Assault vs Sustainment vs Low-Vis Kit for Civilians
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
- Civilians with no backup, no logistical support, and no intel network are often marketed kit that mirrors top tier military units who do have all those assets. We break down three different types of "Loadouts", the mindset behind them, and discuss which is actually the most relevant for the average prepared citizen.
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00:00 Delusions of Grandeur
1:16 Assault Kit
9:51 The Issue
16:54 Sustainment & Recon
22:29 Low Vis Kit
Half of warfare is logistics. You can be great in tactics, but if you run out of food, water, ammo you're done
Novices talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.
In the American military 85% of the military is there to supply and support the 15% that fights.
.22 LR Glock 44 would be handy in many situations. Light weight, small, ammo weigh is low and it sure is semi quiet with suppressor. Ultimate jog gun in your pocket.
@@Resident-cb3yz the only problem I have with 22lr is on average they are not as reliable as center fire rounds. But you are not wrong.
"An army marches on its stomach." -- Napoleon
"number one rule in a gun fight is bring more friends with more guns then the bad guy"- Earl Harbinger
Number one rule in a gun fight is not to be in one without proper background and logistics XD
Then the bad guy what? What did the bad guy do?
Rule #1: Don't be in one if you don't have to be
@@PoliticallyInsensitive it's from a book series called (monster hunter international) I'm sure if anyone who likes guns and monsters like wear wolves and vampires getting shot up and lit on fire will have a good read.
Number one rule in a gunfight is don't get into a gunfight!
"Especially after it cools down a little bit..." this is so real it hurts. High humidity drains my soul.
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You ain’t wrong my brother
Come to Southern Idaho, help us keep it free….and enjoy 0 humidity.
Welcome to Central Texas in the summer.
Humidity and heat both in the high triple digits!
(Joke, keyboard critters. Return to cheezy poof scarfing. ) Or at least high 90s each... Fahrenheit for our non-US friends.
@@buffewo6386bro south florida is horrible right now
Combat vet here, my buddies ask me how i would assult a gun fight situation all the time.... my first plan is avoid it at all cost. I don't have a 6 man team pushing with me plus if I'm out I'm usually with my wife and kids. Im going to get them far far away.
Running out of ammo in a middle of a gun fight is my biggest fear ..... mogadishu must have been horrible for the rangers during black hawk down incident
According to some of the books that were written about it they did get an ammo resupply
Some of them got resupplied in stripper clips when they lacked magazines.
At Chosin Reservoir there are accounts of MGs getting resupplied with even the wrong caliber.
I’m sure you’ll be fine going from your house to your local Wal-Mart.
I never understood why people never think to conserve ammo.
If as a civilian, you’ve gone through four mags, you’re probably no longer alive
I say it all the time and I’ll say it again here. Less contractor, more MACV SOG. The basic load for an infantryman is 210 rounds. There is a reason it’s called “the basic load.”
Also I believe it would be a good idea to review what a patrol base is, what it can be used for and why it would be good idea to carry a collapsible day pack in your larger pack if your going to be out for several days.
Yep. Its enough to get by for platoon level react to contact situatuons. And its centered around the assumption you're gonna have more in your ruck at an ORP.
Less Reliant on Luxuries
More Tack and Survivalist
damn americans with their superior logistics. over here in vietnam the standard load for inf is 120 rounds
Ill take it a step further to a bit more realistic scenario. The great depression. Everybody was pretty much out of work and was fending for the selves. Country and farm folk especially in appalachia were the least effected by it because they could sustain themselves. They jnew their neighbors and traded and bartered with them. Kids would be sent out to hunt anything that could be thrown in the pot using single shot shotguns, beatup 22s, and old muzzleloaders. They also tended to the fields and would go fishing. Meanwhile fathers would be out working and trying to find any oddjob or work for food. Women were trying to stretch meals and cooking with less, sewing, and maintaining the household. One quote ive heard said "we had everything we needed we just didnt have money."
I feel like a economic collapse is going be a more likely scenario then invaders coming and parachuting into the country or a huge uprising. But who knows a economic collapse can lead to those scenarios as well.
