Aspect Ratio is VERY important: 3:2, 4:3, 16:9,
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No music, no intro, no usual CZcams setup, yet it's very thorough to the point. Thank you for the clean and clear content
those scissor skills though
I noticed that too. Straight lines from behind both horizontal and vertical, looking into a monitor while talking.
Why are you cutting my stuff? Rude.
hahah
Mark Stronge of course not 😉
It's my photo. She's joking.
Don’t listen to Tony this is not a joke. That photo has been in my family for 1000s of years and he cut it without asking.
0 chill
Why am I so stressed about aspect ratios now? I don't even own a camera.
I just laughed then questioned reality.
LOL
3:43 ...oh i hate that - I know how you feel. Ok so it became a grand vision that turned into a postage stamp design? (sigh...) ...hmmm...
LOL
Lmbo....u made me laugh. OMG I needed that laugh becuase this video just gave me a headache! Geeeeeeeeeeeeeesh......
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Perhaps the best solution right now is to shoot with a high resolution camera with sharp glass and DONT fill the frame. Leave a lot of negative space around the subject and you can crop however you’d like.
That's just what I do most of the time....
Dustin Dilworth Tony didn’t cover going to print on canvas. You lose soooo much real estate wrapping around the frame!
Our guy wanted some shots for the photo club newsletter. I was flattered he picked my shot of the cougar at the zoo. I took 25 shots before I got the cat with his front paw raised while pacing his space(I got lucky no glass or fence). The newsletter comes out and he lopped off the bottom of the pic where the cats paw was. I guess I should have mentioned how I wanted it printed. I figured he'd get it.
As always, the best info is in the comments. Tony's getting wound about nothing, especially the vertical phone aspect ratio silliness (auto rotate is a thing, Tony). Modern sensors have an abundance of resolution, and it's trivially easy to keep your composition centered and protected for a variety of aspect ratios while still keeping a sharp and detailed image after you crop down. (also, Micro Four-Thirds is 4:3, Tony, not 4:5, it's right there in the name!)
In my opinion the best solution. We don't have time and patients to shoot in multiple aspect ratios most of the time.
Seeing this in 2021 .... He predicted future of photography
I hate Hate HATE vertical format video. There are good reasons for shooting some stills in vertical format but NEVER a good reason for shooting video like that. Why are some (many) people so pin-headed that they can't turn their phones 90 degrees and shoot properly? Portrait video on landscape screens just looks awful and even if you just view it on a phone and don't rotate it to landscape, our eyes are built to see things in landscape mode and it just doesn't look right.
Western Australia Now and Then one word: Snapchat
Except if you're going to share it on Snapchat or Instagram, imo
Follow what the consumer want.
I've finally got my friends sharing my mantra: "Friends don't let friends vertical video"
@@jordanfranck .. Snapchat is ruining video and Instagram is ruining photos. Simple minds fail to understand the future consequences...
6:21 Tony casually tossing away that magazine, like my ex with my happiness.
😂
This is a great video and brings up some important points that really aren't discussed enough. When I first got into photography I just shot everything in horizontal and cropped to 16:9 because it looked the best on computer screens, but as I started to get more popular on instagram I made the conscious choice to shoot more in vertical and square. Last year I got so caught up in shooting vertical 4:5 images that I prioritized it over horizontal wide crops. When it came time to putting together a calendar I was panicking because I needed to fill the page with horizontal images. I ended up doing some pretty cringe worthy horizontal 8.5:11 crops of the vertical images with a crap ton on content aware filling to expand the frame. As much as I'd like to say that I've learned, I still end up having to do this every couple months to fill the needs of a certain format. But I try to shoot wider and in multiple different orientations to meet as many formats as possible.
Absolutely excellent! One of the best tutorials of any subject on any media ever. I can't possibly imagine anyone not understanding Tony's super clear, super fun explanation of aspect ratio. I am impressed with the perfect amount of dramatization, just enough to illustrate the concepts of aspect ratio - cutting the printed picture was ingenious. Thank you, Tony!
No one seems to talk about aspect ratio, so I appreciate this video. Any photographer who starts printing their work runs into this issue immediately! I've learned to shoot wide so I have ample cropping flexibility for client photo sizes, and I crop everything myself to the clients print size desire inside Lightroom. I don't leave it up to the lab! This is just another piece of the puzzle to becoming a well rounded photographer.
