Last days at Stalingrad and First interrogation of Field Marshal Paulus
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- The pictures of the first interrogation of Field Marshal Paulus are famous. But few people actually know the details of the discussions. Roman Karmen was the only cameraman allowed to attend the most important meeting, between Marshal Paulus and General Rokossovsky, at the Soviet Don Front HQ on February 1st, 1943. This video is based on his account, never translated into English so far.
Absolutely phenomenal!!!Damn!!! I feel privileged to be able to see this.....a historic documentary about a historic event.......if not THE.....then certainly one of the most important events of the 20th century.....personally though.....I consider it to be THE most important.Have to say I kept thinking to myself it seemed rather callous or inhumane of Paulus not to offer at least to try to get the northern pocket to surrender and instead get stuck in some misguided sense of protocol or duty.Perhaps he did later.....I don't know .....for some reason I never paid much attention to the Battle of Stalingrad until I discovered your channel.....probably because we get taught the basic outcome.But man...now I want to explore it in depth so much more along with your excellent work you've done here before I found the channel.Can't thank you enough.Awesome work!!!
The best reward for our work is comments like this.
Thank you so much it's really appreciated.
And you're right about it all: Stalingrad is probably THE event of the XX century.
Fantastic video! My father served in the US Navy, his brother(unknown at the time as my father was adopted) served in the Wermacht, my grandmother’s brother served in the Red Army as an artilleryman. I wonder how many other families from the Eastern Europe that changed hands during the seemingly endless invasions over the centuries had similar histories?
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Yes excellent comments from you and I think you have a viewpoint that really adds to the whole story . We are shown these precious jewels, insights every so often and this is one of them. Just when I think I know everything about WW2 something comes along like this and adds a whole new perspective to that event .
Yes ! Yes ! Absolutely terrible and I would add THE most terrible event in Western Civilization . I HATE HATE War ...but I love studying it . Some times I question the validity of my morbid curiosity but perhaps with the unfolding knowledge we are finding we can perhaps at some important time talk people out of going to War .
Patton said something very profound when he said “Next to War All Human endeavors pale in comparison !” Sadly he was right all of our scientific, medical, technical and other breakthroughs come from war , hopefully we don’t need war anymore to do that .
Paulus like most of his. fellow Generals who fought in the First WW seeing all of the treasure ,blood and suffering were filled with angst that it was all for nothing because the politicians had “Stabbed Germany in the Back !” They took a vow that that would never happen again, they would never surrender too early they would fight to the last man the last bullet to behave or even think in any other way was treason and I think that this was behind his refusal to ask or order the rest of his army to surrender. I believe that the brutality of the First WW set. The stage for the brutality in the second , the Armies were full of damaged and psychopathic people.
No more Brothers War ....ever
Should have attacked the pocket towards Manstein. He owed that to his men
It's difficult to comprehend that even now in the year 2020, there are still men from both sides that survived Stalingrad, and know what hell on earth actually is.
Not many living anymore, you would have to be at least about 95. I wonder just how many are left that actually fought in the battle. Kind of like Pearl harbor survivors.
@@johnstudd4245 there are two Pearl Harbor Survivors left.My dad passed in 2016.He was on the Battleship California.
Comparing Stalingrad to Pearl Harbor is like comparing 9/11 to Steve Scalise shooting.
I was stationed in F.R.G. in the early seventies and our post barber was a Stalingrad survivor.
@@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available The dead of Peral Harbor are just as dead as the dead of Stalingrad..just fewer.
What a wonderful documentary you have produced and shared with us, short but wonderful. *THANK YOU VERY MUCH.*
Thank you sir.
@@Armageddon4145 Sorry for asking an unrelated question.
Etes-vous Francais, Bélge, Suisse ou Quebecois ? Ou bien un Russe polyglotte ? vous n'êtes pas obligés de répondre. Merci
@@brahim119 Franco-Russe
@@Armageddon4145 Enchanté et merci.
We visited Volgograd (Stalingrad) in September 2014. Utterly fascinating to see the museum and Von Paulus' headquarters at the GUM department store. The grain silo is still there as is the flour mill.
Wow,I know it's crazy to ask but is the roundabout with the statue of children playing still there?I have seen Russian videos of it,always amazed me to think that the enemy HQ is half a city block away just out of sight of the times crazy,cameramen in WW2.....equivalent to carrying a weopan with the weight,it amazes me how they knew capturing the moment was important first for morale,second for the history of mankind truly
No *von, just Paulus.