I think everyonr should have all of this kit mentioned but everyone should have money saved up, silver and gold, a crapton of 22 and shotgun shells, and know how to hunt, fish, grow food, take care of livestock. You should own your own property. I know thats not easy these days.
what civilian situation, real or imagined, do you foresee needing 210 or more rounds in your loadout?
lol “what’s that in yards” has me dying
Lol divide by 3.28, multiply by 3.
@irakennington9701 Yeah, I ain't doing all that. We're in America, so meters should not be the measurement used.
@lolk4530 maybe it's because the army but I use meters for everything even when I'm hunting. I don't even know what a yard looks like
Yesh, @@lolk4530 try being less ignorant. Imperial measurements are the least efficient, they dont play well with others, and they're outdated. I mean, what kind of government uses acre-feet to measure water flow in this day and age? Nobody but the USA and its embarrassing as fuck.
They're pretty interchangeable at short distances. Unless you are calculating long range shots or something else where known distances are critical, a yard and a meter are roughly equivalent.
prepared citizens should be looking at the average infantry kit, not SF kit
@@Sum-dudeI think a better way of saying what he said is that the mission is what decides the kit not the other way around
I'd argue that the vast majority of Americans are not physically fit enough to operate as Infantry...and not skilled enough to operate as SOF.
They might well be able to fill the roles of DMR, static gunners, and perhaps mounted security teams.
@@Sum-dude I think I see what you're trying to say, but SF guys run lighter because they're primarily direct action or recon roles. Average infantry covers a wider spectrum, from DA to recon to assaulting the objective in the open.
If they want to be heavier and more hivis, then yeah.
@@philliplopez1501sof guys arent super humans. average mill person are people who couldnt cut it in civ world. sof guys are just above average people
I definitely think backwoods hunting prepares for a lot of SHTF better than a lot of gear. Can you protect your family? Can you harvest meat and feed your family? All the guys in my unit hunt and walking around in the snow or rain in Alaska has prepared me as much as anything else.
Agreed
this is the way
You in Alaska rn?
@redactedredacted1818 just got PCS'd, I miss it already. I missed the Highland Games this weekend, but if you're up there and anywhere near Homer, definitely go check out the Kachemak Bay Highland Games next weekend. I'm definitely trying to convince my wife to move up there after I get out.
I would say "look at Iraqis and Afghans for your fighting load. Look at Nigerians, Sudanese, and Somalis. Look at the South African and Rhodesian farmers."
Imitate the people who are LIVING the the reality you are preparing for.
Yes! Exactly. Book by Don Shift, Rural Home Defense has a lot of Rhodesian home defense tricks.
Customize the cart, don’t try to reinvent the wheel.
@@oldkbellguy5156 thank you for the tip!!!
Idk, I think a lot of those scenarios listed, if given access to much of what we have available, would desperately want this stuff too. Imitating some poor child soldier's kit probably isn't the best advice. Study the tactics, but try to employ the advantages that having a better kit can provide you. But I will absolutely take a retrofitted Toyota Hilux with a crew serviced gun any day, lol.
@@rogerwood5228 I can agree with up until one has to choose a sustainable weapon system and kit. The US has a lot of disposable items and requires a heavier logistics train. When logistics fail, the third world leads the way.
Also, what do threats look like in the third world? What are the solutions? Model those.
Great presentation to remind us larping is larping and SHTF is survival. Think blend in, be armed, but invisible. Coms, offgrid coms, "tapcode" word coms, be able to have a normal conversation on the surface (they will be listening) and convey all the info you need to. 10 GPS stashes of 2 ea MRE, thick plastic OJ bottle of water, 2 candybars, 30 rds pistol and rifle, placed all about your property or in good locations may be helpful. Knowing what plants and animals you can eat may save your life, from opossum to housecats. Knowing all the local water spigots and carrying a spigot key may be best in town. Know your location, LARP trying to attack your location - learn your strengths and weaknesses. Maybe dig and maintain a spider-hole. Practice hide and seek, learn silent running and light discipline. Buy NODs and later thermals. Learn to live, move and fight in 3 visual spectrums: Vis, NIR and thermal. Train mind, body and soul, train often, spend little, teach family. 🫡
oh my god pipe layers and hitters hahahaaha had me cracking up
I think I p’d laughing 🤣
"I'm not familiar with that industry, at all."
