Simagic Alpha Mini DD Wheelbase Review
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- 10Nm servo motor based DD FFB wheelbase from Simagic
Intro: 0:00
Closer Look: 0:41
Look Inside: 13:07
Mounting Options: 33:19
Alpha Manager Tuning App: 51:33
Live Tuning Session: 01:00:02
Driving: 1:20:35
Final Thoughts: 1:25:58
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Monitors: 3 27" Asus ROG PG279Q IPS panels at 144hz. 4th
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Side monitors are at 60° angles. - Věda a technologie
Hey Barry, do you think we could ever get a video of your own personal rig, how its setup, and why you chose those particular components? Anyways great job as always.
This!
its a wood rig with a G25 wheel and a 55HZ 4/3 monitor
That would be amazing
@@heinedenstore Thank
He says it's all subjective so he uses a Logitech g27
Ahhh. It's always a pleasure to watch the Bob ross of sim racing at work.
Another great video, nice job Barry!
That is an accurate way to describe what Barry is to us simracers
Just beat the devil out of it.
I'd love to see Barry play that saxophone in the back!
Playing a saxophone while simracing would be quite impressive
Why am I not surprised that a man with a silky voice plays saxophone.
I wish to see berry play sex a boom....
I'll play the drums, who's on the guitar?
Barry needs to narrate documentaries. Seriously what a voice.
Part of your issue with the "Notch" while passing center, is due to you going from a profile with 900° in Alpha Manager, to one with 1080° without re-calibrating the wheel in game. This will cause Linearity issues and can create a "Notch". This notchy feeling you experienced is only present in iRacing, no other game has this. This is due to the inferior 60hz signal coming from the game which needs a lot of Interpolation/Smoothing. This is also why this issue isn't present when using iRFFB.
Every other game is smooth as silk, the hardware has no notches whatsoever. This is an iRacing issue in itself, which is why users tend to use iRFFB to clean things up and fill in the missing gaps.
Anyway, Thanks for the Review, your Hardware section is great as always.
Btw, I loved ur review on the alpha mini, thanks for taking the time out to make it!
@@DogInANautSuit Thank you, I appreciate the feedback.
Preach! I have never felt any kind of notchy feeling in AMS 2, AC, or ACC. Mega smooth but I am coming from a G29 so of course it's gonna feel better for me 😅.
Simagic has knocked it out the park with this product, can't wait to see their pedals!!
Thank you for your comment, so the solution for the notch feeling is setting both 1080º in Alpha manager and 1080º in iracing?
Thanks for your comprehensive review, Barry. Looking forward to your CSL DD review
Bold of you to assume that there'll be a CSL DD review
@@tracklizard4018 at this point, I really don't care about CSL DD.
@@samgh7166 Me neither. Having to use a fanatec wheel + paying another 100 for 8nm is a deal breaker to me. If only there was a decently budget oriented manufacturer that just created a wheelbase + free software that has a standard bolt pattern for any wheel.
Barry I always like that you teardown stuff 🙂
Dude thank you so much for making these videos
Im building my 4080 rig and i have so little info on mounting.
You make things so much easier by showing all of these details
Thanks for including the metric units.
It's nice to see DD wheels are coming down in price and advancing simracing technology. Even though I think belt driven wheelbases still have their place, but they need to be priced lower (~200-350 EUR). Low entry DD wheels 500-700 - which is already happening. And then the sky is the limit.
I have my personal grievances with Fanatec (the firm) and their DD, I think 0.5DD is their way to get you hooked into their ecosystem. But anyhow, it's a good entry wheel for those who have tried simracing with lower tier wheel and fell in love with the hobby. SiMagic when it first came on my radar, I was excited to see more competition in DD space. And they continue to deliver.
I love this channel. Smooth voice of Barry is almost ASMR brain therapy.
Really waiting for your CSL DD review, hope you get it and show us your review on it!
Hey Barry, small tip: use a rollerball mouse and mount it somewhere on the side of your rig.
thanks Barry for saving my saturday night
What's really nice about the adjustment system with the side bracket at 39:25 is that it means you can make sure each side is perfectly even, where as if it was just one big long slot on each side, you would have to make sure it's level yourself
I have a bit of play in mine when I turn my FFB all the way up :( , it's vertical play.
love your channel just fot the introduction!
Great vid Barry! I just picked up one of these for a rig build
Nice 👍 been waiting for this
I feel your reassembly was performed with more care than at the factory. :-)
Very nice review💪
Hey Berry, if you ever decide to throw out any of these sim servo motor wheels, send it my way haha. Just kidding man. I love watching your videos. Even though I’m still on the G29 wheel I watch your videos so I can dream and maybe have something to look forward too one day. Keep it up man. You’re the best informational content creator when it comes to the sim racing world.
thank you so much , long time sub i come here for informed reviews done logically,,,,,,,,,, thanks Berry
hi barry, so which one do you think is better for street drifting? the simagic M10 or alpha mini?