Wow! That is a great documentary. I just realized looking at these comments that you just posted it. Thank you for taking the time to create this video.
And time it took indeed. But the comments of you all reward for it. Thanks very much for the positive words!
What this channel offers is unique and special! The historical insight is amazing...
Congratulations to all the people involved in the making of this documentary!
You truly are making history!
Thanks for the positive words!
Anton - You never disappoint! Thank you so much for doing this - you are bringing out details of this battle that even I did not know after 15 years plus of reading what I thought was all the history. This is your calling Anton - forge ahead!
Thank you sir, for your support and your interest! Will continue to do my best for people like you.
Yes indeed ,he does great job .....I love his channel ,although i am a new subscriber ,i shall watch every new video ,he will post !!
"What can you Say? He was a Real Soldier." Even the Russian General had so much mutual respect for the Field Marshal they captured. I am at a loss for words regarding the generation that fought WWII. In all fronts, in all battles and in all tragic circumstances they found themselves in. Truely a magnificent part of history you shared. Thank you, thank you and thank you.
Thank you so much for your feedback, sir! Indeed these were dramatic times.
No fieldmarshal surrenders yea great soldier my ass
@Voracious Reader An estimated Twenty Six Million Russians died as a result of WWII. The respect the Russian Generals showed to the field Marshall depicted in this video transcended the carnage on both sides. If you read my comment, you see what they meant by their words. No one is "glorifying" nor "flowery talking" war. But when witnessing the conversation between the two foes in midst of hell and what the admiration truely meant, it does cause one to pause. I am sorry about your father and circumstances that transpired.
@Voracious Reader Just “terrible cold and terrible hunger”? Are you serious? The Battle of Stalingrad was the bloodiest and most torturous in WE2. The civilians that were left didn’t just freeze and go hungry. They either experienced, if the Germans let them live, or witnessed the most cruel and inhumane acts. It was a war of attrition and civilians were fair game, unfortunately. No doubt your Dad witnessed the same horrible cruelty in the Pacific Theater by the Japanese Axis soldiers. Btw, as if 2020, they are still finding bodies out on the Steppe surrounding and in Stalingrad/ Volgograd? Mass graves. Soldiers and civilians. Because for Russia, The Great Patriotic War isn’t over until the last soldier comes home.
No one is glorifying carnage. Sometimes you have to rise above the ugly.
@@joannsissy4768 Would you shoot yourself if you got captured because of following militarily dumb order? He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day. He was forbidden to do what every half-capable military commander would do in hopeless situation - retreat. Was effectively given order to sacrifice himself for PR purpose. Would you?
How ever you've done this, it's amazing! Thanks for the effort you've put in.
Roman Karman witnessed and documented an amazing amount of modern history. Thanks so much Stalingrad Battle Data.
Agreed. Just a small spelling correction- Roman Karmen.
The Radio Moscow signature tune at the end gave me gooseflesh. Thank you.
Thank you for your work. Really appreciate the translation in to English. thank you for sharing. big fan.
I’ve been plowing through CZcams in search of interesting WWll documentaries for years. Why did this channel only pop up in my recommendations today? YT works in mysterious ways.
Thanks :)
Many, many thanks for this video - and your channel! I just came across it and always appreciate any/all info and perspectives of the Battle of Stalingrad.
Your're welcome!
THANKS BROTHER. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. Stalingrad battle data and tikhistory are the best sites on CZcams. OUTSTANDING job
Thank you my friend!
Excellent account. Thank you for this!
Excellent work of the highest quality. Thank you very much.
You’re doing an exceptional job. Narration, images, full on sensitivity!
Thanks a lot!
Thank you for making these videos. Very interesting information
First time I've come across your channel and am blown away by this amazing documentary, great work
Thank you for this amazing video!
To not offer to his own troops the right to life, which he chose by surrendering instead of falling on his sword and dying with them to me speaks legions of even in war the privileges of high command are kept alive by both sides. Even in captivity, they enjoyed a quality of life and freedom from work and for many, an early release whilst their soldiers who fought for them died in unmentionable misery and hardship.
Its sicking to say the least !!!!!!!!
@@bustersmith5569 Its not sickening. That's how it works.
Paulus isn't a real man.. He didn't breakout and let his people starve..... Filthy son of a b
@Matt M To be fair, Paulus came to deeply regret what he had done and been a part of, and longed to see Stalingrad rebuilt. Not exactly justice, but definitely not a karma houdini.
Would he have saved any lives of his men by not surrendering?, did he not surrender his men when he surrendered?
Thank you for this important documentary.