Got to agree with your thoughts here Tony. It's funny I'm still pretty amateur but in the last year or so after switching to Micro Four Thirds it's amazing how much the cropping affects pictures. I had this issue last night after doing a mini Christmas shoot at home with my toddler. We hung six 8x10 frames on the wall and then tried to pick out the best 6 pictures but found out that we only had 3 keeper horizontal. And even then to get them printed I had to crop them in Lightroom to fit the aspect ratio which worked out OK for some but for one it cut off a hand and is unusable. I wish I knew this before starting the shoot that I wanted to have six horizontal 8x10 when all was said and done.
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thank you so much for making these videos that talk about things you don't usually see in other videos. you're still literally the only channel i've ever seen discuss that crop factor has an effect on aperture as well as focal length! thanks again.
Who the hell holds their phone vertically to look at a horizontal photo? Just turn the phone 90°.
Many of us do not leave auto-rotate on, it messes with productivity apps like spreadsheets which usually work better vertically. If you are a content creator rather than content consumer, you quickly realize the difference. I probably get more productivity from a smartphone than most people can get from a desktop. On a desktop I can compete with NASA...I am a data analyst by the way.
@@craigknapp6318 That's a helluva excuse lol.
Thank you so much !! ❤️❤️❤️
Especially important for good stock photography, you have banners, buttons of a myriad of sizes and once you found a good image to carry your message, you fiddle with fills, crops etc. like mad. Hence best to shoot a series of different formats and angles that have different formats in mind. At least in ad space that gets your stuff sold better, assuming that the basic quality is alrihht as well.
High mp cameras give us the opportunity to leave a little more space around our subjects for cropping. Usually it's worth leaving some room to crop later.
Best advice Tony! Shoot in all types of aspect ratios for the ever changing way we share our photos!!
This issue has been on my mind a lot more lately. Thanks for the discussion!
Very enlightening. Thanks Tony. Personally, I'm going back to cave painting format: one wall wide by one wall high. It lets you get (wait for it), Mammoth sized prints.
You predicted the future. We now use vertical photos and videos for instagram and other apps.
Funny you posted this video. I just did a family photo shoot and it turned out good. The problem was I didn’t plan for 8 x 10 and they can’t use the shots to hang on their wall. I’ll have to re-shoot again in spring so this was a good learning experience. Definitely not a boring video or topic because this is important information for new photographers like myself.
dragonfist25 why do they want an 8x10?
Just print and frame them whatever aspect ratio the photo is.
I just delivered a 12”x22” canvas of a wedding group shot because that is the shape of the image. We have our own printers and custom framing places, so I’m not sure what the big deal is about printing standard formats
Christopher O'Grady I think they already had the frames and just wanted to print them. I'll pass along your suggestion.
Uppercut Athletics oh, I never have clients print my photos, they have to buy the prints/frames from me
Christopher O'Grady Makes sense. This is dragonfist25 by the way. I forgot to switch accounts.
Same issue with me but I just printed the image out as a 8x13
HOW TO TAKE 16.9 IMAGE? ON 200D CAMERA...Please show me a video about it
Thank you Dr. Northrup for circumcising the hell out of that picture! You've shown graphically what's been driving me nuts all these years...like getting prints in 8x12 only to realize finding a frame in that size is next to impossible...then being forced to crop to 8x10 for framing and realizing you have to sacrifice important detail on the left or right of the image!
Love this, Tony. Can't believe you made this in 2017! More relevant than ever. Thank you.
Great video. Changing aspect ratios during dialogue made all the difference.
35mm (3:2) has been popular for well over a hundred years, and was still the most popular film size when digital full-frame and ASP-C (also both 3:2) took over. Yet try and buy a 3:2 photograph frame larger than 6"x4" and you just can't, unless you have them custom made. This has absolutely frustrated me for years, and I just don't understand why frame manufacturers don't make frames in the world's most popular aspect ratio, and it just doesn't make sense that they don't, so I'm really pleased to find I'm not frustrated on my own!
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This aged well. Good job Tony.
I had a similar problem just this holiday season. Wanted to buy a frame with space for one 4×6 and two 1×1 and give away as present this christmas pictures of my children. Never printed with a frame in mind before and I had to give up... I definetly will have this kind of thing in mind for the future. Not just snapping photos but actually think about the final product as I'm shooting.
always bringing up valuable points and dropping knowledge
Thank you!!! I never knew how important it was to shoot in a square aspect ratio for Instagram. I always posted the whole photo!