I wonder if the stepper to servo motor upgrade worth the buck, thanks
Hi Barry, love the content & have done for years, any chance of doing a latest rig tour of yours, that would be great to see, thanks mate
Hi Barry, another great informative video.
there's one thing I need to know though, that wasn't measured.
What is the PCD of the Base side part of the QR ( the part housing the wireless bit) . ?
I actually like the switch on the cord as my Fanatec DD1 switch doesn't turn my wheel off anymore and now I need to send the whole wheel base to Fanatec for repair, whereas if it was built into the cable, maybe there's a chance that the cable would just need to be swapped out. It could be apples and oranges for all I know...
I imagine if the brackets didn't put a gap underneath the wheelbase, adjusting the angle may become difficult.
Did you review the Alpha? I upgrading from the csl DD and my first choice on my short list is the Simagic Alpha everyone says it's great but I wanted to have your impressions on it.
Thanks
Hi Barry, this is really making me want the Alpha Mini! So great video on your behalf!
On another unrelated topic, what microphone do you use? You'd be great at reading audio books! Haha! I would love the microphone you use for streaming!
Just received and installed my Alpha Mini
It's Awesome
What company did you buy it from?
@@MarkNOTW SimRacingPros. Great guys!! Do it!
@@darwinLee81283 That’s where I spotted it in stock but little suspicious with no physical address listed. But Good to hear. Thanks.
@@MarkNOTW Wheel/DD/Shifter all from them.
@@darwinLee81283 👍🏼
Are you getting the CSL DD? Really interested in how that compares.
I will compare it as soon as Simagic sends me my review unit.
This. The two are must compares imo as they are in the same price and performance bracket. Really hoping we will get to see a comparision.
Will removing the quick release mount be a problem with the warranty, because I would like to put on a D1 Spec quick release on it
Which one is the adapter for third party qr systems you talk about? Can't find it on their website. It is the only flaw I found. You need to buy its qr to mount your own (q1r)
Hey Barry just picked up a mini and noticed that u used a computer cord to plug in.. question is could you just get a 240 to 110 adapter and then keep on off switch
It's pretty cool that they put the soc on the PCB in the wheel side of the servo. It presumably would be pretty straightforward to reverse engineer, so those of us with VRS wheelbases can use Simagic wheels ;)
wow Barry! I see the simtrecs propedals GT on that rig and you did the review on them in January... have you had the pedals on there for 7 months?!!
Do you think the Alpha series would mound to the Omega GT Prime wheel plate?
Would you recommend the alpha mini over the m10?
Thanks for the kgs
Hey Barry. Do you fix no power fanatec csl elite wheel base I think the internal fuse is blowing.
The in-line power switch is a great idea. This way you disconnect the mains power
from the power supply as well, not just the wheel base.
Couldn’t you just unplug the whole power supply
So thankful to see this video even though I have no real interest in this product... After the CSL DD came out and Barry didn't post a video I was genuinely concerned for him with what is going on in the world nowadays. So glad to see you are back Barry.
barry only does reviews for a price, i doubt fanatec would pay him when they have all other youtubers in their pocket
@@WhippyWhipGaming and that's why you should never trust a review paid by the company itself
Have you had the chance to review the Simagic alpha ultimate on their latest software?
Good stuff as usual. But I noticed during your gameplay that your screens seem way bigger than 27" as stated in your description. What are you running and why no bezel kit which seems to be the norm on high end rigs?
17:30 At this point could you mount an aftermarket wheel such as a momo, omp, or sparco? What bolt pattern is that?
It's compatible with 50mm and 70mm bolt pattern rims. You just need a spring ball bearing type quick release. Simagic makes their own and the NRG and D1 spec ones are both compatible. Also you don't mount it directly to that.
I'm in doubt about where to adjust the flywheel resistance (flywheel weight). I didn't find the option in SimPro Manager. I saw that in the old software there was this option. Wouldn't it be possible to adjust in the new version? thank you if you know how to help (Alfa 15Nm)
Of course Barry has a sax in the background. Please indulge us with TravisT's request and play some sweet sweet sax for the intro, that would be epic!
Would it be possible to mount it on a normal PC desk, as the Fanatec CSL DD?
Are there other wheels, compatible with this wheelbase?
Like, Fanatec, Moza, Simcube?
