Which Should You Be Growing | Lima Beans OR Butter Beans
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- What's the difference between a lima bean or butter bean and which should you be growing? It all depends on where you were raised. Greg goes over the types of bush and running butter beans, and how and when you should plant them.
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0:00 start
0:12 Lima beans or butter beans - which should you grow
0:39 bush beans and pole beans - what's the difference
1:20 advantages of bush beans
1:50 advantages of pole beans
2:56 different varieties of lima beans
7:11 Hoss' preferred way of growing butter beans
7:23 make sure you use drip tape when growing butter beans - Jak na to + styl
We call them butter beans here in MS! I grow the Christmas butter beans. My family loves them and they are easy to grow and tastes so good. I could not find them locally this year. Thankfully I had saved seeds last years since they are an heirloom. I did purchase some from you all but had to buy the small packs due to the larger quantity was sold out. We received our high arch wheel hoe and hubby loves it.
I grew up and still live in VA. My parents and all of our neighbors always had summer gardens. We had the pole running beans. We all call them butter beans. My mother would pick them and all 6 of us kids HAD to help she'll them. Those were the best says. Fried chicken, butter beans and homemade biscuits or homemade dinner rolls. My mother could certain cook.
Oh yeah! Good eatin' right there.
Momma called the ones that cooked up brown or speckled butter beans and the ones that cooked up green were lima beans.
We do need to talk about that! Love butter beans and Okra. I grew up in very southern SC. I remember colored butter beans. I hated picking them in the summer when school was out and momma was a work. She wanted em picked and shelled for freezing before she got home. I think Henderson is the one!
I have some Christmas runners. I'm in the mountains of NC so just planting them now.
My 83 yo neighbor is a fanatic about what you would call a Butter Bean. If it's got any kind of green tint to it. "It is NOT a Butter bean!" She said the bean has to be yellow, like butter period! I cant even tease her about it. I only grow for her the Alabama blackeye Butter Bean. Whew doggie there ain't no changing her mind. Lesson learned. LOL
Been picking, shelling and eating speckled butter beans for over 50 years. The only Butter Bean/Lima Bean I will touch.
It's all my grandpa grew and all I grow too.
It's all my grandpa grew and all I grow too.
Here in upstate SC, butter beans are speckled, and they turn gray when cooked. They taste totally different than the traditional lima beans that are green and stay green when cooked. Then there’s also butter peas, which are like a small round pale green/cream colored version of limas and taste like limas. They’re all good, but there’s definitely a difference between butter beans and lima beans.
maybe the limas you describe are just mature. But yes I have had those too. My sister always says there is a difference between baby limas and baby butter beans. His explanation seems to match what I can google though.
Except they are the same, the maturity is what’s different.
I agree with you Toni. Here in SC go to a Publix store and you will find cans and packages of Lima beans AND cans of Butter beans. NOT the same thing at all. Similar but different in size, texture and flavor.
There are different varieties available but a "butter bean" is exactly the same thing as a "lima bean". They are just generic terms for Phaseolus lunatus.
Yeah, I wouldn’t give 2 cents for a bushel of limas. Butter beans are great and my grand babies won’t eat a lima bean either.
I'm trying a new way to fasten the Hortinova trellis to steel T-post this year. I measured the depth of each "cell" of the Hortinova to be 61/2" so I used a metal cutting blade on my grinder to cut a 1/4“ notch in top of my 8' T-posts and then a 45 degree notch every 6 1/2 below the top so I can just put each strand of the netting in a notch and I only need a zip tie to hold it at the bottom. I looks great so far with my beans running up about half way so far.
BUTTER BEANS, raised on those big, creamy beans. From fresh, frozen and/or dry and soaked, then cooked. All YUMMY! Currenty just started both bush and pole. Want to load up the freezer and pantry with BUTTER BEANS. Can eat them just heated with butter, salt and pepper. Delicious! Or in/as soup. Love, Love, Love them.
I always called the green/cream colored ones lima beans and the speckled ones butter beans.
