Scenario Based Loadouts | Injured Neighbor Needs Help
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- It's easy to get sucked into the trap of setting up Loadouts around a particular platform. What we've been shifting towards is building Loadouts around likely "scenarios". This is one of those "thought exercises" that we play to mentally work through whether or not we have everything we want and need. These "games" have taught us to cut out a lot of unnecessary gear and opened our eyes to some items that we need.
What would you add/remove for this situation and what would you like to see as the next scenario we work through?
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00:00 The Setup
02:03 Countdown Begins
07:03 10-Minute Warning
12:03 5-Minute Warning
16:03 Explain & Apologize
Dude this was awesome, this definitely needs to be a series
Completely agree!!! Even my wife watched it in the car with me. Please do other scenarios. Having to make a supply run to look for fuel stabilizers, bleach, or salt.
I was thinking the same. 🎯
Yes!
I think this was a great video. I haven't seen a prepped video actually go through a scenario and attempt to prepare a load out for a specific mission. Nonetheless, I thought he was a bit over prepared for combat and under prepared for medical scenarios. Reading through the comments seems others agree, but I really appreciate that people are having the discussion and thinking what they would do in similar circumstances.
So much for the concept of a "Minute man".
“Neighbor injured himself a mile away in broad daylight. Gonna need nods and a gps…”
LoL yeah he was gearing up like the militia just got mustered, while there is a poor broken old man lying on the forest floor waiting on him.
@@Uncle_Jacob old timer bled out for sure.
hes fantasy roleplaying hard lol
1 mile could turn into 10 miles. Broad daylight could turn into the dead of night. It’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Guys...
Almost the entire thing he's focusing on is combat loadout. I was expecting the first thing for him to say was a stretcher or litter kit for carrying the hurt old man. Wasn't even mentioned until he remembers he has a hammock in a pack that he casually remembers can be used as a litter as an after thought. I guess some redemption. Talks about organizing a comms plan with his wife. No talk at all about communicating with other buddies or neighbors like "hey the old dude has hurt himself, I'm going to go check on him, if there's been no comms check in an hour then send guys to assist", or even trying to get a multi-man group together to haul out the deer AND the injured old man while also providing security.
Virtually no focus on the task actually at hand.
Of course you need fight kit and that needs to be addressed. But for craps sake, all of the stuff that actually matter to solve the problem wasn't even mentioned.
Way too much time was spent on talking about the rifle than the medical that may be necessary.
A splint? How about figuring out how you're gonna get an injured 70 year old man a mile to assistance while still defending yourself and him?
What if you get there and he's in shock?
Do you have thermal blankets, stims, or other aids that can be used to treat that?
Would really appreciate a follow up video to review this.
Thank you
Couldn't have said it better.
He said in the video he has a bivvy sack, lightweight jacket and in the larger medical bag in his pack an emergency blanket along with more tourniquets and additional medical tools. I do think that big of a pack is overkill but he was probably only 20-25lbs on the pack...maybe a little more but not by much. The jeans are fine because at the end of a tactical jaunt through the woods they will be smudged up and plenty of location correct colors mashed into them. Plus not everyone rolls out in tactical pants and shirts 100% of their life.
Yeah this seems like a general combat equipment layout not a 1 mile away assist
I couldn't care less about his jeans or whatever.
What's tragic is the equipment.
What's he going to do if he rolls up and finds the poor old guy has broken his back and is going into shock and needs delicate care?
Roll him into the hammock and drag him a mile through the woods, alone? He talked about not caring much about water because he could get some from neighbors. That old guy, if in shock, is going to need fluids and immediate care. What's he going to do, leave him there and go knock on doors?
This is something that we would potentially use emergency helicopter crews for extracting sensitive injuries, and the most preparative thought that's gone into treatment and removal is a hammock and medical kit.
The first thing to do is pump the breaks, reestablish contact with the guy and determine the extent of the injury, then if the injury is bad enough and enemies are suspected in the area, coordinate with a squad sized group for one fireteam to provide security and one to treat him and safely and delicately evacuate him.
The injured farmer is a mile away, who you've spent enough time with to set up radio codes, and you know most of the farmers in the area, in Tennessee, in the spring time while you're wearing a t-shirt, and you want to pack a GPS and a woobee... 🤯
Never mind, the farmer died from shock while you packed.
Pancho liner is helpful if the insured person is in shock. Got to keep him warm.