May I ask - what mic are you using and what are you recording to? The audio quality is top notch!
Yes thats true. I´m also interested. 🙂
Are we going to see a Fanatec DD review anytime soon?
Is the hub compatible to 70mm wheel pcd after removing front connector for the simagic steering wheel? Cheers!
Yes
Barry, what's your triple screen size and resolution?
Anyone know what bolt pattern the hub of the mini is? Could I take the wireless adapter off and just bolt on a 6x70mm wheel?
Great product for the entry level DD space, but I’m happy I went with the VRS.
What makes the VRS the better option?
@@miguelstevens3042 More nM and almost or less than the simagic mini.
could test the new Alfa U. looks amazing
Hey Barry if you not mind telling me what are the name of the monitors you are using😊
In the description: Monitors: 3 27" Asus ROG PG279Q IPS panels at 144hz. 4th
If you ever get a chance to compare the alpha mini with the cslDD that would be great 😊
Also Big thanks to Barry for the HE sprint and Simworx V3 in-depth review. I decided to buy the simworx. Now deciding wether i should go with alpha mini or csl DD as a potential upgrade (coming from cal elite wheelbase)
thats a useless comparrison, they arent the same torque and the csl dd is only 399 and this on is 800
@@nick-dm3if It's not a useless comparison. Most people are going to be comparing the CSL DD and Alpha mini in the future since they're both cheap and is around the same price with the CSL DD Boost kit.
@@jinx20001 Yea that's true.
@@jinx20001 you are so wrong. Get yourself together. Barry doesn't talk negative about products?!!!! Sorry but I am going to be direct. Are You high? or are you just trying to sound edgy? Stop it because you sound dumb. Watch his reviews again, he always mentions the negative points, what he finds negative (subjectively), he always mentions it if something doesn't work for him, but it could work for someone else. Based on his reviews, I didn't buy fanatec club sport v3. How could he be not negative?just get out of here.
@@nick-dm3if the boost kit makes them almost in the same price and almost in the same torque level.
Long time Barry!! Hope you can review the Thrustmaster SF1000 wheel and Thrustmaster T-GT2
You could review the polsimer f74 Wheel. It is a relatively cheap wheel for simucube and osw wheel bases but it feels really good considering the the price point. : )
I was undecided between this and the Fanatec csl DD and in the end i chose the VRS DFP ... I'm delighted (the wallet a little less).
In the meantime, i'm still interested in the review
What wheel did you get for the DRS?
Me too, I went with the VRS DFP and I’m very happy I did that. Still this product seems like quite a good option.
you literally did the perfect choice, dont ever even think of regretting it
Recentlt go the alpha mini with the carbon gt4 wheel with clutch pedals its amazing honestly coming from a t300 even though the wheel is almost the price as the base it is worth every penny everything has felt like a very premium product except for the packaging but that’s fine as long as they are passing the quality their product which they have.
What company did you order it from?
@@MarkNOTW where i live there’s an official sim magic distributor so i got it from them
@@pokemonquartz04 ok and you’re still happy with it?
@@MarkNOTW yeah for sure
@@pokemonquartz04 cool thanks
please do a simagic alpha 15nm review if you get the chance 😁
How does it compare to the M10
Will this base work with the NRG quick release hub?
Yes
I've had my Mini + GT4 dual clutches bundle for about 2 weeks now and I have to say that it has been worth Absolutely every penny for me. Only complaint is I wish my grips weren't Alcantara (I dislike wearing gloves while gaming and I don't wanna have to take care of it so much.) Highly recommend it and remember to support more companies than just Fanatec! Only real problem I've heard of is that there is play within the optional mount they sell, which is unfortunate.
This looks very similar to Cammus wheel. Do you think so too?
@@kresimircosic9035 it looks somewhat to the M10 but not the Mini... Simagic probably sold some of their old IP.
I think they put the switch on the cable so the power supply is no more eating power when you switch of...
Hey can u do a review on the pxn v9?
At 10Nm the wheel's making more torque than the actual GT3 car is, so I think it's alright enough ;).
How dare you 😅 you can't tell that to some "simracers" they would probably hurt you. 😂😂
Amg gts gt3 has about 8nm of torque from the power steering
@@eqinoo3746 Yeah, Audi R8 is 7-8Nm assisted IIRC. 13Nm unassisted. Some peaks do come through, though, being racecar PS.
Great review (as always!).
@1:28:16: At $500 this is a great deal. Although Barry mentions the promo runs until end of August, the price now already shows $799.00 on August 15, which isn't that much of a good deal anymore, especially with the Fanatec CSL DD just around the corner.
