At 5:21 I compared all of the air coolers I've reviewed, but I only provided test results in 105W ECO Mode because the standard X47 or the X53 Black was not stable at the 170W stock profile with the Ryzen 7900X, I didn't even test the L9a at stock for this reason. However The X47 Full Copper was stable and offered relatively decent performance. I'd say that the 105W eco mode is a better option If you're using and of the AXP-90 lineup.
Small but maybe important detail : at 2:11 when you attached the AM4 arms, they are on the wrong side. If you look at how the stock Intel arms are mounted at 1:51, the threaded protrusion is on the other side. Not sure if it has any impact on mounting pressure though.
Thank you for the great feedback, I have heard the call and graphs will be more direct and easily readable in upcoming videos. In order to provide as much data as possible I tried to cram as much on screen as possible. Going forward I'll provide a link to the datasheet for those interested in seeing more data. Thanks again, I'm learning and growing.
Consider making several runs and averaging the results. Some of the results didn't make sense because of outliers (105W scoring lower than 65W and 170W)
I just want to thank you for all the videos around the Formd T1. I am completely new to pc building, let alone building an ITX one. Your videos holding our hands on the installation process is just a godsend! Just wondering if the seals are easy to install if I order the ones made available by EIGA? Thanks! Also, liked and subbed!
Hi, thank you and glad I can help. I’d say ordering the Noctua fan ducts are a good investment, however you would have to get the 3D printed pegs made. It’s not necessary but it does help keep the air focused and pulled directly from outside the case.
I've recently got drawn to ITX builds and your channel is a godsend for the T1 build, more or less the same components i'd want to have in mine. Quick question, are the benchmarks based on 100% fan speed? I'm trying to compare the overall performance difference between the CM Atmos AIO and using air cooler - just based on specs, an AXP-100 full copper might be able to fit?
Hi, Thanks for your kind words. I’m pretty sure I noise normalized back when I made this video. I noise normalize now, the results in these tests could be better if you want to run them with a higher fan curve, often the speeds come out to be around 50-60%. If you can afford to liquid cool do it, you’ll have a thermal buffer to run your CPU with higher clocks. The AXP 100 will not fit in the T1 in 3 or 3.25 slot mode.
Like most, I was like 'ugh, orange fan' BUT it's got a whole different vibe that matches the copper really nicely when it's spinning. It's a solid and quiet fan, so far, and now if I were to buy a third AXP90-x47 Full Copper and it came with a different color fan, I'd probably go off looking for an orange one. Send me your orange fans, Noctua bois!
good comparisons , unfortunately the alpenfhon blackridge isn't compatible with am5. can u do a comparison with other low profile coolers on intel plateform ?
I’ve heard this, In it returns to idle temps relatively quick. Also as fast as the X47 Black, I’m not sure if the black coating makes it worse than the original aluminum version.
Great video. Somewhere at minute 5:20 you named the cooler for the gaming test x47copper Noctua, but the color is cyan, like the x47copper with thermalright fan. Is it correct? Which combo did you use for the gaming tests? Which cooler is better: ID cooling IS55 or the thermalright x47copper? I know there is a 8mm difference in height.
At this point in the video the Legend changes to compare other coolers like the X47 black and L9a. I do apologize for the graphs being difficult to read, a criticism I’ve received and plan to fix in the next video.
@@LogimonYT Optimum Tech made a great video on how you can undervolt your Ryzen 7000 CPU. In a section of this video he shows you how to access the PBO settings in your motherboard (It could vary depending on your specific motherboard). If you want to program eco mode in your bios you’ll need to adjust the PPT, TDC and EDC settings manually. Some boards have presets, however it’s best to input the numbers yourself. For 65W; for example you input PPT 88000, TDC 75000 and EDC 150000. For 105W; PPT 142000 TDC 110000 and EDC 170000. Once you’re done you should save and reboot. You can also edit PBO thermal limits in the same section if you want to limit the temperatures on your CPU, check out the video from Optimum Tech to see how he accessed the settings m.czcams.com/video/FaOYYHNGlLs/video.html
It’s probably how I set the charts up, pardon me, still working out the best way to present information. It’s not throttling at 105W. I’ve tested the Stock 170W, Eco 105W and Eco 65W. The 7900X is preforming close to stock performance on ECO 105W. This just proves that ECO 105W is a good option if you want to run lower temps over all, these charts don’t really show that because you’ll see better temps on loads that aren’t maxing out each core.