I think its worth pointing out that there's a lot of situations worth preparing for that don't involve going up against an entire platoon of soldiers. shit getting "weird" probably doesn't require 12 mags and weeks of sustainment, but still might require some overt kit
Wearing plates and gear for a living full time, puts a deep understanding of how much it sucks into play. The less you wear, the more agile you are and more likely to survive a rapid, violent encounter. Gear does not equal skill, nor does more armor make you safer. It makes you slower and a easy target. Great video, excellent insight.
I really like how reasonable and measured you guys are. You aren't just here glamorizing violence, guns, and being a "hammer". You talk about the realistic scenarios more than the fantasies. I appreciate that. You always give me tons to think about, and have even driven course correction.
Even still, they seem naïve as far as how politically-motivated and weaponized lawfare and surveillance is getting, and how much information they already have which can then become unperson lists.
The best case for a 'direct action' kit is Oct 7th and an open Southern border. The best lesson learned from that day was that the police were overwhelmed, and the IDF took more than 24 hrs to react. It was the reservist and off duty police that became the first line of defense where civilians were disarmed. In other areas where civilians did have guns, they became the resistance until the IDF could muster up a defense and counter attack.
Is it though? 24hrs without backup, i want more than what a direct action kit can provide.
From that day you can only learn/ confirm that governments love to sacrifice their citizens for their criminal goals .
@@Front-Toward-EnemyI’d say yes still. You really want the armor when the bad guy has buddies and they all have rifles.
For most of the Israeli citizens, the 24 hours wasn’t solid combat. Those who did respond didn’t need to stay away from home the whole time.
If there was a 10/7 in my neighborhood, I’d absolutely start with the assault kit and then plan on resupply from my own house.
@@timunderbakke8756 you need the ammo more. You can still rock body armor with a sustainment kit. Resupplying from your own house only works if you can make it back to your house.
I keep an assault kit ready along with a pack with a speed ball load out. 9mags, food/water and ifak. I run 8 mags on my kit, 5 on my carrier, 2 on my belt and 1 in my rifle. Plus 3 pistol mags and 1 in my pistol. (OH most importantly I TRAIN with it constantly.)
Hydration and Snickers is what you need to get home. Interesting conversation, most of us just want a safe trip to Walmart 😂
Really all you need is a shovel, water, and snickers. Dig a hole and hide in it.
These guys could write an amazing action comedy, easy.
Can you imagine these two doing some sort of tactical Super Troopers movie? //JustTakeMyMoney//
@@xanthraas8241 Less Than Lethal Weapon 😄
USMC.. yes combat action.
Don't go looking for a fight when you can avoid it. We went looking for the fight.. but it was the job. We had a full plan for:
1 - in fill
2 - on site action with clear objectives and clear cut bait point
3 - ex fill
We had supporting units, QRF, docs for immediate care, plan for casvac, all kinds of high volume of fire tools, grenades, smoke, vehicles made for combat.. air support.. I can keep going. You get the point.
Don't go looking for a fight if you can avoid it. If you have to defend yourself and your loved ones.. use extreme violence of action. The whole time you should be looking for a way to break contact and get out safely with your family.
In SHTF or WROL nobody will stop you from dressing like Batman or wearing a cape
Nobody stops me from doing that now. The cape part that is.
@@dasiksupahumancapes should come back into fashion.😊
@@zedhiro6131 Got the Ezio style black caped left shoulder on modern black pinstripe 3/4 length coat.
When the shoes and hat look extra vibrant, no one looks at the waist band
@@zedhiro6131 Mil type poncho is the new cape change my mind
I need a Texas loadout that includes a misting fan.
Florida guy here- monkey butt powder is essential lol.
Lost track of all our three letter acronyms 😂🤣
No lie, I read this comment at the same time that part of the video played.
IRS ATF FBI
The ultimate civilian kits are
Tennis shoes that fit, gray sweatsuit, sunglasses, bottled water, M9 Beretta, MP5 or AR-15.... and a Mars bar!
Proper boots, loose-fitting pants and shirt, a tomahawk and several muskets, powderhorn and shot... and an extremely motivated attitude.