@Polymer If you clicked on the link at the bottom, and read the description, you would see that $799 is for the mini base plus a GT1 Wheel, which is a great deal.
@@T3KNOSIS EDIT: WEBSITE NOW UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT THE GT1-R WHEEL IS INDEED INCLUDED! Original post:
Aye, thanks for that. You are correct....HOWEVER: the thing is: I don't quite trust that.
1) The picture is of the Alpha Mini DD only; there is no GT1-R picture.
2) At the ALPHA page (not Mini) the description clearly states: "SIMAGIC ALPHA + GT1-R STEERING WHEEL" and the SKU reads: "SIMAGIC_ALPHA_GT1SR". With the Alpha Mini it only states: "SIMAGIC ALPHA MINI - 1 Yr Warranty" and the SKU reads: "ALPHA_MINI".
Someone REALLY needs to call them and find out if the WHEEL is indeed included or NOT! 🤔🤔🤔
@@T3KNOSIS thats 950 now lol
@@mirshia5248 The price was a special launch deal that would end in the 2nd half of August.
@@T3KNOSIS cool so no one should buy the damn thing now since its no longer a budget wheel asking for budget price its now a budget wheel asking for high end price, lol idiots
This guy and Ian McCollum should have a competition for the best hairdo
I see DCS on your desktop and those MFG Crosswinds on the wall 👀 Favorite module?
Christen Eagle
Will you be doing a review of the CSL DD?? Would love to see that :)
Most likely that he will do one once he can get a production model. His review process doesn't suit pre-production models because of the changes that can occur for the final product.
Rob Gemmell Production review units have been sent out already
@@isaacsmith2224 It's pretty rare, if at all, for Barry to release a review before the release date. I could be wrong, but I can't recall any review where he has a review before release day. So I would be surprised if we saw a CSL DD video before early September (I believe this is the first batch release.)
CSL DD WHEN OOGA CHACKA
So I have the T300 & i Irace but I need more of a wheel peddle setup. I’m I want a setup that I will love & learn for the next 3 or so years. I’m going mind dead trying to figure out what I should go to next. I’m not a technical so I’m already at a loss for what I’m doing. I don’t think I want a fanetec just because of the tech support is so bad for all I hear. How do I find out what is the right wheel for me.thanks for any help
I am not technical also, and don't have much knowlegde about computers. I hardly know the difference between firmware and software and sometimes I get lost in all technical terms. But I've pre-ordered the CLS DD. It doesn't seems so hard to install everything. When I made the decision to upgrade I wanted to purchase a CSW 2.5. But than the CLS DD came around the corner. I was hesitant, but the pre & reviews were very positive. DD seemed always so far out of my reach, so now I want to go for it.
@@MrMikap74 idk the difference between firmware & software..lol. I went into store & said I need enough to what ever to play Iracing showed him the good better best’ & got the better.lol. Then FaceTime a friend & he help me set it up.lol.& that’s why I’m looking at the mini because it had good reviews & I think this month it only $500 bucks but then you have to buy the wheel.lol.
How does this compare to the Moza R9 with the RS Racing Wheel?
Simagic much better quality, feel like top premium. Moza feel cheap.
Also could anyone tell me whats the measure of 17:12 holes pattern?
Hi! What's the shaft diameter?
Which Sparco seat is this?
could one bult a wheel straight into that thing or is the QR a must?
I realize that it would not have buttons and lights and all that jazz. Idc about that, I just want a clean 3rd party wheel w/o bells and whistles.
Is it compatible with other pedals? Like Moza or Fanatec? As Simagic pedals start from $500
On PC you don't connect through your wheel base. You will use USB to directly attach your pedals which means you can use any pedals you like
Can you connect Fanatec pedals to Alpha Mini base?
They’ll connect to PC via usb.
This vs csl dd?
That style plug on the power cable is Australian.
...and also used in New Zealand, China, Argentina.....
I don't know why, but I want to purchase an Olympus Camera now.
😸✌🏻
Won't you review the VRS DirectForce wheel base?
czcams.com/video/CpEV2QQT2LY/video.html
Lol I can see my cat stepping on that switch in the middle of a race.
CSL DD review?
I've made an appointment with my local retailer to test this out (technically I've already decided I want to buy it). Is there a handy list of what each setting does in the app?
I cancelled my pre-order for the CSL-DD. Shipping it in from Australia is going to add a few more hundred dollars in delivery and taxes, which destroys the whole value proposition. And I shudder at the thought of getting after sales support. With a Simagic local retailer, it's an easy choice for me.
Judging from the teardown, this look more impressive than csl dd. All simagic has to do now is to make / license more steering wheels.
Well it's more expensive too.