When I was a kid on the farm, early 1950's, we called them runner beans and, naturally, on trellis. The seed packets, if we had to by seed for some reason, said they were butter beans. Apart from the fact I live on the bottom half of planet in Australia so the seasons are reversed, it all looks very familiar. I'm really enjoying your take on growing the vegetable garden and you've taught me heaps about growing sweet corn as it's not a big thing in Australia, we are just too dry in the main and it took to much water the way we did it.
Lima beans are white, dry beans that we soak then cook with a scrumptious smoked hamhock. Butter beans are fresh from garden and are green and delicious too!!! 😋 NC here.
Depends on where you’re from. Some folks lima beans are green when they’re picked fresh and white butter beans when picked to dry.
Butter beens is what I have always called them and my favorite is the Christmas butter beans.
Thank you that explanation. I plan to add this vegetable to my garden next year. We so enjoy your channel and all the information. I’m using your fertilizers and so far my plants love them!👍🏻😃
I was from Iowa. We called them Lima beans. I never heard the term “butter bean” until we moved to Oklahoma. I must admit, I like the smaller ones.
I do love your restock feature. Happy gardening 🌻
Thanks so much!
Butter Beans, always! Now I understand why my grandfather preferred the climbers, and now I'm appreciating climbers even more at my age. He used to plant his climbing butter beans on each side of an old concrete walkway the milk cows used to go into the old dairy barn. Easy to maintain and my feet didn't sink down in the mud picking beans with him after a rain. The best part was shelling the butter beans while watching Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese call a baseball game on a hot summer afternoon.
This will be my first year growing butter beans. I'm in Alabama and I got some of those Christmas ones growing up in the big garden. I'm excited to see how they turn out. I've heard great things about them.
In Texas, the drought has been so bad. We are finally getting some rain. I planted a few Christmas Lima Beans today. We have better soil this year than last year. Hoping they produce. Thanks Greg!
I’ve always called the speckled beans, butter beans, and the green ones lima beans. Henderson bush beans have always been our favorite, but at my age, find it harder every year to crawl around on the ground to harvest them. For some reason, never have much luck growing Fordhooks. Trying the Christmas beans this year for the first time. I purchased some your trellis this year. Would love to find some if the speckled, running beans to plant, I remember planting them years ago. Happy gardening to all!
I love climbing veges..more to plant..easier to harvest..thankyou for the video!!
I love the Christmas Lima beans. I just cooked up my last pot of them. I buy not grow. Goodness the price for them has skyrocketed.
Picked & shelled butter beans by the bushel. My Dad had a butter bean picking stool that I inherited! Good memories! I enjoy your videos
That is awesome!
I like both types and have called them both. I am from the north (Illinois) and now live in the south (Alabama). I tried some Alabama black eyed lima/butter last year. Great producers and taste pretty good also. My favorite so far though are great norther beans and wax beans.
We love the Fordhook lima beans. It is one of our favorite vegetables to can and eat all winter. While I have grown this variety for some time, I have purchased the seed from Hoss Tools the past two years. The germination rates have been the best I have planted. Keep up the good work!
Happy to hear it, Pat! Appreciate you.
Thank you for a great video.
Thanks for the Butterbean info
South of Cincy. just realized I like lima beans! ....growing Fordhook and king of the garden this season.
It's august in 9b FL so I'm going to attempt to plant butter beans. My favorite since I was a kid
Hey Papa Hoss - Thanks for the education on this type of BUTTER BEAN. I'm a northerner and would refer these beans as BUTTER BEANS. The only other type of Limas are the BROWN KIDNEY LIMA BEANS. Up north all we grew were STRING BEANS AND PEAS. YOU are the best channel on the internet!!!
Always Butter Bean. Lima Beans were those dried white beans you soaked all night. My Big Mama made sure we knew the differences. I love love love to eat Fordhooks and speckled Butter Beans, but I love to grow Christmas Poles.