I run this with a 7800X3D. paired the noctua A9x14 with it using the low noise adapter and it keeps the cpu at full performance. hard to measure though since it will hit 85C in prime95 rather its under this or an AIO at full tilt. zen 4 just runs hot in terms of die temps.
I have seen the ID 47 but I feel like I’ve found an adequate solution. I’ll continue fan tasting down the line. The other commenter could probably assist you better as he has a CPU. However gaming on these coolers seem to be just fine, all of my gaming tests were in 4K, if you’re playing 1440 or 1080, you’ll likely yield better thermal results.
Yes, about 1 degree between, the stock cpu profile and 105W eco mode. At 5:21, look at the C23 Scores between the X47 Black and X47 Full Copper. It's still performing better at similar temperatures, it's dispensing heat a lot better.
At 5:21 I compared all of the air coolers I've reviewed, but I only provided test results in 105W ECO Mode because the standard X47 or the X53 Black was not stable at the 170W stock profile with the Ryzen 7900X, I didn't even test the L9a at stock for this reason. However The X47 Full Copper was stable and offered relatively decent performance. I'd say that the 105W eco mode is a better option If you're using and of the AXP-90 lineup.
Great video and interesting results. Thanks for the shoutout as well with the 3D printed pegs!
Thanks man, I think this is the last video covering the Thermalright line of coolers, on to other projects.
Small but maybe important detail : at 2:11 when you attached the AM4 arms, they are on the wrong side. If you look at how the stock Intel arms are mounted at 1:51, the threaded protrusion is on the other side. Not sure if it has any impact on mounting pressure though.
I've always wondered if I was doing it correctly, unfortunately the instructions aren't very detailed.
Thank you for the great feedback, I have heard the call and graphs will be more direct and easily readable in upcoming videos. In order to provide as much data as possible I tried to cram as much on screen as possible. Going forward I'll provide a link to the datasheet for those interested in seeing more data. Thanks again, I'm learning and growing.
Consider making several runs and averaging the results.
Some of the results didn't make sense because of outliers (105W scoring lower than 65W and 170W)
I just want to thank you for all the videos around the Formd T1. I am completely new to pc building, let alone building an ITX one. Your videos holding our hands on the installation process is just a godsend!
Just wondering if the seals are easy to install if I order the ones made available by EIGA? Thanks!
Also, liked and subbed!
Hi, thank you and glad I can help. I’d say ordering the Noctua fan ducts are a good investment, however you would have to get the 3D printed pegs made. It’s not necessary but it does help keep the air focused and pulled directly from outside the case.
I've recently got drawn to ITX builds and your channel is a godsend for the T1 build, more or less the same components i'd want to have in mine. Quick question, are the benchmarks based on 100% fan speed? I'm trying to compare the overall performance difference between the CM Atmos AIO and using air cooler - just based on specs, an AXP-100 full copper might be able to fit?
Hi,
Thanks for your kind words.
I’m pretty sure I noise normalized back when I made this video. I noise normalize now, the results in these tests could be better if you want to run them with a higher fan curve, often the speeds come out to be around 50-60%. If you can afford to liquid cool do it, you’ll have a thermal buffer to run your CPU with higher clocks. The AXP 100 will not fit in the T1 in 3 or 3.25 slot mode.
Glad to finally see this video. Despite how ugly it is, the X47 FC seems to be the way to go for air cooling in the T1.
Is heard about better 120mm coolers but they likely won’t fit
Like most, I was like 'ugh, orange fan' BUT it's got a whole different vibe that matches the copper really nicely when it's spinning. It's a solid and quiet fan, so far, and now if I were to buy a third AXP90-x47 Full Copper and it came with a different color fan, I'd probably go off looking for an orange one. Send me your orange fans, Noctua bois!
They move more air slightly better than the Noctuas but they’re uglier and noisier.
Honestly I think it looks kinda cool with a black fan. Reminds me a lot of EVGA's GTX 1080ti kingpin edition with its massive copper coated cooler
I think so too, don’t have to sacrifice looks for performance
Very good review Chris. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
The AM5 brackets were included or you already had them? New egg lists AM4 only here.