@BearClawAK47
I agree with the use for preventing shock. Also good for making a litter. That said, he was talking about using it in conjunction with a shooting matt as a sleep system for a one mile trip. 🤪
I agree, there’s quite a bit to criticize with the scenario and the choice of loadout. Also, they’re in rural Tennessee which has a pretty low population density. If shit really is hitting the fan it’s only been 3 days and 90% of the bad guys are gonna be making their ways to more densely populated and commercially built up locations to loot/steal. Much of his load out was unnecessary/overkill and didn’t really seem to address the actual mission. Additionally, as a married man and father of 4, if things are really that bad out that u need to bring all that gear there’s no way I’m leaving my family alone, throwing my wife a rifle and basically telling her good luck.
With that being said, I think the point of this video isn’t who’s the most right, but that it gets all of us thinking and talking about it.
@D S Yeah it's good discussion, and people should carry whatever gives them a warm fuzzy feeling which aids in boosting their confidence. But, if someone's first instinct is to pack a GPS and compass to move one mile to help someone in their neighborhood network, there's a problem bigger than what gear to pack...
@@infantryshooter lol, yeah the gps threw me for a loop too
Packing for a 10+ mile medical assist, for a 1 mile medical assist. Weighing down with way too much. -current combat medic - US Army
Exactly!!
Right, as I stated, neighbor didnt day anything about a firefight. He is injured.
Why all the useless gear? If you suspect hes been injured do to foul play, 1 guy isnt rescuing him.
Bring medical gear, a way to move the injured. Scope out the area, if bad guys are around leave and get help.
Use operation gothic serpent as an example of why you always bring more than you need. “One is none, two is one”.
@@chasekaleta8533 More of what is relevant, not a pack full of useless gear. Youre not engaging am enemy force solo.
Your going to help someone hurt. Bring medical, brung more than you think youll need, sure.
Bring some stuff to maybe spend yhe night. Some water, some high calorie food, some blankets.
Stabilize your patient, then if you have to leave and go get help. He isnt going into a war torn city. He is walking a mile into the woods to get someone hurt. He has no ability to move them, no ability to stabilize in place, or even treat them.
@@mcal9320 so then what happens if he encounters a threat on the way there or on the way back? He will have to defend himself and more than likely fight his way back home. Or if he has to hunker down for the night to stabilize his patient, if your in any position over day/night, especially when you have next to zero intel you should do some hasty camo to your position so you can work/provide security more effectively.
The point of the video is to demonstrate a thought exercise and a different form of training to better hone the skills of the majority of civilians in what very well could be a less than ideal situation. Your used to packing out minimal and specialized gear because in the military we have not only high levels of specialization, but also a HUGE amount of logistical support.
Going to provide aid to someone can easily turn into a much more difficult and dangerous endeavor than you initially realized, especially if there is the possibility of a threat involved or in this case, the complete unknown.
This training, even as a mental game and not going through the steps of setting everything up physically, is invaluable.
I hope you're a paid shill, not an actual organic commenter saying this action movie fantasy cringe is "INVALUABLE" lmao
@@magicponyrides you don’t think practicing scenarios is good practice?
@@showtime1235 If someone wants to dress up as Spider Man and run around pretending to shoot webs, that's cool, but don't call it "INVALUABLE TRAINING" lol
Yes invaluable. As in not having any value.
@@somethinsomethin7243You should probably look up the word "invaluable" because you don't know what it means.
A single one man recon, medic, security, extraction team comprised of an overloaded and unsupported dude in blue jeans with a thrown together hodgepodge kit of instagram photo fillers and failure points.
Bro, put 5 40lb sandbags on a tarp and try to pull it a mile with that kit on.
I might be missing the whole point of this exercise, but when Drew said the scenario is taking place during WROL and it’s gotten to the point that you’re not leaving the house without a rifle and several mags, I don’t think it would be wise to leave your wife and newborn alone to go assist a neighbor. But then that makes for a boring video.
Nice work guys, keep these coming!!
Taking your thought one step further, if your neighbor is not accountable enough to not engage in high risk activity during temporary WROL, then you have to seriously consider if it’s worth risking the exposure to assist them. Leaving a wife and newborn potentially for more than 4 hours is out of the question in that situation.
@@ArmoredSecurity41both you are 100% correct, anything can and will happen to you’re wife and kids in that short amount of time that you’re gone trying to help your neighbor unfortunately.