Sieva Carolina Butterbeans have always been my go to choice for climbing variety.
The speckled one is a Borlotti bean. They also come in bush and climbing varieties.
I just built a nice high (back saving) raised bed. This sounds perfect.
Here in SC, Butter Beans.
I’m pretty sure when I was a child, 55 years ago, my great grandmother grew Purple Hulls. Maybe that was a pea? But, she did grow Butter Beans, too!
I grew up in the North but moved to the South as quick as I could! I grew up calling them Lima beans, but here everyone calls them butter beans and they are very popular. I haven't grown them myself but I look forward to trying both types next year. thanks for the great info!
Thanks for sharing!
I thought they were two different types of beans, lol. I tried them for Christmas this year and they were good. Here in Alabama we always mixed the butter beans with lady finger peas and okra. That was the only way I would eat a butter bean until Christmas. I ate two helpings of them, lol. They called them Lima beans because they were the larger bean compared to the ones we eat in the lady finger peas with okra.
I grew up in Maryland and we called them large lima beans. The smaller one's baby Limas. If the color was light green we called them butter beans. No matter what, they all were yummy with some smoked pork in them. I still love them and still eat them all the time. I also grow there here in S.C.. Great VIDEO, thanks FOR THE INFO TOO.
Yes- we love speckled runner butter bean
Grew up eating all versions
of butter beans & readily available. Shelled them weekly with my mammaw in Louisiana. Can’t find them easily here in TX so I’m going to plant some this spring 🤞🏼 wish me luck ! Thanks for the tips!
Sounds great!
I love my lima/butter beans, I've got the climbing type and they just keep growing and growing and producing. I picked so much this year. In fact I'm cooking some right now 😅 just harvested them a couple days ago blanched and froze
Good stuff!
Great video. I think I will plant some.
Go for it!
Here in Horry County SC every Sunday dinner you have to have Speckled butterbeans (Jackson Wonder Bush) and rice as your sides
I don’t grow them, but I sure love cooking a big pot of butter beans with some onions and Tasso, over a big piece of sweet cornbread. I wish I was physically able to grow a big garden. Trying to grow a few things this year in a couple of Greenstalk planters and a bunch of self watering 5 gallon buckets.
Got my King of the Garden going on my arch T post and wire arch trellis. It has a ridiculous amount of foliage, but so far the bloom and pod production has been slow. Going to pick them all off, give them some potassium and phosphate rich fertilizer, and see how they progress with the next round.
Hope you carry the climbing speckled butter bean next year. The seeds are hard to find. Great video! 🌻
I hope so too!
I'm a northern girl whose mamma made her eat lima beans ....I hate them with a passion. As an adult gardener who has never grown beans but know I should... I was hoping by your video title that you would give me good news cause butter beans sounds better lol...but now you say they are lima beans. I loved the bamboo story which made me say "dang!" at how tall the beans grew lol. I know you southerners know how to cook all kinds of beans the best....was hoping someone would give me good advice on growing a nutty flavor, pole running bean to grow in central Ohio that will cook to a soft texture but not the gritty lima bean. ;)) Great video - those Christmas beans looked pretty enough to create art with.
I've always called them butter Beans. My wife (from Florida) called them Lima's. Anyway back in June I planted some and didn't know what I had. they are runners and so far I haven't picked any yet. Still filling out the pods. Upstate SC.
Butter beans here in NC. My mom and dad and I always grow a hybrid Thorogreen that would be considered to be a baby lima bean and it's a bush variety
I would plant both and see which has the best success. Never know until you try - Sometimes you would be surprised.
In Colorado we call the green ones lima and white ones butter beans. I'm planting Fordhook this year
Here in East Texas I've always heard them called butter beans. Whatever you want to call them, they are delicious when cooked the right way.
Sounds great!
Don't know yet that's why I'm here. Thanks
They are butter beans... Mostly bush type my dad planted and I have in the garden now, however based on this video I will definetly give the running type a try. Thanks for the info.
Sounds great!