There's an old example of the aspect ratio issue -- movies and television. Movies started out at 1.37:1 (35 mm with "4-perf pulldown"). Along came television at 4:3, and the studios freaked that people would stop going to theaters. So Super-35, Widescreen, and CinemaScope became far more popular (they'd been introduced long before, but costs and other things hindered use. 70mm was in use in the 1890s!).
With television, something interesting happened with filmmakers. Many started shooting for display on television, meaning you'll see that all the action and visual interest is contained in a 4:3 section of the widescreen original. Better directors and cinematographers used the whole frame, and that led to broadcasters making interesting (sometimes bizarre) framing choices when they cropped the film to show it on television. (That, in turn, was the principal argument for letterboxing in that transitional time when more people were getting widescreen televisions while significant numbers still had older, standard definition TVs.)
Doesn't the D850 provide the photographer with various aspect ratios?
Movies started at 1:33:1. The 1.37:1 (which is basically identical) is the academy ratio established in the early 30s. It was made to compensate for the fact that the sound track has made the image narrower.
This is definitely an important aspect (ha ha) of photography today that very few people ever talk about. I've been shooting with crops in mind for a long time now and it's helped a ton in so many situations. Really good video Tony.
Very important indeed. Thanks for bringing it to the forefront! Cheers.
Thank you so much for this talk, I am just getting started dealing with clients and I know this information will help me quite a bit. I really like the idea of tape over the camera screen, what a great idea.
Well constructed video!
Thanks for this info - I've been so frustrated getting photos ready for shows because I was losing part of the photos - now I know to leave a lot of dead space in anticipation of cropping for a 8x10 print.
I just shoot natively and get the best shot I can. If it's a weird crop for a format then I either don't share it on that format or share it and say to hell with it. I don't have a boss telling me how to shoot and if I did I think it would take all of the passion right out of me.
I completely agree! It's my vision of the scene/final photo, not someone else. I actually print my photos and hang them in my home so I think what I want the final print to look like before I take the shot.
For a client, I find what they want before I shoot. Even in that, if my view is to live on it will live on as I viewed the scene.
Thank you for talking about this! I've always believed many current aspect ratios remain written in stone simply because "that's the way it's always been". Personally, I love the 16:9 ratio; however, you should see the eye-rolls I get at my local photo lab when I try to get one printed (much less, mounted). You would think I was asking them to violate some sacred oath. Again, thanks!
Great video, very informative. Thank you.
Good video, and an important thing to keep in mind. Anyone who has shot for publication in mags, books or newspapers has had to think about this for many, many years. I recently sold a print, and the customer saw the image in 16:9, but wanted a 16x24 print. Fortunately with a little Photoshop content aware fill I was able to get what he wanted. :)
Every advise Tony gives translates into more storage space. More photos for aspect ratios, more photos for better luck, etc etc.
That’s kind of the vibe I’m getting to.
I have your books and I will get the new one when I can afford it but wanted to tell you thank you both for all your hard work on giving us this information
Great video, and an Interesting (certainly not boring!) subject, definitely something that should be mentioned more often.
Hey Tony and Chelsea , I was wondering if you had any advice/tips as Im primarily a Nikon shooter but about to pick up a Sony A seried camera. My plan was to do most of portrait/engagment with my Nikon and use Sony as my travel, video and even as a second camera. I know i lose ability to use most of my nikon lenses but with getting the sony I would get a small/lighter camera which is great for travelling. Have any tips or advice as I add another camera brand? Thanks for all your videos, you both are for sure helped me alot to get to where I am today.
Hey Tony, thanks for this most informative talk. Looking at my Sony A7III aspect ratio, the menu have but two choices 3:2 and 16:9, dose this means I will always loose pixels if I want to get a square crop or post to Instagram. Is there something I can do in camera to get square crop?
You are so good at delivering knowledge!!!!
I’m mostly shooting food photos for Instagram and I’m required to submit 1:1 should I change this in my camera before shooting or should I leave the default settings and leave a room while shooting for cropping later? Canon 5d mark iv
I never mess with aspect ratios on my camera. I do like to adjust my zoom to were it's still a sharp picture but not super close. Once I edit on the computer then on my phone, I crop them. They come out great.
