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LEGO Star Wars 501st Clone Troopers Battle Pack adult fan review! 75345
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2023
- Independent, #NotSponsored, unscripted fan review of the LEGO Star Wars 2023 edition 501st Clone Troopers Battle Pack with 119 pieces, £17.99 / $19.99 / 19.99€ at amzn.to/3GQHMwH * It includes 2x Heavy Troopers, 1x Specialist, 1x Officer, & 1x mini AV-7 cannon side build.
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Oh one thing I forgot to touch on in this video is the fact that LEGO has 100% stopped doing Star Wars battle packs forever as of last year. The Internet said so thus it's true. Kappa
Isn't this set a battle pack? and also the Hoth one?
I want to know if this is actually true. If it is, that sucks. We need more clone packs.
@@josiahlee4512 sarcasm
the internet did?
@@josiahlee4512 Read back over his comment. I think you missed his sarcasm.
The cool thing about this is that all the minifigs are actually based on the 501st skins in EA's Battlefront 2! If you combine them with the figures from the prior 501st set, you have a "squad" from the game, including the jet trooper reinforcement.
Hopefully they do an arc trooper battlepack from bf 2 so we can get the blue arc aswell
The skins in game honestly look like DICE had a "take your kid to work day" and let them colour all over the models.
I will never stop saying this, I SO BADLY want a battlepack with just plain, white p2 troopers. I cant even remember the last set that they appeared in, and they look so good. It is nice getting 501st, 212th, 187th, etc, but my army looks weird without a single undesignated trooper
I feel a name similar to "501st Specialists Battle Pack" would've fit the set better, but I can see this one doing pretty well
Sad to see that waistcapes are seemingly gone
I know the helmet hole is a bit controversial. It doesn’t look as good as I’d like, but that specialist macrobinocular kinda makes it worth it!!
I love that they’ve basically expanded the variety and detail after the last battle pack. I am hoping this means they might end up doing a similar pack for the orange 212th which will help make those figures more available. Even better, more legions down the road, including perhaps some phase 1 clones? Maybe even with Clone Wars style variety in their paint jobs? I can wish
I like the way the legs on the cannon are done. That's a lot of articulation for something that's mostly stationary and the clear support brick underneath is a smart addition.
I actually think the av7 cannon is a neat choice is the build since the figures included could also work pretty well as an artillery/tank destroyer unit. Two heavies to operate the cannon plus a sharpshooter as a spotter and an officer to lead the whole thing. I think that makes for a nice play pattern for the majority of kids who just get one or two
I think the previous battle pack being all regular troopers does mean it’s good as is in this ONE case, but the internet Lego Star Wars community is contrarian and super hard to please these days...
Edit: I’ve stopped and thought about this more. You’re absolutely right, it should have had regular troops, at least one. Some kids and fans are new and don’t have the old ones, and aftermarket prices are crazy
The Officer isn't too massable, but 3 of the 4 are, so not a bad selection of troops. Definitely not as bad as having 2 named jedi figures in a battle pack, although I do see where you're coming from. Perhaps 2 normal, 1 heavy and 1 specialist in this would be better with a sergeant in a different set, but definitely going to pick up a couple of these. The main issue by far is the lack of waist cape on the sergeant. I really dislike that LEGO doesn't make those any more.
My Toys ‘R Us in Canada had this box sitting on the shelf for a while, never was the biggest Star Wars fan but I enjoyed the build and its charm
So true regarding what you said at the end, “Lego can’t win”. It seems like the Lego Star Wars fanbase specifically will go to bed demanding one thing then wake up the next morning demanding something else. I understand you can’t please everyone, but is it too much to ask for everyone to not act like bratty children whenever they don’t get exactly what they wanted?
Among the childish, immature, LAN-spoiled community…yes, it’s far too much to ask.
That's unfortunately the current state of the Star Wars fan base as of late. Sometimes, I'm ashamed to be a Star Wars fan.
It's funny to me that they now are putting stud-shooters into their craft, like the TIE Bomber, and spring-loaded shooters into their minifigure packs.
Spring shooters make more sense for minifig sets, easier to knock them over and not lose your projectile. Ships on the other hand with stud/tile shooters can usually store them on board and never even have to fire (and inevitably) lose them.