Wayfarers, button down shirt, leather belt, dress pants, a nice pair of dress shoes; AR-15 end a fatality rating similar to Ebola.
Cringe
Never wear sweats... Unless they're grey😏
Le epic and quirky bro!
@@blackout.ghost718 Cringe = Using your time to tell someone they're cringe for expressing enjoyment on the Internet.
@@christopherscott932 cope harder chomo
To add on the cellphone section, if you are worried about using your daily phone in a bad situation, burner phones are still a thing and you can get ones on different networks that might have less traffic or have better service where you are, my family's cabin doesn't have signal on our normal network, so we had burner phones on vacation so we had good signal.
East TN, Late June 2024, >90F: I have been seeing men in long sleeve hoodies, long pants, some in actual coats with my car thermometer showing 95F in urban and suburban areas. They do stick out to me big time and I don’t remember noticing these behaviors in previous years.
Also, WHY are there dudes actually doing this now!?! The guys I’ve noticed, are NOT tacticool dads like who are probably watching this channel.
A Faraday bag with a prepaid burner phone and a battery/powerbank with a cable or two to keep it charged should be an essential piece of kit that everyone should keep in your low vis bag.
You can't buy burner phones anymore
@@turdferguson2863you can, in the US.
A burner phone is useless when the network doesnt work.
If I wasn’t told, I wouldn’t have known you were wearing a plate under that flannel
For real, would have thought it was a medical brace or something like that.
Wearing uniforms has its own shock factor in SHTF a family of 8 dressed like Ghostbusters might not be messed with because people will assume they’re bats*** insane or they’re actually hunting ghosts
And a 'uniform' can really be anything. Even if you're keeping things discrete, something as simple as a dress code can help you quickly ID your buddies at range. If everyone's wearing the same general color of tops, bottoms, maybe hats, etc. you can still be in civ clothes without drawing too much attention.
@@seantheplayer101because nobodys gonna notice 8 people wearing the same orange bucket hat and green socks
There are times you want to advertise and oversell your potential, and there are times you want to undersell and be more covert.
The trick is figuring out which time is which.
@@nisse9009 If you're stupid enough to make that your uniform, you're obviously going to attract notice. The point is that you can use a common outfit appropriate for where you are, and just have certain parts that stand out if you're looking for them.
@@seantheplayer101 Wadiyatalkinabeet
Everyone needs *ALL* the kit and training.
Combat, Teamwork, Medical, Intelligence, Communication, Logistics, Survival.
*ALL* of it.
The gear is just the quickest and easiest to entry. 🦅
For 99% of civilians, a good concealable handgun, a pair of decent binos, and a good comms plan is a 90% solution to most problematic situations.
Of course, I'm speaking in generalities.
And a crap load of water and medical.
Depending on what is going on.
Most of these channels won't tell you that because they're too busy trying to sell you stuff you don't need.
Yeah, civilians aren’t supposed to fight or have offensive capabilities
Underrated comment. A glock 19, night vision capability, solid medical, and comms, and a perimeter denial rifle will cover most situations. The goal is to survive and evade night fight.
We’re supposed to be the bangers 0:32 Speaking of bangers this videos is a banger.
Great video guys. It’s so common to see dudes kit reflect SOF, when they don’t understand the missions set or assets available to those teams. I appreciate y’all advocating for people to prepare for what’s most likely and scale up from there
Finally, I’ve been waiting for someone to address this topic. A term I was hoping to hear was scalability. Adding or selecting gear based on your tactical situation.
Scenario: if I see you “foraging” near my isolated property, how can I tell if you’re one of the good guys. I’m going to assume you’re up to no good, particularly if you’re in full battle rattle.
Similarly, a societal collapse won’t happen overnight. If the civil authorities are being with multiple insurgent groups, and you look militaristic ( camo, military boot, tactical bags) you just became a target.
You want to draw the least amount of attention to yourself as possible. But when necessary, scale up to meet the threat.