Unbelievable. Why have I missed this all these years? Great job.
Absolutely fabulous indeed!! Much thx for this historic piece
Love your work, thank you!
Watched this again on the anniversary of this event.
Lost in all of this is the sheer dedication of Mr. R.L. Karmen. I could not imagine myself starving, sleep deprived, exhausted yet still be able to jot down words said at this once-in-a-lifetime event
Incredible THANK YOU for posting this historical footage. It completes a picture for me having often wondered what was said between the parties involved.
Thanks for your interest.
This was amazing, thank you !
Thanks so much for this masterpiece Anton..you and Tik are the best...
Thank you sir.
FANTASTIC HISTORY!!--God I love the internet--still learning new things about WWII though its been over for 75 years!! I love it when stuff like this surfaces
Wonderfully done. Thank you.
Beautifully narrated. Thanks for sharing material I’ve never seen.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can’t get enough of these series! Probably the most epic battle of the century
There are plenty of "battles of the century" to choose from. From Stalingrad to Shanghai to Manila, etc., there is no end to human slaughter.
Wonderful work my French friend, truly riveting viewing, wish someone had informed me of your Channel previously, thank you and best wishes.
Thank you my friend
i just learn that Anton is French, i love France ,in my school years i studied French and English .....Anyway thank you for this information!
Many thanks.
Great work. Thank you much much!
Excellent. Well done SBD. I congratulate you for the time time and effort in presenting these fine historical videos for those of us who care.
Thanks!
What a great video. Thank you so much for this great insight into the characters of the battle. So much is said about the eastern front and often of very low quality.
Thank you sir.
This is an amazing story expertly crafted. Rare first person documented history translated into English. Thanx for that SBD.
Thank you sir
Absolutely fantastic piece of work!
Excellent work! Film, data, biography, & unique perspective all in one! Bravo!
Thanks, really appreciated
Excellent presentation of what was without doubt a pivotal moment in time that unquestionably influenced the outcome of WWII..
The sacrifice of the Starlingrad population & the Russian People on a whole is unimaginable in our modernity of excesses.
As an avid follower of history, oftentimes in past it has been rare to source let alone find genuine "unvanished" articles/videos that convey the unwritten/unspoken actuality..
Thank you for your diligence & effort, such virtues are a requirement when addressing such important historical events
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Thanks a lot Pita!
Thankyou for sharing this work
Great documentary with first hand account and unadulterated. Great work folks...Bravo!
Esta serie de videos sobrepasa todo lo antes visto. De lo que nos estuvimos perdiendo. Felicitacion a los creadores de este Canal.
You do amazing work thank you
Absolutely priceless. Riveting viewing. Thank you for sharing this major historical event.
Thank you sir!
Thanks for the great info - a tragic but fascinating conflict.
Very tragic for germans but a glorious victory for Russia
Soviet Union please)
thanks so much for posting this historical video footage.we feel as if we were actually in that room when field marshal paulus surrendered.it feels quite sad and strange how the foot soldiers are busy blasting and killing each other on the generals orders. yet when the top brass meet,they are very courteous,friendly and polite to each other!!
Thank you sir, for your positive words. The aim was indeed to get into the intimacy of that room. Glad you enjoyed it. And true these generals were hypocrites. Their detachment from the realities for which they are responsible is astonishing.
I suspect the German foot soldiers knew what their fate would be at the hands of the Soviets as pow's,that could be why some chose to keep on fighting to the death,rather than surrender.
@@hubertwalters4300 After they murdered over 3 million POWs themselves, they knew they would receive no quarter.
An absolutely fantastic video. The pairing of Karmen's words, film and photos gives viewers a perspective that is unmatched on CZcams. And I say that as a big fan of TIK's work.
Many thanks Pete, really appreciated.
Riveting, revealing and moving.
Great document. Thank you.
Thanks, really appreciated.
I think Shumilov and Rokossovsky missed on an opportunity to convince Paulus of applealing to his troops to surrender. They could've countered the "I'm in captivity, so I can't give orders" agrument with "Yeah, let's make it not an order but merely a call for surrender, shall we? Not from you as commander but as a private person, that can't be against any rules, can it?" Wonder if it could've worked out for him.
Right. Should have tried something like this indeed.
Excellent presentation - thanks 😎
What an amazing video, as someone interested in this I am very grateful for it to be shown here on utube. I never thought I would be fortunate to see and hear such information of what actually happened in those final days at Stalingrad.
Thanks for your interest.
