! Keep up the good work!

  • @The_Spartan_Legend
    @The_Spartan_Legend Před rokem +2

    You just got a new Sub, dude. Amazing videos! Keep up the good work!

  • @L1VE3V1L
    @L1VE3V1L Před 2 lety +8

    When I heard there was an Iron Man film coming, I thought "who gives a shit about Iron Man?"
    Well, .....this movie was a revelation

  • @cyberfrank-bx2nv
    @cyberfrank-bx2nv Před rokem +3

    Ironman still is my best Marvel movie so far.
    it rocks!

  • @evrenmatique
    @evrenmatique Před 2 lety

    Been binging your videos and I absolutely love them!!

  • @armaogeddon
    @armaogeddon Před rokem +1

    Well, the days of half-assed adaptations were suspended, anyway. Fantastic video though. I spent the morning texting links to your videos to my friends.

  • @contenau22
    @contenau22 Před 2 lety +7

    This video is incredible, very well narrated and edited.

  • @SpikeValentine
    @SpikeValentine Před 3 lety +4

    Feige didn't read comics, he said so in a Vanity Fair interview back in 2017. That's a myth started by Lauren Schuler Donner.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 3 lety +4

      He never said that. Context is important. Read the whole quote: www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/marvel-kevin-feige-interview

    • @SpikeValentine
      @SpikeValentine Před 3 lety +2

      @@ItWasAShtShow that's exactly what he said. My brother also went with me to comic book stores sometimes and he knows nothing about comics. Feige said he collected toys, like Arad's Toy Biz, and that he read the bios on the back.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +3

      Again, read the whole quote.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SpikeValentine I'm still pissed off at him for not getting a new actor to replace Chadwick boseman to play king t'challa in black panther

  • @MrHhoommeerr
    @MrHhoommeerr Před rokem

    I just discovered your channel. Freaking Good. I like how you go back from the beginning beginning

  • @Gdub33
    @Gdub33 Před rokem +1

    These are so good! Please start them up again! I neeeed them!!!

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před rokem

      Start up again? What do you mean?

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Před rokem

      @@ItWasAShtShow
      I think they mean that they want you to make more MCU retrospective videos.
      (I’m happy to wait)

  • @GavinBohne
    @GavinBohne Před 4 lety +3

    If television history is any tale to the future MCU will be able to milk this trend / beat a dead horse for quite a while (Walking Dead anyone?). I doubt they are going back to bankruptcy anytime soon.

  • @benjaminwhite3585
    @benjaminwhite3585 Před 2 lety +6

    10 seconds in, you say Marvel "....made some movies over the years, of VARYING quality." Ummmmmmm.........Marvel didn't make any of those movies. Sony and Fox, respectively, owned the cinematic rights to those characters, not Marvel. Granted, not everything Marvel Studios has done has been a grand slam. But don't blame Marvel for other studios' fuck ups!

  • @bernlin2000
    @bernlin2000 Před rokem +1

    Bit criminal how few subs this channel has, great stuff, well researched!!

  • @boomieboo
    @boomieboo Před rokem

    Great documentary! Thanks for sharing.

  • @VHVDRAGON
    @VHVDRAGON Před 2 lety +3

    As a Ling time Iron Man fan, i saw RDJ casting as perfect. Quick wit, good Looks and a great actor. He is Tony Stark. I remember my non comic fans freinds saying that it would go no-pkace... (Thise same people poo-pood the Sam Raimi Spiderman films before they came out). I still Love to mention how wrong they were and are when they try to make negative comments about the MCU in general. I knew that we the Nerds and geeks are the majority. We want the movie adaptatiins to be serious and groundes. But still fantastic and cool.

  • @brianthomason5022
    @brianthomason5022 Před 2 lety +3

    I agree not enough addictions to be Tony Stark definitely should have been played by Charlie Sheen

    • @deliverus6856
      @deliverus6856 Před 2 lety +1

      Disney would never. Pretty odd considering the weird movies they put out now like turning red

  • @kamoheloiannk617
    @kamoheloiannk617 Před 2 lety +2

    We sing Kevin Fiege praises and Downey praises all the time but really need to start giving it up to Jon honestly.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 Před 2 lety

      I'm just mad at Kevin fiege for not replacing replacing the actor Chadwick boseman with another character that can play King chinchilla

  • @olivervarah696
    @olivervarah696 Před 2 lety +1

    I know this is an "older" video now, but I am just so impressed with the level of detail, pacing, and YOUR VOICE in these breakdowns.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety

      Thank you! You’re the first to mention my voice… which I think sounds like a nasal congestion navigating through broken glass. But thanks anyway!