Honest opinion is that the best way to be prepared for ANY situation is to have a smooth carrier (nothing but plates) with a multipurpose chest rig that secures over it. Have a large backpack/rucksack that can hold SERE essentials and your overt gear. Have enough survival stuff to throw into that pack to sustain for a week with slim calorie intake, like stripped MRE and water purification stuff. Have a way to hide it all too.
That way, you can move everything on foot easily, stop somewhere to drop the ruck, put on the gear you need at that time, and do what you need to do. But all of that assumes you KNOW what you are getting into. Knowledge of terrain like water sources, footpaths and roads, and where the bad people are (or would be, if you don't know) is a MUST.
Many times it has been shown that light infantry with only the essentials can fight and successfully combat a well-armed military, but they MUST rely on civilian camouflage, hiding, traps, ambushes, and other unconventional warfare tactics. Not to mention being shoved into the most uncomfortable and undesirable areas unknown to man in order to hide stay ALIVE when that military force brings its might to bear. Otherwise, they can be trapped into open combat, where they will be slaughtered at a rate of 12 to 1.
The takeaway? Food and water, aka SURVIVAL, is the first priority. You cannot win in the short term, only the long term, and you have to survive until then. Then, ammunition and arms that suit YOUR NEEDS. Not COD weapons and drones and unnecessary junk (though money spent on better, high-end gear is better than wasted) . A reliable rile, ammo, observation tools (optional, technically) and the equipment to give you the ability to detect enemy movements and hide quickly. If you plan on engaging, you will only be hitting targets of opportunity, and you may not have time to grab everything you earned before the enemy gets backup and tries to engage again. This also means you need TRUSTWORTHY people that have both loyalty to your cause and a good reason to fight. Without teamwork, as they mentioned, you wont be doing anything. Without places to stay and hide, the survival essentials, and the ability to dig in like a tick and disappear, you will die.
Good Summary
Without getting long winded. This is correct and we could be friends 😂.
Think Red Dawn... in this scenario...
Been saying this since I got into this stuff. “A sound you can not hear from a place you can not see”. Recon and marksmanship is king for milsim guerrilla operations.
Going on longer backpacking trips in the mountains is always an eye opener. Every ounce counts, as my dad says. Plus you figure out what you don't need, or what you wish you had.
full circle, I used to get hated on by this type of crowd for saying water and water procurement is the most important thing possible. i was only a paratrooper, what did I know? water and community are more important than a slick kit. if it gets to that point where you dress up like cag and wander through rural areas, you are gonna get clapped when you roll up to farmer bubbas house for water and food. self defense and logistics
Dude, I LOST it at the Snickers part!😂
Sustainment is probably the only thing you should have on your back
lol
Even though your budgets are beyond mine, I really appreciate the fact that as Christian fathers and husbands, you take budget into consideration and place priority on taking care of your families and wisely working within a budget.
Thank you! I’ve been trying to explain this to my buddies especially about getting a plate strike. If you get hit anywhere, even in the plates, assume that you’re out. If you get hit anywhere and it hits bone, you’re out of the fight.
Love the fact that your approach to this subject is from the everyday person.
Love the vids guys. Def using your kit for Milsim kit inspiration 😅
Go for it!
Spartan sells shirts, like undershirts, that hold 3a vests. I use them daily in inner city Philidelphia since nobody uses rifles here. I know if NYC rifles are a problem but at least in my city 3a is gonna cover you. That said if I get hit im probobly getting bones broken or my heart stopped since trauma pads dont fit but there wont be any penetration into organs which is the thing that gets people.
Having a bigger build is such a bonus no matter what class setup you go with and I freaking love it
You're not living off the land, you're living in the land. It might sound pedantic but that's an important distinction because being comfortable with less isn't so much about macgyvering stuff from nature but being intentional about your gear choices, understanding your wants vs needs, and being realistic about your fears and what you need to mitigate them.
“S-s-some grubbies?” Goodness. Drew, you always have a backup plan in acting.
Back panels are great because even when in an organized overtly militarized mutual assistance/self rescue situation, you need spare empty capacity to carry picked up items. You're a scavenger. You need to be able to grab recovered gear, food, water, medical, firewood, etc from friendly and hostile alike. If your buddy gets injured or lost...how are you going to recover his stuff? Throw a laundry bag or stuff sack or nylon duffel in the back panel for extra carry capacity. Even if you're just out larping you can throw an MRE and trash bags in it to pack out your brass and trash.