I wish lego would just use a backpack mold with a print on it instead of this contraption. They do have one. Maybe redesign one to be more generic or make a star wars specific one.
I would love having cloth kamas and a black line on the new visor, that’s the only thing I would really improve imo
We live in a world where battle packs are 20 bucks now.
Let that sink in.
I’m more concerned with the cost of eggs.
Otters battlepack is way cheaper and better :P
Otter BP for the win
I like this. I like it a lot. What I don't like is how they print the Kama on the legs instead of a cloth piece. They did it for the Snowtroopers, Echo and now here.
Also the range finder looks really weird.
And does the printing have a lighter blue than the plastic? Or is it my eyes?
they stopped doing waist capes on snowtroopers as well
The two 501st sets really should have been swapped, with the specialists in the more expensive set and the regular troopers in the battle pack.
This is the way.
I kinda want a battle droid battle pack now. I have more troopers than droids
A year later these sets go on sale for $5 off, often enough. So I can jump into army building easier. I just want more droid battle packs.
I feel like Lego recently is trying to move away from cloth they made Doctor strange cape a hard plastic piece and they seem to have gotten a rid of the waste clothes. Although they seem to still be doing capes
Probably won't see pauldrons or kamas much anymore because there are so many on Bricklink and LEGO likely makes more money that way. They know people will buy the sets regardless.
Capes are important for characters like darth vader who have always been issued with a Cape piece. As for clothes that go around legs I can understand as otherwise u can't sit the figures down without removing the Cape and since this is a cheap set I'm sure plenty of children will want to use these figures.
Lego needs to release battle packs for castle sets
Already bought 2 of this set, but had to watch the jang review of course- thanks for the content!
Honestly, I'm just happy that they finally stopped using the dumb handheld stud shooters. They're fine on bigger builds but not for minifigures.
I love the fact that now we have cool actual blasters for minifigures instead of the (honestly not good-looking) stud shooters. I wouldn't mind stud shooters that much if they gave the option of having standard blasters in the previous battle packs
I love these since I play battlefront 2 often and I’m a heavy main in coop so I now can finally have my clone in person
The biggest problem I have with this is the fact that the micro binocular’s are not printed
It just looks a bit plain compared to the rest of the figures.
I don’t know if it’s technically possible for LEGO but I think it should be since the area is pretty flat as far as I can tell.
I’ve also Seen some people comment that the rangefinder sits too high on the helmet and is a bit too loose.
The first part I can definitely understand. Haven’t decided for myself where is stand on the issue though
The second part I can’t confirm since I don’t own the set, but judging from the video could be a problem.
Should be one of each of the classes if you ask me.
I used the extra pieces to make the cannon longer and to but a little intena on it!
Been waiting on The JANG to review this one!
Do you have an issue of the rangefinder falling off when ever you bump it? Great review!
I consider heavy troopers to be like regular troopers. I'm not a star wars expert by any means, but isnt a heavy like a slightly more buff ver than a reg? They're still a massable guy.
You know what'd be fun though. If they had like a pack that's 3 regs/heavies, and then a mystery figure. Like a random officer or a special dude or something
Lego SW fans are fickle, but they’re probably right about this one getting a pass for featuring non-standard troops since it’s released so close to the “bloated” battlepack as you call it. Marketing wise, it makes sense why the old one is off the market now, but its absence is the only meaningful exception to this pass Lego SW fans en mass are giving this one.
Nice that BF 2 is still part of current Lego/SW. Glad I picked this pack up.
The helmet holes not matching the previous set many people mass purchased is a bit annoying and the accessories are quite old and could do with updates to get them in line with the new macrobinocular piece. Also no kama for the officer is a real shame. Otherwise these are good figures and the value seems fairly on point.
There are two kinds of trooper collectors as far as I've generally see it:
1. Super collectors who bought A LOT of the previous 501st set, they already have 50 rows of clone troopers on a large baseplate collecting dust and they want something new.
2. Casual collectors who maybe bought one 501st set and still want an additional trooper or two thus don't agree with the figure selection of only specialized troopers.
Obviously both can't be satisfied at the same time. But this set is flawed for many other reasons:
- The cannon is boring, and I feel should have been blue to match the 501st color scheme instead of generic republic color scheme (like the walker and speeder from the 2021 set did).