I'm originally from Delaware. Delaware has long been one of the big cash crops for DE farmers, and has been one of the biggest producers of frozen/canned limas. But while DE farmers produce bush lima beans for the grocery stores, for their own gardens they tend to grow pole varieties that are passed down through families.
I’m from the foothills of nc and up until a few years ago I had no idea what a butter bean was. We always called them limas… then I heard a guy from Alabama I think keep talking about butter beans and I was clueless to what he was talking about and he was amazed I had never ate them. Well then we both got on the same page and I realized he was talking about limas 🤣
Ain't nothin' like a big bowl of butter beans with a side of hot corn bread, makes my mouth water just thinking about it.
Growing up on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, we always grew the bush lima beans. When I had my own garden, I started growing the Sieva Lima bean (may also be known as the Carolina Sieva) a trellising type. Grateful that I started saving my own seed as they stopped offering it commercially as far as I can tell. I can plant them in June or early July and can pick until the first part of November as long as the weather cooperates.
Hello, I was wondering if I could get a huge favor from you. When my dad passed my brothers tossed all his seeds, including his Carolina Sieva beans. I have been searching for years to find them with no luck. I have resorted to reaching out to people like yourself in hopes of sharing these delicious butter beans with my 2 younger daughters. Would you be willing to help so I can start putting up my own Sieva beans and bringing back this delicious bean. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In NC. Thank you
@@brianneedham5539 It took me a while to find them and I have planted almost all of mine. That said, I do try and save seed in the fall. I found mine at Seed Savers. Unfortunately I tried to purchase another pack recently and they were sold out. Let me see what I can save and I will let you know.
@@sandrafishman6588 thank you so much please let me know. I would happily pay for postage. I don’t know of any other way to make this happen except help from other gardeners.
My entire family was born and raised in NE FL and if they were green, they were limas, if they were speckled, theu were butter beans 🤣
Same here! I'm from the same area. :)
I grew up in MS and LA, and that's the same as we always called them. Lima beans are green and have a distinct taste that is as quite different from brown or speckled butter beans -- even though they have a similar shape. Either way, y'all have got to cook them with some bacon. (I retired to NE FL recently.)
I plant butter beans and butter peas. I get way more than 3 pickings. If you work a little fertilize. And lime them when you start seeing rust on leaves. I can pick mine up until frost.
Ive got 1000 butter bean plants in the ground. Hoping for enough for a family of 8. Will succession them. Have both runner and bush types.
We grew a small, sweet lima that we called a butter bean. Limas were bigger so we had a distinction (Tennessee).
👍 I call them both because my mom was from a more northern Southern state and my dad was from a Southern state. 😸 ~kinda~
Here in southeastern N.C. we call them green or dry lima beans , but the pole or speckled we call butter beans .
We called fresh ones butter beans and when they were dry we called them limas. I loved colored butter beans but they are hard to find. But, I like green & speckled ones, too.
We're the opposite! Called the fresh ones lima beans and the dried ones butter beans.
In Alabama we have also a black-eye butterbeans that is a runner also
I’m from the south…Fl, but we have always called them lime beans. I like to grow the vines. But that’s probably because I have a bad back & it’s hard to bend over🤣. I used to grow the bush. But I also like the vine because they produce all summer. A lot more for ur time & money. U only have to buy the Equipment once & then u can reuse it every yr.
Central Louisiana : I grow Christmas butter beans which a had to order from NC this spring, some get half $ size, i love them, Florida speckled butter beans, climbing on livestock panels, i was given a small handful of some herritage speckeled butter beans from Arkansas it think. Pole beans supposedly but they have stubby runners and hoards of bush runners, all my beans are catching their second wind so to speak, the herritage beans have out produced the others so far but we had 23 days of rain in August alone 17.6 in., Now that we are getting a little sun shine they are loading down with new pods, i use chicken manure in all my garden and side dress with 888,
Sounds great, ours are blooming again also.