Great content. most people don’t realize they make themselves less mobile the more kit they put on. You are the only ones that have covered. Less is more in the civilian world.
Easy rule of thumb:
Meters+10%=Yards
Yards-10%=Meters
Gets you within a handful easily.
First of all those handle bars have no streamers
*Sigh... We will work on it.
25:35 nvg? you’re not gonna need that dude well be back in an hour.. 🤔 . Plates are going to be the biggest pain for people if you want green tip plates make sure it’s specified, a lot of lvl 3+ aren’t rated for m855/green tip. With mags combined weight can get insane. In Ukraine soft armor/soft with plates might be making a comeback due to so much h.e. Shrapnel. Whole weight vs protection wages on.
Loved this one. I feel like I started with the long range recon and survivability kit, then a battle load out, and into my low vis kit. For me low vis is the best because it’s the kit you have that matters the most. I don’t like fixed armor when you’re actually out and about it’s just so hot. I the best part of my low vis kit is a bulletproof backpack. As a dad with a baby and a pregnant wife the things I actually need the most are food, bottles, 1st aid, extra clothes, diapers, and wipes. Mine has a large pocket for the 3a panel where you can also fit a ruger 5.7 in holster with light and red dot, extra mags, a saw, a radio, a fixed blade, some emergency blankets, and panchos on a trip to gattlinburg in February. But I mix up what’s in there depending on what I’m doing.
Keep up the great work guys - your videos have the most entertaining intros, and the content feels more relevant to anything I’d ever do than the full LARP.
I’m really looking into expanding my low visibility options. The bag ideas gave me a good launch point.
If you get into a firefight, you've done something wrong. Ammo conservation should be paramount. But the most important thing is:
"Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance!" - Pat McNamara
I respectfully disagree. It could also mean your enemy did something wrong. If you get into a gun fight because someone tried to shoot up the mall you were in, that doesn’t mean you made the mistake. You can’t control everything.
Did he spit a lot?
@@Front-Toward-Enemy That is true. Context is everything.
I would just like to point out as a civilian its important to understand your role. You should NEVER have to leave your family to run into an active shopter situation. It is not your role and can get your shot by LEOs. Fog of war fellas.
Yeah right. You have fun being a coward
extra large sweat shirt and baggy pants over the legs, and regular hunting backpack with my stuff in it, I look homeless while having everything I need.
I'm stoked to see how far y'all have come since I first started following you guys🤘🏼
a conversation needs to be had for PID'ing friendly v foe
That's between you and your group. Decide what camo you standardize around (not multicam, that's what your oppressor is going to wear), radio frequencies and code words, overt/covert signals and challenge/responses, etc.
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@@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd agreed. Im meaning more so, you and your group are out in the woods and come across another group. How to ID them as friendly v foe prior to an "engagement"
@@Rookie4563 I'd imagine that would play into the camo. If you're both wearing God's plaid and the UN or whoever is using multicam and baby blue helmets; you should know they're not the invaders in this scenario- that doesn't necessarily constitute them being "friendly" though; just not an immediate threat. Also, if they're shooting at you they're not friendly.
I just sit on my couch with my 1911 and levergun. I wear a flannel, does that help me look more tactical? I call it my low speed high drag load out.
Grapeshot loaded at the top of the stairs?
We watch way too many movies and what really matters is this practical understanding. Thank you so much for this video.
I tun what's called the tactical broke dude kit:
• t-shirt or army surplus field jacket (if it's cold)
• Jeans
• Waterproof boots from good will
• Backpack I got at Academy
• A canteen for water and some cliff bars
• leather belt with a pistol holster pretty much DIY'd on to it
• Walther PK380 handgun (no attachments, two extra mags)
• Mosin-Nagant by dad bought for like $60 a long ass time ago (probably still shoots)
• A couple boxes of .380 and a bunch of loose 7.62x54 rounds
•If I'm feeling real spicy I might even throw on my ski mask!
Lol epic intro.
Backpanels are good for hydration sources (CamelBak bladders) and food, meaning you should get a backpanel if you also plan on bringing a bladder, which should be always.