- The price is too rough seeing as the 501st helmet and legs are re-used, the clone driver helmet print from the AT-TE is re-used with different color (just swapped tan with blue, should be a relatively easy swap in terms of production) and the 501st trooper legs are re-used for 3 figures. Those troopers shouldn't be as expensive to produce as LEGO would like us to believe they were.
- Again the new helmet bothers me. I understand the decision (and let's be honest, the problem isn't that they added the holes now, the real issue was that they didn't have holes in the original 2013 mold. This grave was dug 10 years ago probably by different employees) but still they should have still made the investment and modify the mold, seeing as the clone trooper helmets are probably here to stay for another 10 years.
- A battle droid should have been included. Just a single one would have been fine. I don't care for the "battle pack format" of "either good guys or bad guys but not both". This inclusion could have considerably improved my view of this set since I would get a feeling that at least they try to sweeten the deal (if not in terms of quality, at least in terms of quantity).
Just a small note: thank you for recognising places beyond the US exist. You obviously cannot list every currency, but it’s great that you say USD, EUR and GBP prices.
Finally!!! The return of the battle pack!
It works out for me since i have the 2020 set, but generally i do prefer basic troops in a battle pack.
Kama pieces need to return. The print on kamas is just such a lazy alternative. Sure they may fray, but they have an alternative flexible material to use for it now. Why not use it?
My solution for the cloth pauldrons if lego REALLY doesn't want to make them is having a print all around the minifig and a plastic one. So if you want to sit them down you can take off the plastic bit.
I think this is a nice battle pack, but I don't think the figures are nice enough to justify the price. At $20, these figures should have better color matching in the prints and that kama should be a physical piece of some sort.
Great video
Very nice!
I got mine today and it was missing the blue visors and antenna :(
I don't do massive army building but I have three of the 501st Legion sets and I am happy to get some different types of units this time. I'll buy less of these than the regular troopers but I really didn't need ten of them anyways. The two 501st sets do almost feel swapped around though. Like the easily repeatable and rebuyable army building 501st Legion should have been a battle pack and these guys could have been in a set with the larger builds since like you said, battle packs should have the more general purpose troopers. But hey at least there are no named units here! Also the two side connector things look a little weird when you are purposely looking at them but I don't really notice most of the time. Thanks for the review!
I got 3 of them because i love 501st legion. Didnt like the cannon much, however, upon reducing them to parts, you can use them to fill in parts of the most recent AT-TE and make it look more filled in.
Got this set recently, and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
Figs are pretty cool, the variety in blasters are very nice, new Phase II helmet + the macro binocular accesory are neat, and I really like the mini-AV7 build. It's minituarized, but it doesn't feel like a 'half scale thing' next to minifigs. The shaping itself seems fairly accurate to the source material, and the build itself & the techniques used feel/are modern and it's decently sturdy. Big improvement over the mini-AV7 like cannon from 2012 Elite Clone battlepack (one with ARC trooper & Commando Droids). I can totally see it as a smaller anti-vehicle cannon, maybe as a smaller member of AV family of cannons, and I'd say it's a nice Star Wars equivalent of real life anti-tank guns in terms of scale.
All in all, it occupies a similar space in my mind as the patrol speeder from the Solo/Imperial Patrol BP, and (for people like me) I think it could be almost as much draw as the figs themselves.
Speaking of figs... kama print feels rather pathetic, to be honest. Couldn't even tell what it was supposed to be right away when I built the figs myself.
And, oh man, the visor print... it's still too narrow in width, and that's a big shame. They have the right width in the package art rendar, and that made me even more dissapointed. Somehow, I don't feel like they're fixing this for a while.
I got 7 of the big ones, might get 2 of these... They just don't seem compatible with something that isn't a huge army, particularly because 2 of them are officers.
Personally, I would have prefered the even spread with one of the heavy's subbed out for an updated reg, but alas. At least these are not the unarmored officers, or even worse, named characters, or even Jedi like that battle pack with Ki-Adi Mundi and Barriss Offee, so I won't complain too much. Heavies I guess should still be somewhat common.
I do want an updated Rex (and a Fives for... the first time) but this was of course, not the place to do that, and I'm glad they didn't.