  • @gronthgronth2628
    @gronthgronth2628 Před 2 lety +6

    Seing the MCU now compared to the "Old" MCU shows that the "golden age" of it passed. With introduction of multiverse everything starts to go downhill.
    Multiverse is nothing else but a way to excuse lazy writing and lack of continuity. You can have a film with reaaaaly hard hitting ending like Infinity war (the "Empire strikes back" of this generation i would say) just to have it completely wiped in End Game. Since then, no stakes seem high. There is no feeling of urgency or "oh shiet the baddie X is behind all of this". Because you can do anything and the next film can go "HAHA ITS MULTIVERSE! NOTHING IN THE LAST PART REALLY HAPPENED".
    Couple that with shows like Loki, which turned one of the most recognisable villains into a side-kick in his own story, or the "Eternals" that "decided not to intervene because" and it all falls apart.
    Remember when Iron Man had more and more pronounced PTSD symptoms from movie to movie, as he continued to go deeper and deeper into really screwed up situations?
    Or a sense of guilt when Captain America realised he could have saved bucky and spare him torment of being Winter Soldier?
    Or the fact that people around the world were actually horrified by the outcome of alien invasion and what happened during Ultrons rebellion? To the point they wanted to literally ban the superheroes alltogether due to how much of a collateral damage they cause?
    There will be none of that in coming years. As each movie can wipe out everything that happened previously. This, and B and C level of superheroes coming in, due to main actors finishing their contracts and walking off.

  • @justice_productions_
    @justice_productions_ Před rokem +3

    Despite all the nonsense haters that can’t handle girl heroes and gay characters…..I am still a die hard MCU fan…and a Kevin Feige fan. Seeing a universe come together and keep going! Truly a sight to behold!

  • @Just_Moh_it
    @Just_Moh_it Před rokem

    These videos are so good, no doubt you'll have millions of fans and subscribers within a year... Just keep it going with the high-quality videos! ❤

  • @adamwoodworth5758
    @adamwoodworth5758 Před rokem

    Incredible job 👍 subscribed !!!
    I will enjoy watching every one of your videos 🙂

  • @hassledvania
    @hassledvania Před 2 lety +3

    Its so misleading to claim "few had heard of Iron Man". He was no Spider-man, but his consistent presence in cartoons, crossover comics and video games meant he was a known entity.
    Its not like they built the MCU off El Meurto or anything.

    • @ItWasAShtShow
      @ItWasAShtShow  Před 2 lety +2

      Not misleading at all. Your examples are all ingrained in geek culture. Movies need to have a broader audience, and to them, he was an unknown. You can find multiple comments in this thread alone of people saying they never heard of him before the film.

    • @hassledvania
      @hassledvania Před 2 lety +1

      @@ItWasAShtShow I would argue saturday morning cartoons and merch means it escapes the "niche geek culture" and enters the general cultural zeitgeist.
      We all watched those cartoons as kids and saw the toys, from that alone people recognised Iron Man - even if they were completely oblivious to his story or villains.
      Wasn't like they started the MCU with Xmen, but its also not like they started with Moon Knight or Morbius.

  • @stacklysm
    @stacklysm Před rokem

    Awesome episode. I've had your channel recommended to me several times before but only gave it a chance today. I'm impressed by the production value and effort on research and presentation. Keep up the good work!

  • @bps3013
    @bps3013 Před 2 lety +1

    Stumbled across your channel and can't stop binge watching. Everything about your videos is spot on: production values, editing, narration style, just very very well done. Oh, and subscribed of course. :D

  • @Jaggoo17
    @Jaggoo17 Před rokem

    love this series/channel. It's interesting to watch how major productions came to be. Before they were famous.

  • @DomNation93
    @DomNation93 Před 2 lety

    Just found your channel. Great content. Keep at it!

  • @pikitonix1892
    @pikitonix1892 Před 2 lety +2

    This channel is so good, it needs more subs 💯

  • @user-wq9im1hx1p
    @user-wq9im1hx1p Před 2 lety +1

    Great research, stellar visuals, very entertaining.
    Amazing video, good job.

  • @EddieNgatia
    @EddieNgatia Před 2 lety +2

    Hey bro...just subbed to your channel. Impeccable quality videos!!! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @SimonBishop779
    @SimonBishop779 Před rokem

    Really nice video. I subscribed on the back of this and your ‘Back to the Future’ one. Thanks - looking forward to more.

  • @justmichael7056
    @justmichael7056 Před 2 lety

    Great work on the vid!

  • @hawsrulebegin7768
    @hawsrulebegin7768 Před 2 lety

    Enjoying these videos. Subbed.

  • @pnut3844able
    @pnut3844able Před rokem +1

    Dear god, the '97 X-men theme is STILL a banger.

  • @hakanyucel1639
    @hakanyucel1639 Před 2 lety

    Wow you have fantastic video! I’m new Subscribed!

  • @danielvandersall6756
    @danielvandersall6756 Před rokem +2

    The second I heard they cast Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark, I knew this was going to be an incredible series. For once, I was proven right.

  • @quest2k
    @quest2k Před 2 lety

    awesome video. This deserves way more views

  • @chefaiden8135
    @chefaiden8135 Před 2 lety +2

    love the content 💗