You can never have enough water.
Appreciate the honest thorough review of this topic
Dont forget with a low vis kit u can get 10x12 soft armor thats fits in a plate carrier and is way more concealable. its also sufficient in most situations
Yes another post from Lucas Botkin and Brock from seal team
Not first!! 🎉🎉🎉(Where the heck am I!!!) 🇨🇦
Great video guys. Really made me rethink some of my setup. Will be making some changes based on what I saw.
Old advice from a WWII recon vet. He told me he only carried 2 or 3 mags for his thompson. I said only 3 mags? He said my job was recon, we would look at something and if it got hot that was enough ammo to dump and get outta the hot zone.
Also for low viz kits, look at how resistance groups handled there kits in WWII. 99% of what they did was being invisible and recon/intel gathering. See what they did and then modernize it. The fighters that survived would do alot of studying and research on the environment, enemy, political situation and so on. Kits had to be quick and simple to not just put on, but quickly drop and become a gray man again.
Our government doesn’t think we should have body armor. We should have body armor.
Just being a "military aged male" may be enough to put you on the radar or worse depending on the situation. Look into the three Islreali hostages that were obviously unarmed, shirtless, and waving a makeshift white flag in Gaza, due to tactics at that time, these three gentlemen were treated very unwell.
Just being not fat and soy'd out is going to put you on their radar.
Given the situation, the loadout that will allow you to go out & see/get what you need and safely return is what allows you to pass thru airport security... plus a good explanation.
Well, that's what happens when local military is trigger-happy and can commit war crimes without any consequences.
@@ax23mgh8
... and you can be detained, searched, and questioned for no other reason than "military aged male", I mean, we did it in Afghanistan, no trigger-happiness or war crime needed. When we found concealed weapons, sure they lived but, we didn't just pat them on the head and send them on their way either.
What happened to them? Idk what to google to get this information
You guys always speak that realness that why I’m glad to be following you. These guys are spitting……real facts
I have always talked about the low vis option with friends, and most of the time I get laughed at. This is a great video that distinguishes the difference.
In addition, the bando bag is a great plus up option since most people are carrying Fanny packs again.
airsoft banger best part of kit
I live in what is already considered an occupied territory. It's extremely urban, and I'm most likely the only person in a 5 mile radius with the capability and determination to do work. I highly, HIGHLY recommend if this sounds similar to you that you exclusively look at low-vis as your main priority.
You will have to procure items after hit and runs where you still need to disappear into a crowd or urban area. Anything that makes you stand out cuts your successful exfil down to one, maybe two missions. It's better to have a couple of reliable but cheap firearms, a Jansport with some mags and a water bottle, and some masks/balaclavas, and spend the most of your money on outfits, training, and ammo for continuous missions
The fact that you just called your home an occupied territory tells me that you're probably a danger to your community.
@@hypnotico7051 if you believe that. I'm just a realist, I live in Chicago, and many people in my area are very okay with restricted freedoms and illusions of safety. I run a non-profit for veterans for my county, and I engage with many lower government employees and community leaders. They seem to trust me, but I will say it's usually the vets I work with who have a similar mindset over my co-workers and peers.
@@hypnotico7051like Cali? Or new Mexico, s Texas, Washington, oregon, Florida, etc?
I love the subtle digs at each other.
Luv the "non-military" Josh using military acronyms with confidence. Way to coach him up!
Aside from that, the biggest takeoff this video for 90% of the "larpers" is being self sufficient and self sustainable. Keep It simple. Most gear & essentials other than IFAKs can be "mission specific."
Keep up the good work, bois!
Right now I just have what I wear for work: JPC with rifle rated plates, three PMAGs in the kangaroo pouch, a Flatpack with a Camelbak bladder, pouches for a spare handgun mag, handcuffs, radio, and baton.
Literally the best channel for the practical prepared citizen
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Before You do Something; Is It even Efficient?
Why do It?
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A great "low vis" chest rig you can buy lots of are FISHING VESTS! Not perfect, (or good enough for you!) but you can have one ready for everybody in your "community" that does not yet know they are in your "community" but will be needing a vest with IFAK, mags, other kit and have them stored.