I have purchased from y’all some 20-20-20 and fed this last year to my plants. The tomato stems at the end of the season were about 3/4 to 1” in diameter. But this year I was wondering if you could maybe cover a topic of using chelated liquid iron for vegetables. No one on CZcams has a video about this besides lawns care and a couple of lame videos on this subject.
I love them all. Butter or Lima of course the uppity people called them "Fordhooks". They are all good!!
Both
There is another fantastic pole lima butterbean i wish you would carry, it is the Carolina Sieva Lima Pole Bean, absolutely one of the best tasting butterbeans i have ever eaten!
I am trying these this year. Glad to hear they are good tasting
My favorite is willow leaf. They are a running butterbean. To get them to produce good, you need to plant with the moon.
I wanted to try these this year but couldn't find any seed.
@@rogerbox2540 Do you mind if I ask where you found the sieva/Carolina bean? I am struggling to find them in stock anywhere.
I have grown the Christmas pole beans for several years...love them! But this past summer, I moved them and they ended up in growing into a tree. I ended up having to get a ladder to pick them...lol. definitely be careful where you put them, they run everywhere! Worth it though.
Oh wow!
I just call em "good eats". I like them all.
We call them butter beans or what ever the menu calls them. Lol. I prefer the climbing ones, but my favorite to eat is your Mississippi Purple hull preas. Please do a video on them.
I grow the climbing lima bean and Kentucky pole green bean. I let the kids pick the low hanging ones cause I cant get back up so easy anymore
Butter beans! Of course!
My agreement with my grandmother was; if I picked them and shelled them- I didn’t have to eat them.😂
Frist time growing Lima beans growing king of the garden Lima beans wondering what pest should I look for and see what is the best pesticide to spray I spray on a ten day program for the rest of the garden wondering what you would recommend
This is from our bean growing guide
hosstools.com/bean-growing-guide/
Organic Controls
Garden Insect Spray - Thrips, Army Worms, leaf miners
Horticultural Oil - Aphids, Stinkbugs, Flea Beetle, Whiteflies, Spider Mites
Bug Buster-O - Aphids, Flea Beetle, Whiteflies
Monterey BT - Armyworms
Take Down Garden Spray - Aphids, Army Worms, Flea Beetle, Whiteflies
Diatomaceous Earth - Cutworms
Non-Organic Controls
Bug buster ll - Aphids, Horn Worms, Stinkbugs, Flea Beetle, Whiteflies, Spider Mites, Thrips and leaf Miner
Treat as needed using label instructions.
Are you planning on growing a seed bank for sale of the Alabama butter beans?
possibly
Trellis and butter beans for sure
Thanks Greg, and we calls 'em butter beans!
Down in the South Carolina Gullah County" if you cook em while their " green n fresh" they call em lima beans" if you cook em dry n brown" they call em butter beans" Tomatoe " Tamatoe " Potatoe " Patatoe " right" BUT " we can agree" WE LOVE EM"" a big pot full cooked with smoked turkey and chopped onions "wit a slab of cornbread on da side" Oooooooo my GOODNESS " delicious 😋 👌
The large limas (We call butter beans) and the speckled butter bean taste nothing alike. The small limas we call baby butter beans. The green ones are lima beans. Here in my parts of Alabama. ☺️
Exactly!!
So the fordhooks are the big white butter beans? I have been wanting to try and grow them but i dont really care for the green ones.
Quick question Greg. Do you usually put preplant fertilizer to be 2 solo cups of 10-10-10 per 30 row-ft for most crops? Thank you.
Our pre plant that we like to use is the Complete organic Fertilizer.
How do you keep the deer out of your garden? 30.06 We have deer that think they are pets. I can walk out to my garden and shoo them away and they will only walk away. I have since had to make chicken wire panels to keep them at bay. Also Irish spring soap. I like those speckled lima beans. My Grandmother used to make those large butter beans on Sunday afternoon dinner.