Thank you for the great video. My father had the medal "For The Liberation of Stalingrad" (За Освобождение Сталинграда) among many others, including "За Взятие Берлина" (For The Taking Berlin). Unfortunately, he didn't talk much of war. RIP.
Thanks for your feedback and positive words!
I would say to your father thank you and well done. Very well done. I can assure you that there are millions of us in the west that appreciated the sacrifices of the Russian people during the war. The axis powers where in the wrong in every way.
Very impressive story! Thank you for putting it together!
Great work sir, you have truly earned a subscription and a thumbs up! 🤩👍
Incredible stuff. Thank you
Roman Karmen's words and descriptions were incredible. The bleak poetry and humanity put the events at the end of the Battle of Stalingrad in proper perspective. Bravo for showing this, Thank you.
Thanks for the positive words.
To World War Two buffs this is like a 7 course meal at a 7 star hotel.
Wow, thanks! Really appreciated.
This is one of the great surrenders of WW2 to go along with Gen Wainwright at Baatan, Gen. Percival and the fall of Singapore!
Seriously, this is legendary I'm so stoked to find this
It's such a massive moment in history and I'm so glad this is here for posterity
(Kind of sad that rokossovsky got purged not too long after this haha)
My favorite thing before I heard all this was after hitler gave him the promotion to basically condemn him to suicide paulus said I won't shoot myself for that bohemian corporal hahaha
The way they left this army group to die was kind of the writing on the wall for all the orders leading up to the fall of berlin.. it's bizarre since hitler believes the Germans are this "master race" he's so willing to let millions die needlessly
I mean even in 42 there was zero chance germany could win, their manpower was fucked, their supply lines were a joke and barely mechanized, they had way too many tank designs with a shit ton of flaws and requiring a lot of maintenance, other than the big dick guns and armor on them the worst design for this attritional war, especially compared to the mass produced t34s and sherman's, with nearly just as good armor potential, very survivable for the crew and easily repaired and maintained in massive numbers
All the supply guys knew they were boned
And yet hitler let so many guys run headlong into the meat grinder
The Soviets lost more than anyone, but at least they knew they would win by this point. It just sucks the brutal oppression they dealt out and imposed were basically the same as the germans
Original sources are the best. Thank you for this.
this is absolutely fantastic. major respect on your work, so informing and entertaining. real hero stories.
Thanks a lot!
Yes!!! I have been waiting for this thanks very good well done love this series.ps can you do a lead up to Stalingrad, case blue from start to finish that would be great thanks for the wonderful work it shows, very well done.
Thank you sir. And yes, the series you speak about is already ongoing, its first episode "Stalingrad: The Beginning" was released two months ago.
You are by far the most underwatched historical CZcams channel and You deserve to be up in the millions reproductions
Thank you very much, it's appreciated, supportive comments like these will make this channel grow to the size it deserves!
I love history and when i finde this Type of channels males my day. Saludos from mx and Jeep Up the good work.
Fascinating. It's vids like this that make YT great. I just finished Antony Beevor's book Stalingrad so this was very interesting to me. Thank you.
Absolutely magnificent. I felt I was in the room with von Paulus and Rokossovski and the others. Congratulations.
Thanks for your feedback and the positive words! Appreciated.
"They are spectators now, no longer targets" - very poignant .
Fantastic account. Answers many unanswered questions
Glad you think so!
Great video, and from a very interesting perspective.
What a horrible drama ... but this video is a great source. Thanks a lot for this brillant work. 👌
Great video.
Just fantastic. To see and hear about these important events from first hand sources. The background music is very nice.. To know about Karmen.
Thank you for sharing this historical moment.
Seems the only Immediate civilized interaction was briefly between the officers of both sides …..What an uncivilized blood bath WW2 was …..
because they re not fighting at that moment
Great video very informative
was rewatching your old videos while waiting for a new one :)
Hopefully you'll enjoy this one :)
@@Armageddon4145 oh i did enjoyed it, i can never get enough of Stalingrad battle information, and thank you for translating the stuff that wasnt!
Brilliant beyond words thank you this hopefully will be shown in many years to come
Thanks a lot, sir!
"Where are my suitcases", the general shouted. His men dying in front of him...
Most excellent as usual.
Thank you Ken.
Thank you for this truly fascinating video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good indeed . Thank you for your work.
love your channel Anton
Thank you Paul
I have always wanted to know what was said in that meeting. Thank you very much
I wanted to see Voronov. The quiet Giant always shy of fame.
This is an awesome production. Details presented in this video are generally not known to the public or at least to the American and probably the British public.