Scenario: Neighbor is 1 mile away he leaves you the aforementioned message on comms what do you do?
Response: Radio back "LOL GET REKT"
My exact thought! I get it's just a scenario but as soon as he said wife and newborn, my reply would be not going.
Your wife and baby need food, fresh deer is a worthy risk.
The #1 skill required during times of stress is the ability to do hard/dangerous/risky activities without getting hurt.
I worked the road as a LEO for 30 years. My patrol car was issued to me and I was the only operator. My agency issued me a ton of gear. While all that gear was nice, as a first responder and by that I mean I have only seconds to respond, none of that gear really helped me. I just acted.
If it wasn’t on-body, it got left behind.
Learn to pack your gear like some military units do. I’m your pack is all your nice to have stuff. On your person, duty belt, is your life or death stuff.
If you come under threat, you’ll need to jettison your pack but you’ll still have mission critical on person.
You may not be able to recover dumped gear. Live to see and fight another day.
Thoughts about this video, very cool. Thank you.
Yeah...Neighbor calls because he is injured. Didnt say anything about being in a firefight. If he was in a gun fight, a single person isnt going to help him. Dude brings a rifle and full bug out bag, but no medical supplies and no way to carry an injured person.
Why? Ill bring my full medical bag, along with a mega mover. Along with other people if possible.
Trauma bag with IVs, LR, TXA, vasopressors, pain medication, D50. Splints, wound care. BP Cuff, Pulse oximeter, stethoscope. Mega Mover and webbing with Drings. Maybe a pistol, lighting, radio.
Dude is going to show up to a 60 year old that fell out af a tree. With Bilateral femur fractures. But hey, hes got a rifle and a jet boil...Gee thanks, guess Ill just die, so glad I called for help
This video is ridiculous
At least he packed a shovel so he can bury the corpse 😂
You guys are doing a great job on topics, video quality, and editing. Top notch work for sure
No, he’s really not. This video is ridiculous. Per his own scenario this casualty is a mile away. That’s not far, he packs a ridiculous amount of irrelevant crap and almost nothing 1st aid related or things to help get someone injured out of the woods. I enjoy this type of video, but this is unrealistic, seriously bad advise and actual larping. I can imagine that the first thing that’s going to happen is the old man is going to say he broke his leg falling out of a tree stand and can’t walk. Homeboy’s reaction will inevitably be “wait here, i need to go get help”.
I like these mental "what if?" scenarios guys please continue to make this a series
Emergency Scenario Games,
WROL Practice, SHTFG(games).... whatever the name, this is a great thing to practice. Instead of camping, friends or families could role play different scenarios like this to prep and practice. This could be fun af too.
-Scenarios
Medical Patient Recovery
Team Member Retrieval
Reconnaissance
Threat Elimination
Gas/water Acquisition
Etc...
Honestly, if its only a mile by foot, Im just taking a sling bag with some basic med gear since its likely a gunshot wound or broken limb, some gear to help process the deer, my handgun woth extra mags, a headlamp amd backup flashlight in case it gets dark, a radio to call home, and maybe a simple chest rig with my rifle. Unless there's major threars nearby, cant see needing much more than that, unless the old timer gives me some if the deer meat as a thank you, in which case Id maybe bring a larger, emptier backpack instead of the sling bag with some clean garbage bags to haul the meat.
Key info: hunter in tree stand has a deer down and is injured in hypethetical SHTF.
Highest case of what happened is hunter shot a deer and fell out of tree stand. Change of what you need you need a game pack, rope, game bags, medical for broken bones. Priority is stabalize injury and then find and process the deer because that is worth a couple weeks of food for you.
The ending was awesome. Imagine also, 15 mins to potentially save a life. And you're showing off all of your gear. "Check out all of my tac-swag bruh!" 😂 love the video, simulations are a phenomenal form of training.
Love the philosophy of this channel. Keep up the good work, y’all. It’s good to feel like
I’m not the only man living this life.
Looool Jesus dude
I think you're over-thinking it. You don't really need all that sustainment gear.
He's only a mile away, so you don't need water purification, shelter, or camping gear. You're going to more than likely be leaving your house, grabbing him, and staying the night at his place before heading home again.
There are hostiles, so I would grab a plate carrier, because if it's worth grabbing a gun, it's worth grabbing armour.
He's hurt, so I'd grab my ifak, tools so I can make an improvised splint, and a large bandada. Should cover most first aid scenarios.