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Enjoy your videos. What is the spacing of your T-Post? Thanks
3 ft
What fertilizer do they prefer and how often do you apply it?
check out our bean growing guide, If you scroll down to the middle it has a fertilizer schedule.
hosstools.com/bean-growing-guide/
ooooooooooowww man i love lima beans it is amazing how long it takes two cook them..lol emmmmmm butter poached lima beans is ware its at.... emmmmmm
Never heard butter beans.. always heard lima beans. Mostly omly in the frozen vegetable packs, though.
I've never grown either one, but I thought Lima beans which I don't like are green and Butter beans are white which I do like 😅 Now I'm stumped if they are the same thing lol 🤔
Hi, Hoss. I would really appreciate your expert opinion.Can you please answer me this: For fertilizing tomatos and peppers,what is an alternative to fish emulsion. I can't locate it where I live. Would blood meal or bone meal suffice ? Thank you . God bless.
This is what we use in place of the Fish Emulsion.
hosstools.com/product/fish-and-guano-fertilizer/
Butter Beans !!! Do you supply Fava Bean Seeds ? I would love to grow some but can't find seeds .
Yes we do, link below
hosstools.com/product/fava-bean/
What about butter peas?
I have the Christmas butter bean from a small store, I’m in Oklahoma. How will I know if it bush or pole bean.
Pole beans grow tall and need a support such as a pole. Bush beans grow about one to two feet high in more of a bush shape and don't require support. Bush beans will take up more garden space to produce the same yield as pole beans
Hey Hoss, I grew Ford Hook two years ago with little success. Last year I grew King of the Garden running beans and still got little to show for the number of plants I grew. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. They took all summer to produce and I just didn't get very many limas. Do I have to plant a really long row to get enough to eat? We love them and I would really like to get a successful crop. I call the little green ones limas and the speckled ones butter beans.
Here in Alabama , my family did the same; we called them either Green Limas or when left to dry, Butterbeans. My parents had a well drained sandy loam, and we had more beans than we knew what do with. Usually grown in a single 30ft row. We grew Ford Hook mostly but also speckled runner beans. I no longer have the runner bean seed.
@@kennydavis2276 I grew up on a farm on lookout mountain between Gadsden, and Ft Payne. Some of the best soil ever for any vegetable. Just the right amount of silt, sand, clay and humus. I sure miss the butter beans from there. Now I buy them and cook them the same way but the taste just isn't the same.
@@Dave-ty2qp We used to have family reunions at Noccalula Falls. My Mamma was raised in that area and took me to a crack in a cliff called fat man squeeze. LOL. I couldn't walk through it now. Sadly, we have no more dirt farmers in the family in that area. Most, if not all of them have given up on that life.
@@kennydavis2276 I used Noccalula Falls for my play ground when I was a kid. Lived in Al's Hollar about three miles by bicycle from there. In the fifties there was nothing there except for the statue, and a short fence. Great place to swim and fish. Small world isn't it. 😀
@@Dave-ty2qp It sure is. My Mamma said it was their playground as well. There was no park or statue. Her Daddy was one of the idiots that went over the falls wearing a motorcycle helmet. It almost killed him, Lol. Idiot was his word, not mine.
She said that they picked up hundreds of arrowheads, knives etc. She snuck a bunch of us kids off of the marked paths and showed us a bunch of hidden petroglyphs that they had discovered as kids. I have always wondered if archaeologists even knew about most of them since you had to be small enough to worm into caves and crevices . One small cave reminded me of Lascaux Caves in France. Fascinating to say the least. If someone is in good health, they could spend weeks exploring the creek area and not see everything that is there.
Florida runners cant beat em!
I planted what was labeled as Bush lima beans. They are growing beautifully but have runners that are about 2 feet long. Is this normal? Do I need to trellis these? I didn’t expect to see any runners on the bush beans. This is my first time growing Lima beans so I was not sure what to expect. Thanks for your guidance! I enjoy watching your videos and have learned much from them.
No, should not have that long of runners with Bush beans. I would trellis.
@@gardeningwithhoss thanks so much!