Your vertical format prediction 🙌🙌
Thanks for the info, well presented and very clear!
Thank you for talking about this.
This was helpful. I usually shoot landscape orientation, but it doesnt come across that great on insta. I g been shooting more portrait orientation in the past months but it's still a challenge with landscapes. Just a good practice for me to get used to it.
Interesting video Tony. Thanks
Thanks uncle Tony!
Thanks man, you are right again! Must think foreward and shoot as many ratio as possible in the given moment. When I switched to MFT OMD I was a little upset because of the 4:3 but in a few month it become an advantage that I could think in 3:2 and 4:3 even 16:9 in the EVF
One thing worth looking at too is the framing world is built around the 4x5 ratio. With a few exceptions like 11x14 your framing prices will be skewed due to your glass being cut down from an 8x10 ratio.
Good point, i would love to see in the future circular sensor. Much better for circular lenses
Eugenio apparently sensors where too expensive to do that, at least that is what internet "experts" always reply to the round sensor suggestion.
Personally I would consider it as a good feature in a camera.
Toda la razón Agustín, además tendríamos que cambiar muchas otras cosas hasta la manera de pensar... pero bueno quizás algún Chileno se nos ocurre invertir en este nicho ;) saludos
this is something I have found my self thinking a lot about lately. I have noticed that when I shoot for the correct social media platform (instagram:square) (facebok: portrait) the photos get more attention. Now when shooting or even in post i think about the final product more and more
One thing people never seem to think of. If you are capturing video of an event that might be newsworthy, hold your phone horizontally. All TV is landscape and your video will be used in preference to tall thin ones.
Very informative, thank you!
circular sensor is actually very interesting idea! The only camera I had which was multi aspect ration and did not only crop but actually used different area of sensor was panasonic lx100.
Good video. I learned this the hard way back in high school shooting for the school annual and paper. We shot on a Yashica TLR with square negatives and a 35mm SLR. We developed our own film and printed at native aspect. When the editors layout the pages they used the hard prints and copy with layout guide. It all had to fit and they were very “creative croppers” - with a pair or scissors. Ouch. We got the gist of it but everyone must have thought the photography was crap.
1:1 is the most ideal format for future for different kind of use. Just Like traditional Hasselblad 6x6 format we can crop the image in every ratio we need. Camera lens is circular, why camera factories wouldn’t put 1:1 square sensors on digital camera that can use maximum optical area of the lens?
3:32 you literally predicted the future because instagram is trying a new aspect ratio that fills the phones screen vertically that's insane almost five years ago
I searched by recent to see if anyone else noticed this
Yes
Thanks Tony
Well thought out and explained, thank you :)
Thanks. All our problems addressed in one video 💟
thank you, Tony!
Watching this in 2024 where Tik Tok is most popular social app with vertical aspect and Apple just released VR headset, this guy was so ahead of its time it is crazy!
Always preferred 4:3 to compose even on a 3:2 camera I tend to compose so I can crop in 4:3 later since I prefer to print in that ratio.
agree a 100% ...... best Aspect Ratio ever for portraiture is 4:3 as there's no need later, to crop out the negative wastage space from the image. Classic 4:3 is evergreen. Fuji GFX & M43 Olympus/Panasonic can be a pleasure to use, just because of that solely. The no man's land of 3:2 is neither Wide enough for Cinema/Movie/Video work, nor Tall enough for portrait. For video, 2:1 (16:8) is even better than 16:9, or may be even slightly wider than that.
Sometimes as I'm taking the picture, I know it's going to be my next phone wallpaper, etc. It's great composition practice.
That's it. I'm shooting everything in a square format and then opening in Photoshop, expanding the canvas and using content aware fill or AI to fill in any banding area of nothingness. No thinking required :-)
lol
Craig Pickles the struggle
I hate that instagram force-crops my vertical 2:3, unless I apply white boarders in 3rd party apps...
I thought it forced crop to 4:5?
Why not think about why they do so? I guess the reason is that if the image would be higher than 4:5, it would be higher than the actual viewable area of the feed where you‘re scrolling, depending on the phone it is viewed on. So when scrolling through the feed, people wouldn‘t see the whole image at once. Would suck, right? It makes sense that they limit the aspect ration, in my opinion at least. Many people, like you, don‘t think far enough - so it‘s better to set limits.