Some slings/paracord, incase I have to drag the guy.
And I'd grab my Vorn hunting backpack, and stick a couple walking poles in the rifle area, (for making splints/helping buddy walk) and grab some skinning and butchering tools so that if I can get buddy mobile/stable I can pack up the deer.
Great idea for a series. Since you mentioned the economy is down and resources are scarce, I would have prioritized getting the deer meat out more than was mentioned in the video. You brought a knife which is good for skinning, gutting, and cleaning, but what about transporting it once it’s chopped up? Meat is enough of a priority that he was out risking injury to get some, so I think adding a couple more of those black bags you had in would be a good idea
Honestly, coulda just took an aid bag something to move a casualty and a empty bag for all the meat
This definitely needs to be a reoccurring series for different scenarios.
I dig the content you've been putting out, but a few things to add from a professional mountain guide that spends 150+ days a year in the mountains.
1. Too much stuff. A single mile walk or recon will at max take an hour while solo and that's if you're traveling strictly through the woods with no trails.. You've prepped enough for a 10+ mile journey + multiple overnights.
2. Know thy fitness. I know I can climb uphill, off trail, for 1000' with a full 60L pack on in under 40 minutes. Knowing your own fitness is very helpful.
3. Speed is safety. We say it all the time in the mountains. The less time you spend out there, the less exposure to risk you'll have.
4. Large packs are whack. When folks have large packs for small missions, they tend to end up filling it with unneeded items. I've got a feeling you'd be able to make a 30L work instead of that 55-60L. My pack I use for multi-day ski guiding missions is a 30L full of medical, winter layers (utah), repair, and food.
5. No mention of food... A couple snickers bars and energy chews will get ya a long way.
6. In terms of rounds, unless it's a known fight, carrying anything more than your average on-duty cop (3ish mags) would be overkill. I know you ended up with an appropriate amount but that's just a thought.
Anyways, take it or leave it. Thanks again!
He will take it. He plans on taking everything else he owns on his "mission".
Been thinking about the 1 scenario and 2 the proposed loadout.
Starting with Number 2 first- way too much stuff for a 1 mile extraction. Rifle, microchest rig, full med bag, cordage, skinning knife, 3L of frozen water, meat bags, iodine, and a mostly empty backpack. Priority is treat and help exfil injured neighbor. Secondary is quickly field dress deer and get meat cooled down. No need for entry tools, sleeping pads or woobies.
Honestly It makes more sense to take a quad or truck - get in, extract your neighbor to the truck, get the deer, haul ass back home to treat the wound and dress the deer.
Now as for the scenario, there is almost no way I am leaving my wife and newborn. Your wife is in no condition to fight and if pushed off your homestead, both your wife and child will die. Your neighbor should know this. Secondly, any activities of members of a MAG during WROL should be coordinated - no independent hunting trips or equally dumb action that takes you away from your home without making sure bases are covered. Surprise emergencies should be suspected as either an ambush or diversionary action to draw you away from your resources.
The guy is hurt (probably cant walk) but can communicate. You need to extract him (and possibly the deer) back home. What do you do?
Get there fast, quick patch IF NEEDED, load him up and drive out. An electric (or gas) dirt bike would do. ATV too.
No backpack is preferred. Can pack that and rifle on the bike if needed. He's 1 mile out.
You can come back for the deer.
Loving your guys progress and growth. I hope this project carry’s on for years to come. God bless 👌🏻
Puts two mags down , grabs gigantic bag
Buddy fell out of the tree stand...
Better take my tomahawk and entrenching tool
Trying to imagine how my life could have possibly gone so wrong that I have a wife, newborn, and I actually talk to my neighbors.😬
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What a blessing it is to live in a time where we can test out lots of different equipment like this and perform these mental games. However I think your surplus of equipment led you to overcomplicate this issue.
I have a pre packed assault pack in my closet. I think this scenario only requires a few essentials. Expanded IFAK( especially a litter), signaling items, 16 oz of water, and maybe two extra rifle mags. With these bare bone essentials I could have been in and out of the door with my rifle in around a minute or two. I would use my time in route to try and coordinate with a few buddies to act as an ambulance if necessary.
This scenario is much more akin to being a first responder than a reconnaissance mission. I think your training has you wired towards the latter. I understand being worried about contingencies, but he is only a mile from your door.