In the UK 4 minifig battle packs where £13 in 2020, while some new packs are desirable most are not really necessary to add to My collection.
I see the cannon as a wonderful nostalgia hit for those who had the arc trooper battle pack, back in the day. I agree on the price. Lego is Lego.
I feel that the modern clone face works well for live action and animated clones
Im definitely gonna pick this up, I remember having a battlepack with a similar canon when i was a kid. It is dissapointing to see they didnt bother giving the captain guy a cloth part, and I agree that it would make sense for a battle pack to have at least one normal guy, even if we had the set with a bunch the other year
THANK YOU for your levelheaded take on the rangefinder error. Strange how many “fans” of LEGO Star Wars are utterly convinced that LEGO is pure evil, hates them, intentionally did that to mislead them, etc.
These will bolster my 501st army. Only gonna get 1 though as I only need that many for my display. Can't wait until it is readily available in my region.
I'm glad they keep making battle packs, I'm sure these sell well although I think 212th would've been a better choice but still, better 501st than nothing and never enough Clones! and since it's 501st, I got huge hopes for Captain Rex minifig this year.
I'm sure we will be seeing captain rex at some point. Lego did say that they view the AT TE as a huge battle pack to some extent. At least for the 212th.
I'm not as annoyed about this set as some other people are, but the printed kama on the officer is a really poor effort on behalf of Lego. I mean, we had entire plastic pieces for the kamas in the late 2000s, then we got awesome cloth pieces in the 2010s, and now we've just reverted to the way Lego made their clones almost 20 years ago, by printing that stuff on, and it doesn't even look good.
Makes me wonder whether a Phase II Captain Rex figure would even be anywhere near as good as the 2013 one.
In a mic this could be used as a light artillery piece.
I think a good way to do battle packs would be 3 generic troops plus 1 random specialist unit (Officer, heavy, speacialist, jetpack) as long as the pool is limited (no more than 4) it should be easy enough for most to get all the units they want, and it would organically add variety as you army build. Then they could release different legions each year while still providing variety. If "blind" boxes are too unfair, they could have boxes printed with the included figure, but all share a common UPC.
I absolutely love this set, big fan of battlefront 2 and am surprised we got a clone battlepack based of it.. after all these years..
Love the new piece for the specialist and that one is my favorite in the battlepack and in the game, both in its skins and gameplay.
But for army building purposes this set is fantastic too, these give some absolutely fantastic variety to any 501st army or squad, plus you can always swap around some torsos helmets and attachments to have even more different 501st clones.
Hopefully we get more battlepacks based on bf2, ones id like to see most would be an arc trooper, shoretrooper, 327th, droid and a rebel battle pack.
There is 4 different arc skins in the game would be perfect. Same situation as this 501st counts for the shore and 327th too, 327th being my personal favorite clone legion. The droids have a lot of vareity in game and for the rebels they have a lot of aliens they could do, sullustan being the main standout for me
Just got 2 battle packs for £20 from Argos because or their sale 😂 (army increasing)
I reckon they shown have just removed the molded bump and put it about the middle between the bump and the hole.
I’m going to be putting the blue arms onto the officer’s torso. Just my thinking 🤔
they would have had to make a new version of the standard 501st trooper with the helmet holes to keep the mould consistent if they did have one in the set but those would end up looking strange next to the current ones and wouldn’t work as well to mass
Yeah, this latest review has sealed the deal for me, I will only be getting two of this 501st Clone Specialist battle pack whereas with the 501st Legion Battlefield pack I have 8, with the potential for getting even more.
I’m glad that the OG style of battlepack is back with all one faction being represented
Missed opportunity to have at least one be an assault trooper, so that this pack would have one of each base bf2 class
I think they should've included 1 of each type instead of 2 heavys, still a great set though.
I wish a couple of normal troops were in here … the original 501st battle pack was never easy to get in Australia so I don’t have it :(((
So, if you already have several of these (like 6) you can make a Company or two if you buy two of these sets.
If they did put the holes where they're supposed to be they wouldn't need to change the rangefinder piece as that would still fit fine.