@@johnjack1355 here in china the alpha mini retails at less than 50 dollars of difference from the csl dd with 8nm power supply
beside the 2nm extra in the Simagic Alpha Mini DD what do you think would be a better buy the Simagic Alpha Mini DD or the FANATEC CSL DD the price is not much different ?
VRS
Well, the Simagic has better compatibility with third party steering wheels (lower and higher quality compared with Fanatec wheels). It also has a better finished, wireless system (which fanatec doesn´t need and works as it would be wireless), much better quick release (this one is amazing), a very interesting controller software full of options, ... Fanatec has nice pros as well but I´d bet for Simagic.
So I'm got a cockpit on order now I need to decide if I should go for the alpha mini or spend more $$$ and get the vrs direct drive will I ever need or use 20nm or will 10nm be more then enough ???
Sc 2 Pro user here. I run like most other Guys my Wheelbase between 10 and 13 NM. No one uses 20 NM on a daily basis. But it is good to know that you don't stress the hardware and there is enough Headroom so FFB Clipping will never be an issue.
@@bjornromermann5080 ok thanks for the info ill hold onto my csl elite for a few more months might look at getting decent set of pedals first over a direct drive wheelbase maybe I'll do a bit more research on what is best for the next upgrade path
@@fabz1817 Yeah definetly update the Pedals first. A strong DD Wheelbase is still a luxury Item. You don't need it but like an Ferrari it will bring you soooo much joy. Personally I would always go the Simucube Route again. Super sturdy and build to last for ever with an excellent Software support.
@@bjornromermann5080 yea would love a simcube but can't justify the price diffrence here in Australia simcube 2 sport $2000aud VRS direct drive $1400aud and since the vrs has had amazing reviews not sure it $600 is worth it I am looking at the protosimtech pt2 pedals or some heusinkveld sports
@@fabz1817 ouch 600 Bucks is quite a lot. In Europe is the Difference not so big so the decision for Simucube is easier. But these are really luxury Items and in the end of the day everyone has to decide for himself how deep the hole in the pocket may be. Regardless what you will buy you will be very happy!
Hey Barry,
It's been quite awhile since we last chatted. I'm considering getting the PT-Actuator but can't decided whether to go with the 5DOF or 6DOF. How do I consult with you on this matter?
Thanks,
Van
info@simracinggarage.com
Would this be a good upgrade coming from a Thrustmaster ts-xw ?
Do you find the answer?
@@thesun7435 I bought it ,yes it is an amazing upgrade it’s easy to set up my pc recognized it so I did not have issues I highly recommend it
The power switch on the cord is not that bad, as it switches off the power supply as well. You could argue to have a switch on the power brick instead, but at least I find this a better solution than putting the switch on the base.
Or couldn’t you unplug the power supply every time no?
@@kingnorwegin482 too many options. Cannot manage.
Firmware is weird with Simagic, the 60xx series is Alpha and the 70xx series is for the Mini...but it's basically the same firmware.
Hello my friend.. whats you choose? SIMAGIC alpha mini or Moza R9 ? Thanks
Alpha mini 5000000x
Have you used CSL DD 8 NM? How you compare it with Alpha Mini ?@@magicpierrick3213
A big question here: did you ever manage to make the Simagic Alpha Mini work in Project cars 2 or Automobilista 2? It never works for me. Very difficult to even assign and calibrate, have to reduce the rotation to tiny angles. But even after that, in game there is 0 movement from the wheel. All the buttons are recognized, even axis of the paddles, but not the rotational axis. Tried with all settings I could on the Simagic software and in game, same result in both of those games.
it works in both of those games for me.
Yes offcourse, ams2 works amazing.
@@pallevan1977 Oh nice, thanks for that information. i've been trying to find out for a while if simagic harmonizes well with ams2 and haven't found anything yet.
Do you still sometimes drive in ams2 with your simagic, is it still good?
@@Pro-Bert I drive in ac, acc, ams 2 and rfactor 2. And it's great!
@@pallevan1977 Thank you! That helps me much. 🙂👍
I wonder how this compares to the csl dd
Depend. Alpha Mini does have 10Nm compared to CSL DD's 5-8Nm (iRacing staff even got 13Nm)
I've thought a moment of purchasing the Alpha Mini instead of pre-ordering the CLS DD, but for me its just a step too far in the dark. No idea what to expect. Quit happy I've made that choice. Only the waiting is grilling me
If you think Fanatec is all bright lights, you are in for a suprise :)
how is it?
Simagic send the man a alpha base to review already he's already reviewed it main competitor the immsource et5 and there's like two reviews of it and like 20 for the mini.
Brother where is the csl dd review plz 😫