I couldn't tell you guys enough how much I appreciate what you are doing and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. Don't get me wrong all you military guys and gals but there are a ton of capable civilians that live and breathe this kind of lifestyle not because we are wanna be's but because we understand it's importance in the concrete jungle that many of us live in. WE ARE DIRTY CIVILIAN STRONG!! 🇺🇸 Keep doing what you are doing and never forget the fallen. God bless
This is why I have 2 backpacks exactly for scenarios like this. One for quick 1-2 days and another 3+ days. Great video on purposeful gear load outs.
Alternatively, I could load my pack for short trips and have the stuff for longer set aside to load when needed in a box. You should not plan, load, and start movement for a week long op in only 15 minutes.
@@christophergreen2892a week long op? This is a few hour at most.
But your correct in the amount of shit he brought could probably be good for a week
Doesn't bring more water but brings an etool?
Bros taking electronic ear pro and backup ear pro alongside a gun that has a can on it...
@@andymoyle5673 literally the most retarded shit he could bring lmfao
one mile away brings a bunch of shit he doesnt need for unrealistic scenarios
Love the concept and we should all do this more. Thanks for setting the example.
This isn't a critique, just an alternative approach: keep the EDC you already have, grab a med bag and your electric dirt bike. That's 1 minute. Send up the drone and scout the route to the injured neighbor and surrounding area. Even a crappy drone covers that distance in under 2 minutes. You're now less than 5 minutes in and have more intel than you would if you had physically made the trek. All clear? Fire up the bike and you're at the neighbor in about the same time it took to decide if you should pack a SAW pouch full of mags back in the garage. Route's swarming with bad guys or unknowns? You shouldn't be heading their solo, time to grab friends and re-think.
Hindsight is 20/20 and gaming this out ahead of time obviously gives a huge advantage. I'm just suggesting that intel and speed probably beats pack loadouts full of mags, gear, and iodine tablets 9 times out of 10. I think a lot of us approach this stuff like it's still WW2.
Great content! Very valuable information and training as always! Keep up the great work
I love this scenario. Everyone should aspire to be prepared to run a rescue operation for their neighbors.
Great video, seemed like unnecessary prep for a mile though. Maybe if you were making a day trip but you should be able to hit a mile through the woods in like 15 minutes tops if your in a hurry. Especially if you just throw on a chest rig and get to walking but I enjoyed seeing the gear and would definitely consider it in a 5-10 mile scenario.
Agree except it's tough to know FOR SURE that it'll only be a quick trip with no complications. Better to have it and not need it (within reason, of course).
@Trey Babino right, but this isn't within reason. This is like 50 total pounds of gear for a mission that will require him presumably single handedly extracting this old man. Very physical task unless he is ambulatory.
We need more scenarios! This is really helpful for all of us
Old man "Joshy my back hurts bad and I'm bleeding out." Josh "Grabbing my change of socks and balaclava pepaw!"
I'm gonna be that guy, because i already see a lot of positive responses.
Having a bag that you need to adapt for a general mission set is hugely impractical. And i know we can't all have bags for everything obviously. But you should have at least 2 bags, hopefully 3 for these situations. These can double as hiking bags, camping bags, edc bags, bugout bags, etc.
If shit needs to be done, odds are it needs to be done now. Having a close range bag and Long range bag ready to go that cover 90% of the mission set without having a ton of useless stuff is huge. It shouldn't take you more than a couple of minutes to be ready to roll for any general mission. Stack anything else dictated by the situation, but it's minimal. 15 minutes is a fucking eternity in bad situations. I know there's all the explaining, and that ate up a lot of time, I'm just saying. 90 seconds should be what you're shooting for here for most people in most situations. Have your stuff setup in an accessible way, know what's in what, grab and go. Figure out the rest as you move.
Any chance of a complete gear list breakdown? Would be super helpful!
Absolutely awesome guys! Please keep making this insanely good content!
This was awesome. I really hope you do more of these scenario based loadouts!
You need to have all that stuff on a rack then have some different size packs. I would have already been on my way and half way to the target. You don’t need all of this stuff for just a mile.
would you consider doing a video on your nvg harness + boonie hat mod?
Cool series. It's nice to have a talk through of your process and reasoning for the decisions to keep or bring items.
First off, thanks for posting this. I think it definitely fits the bill of inspiration.
Some thoughts/AAR for Josh: With the information you received it is MOST likely that your neighbor either fell out of his stand, got injured by the deer somehow, or was otherwise injured while on his hunting excursion.