Everything is included. AM4/5 are close
good comparisons , unfortunately the alpenfhon blackridge isn't compatible with am5. can u do a comparison with other low profile coolers on intel plateform ?
Something I can look at in the future :)
Just know that even though copper is a better thermal conductor, aluminum is a better thermal radiator due to its lower density
I’ve heard this, In it returns to idle temps relatively quick. Also as fast as the X47 Black, I’m not sure if the black coating makes it worse than the original aluminum version.
Great video. Somewhere at minute 5:20 you named the cooler for the gaming test x47copper Noctua, but the color is cyan, like the x47copper with thermalright fan. Is it correct? Which combo did you use for the gaming tests?
Which cooler is better: ID cooling IS55 or the thermalright x47copper? I know there is a 8mm difference in height.
At this point in the video the Legend changes to compare other coolers like the X47 black and L9a. I do apologize for the graphs being difficult to read, a criticism I’ve received and plan to fix in the next video.
@@chrisrussellca no worries dude 😉
This was a rough day….. my nails are trimmed and clean… most days 😂
Thanks for the Video! would like to see the comparison between x47 FULL Copper and x47 Black.
Thanks, I may release a stand alone video comparing the data I have on each coolers. I have more data that’s not in these videos
Just rewatch your video, you have covered a little at 5:32
May i know how to set ECO 65 watt or 105 watt through bios?
@@LogimonYT Optimum Tech made a great video on how you can undervolt your Ryzen 7000 CPU. In a section of this video he shows you how to access the PBO settings in your motherboard (It could vary depending on your specific motherboard). If you want to program eco mode in your bios you’ll need to adjust the PPT, TDC and EDC settings manually. Some boards have presets, however it’s best to input the numbers yourself. For 65W; for example you input PPT 88000, TDC 75000 and EDC 150000. For 105W; PPT 142000 TDC 110000 and EDC 170000. Once you’re done you should save and reboot. You can also edit PBO thermal limits in the same section if you want to limit the temperatures on your CPU, check out the video from Optimum Tech to see how he accessed the settings m.czcams.com/video/FaOYYHNGlLs/video.html
It turns out that the noctua l9a does not lose much......... yes, the temperatures are higher, but it is much smaller in size =_=
Not much but a loss is a loss, not by much, negligible
Am I reading these charts wrong or is it thermal throttling at 105W? Glad it's rated at 145W.
It’s probably how I set the charts up, pardon me, still working out the best way to present information. It’s not throttling at 105W. I’ve tested the Stock 170W, Eco 105W and Eco 65W. The 7900X is preforming close to stock performance on ECO 105W. This just proves that ECO 105W is a good option if you want to run lower temps over all, these charts don’t really show that because you’ll see better temps on loads that aren’t maxing out each core.
So decent enough for gaming, so would this technically do better with a 7800x3d? Also have you looked at the id cooling is 47xt?
I run this with a 7800X3D. paired the noctua A9x14 with it using the low noise adapter and it keeps the cpu at full performance. hard to measure though since it will hit 85C in prime95 rather its under this or an AIO at full tilt. zen 4 just runs hot in terms of die temps.
I have seen the ID 47 but I feel like I’ve found an adequate solution. I’ll continue fan tasting down the line. The other commenter could probably assist you better as he has a CPU. However gaming on these coolers seem to be just fine, all of my gaming tests were in 4K, if you’re playing 1440 or 1080, you’ll likely yield better thermal results.
bro must be frying in his house 27 degrees
You’re not lying, too soon for AC.
is the na a9x14 loud at 50 percent?
Very quiet, it’s well optimized at 40-65% speed. Anything above is diminishing returns, but it’s pretty quiet throughout the entire threshold.
@@chrisrussellca thx very much
How does it compare to a 240mm aio?
240mm ofc will beat most if not all low profile coolers
@@jeremyg2236 will it tho since in a sff recycles hot air from the gpu vs low profile takes its own air on its chamber.
@@davenguyen6351low profile cooler is good to go? planning to build it on my lian li a4 h2o
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Yes, about 1 degree between, the stock cpu profile and 105W eco mode. At 5:21, look at the C23 Scores between the X47 Black and X47 Full Copper. It's still performing better at similar temperatures, it's dispensing heat a lot better.