As for the visor, that piece was made for Phase 1 Clones so isn't the right shape for a Phase 2 helmet anyway (it's too square at the front- P2 visors are more angled).
i kinda really just want a standard phase 2 clone pack
Maybe it's a bit unreasonable to ask but I just wish Lego would have some consistency between clone prints. Got ~40 2015 clones and the visor placement and torso prints of these recent clones don't really feel better or improved, just different and noticable. Would be so sick to have a million different legions, all with the same basic designs. Great review as always though Jang, keep up the good work 👍👍
I like the battle pack but a normal with hole 501 trooper would be nicer since 75280 retired like a month. If you want new helmet(with hole) you only get one in this set.
Strongly disagree with the people saying this pack should be all specialists. At minimum I don’t understand the point of two heavies per pack.
At least they aren’t officers, but this always brings me back to the days when I actually was massing clones and I ended up with a mountain of 212th bomb squad troopers I’ll never use in a million years just because I wanted ARF troopers and regular clones.
I don't understand why Lego didn't simply move the lower helmet bump up a bit to combine both bumps into one. It would look a lot better.
I might customise my officer to an ark trooper fives
My first LEGO set was 7655, and while this has no speeder, I would have had a BLAST as a 7 year old with this just as much as I did with 7655. It is 20 bucks, but for kids this is great, and for us adults it looks GREAT on my shelf along side the rest of my clones :)
I think people are overreacting about these new helmets. It looks ok, but it's not horrible. And we finally get a Commander Cody last year and all people can do is complain about the helmet they made to make this Minifigure a reality.
My only complaint about this kit is the printed Kama on the commander doesn't look as good as it does on say the Snowtroopers. Otherwise I'm happy to have my small 501st Clone army to have a bit of Variety and appreciate the Macrobinocular piece as I promptly slapped the extra on a 212th.
If I was buying all the star wars sets just casually, not looking for figs for a moc specifically. I would sill want most sets to come with standard troops. That way when all the sets are combined you have a good mass of what looks like an army, rather than a mash of verity ranks.
Where is the assault clone type?
I like Jang's work so much, I even enjoy his reviews of sets I'd never buy. I deleted all the prequels from my mind and prefer real stormtroopers.
I just wish we got more than one battle pack a year now. And more than one microfighter a year.
At least it's a PT era set. Those are also gettng rarer...
I feel like they should've released a Droid Battle Pack alongside this.
Isnt it ironic how the first 501st set had 2 oversized, small vehicles and the second 501st set had an undersized cannon? They shouldve done a regular sized AV Canon with the other troops cuz they had so many pcs in that set and then a small scaled down barc speeder or an at rt similar to the side build in the turbo tank for this set to be more size accurate
Still not 100% sold on the helmets but still good.
Give me 3 normal clones and a gunner. Ill take your whole stock.
For the Republic!!!!
I think it would have been nice if a couple of regular troops where in this set also, to allow people to continue building up their army. No ones going to want all specialists its not realistic.
I don't see much talk about the helmet prints, they still have that weird curvature that made the whole controversy for the 212th helmets. Less noticeable here, but it still looks goofy to me.
I think people are okay with the specialists because we just got the "not battlepack" that had regular troopers, and these specialists are still massable.
This set is cool and the micro binoculars are fantastic but I can't help but feel it's just lego cashing out on the sucsess of the 501st not battle pack.
Lack of waist capes is bad. Placement of helmet holes is bad. Use of the inaccurate 2009 visor piece is bad. Still gonna buy a ton of them though.
This set is nice complement to the last one but on its own 2 heavy figs is a weird choice. I wish they put a regular trooper instead to represent the assalt class so this pack on its own would represent all 4 basic classes. And the last pack has been discontinued so it limits how people can get a reg 501st fig. I feel like we went 1 step back compared to the hoth battle pack
$20 dollars for a tiny battle pack, the greed of LEGO knows no bounds
I wish they’d stop giving clones red blaster bolts on the boxart, as well as stop giving their vehicles red spring loaded projectiles… it’s like giving episode 6 Luke a blue lightsaber
Figures look nice, cannon’s nice, but $20 is still way too much for a battle pack and I want to know why things have changed so quickly Inflation? Disney license? Do the amount of minifigs dictate the price of sets now? It’s so weird to me that even THREE years ago, these were $15 and had about the same amount of content.