There is a lessor likely but also a much higher risk outcome of a looter attacking your neighbor and wanting to steal his deer. This may have resulted in a physical struggle leaving him injured or maybe the worst case, a GSW.
With that information along with all of the considerations (Time, Risk, Equipment available, Family) it seemed to me that the priority should be in decision making. I understand you want to explain why you are making the gear selections you did. That’s all good. But if you have 15 minutes…why are we unpacking everything and explaining the brands and such. You could argue this is just educational. But I would be inspired to have seen you energetically get your things together only as much as you needed. And then actually spend your remaining minutes PLANNING. Deciding with or without your wife what to do, how this will work. A backup plan in case you get compromised.
As for the gear, I didn’t see gloves. This would be a huge priority for both working on the deer, or rendering aid to your friend. I am making an assumption that you had gloves somewhere in your medical gear, maybe some extras would be good. Also, hand sanitizer? It’s good you kept wipes in your gear. My biggest concern would be that you have a neighbor who is immobilized and you also need to get a deer out of there. So if I MUST decide to hike there instead of taking my vehicle as close as possible, I would make sure I have bags to either cut chunks of meat into and make sure to leave my pack as empty as possible in preparation for that. Additionally, the hammock straps could work as a hasty litter, but generally works best with multiple people. The realistic scenario in my head is you will need to secure the deer and either pack it out and then transport your neighbor back to his house or the hospital. OR, you leave the deer and prioritize your friend depending on his condition.
I have no issue with packing the long gun and some extra magazines though, I would have not ditched my EDC seeing as I’m likely to need to encounter either his wife, or possibly go into town to get him to the hospital.
I’m sure you guys have already done the next part to this series and have answers to all of the things I’m mentioning here. I don’t have all of the context or believe you did anything drastically wrong or by doing what I thought you would be doing it “right”. I’m excited to see what happens next. Cheers.
Good analysis.. I did see that he had leather gloves tethered to his chest rig.
@@patrickavondale8653 yes, I noticed that too. Very good call. I’ll clarify, I meant to say multiple pairs of hygienic/medical gloves. When working between an animal and also a patient it would be highly advisable (I believe at least) to prevent blood pathogens and cross contamination.
Now make it into a card game so we can play at home. Love this type of content!
This is genius. You are on to something here. I can see preparedness and survival style board games as well.
A grid down board game that's like Oregon Trail.
This was awesome y’all. Super happy that this channel is exploding like it is. Seems like every time I check the subs it’s up 10 or 20k. Y’all are doing fantastic work!
MORE of THIS. Keep doing scenario based FTX's. This is the content I've been searching for.
Awesome exercise, we should all be doing this. That said, I think this is WAY to much crap to be packing for the stated mission. The goal for this mission should be a chest rig only load out. I’ve spent a week in the backcountry with less than this. It’s hard to get out of the mindset of, “I can imagine some scenario where I MIGHT need this thing, so I’d better haul it around,” and transition to “what am I most likely to need?” Bear in mind, every ounce of weight costs you something, and if you need to get in and out quickly and avoid contact, all that stuff goes counter to your mission.
Key to this is training with your squad and dividing responsibilities. Not everyone needs to be a breacher, and not everyone needs to be a medic, but you should all have knowledge about others’ skill set. Look at how the pros gear up. They would not be hauling a medium ruck to a 12 hour (likely less) mission.
Agreed. I'll add that anything that can do 2 jobs saves weight. A shovel with one side extra sharpened is a shovel and an axe, for example.
This is why I would look at a 4x4 ATV (or UTV but they get pricey). Goes off road, faster then walking, and you can carry gear w/ trailer for support roles. Not as slick as a dirt bike but imo more capable and easier to learn.
In a scenario of unrest like this you would definitely want to go on foot and not attract attention
@Jacob Rice I feel that, but I'm not dragging some dude a mile on foot. Real talk, if I have to sneak around the woods a mile from my front door to be safe, then I wouldn't leave my family alone and call neighbors to help. I'm a little lost on why he didn't call for support while gearing up.
My thoughts exactly. Roll up with atv and trailer, toss deer and neighbor in, do any first aid necessary, and scedaddle. In/out 15 minutes tops.
An electric dirt bike for about $6k could get you there in 2 minutes. Then, if you need to come back for specific medical, you can run back again. Spend less time packing and wondering, and more time helping.