This is great stuff man
This is my second time coming around to this series. I think it's just amazing. There's this strange depth to paulus that you start to feel as you watch his capitulation. He may not have been a murderer himself but he listened to them and surrounded himself with them and he had to figure out how to find honor while understanding his disgrace
Thanks for your interest!
For more on Paulus in captivity, watch the Suzdal Camp series
@@Armageddon4145 I've watched it twice. It's amazing that you were able to bring out the pressures on Paulus and the changing view he had of Germany's role. Very well done
@@bookaufman9643 what are you trying to say with your comment above " He may not have been a murderer himself but he listened to them and surrounded himself with them"....?
@@siggifreud812 I guess I was trying to say that Paula's had a quiet dignity but the team he was playing on was evil and if you choose to play on that team then you were tainted by them.
@@bookaufman9643 I see what you are saying. I guess many of the Wehrmacht Generals could have gotten together and attempted some kind of putsch before Barbarossa, but prior to Stalingrad, even the respected Generals were basking in the light as great conquerors. Once it became apparent that there was no chance of winning in Russia, it was too late for them to save face - they were in too deep. Also, many of them turned a blind eye to what the Einsatzgruppen were doing in their wake. Fact is: Paulus would be more respected today if he had died in battle with his troops.
As a history nut I absolutely salute you. There is no such thing as enough historical information well done. Will donate
Thanks a lot for your interest and support.
Incredible, thank you!
Excellent !!!!! lots of footage I have never seen
I live 20 km across the Volga river from Volgograd (the current name for Stalingrad). The Motherland Calls statue can be seen from my apartment's window. I will revere the great feat of my soviet ancestors for the rest of my life.
You should. It was a great sacrifice. It is impossible to not pay homage to the millions who died. I have spent my entire life in New York City and feel as you do.
Another great Document given to us by Mr. Joly - THANK YOU
And thank you too sir!
Exceptional! Thank You!
Great video!!... fantastic research... thx
The Russian general asked Paulus if he had any request and Paulus did not ask that his men be treated humanely. Deplorable.
He blamed his men for his predicament. He was brought to the interrogation in a grand automobile. It was several miles from the department store where he was taken custody. He passed thousands of his surrendered troops shuffling to captivity along the road. They all jeered him. Never understood was why the Red Army indulged him. These pictures are not what he looked like when was apprehended. He hadn't shaven, he was dirty and his uniform was soiled. Not sure why they made him look so pristine.
@@sl5932 They were hoping to persuade Hitlers generals to turn against him, to not fight to the last like they did
I mean at the end of the day I HIGHLY doubt that it would have made much of a difference... The Soviet Union never signed the Geneva Convention...but yeah if true that says a lot about the type of soldier and man that Paulus was...
Haha wtf do u know about what was said ya fuckin donut ... u werent even born u werent there and u havent done enuff research at high level so fuk away off beta bitch
@@sl5932 i can imagine the censors cleaning up dirty history
I am a writer myself, so I know good writing when I see it, or hear it in this case -- excellent writing.
Thank you sir!
I am not writer myself and I find it quite tacky.
@@RogerThat787 yeah there is a great word for Stalingrad. "tacky".
I guess you have been though much more than the men who were in that.
Agree. Some beautiful writing from the photographer and others involved.
Yes indeed. The writing is surprisingly very very good.
THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!! Good Job🙌👍
Remarkable video. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was it OK all way long, or were there some boring moments?
I have read countless books and seen so many videos of the battles at the Eastern Front and especially at Stalingrad. These historic photos and films shot by Roman Karmen and even him sitting in a corner of the room when Paulus is being interrogated by Voronov and Rokossovsky is amazing ! Truly historic and monumental event. Paulus didn't have the human decency to get his hopeless troops to surrender at the northern pocket but prefer instead to hide behind duty protocol. He also had the gall to ask about his two rotten suitcases even when his massive troop columns were all surrendering !
Thank you for your interest!
A first class report. Great work and much appreciated. This also shows a humanity not popularly associated with the Soviet high command. I don't know how long this civility lasted. Not many of the German soldiers made it back to Germany after the war. Thnaks
5k of 90k Germans prisoners survived that's Soviet humanity you've taken the bait hook line and sinker
Katyn was Soviet humanity at its best
@@JohnSmith-qv6hp There was nothing humane in the Soviet system. It was a machine of repression. However individual acts of humanity expressing the basic good nature of most people would have been evident from time to time.
@@JohnSmith-qv6hp No argument there.