The very first setup I put together was with a fishing vest. They work great and are not super expensive. I have upgraded now, but they are still a great option for sure 👍
LEO style soft armor vests designed to be warn under uniform shirts are fantastic for a low vis loadout.
Just nice to see friends working on something together, and doing a great job. Praise God and keep up the good work y'all
Always a lesson in common sense and reality whenever you two put out a video. Thank you!
lets stop planning for the worst and go out and do something about this and make it better NOW, start with MASSIVE amount of praying together, when more than one believer prays God is with them.
I would like to add to this that if you are with a buddy, make sure you have similar experience and training but also that your magazine are interchangeable with that of the buddy and that you use systems in which majority of law enforcement and military uses. So in the US, majority of weapons system are the 223 and 9 mm and so you want to use riffle that accepts 223 and a handgun in 9mm preferably AR and Glock. Also, I would add a Micro RONI in the kit so you have your side arm and can convert that side arm into a three point of contact converter.
Thanks for referencing old videos around 20 mins. I like seeing the graphics showing your information descended from where with that child/parent topic referencing.
I love this type of content from you guys, and I agree with the low vis set up. There’s definitely a place for each set up.
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love your channel guys, thanks for putting this together!
Thanks for watching!
I stumbled across your channel by accident. Love it. You guys are great for information and comedy. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Appreciate the info, and that you aren’t gear salesman. Cheers guys!
There were situations when civilians went fully overt and won at least locally (Gaza paragliding attack, Wołyń, rooftop koreans etc)
But low vis is the basen. The fundamental, the most likely to be used.
Toughts on maxxing.
- less than lethal options.
- cash
- disguise
- soft body armor or thin lvl 3 plates
- CS decontamination tissues
- gloves
The reality is, when shtf you're going to have to do everything in your power to avoid people at all costs, which I've already been practicing my whole life
Best advice I've seen in the comments.
Former regiment guy that did my GWOT adventures with 2/75 & 3/75. I threw all that left over gear out cause it just brought back bad memories of how much crap we put on and with the logistical support really didn’t need it. When I started getting back into it for personal protection I really like the slick stuff from T. rex/ ferro. I can hide it under a normal jacket with 8 mags. It is also amazing when I have it on working in a vehicle. The noticed the DevGRu guys doing this and copied them and just added some things from my experience. Big LBCs are not needed unless you’re on a team going live in some interior. Now everyone needs a helmet. I myself was on a ship for a minute for some activity and going down those Navy platters, I almost took my own scalp off . I thought I cleared that hatch. You never know when your head wants to just bump into things..
Great Vid and had to comment on this one. So I have some form of all 3 of these kits. I live in a cabin with alot of acreage in the smoky mountains full time so my versions are different. My "assault" kit is actually setup as a defensive kit meant to defend my home and property from any type of threat all catered towards my environment around my home and protecting my family. I do have a sustainment kit but it only comes with me when traveling far distances from my home like a Florida vacation otherwise my home is my sustainment. Now my low vis setup comes with me everywhere and is set up for get home under the radar. On top of my EDC I have my viktos bag in my truck that carries my minimalistic plate carrier, an SMC Bravo as my PDW, Medical, and basic essentials for up to a 3 day trek home. Basically The Low Vis setup is always with me and I train most with this setup because of use case probabilities.
Always great info from you guys. Love it!
Thanks so much!
Enjoy watching y’all’s videos
First time here, and you guys have me rolling 😂 love this all! Thank yall so much for everything you do.
Love the vids keep up the good work!
35:55 I don't have any military training nor do I have the time to shoot multiple times a month - I have a wife and a constrained budget. I don't have a need for a DA loadout, so thank you for showing different kit for different applications. I've got a few basic firearms with lights/optics/slings, a few thousand rounds of relevant ammo, working on a few months of food and water stores, I concealed carry every day, I have some medical and navigation equipment, and I try to get some live-fire at the range every couple months. Looking forward to taking classes and upping my capabilities as time goes on, but at a reasonable pace. Everyone starts somewhere!
You guys are hilarious and very educational. This is my first time by your channel I will be back. Thank You so much.
Awesome! Thank you!