Mission drives the gear vs gear drives the mission
Thank you Brothers! Take this so far, we are watching and learning! Heck, turn it into a movie!
Damn, I really just got tricked into watching 15 minutes of a man packing a bag.
Like I get the intent, but a video of a dude packing for a trip is not compatible with my ADHD brain. The brain says pack what you need and go. I think it doesn't help that he's trying to explain and pack at the same time which makes both processes less clear.
But fundamentally the process itself is simple, but it's made more confusing by the fact I didn't really feel like I understood his plan at any point. I didn't know if he was feeling like he was going to move over land for the 1mi or drive the 5mi or what perception of the relative risks of those options were. So he's packing this stuff and the way that he is and I kind of get it but I don't fully understand why he's doing it because I don't understand what he plans to do about the prompt. Like I'm sure it's in there between all the bagpacking but idk I would have expected a section first where we talk about how we're going to get there and how that's going to affect what we bring.
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Former US taken over by enemy insurgents.
More like, gut feeling.
@@thecaptain5026 it’s flat out in the open
The more I watch this channel, the more I love it. Keep up the good work! 💪🇺🇲
Need more of these scenario based videos. Good stuff. Also digging the work bench.
Seeing quite a few comments RE the loadout Josh uses here being too 'combat' centric for a rural response to a neighbor being injured while hunting (most likely due to a fall from a tree-stand, or perhaps self-inflicted GSW - at least, that's where my brain went). There's probably some reasonable criticism, counterpoints, or other considerations worth looking at, I'm sure. Maybe the way in which the loadout was presented on camera, with the rifle being the first main tool discussed, resulted in some perceiving that the guys were suggesting it was the most important element?
But a cool bit that clicked for me when looking at Josh run through his main pack, and also relatable to the firearms space, was the idea of 'general purpose'. We talk about the civilian 'do-all' rifle (the General Purpose Rifle) that is configured to be cross-utilized through the majority of most likely use-cases. I saw the tools and loadout in the pack, much the same way. Maybe not all perfect for the scenario at hand...maybe some tools that ultimately stayed in the final loadout seemed a bit overkill for a 2-mile out and back hike through familiar terrain, and perhaps may have been better swapped out for a more dedicated litter of some sort in this specific scenario...but, the pack was configured and loaded initially for a variety of use-cases, and ready to go at a moments notice. Having a pack pre-loaded and ready, that you can grab and be relatively confident will have 'some' relevant tool for the majority of circumstances, seems like a solid takeaway.
What's really cool about this series, is that as someone currently living in proximity to a major population center, the 'same' scenario (get one mile to assist an injured friend) has a wildly different set of potential requirements. Good idea on this series, guys. Looking forward to more.
I appreciate the practicality of the video...
...but that's a lot of stuff...and expensive stuff...
Do it again, but for us poors running surplus Alice packs and FRS radios.
Probably my favorite video topic from you guys so far… would like to see the part two scenario of how this plays out. Feedback: not sure that enough thought was given to your neighbor in need from a water / food standpoint. Neighbor may have been stuck without water or resources. The pack is very focused on your sustainment but for a short trip where you’re assumed rested hydrated etc and you’re in good shape. Also I would have prioritized wife/baby first - spend the time clearly communicating with her and having a plan in place for her protection. I’d rather be late to neighbor knowing I’d done everything to prepare my family during my absence.
These are my kind of videos right here. Hope to see more like it. Keep up the good work. Great video.
Before I get into why I don't think this is a good scenario I do want to say that I really like the overall concept of this video. Gearing up with a rational behind it is a great exercise. As stated in the comments before, I would love to see this as a series of "What If" Scenarios.
With that here is what I would do if posed with this kind of scenario:
Step 1) Don't leave your family for the neighbor in the tree stand.
Step 2) Fortify your current location, take inventory of your stocks and gear. Prepare your vehicle for immediate evac.
Step 3) If coms are up, which if your neighbor is calling they are, then put out message to all trusted neighbors to do the same as you are and let them know that if their position is compromised to head to your location. More eyes and ears makes for better defense, even if it does mean more mouths to feed. You would hope that if you had to evac your family that your neighbors would take you in too.
DON'T go out on a fools errand to play hero and rescue your neighbor from a tree stand. Heaven forbid you get back and your wife and newborn are gone or worse dead.
You should always take as much ammunition as you can because in a fire fight, "ah man I brought way too much ammo" has never been said.