I use 3rd party white borders as well. I don't want to compromise. If a scene is best presented in a certain aspect ratio just do it.
Cool stuff! Made me think! Thanks! Very creative lesson!
Thanks for doing the vid Tony, a great reminder!
For now, I just try to keep padding round the edges of photos and then crop/chop/hassle it to what the end result is (thank you 'presets'). It's kind of a no win. If camera suppliers increase/change the sensor to cater then we will just fill that too. My only solution (personal) for generic is pad the pic. For anything specific then go out and shoot for the size wanted.
I really enjoyed this video!
WHOA... this video looks FANTASTIC! Nicely done Justin! I'm afraid to ask, but what camera and settings?
Great explanation! Q: what are the size of your picture on the wall behind you? Not the frame
So much to think about!
Newer DSLR/Mirrorless need to be able to overlay an aspect ratio in the viewfinder or add it too the live view mode at least. If they don't want too go to an EVF yet (canon,nikon).
The D850 does this REALLY WELL. It can draw a box or dim the unused part of the OVF.
Em1 Mk II and other Oly models do this too........When I find I'm leaving too much dead space in the sky or foreground, I shoot 16x9.......saves film space and developer costs due to less "real estate" processing chemicals :-)
I use many different aspect-ratios. I use 3:2, 6:4, 8:12, 4:6, 12:8 and 2:3 and sometimes, when I feel like doing something cool, I use 15:10!
What, no √2:1 ?
@@davidjames4915 cause that's just not exactly right. It's really close to also being a perfect crop, but it's not quite as good as 21:14 for example
Great advice, Thanks
Hi Tony, I am not very tech savvy and when uploaded my first images to instagram they were edited images from my flickr account, therefore they remained in the aspect ratio that I had chosen. This makes my instagram look different, since I take pictures that please me, I dont mind!... should I?
Hi Tony, great thoughts on aspect ratio, but would you please set up the chess board proplerly. The queens go on their own colour. You just have to swap the king and queen round, probably the same for black.
Great video ! I'm student in photography and I wonder what ratio should I take in shootings, to print in 18x24 cm.
Will I cut my photo after the print ?
Great video. Thank you
Spot on just started using m4/3 as well as Nikon got to get the brain in gear!!
So glad I clicked this video. Someone told me one way was better then another, this makes more sense.
Also consider the requirements of gallery wrap prints, where you'll need wider perimeter for the wrap.
This was a solid video but also hilarious because you have a sort of urgency that makes you seem crazed. 11/10
HOW TO TAKE 16.9 IMAGE? ON 200D CAMERA
did you learn how to do it?
Tony, I love how you bring up about sensor shapes because I've been saying this for a while. Give us square image sensors on our smartphones so we don't have to rotate them. The difference in sensor area is tiny so it wouldn't result in a substantially more expensive sensor like it would for a larger format and it would allow for loads of smart functionality, such as... banishing vertical video from the face of the Earth.
What horrors! They must end!!
For those are horrors no man has ever seen
I often shoot in 6x7 aspect ratio (medium format film) and print in 8x10. In the darkroom I once in a while have to print a tightly composed image, and trying to make it work on 8x10 paper (even if ratio is close) can be a pain.
Another cropping issue: I've noticed that even when I have a perfectly sized image for a print, the print shops (Walgreens, Costco, Walmart, etc) will always crop even further (on each edge) by 1/16 to 1/8th of an inch. Much like the Eagle wings in your picture, that is the sometimes the difference between a subject being inside the edge and outside. Yet another reason to always leave space on the edge.
Thank you for this. Im an artist and I do grid drawings. I found out the hard way that I need to mind the aspect ratio when translating a cropped reference photo to 9x12 paper
I remember watching your video on what we would like to see on future cameras and me thinking round sensors would be the way to go. One shot, multiple aspect ratios. Whatever works best to display your image.
As well, it would be great to help for handheld shots or moving shots to easily fix the horizon with little to no lost pixels. Also it would make it a lot quicker to stabilize video. The computer wouldn't have to calculate as much or crop or zoom to correct motion. Just rotate the resulting video in response to the shake, rolling, or other motions. Which would also help reduce the weird effects caused by stabilization software.