But there has been if there is no fight which is far more common. You should carry as much as you can without causing undue limitations to mobility
I see you’ve never carried 6 mags on a plate carrier all day.
Great video guys!
Best video yet. We need more of these
Great idea for a series...makes you really think about how you stage your gear at home. While there will be many differences of opinion on gear, that is one of the pluses of this scenario. People can learn from others. Nice job 👍
Love this format!! Amthis type of video makes so much sense. Keep them coming.
More of these! I love thought exercises.
Wow! I love this. Very enjoyable and also informative.
First off, thank you for putting out fresh content. Im excited to see more. Since you asked for feedback, I would say a little more detail, time of day, population, what your route is like, etc. Personally, I would be rolling out with a Medium Molle Ruck for a mile med assist. Worst cast, I can run a 7ish minute mile to get back home…..so I would expect to need much. Hope that helps and good luck, keep it up!
Better than any series on TV currently. Well done. Good host. Make more.
More of these please! Very cool idea.
Definitely make this a series!
For such a trip, one need not look past the basics. Simple handgun, glock, sig, etc spare mags, IFAK (why not?), fixed blade, lighter, water, flashlight. Just your EDC items, but to tailor for this situation, probably some mid term medical supplies; antibiotics, splints, painkillers.
No. More.
Mobility and stealth in such situations are paramount, and all the above can fit on a belt rig, or small pack.
Yaaas! My weekly late night talk show!
Outstanding!
This is pretty much a gear dump vid under the guise of a shtf scenario and I’m here for it 🤙
as always excellent quality video and information
This video was a fantastic idea !! Keep this content coming.
Please make more of these scenario videos. So good.
Cool video! Love the format
This video concept has a ton of potential. Keep it up!
Thank you guys!😊
Super cool video idea looking forward to seeing more of these
What an amazing video series idea. Keep it up.
1. Mr. John Deere don't sound hurt.
2. 5 miles by road at 45mph is 6.6 minutes in a car. 1 mile by foot (depending on terrain) is about 15 minutes at best.
There is no need for all this extra-ness. You just look like a juicy target looking for a fight. The old guy is gonna be like "Why the f*** you didn't bring a car? He killed a deer. Or lets say "I have shot a deer" is code for "I've been shot." Maybe he got in a gun fight with someone else and won. Hospitals aren't going to collapse in 30 days. Get your car, gets some straps, get a plate carrier with some mags and a gun and haul ass. If he's in a dire situation, take the deer as a loss and haul his butt to the nearest hospital. If not, gut the deer, strap it up and take his ass home and he can drive his own POV to the hospital, while you get your ass back home. Don't forget he owes you gas money or at least a leg of deer. LARP responsibly.
Glad to see the Eno hammock straps in there. Their hammock set up is my go to for personal bug out living in a wooded area
Excellent video. Would love to see more of these.
I love my OSS silencer. Guys, this is great work!
How dare you leave us in suspense 😅 this is awesome training thanks please keep it coming
Good to know that I’ve got time for a sponsor shout out when setting this kit up.
Absolutely LOVE your content guys! Keep it up! That was a lot of useless gear and wasted time though....
Wow, what a cool video. Love what you guys are doing at DC
I would love to see more of these exercises to demonstrate how different missions require different thoughts and loadouts. Great video
See the exercise? He never left his garage. This was nothing but another gear-porn loadout video. I thought there might at least be a part two showing what happened once he left the house.
Good senerio training. Enjoyed it. Keep it up.
Gosh dang I'm early. Love your guys channel. God bless
The guy your running off to save is gone LMFAO!
Great video…. It had me looking forward to seeing the mission.
I’d like to give a shoutout to the ENO hammock straps. I was on a dirtbike ride in the mountains and a buddies bike broke down. I happened to have my ENO straps in my pack (I use my riding pack for little day hikes sometimes- because good hydration system) So we looped one strap from foot peg to foot peg and we towed him miles back to the truck. So they can definitely be used for unconventional purposes!
Awesome video guys!!
Definitely need more of these videos. Also would be nice a scenario with more budget options. Im a medic but in my country we are not allowed to have weapons plus shotguns handguns only. Love you guys really helpful videos just to get an idea. Thanks for taking the time into it.
Love this kind of content 🎉
Seeing more people running a top dot makes me happy.
Check the ballistics and make sure your zero is right though.
Mine all run a +4.5 height over bore, 75 yd zero on the 20", 65 on the 16" and 55 on the 10.5"