I Built a WORKING Mini PowerMac G3!
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2021
- It seems like everyone has a cool miniature version of their favorite classic tech - except us Mac fans! Today, with the help of long-time friend of the channel Taylor, we're out to right this wrong.
What does it take to turn this awesome 3D printed mini Blue and White G3 case into a working Power Mac? Stay tuned and find out!
🍎 Want to turn your own Raspberry Pi 3B or newer into a Raspberry Mac? Here's my SD card image! archive.org/details/raspberry...
If your Pi has trouble booting it, open the boot/config.txt and turn down the overclocking options.
🔨 Thingiverse link: www.thingiverse.com/thing:389...
💎 Here's the switch that fits perfectly in the power button space: amzn.to/36tOia6
💎 Here's the fan I used in the bottom case: amzn.to/3ajuabO
💎 My adorable little LCD screen: amzn.to/36uRD8S
🖥 Here's a quick list of what I did to make the Pi behave all Mac-like:
⚙️ Turned off bootup text in /boot/ options on the Pi
⚙️ Systemd loads fbi framebuffer image viewer to show the Happy Mac (it's a screenshot!)
⚙️ Systemd loads aplay to play the boot chime
⚙️ Systemd loads my QEMU startup script, which loads the MacHD image and boots it
⚙️ I modified QEMU Screamer source code to remove its startup messaging, and compiled it
My modified QEMU source code is available in the image alongside the compiled QEMU.
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Turned out great, would be awesome to see a custom 3d printed case for that monitor to make it match the mini computer
Thanks Hugh! Yeah I'd love to figure that out, and make a casing like the original blueberry Apple Studio Display
@@ActionRetro you should get a 3d printer so you can make more videos like this
YES! The 15" Apple Studio Display would be *perfect* ! You know the one... the semi-translucent bondi-blue or smoke grey with the stand that telescoped up and down... one of the first LCD monitors I'd seen in a computer lab growing up... everymac.com/monitors/apple/studio_cinema/specs/apple_studio_display.html
Hugh Jeffrey's your car restoration was really good. Keep it uo
Hey it's Hugh Jeffreys
Action Retro - "Where's our miniature Macs"
Mac Mini - "I've been around since 2005!"
11 inch MacBook air: "what about me"
Maybe it's just me but I think you could probably fit the guts out of a PPC Mac Mini into this case with a bit of work. That would certainly perform better and feel more authentic. Before he said it was for a Pi I was already thinking that's what the case would be designed to hold.
@@ActionRetro lol
@@ActionRetro I have a 2015 11inch MacBook Air. 🤣
Honestly I love those 11 inch MBAs
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE IMAGE!!!
You're welcome, let me know if you try it out!
@@ActionRetro I did on my 3b+ and it ran HORRIBLY it barely loaded and even when it did it crashed when I dragged a window. Also sound diddn't work for some reason.
@@dialupdave6276 try putting the sd card in your PC and commenting out the overclock options in /boot/config.txt - the 3b+ usually can't handle overclocking from what i understand
@@ActionRetro I attempted this as well and disabling it still didn't improve load/run times. Just another nudge to upgrade to pi4?
@@SatanicMac i think so 😂
to the guy who made that case: "Shut up and take my money!" Also the fan has a blue LED in it. I guessed at 7:24.
I second this ;) Would totally buy one :)
Agreed. 😩 I want one so bad. And he's posted the design docs, but I don't have a 3D printer. 😭
I would love to buy this, my 3d printer isn't big or accurate enough!!
Thanks KOSMOS1701A, im happy that you like the design ^^ it took forever to design the curved "handles" and locking mechanism
@@Rune2650 Amazing Work :) If you ever get brave enough, I'm sure it would sell like fire ;) I know I would buy a few :)
Brings a new meaning to 'Mac Mini' 😂
Introducing the new Mac Micro
(Granted: I don't think it's TOO much smaller than a Mini, but still)
@@BrightSpark *has flashbacks to the Mactini*
Actually yes. Sure TheC64-Mini and all that have come the last few years and stuff.... But Apple were in a sence, the first ones. Just, they did not do replicas as mini editions. So in a way yes, and in a way no. Depends on how you look at the words.
Mac Nano
@@macinjosh2223 just one, simple button
We're one step closer to having mini iBook Clamshells.
Mini? We need life sized modern spec ones!
@@laurensnieuwland4657 I agree and in the same colours. Indigo is my favourite.
We need modern replicas of the apple newton running iOS. but sadly, this is impossible.
@@Blubbstock nope, it's quite possible to 3d print/machine a housing for loose iphone parts. It might not match completely, but it would kinda work.
Yes I always wanted one. Even the ones that had the pen
Dude, this is awesome :D im glad you like the design, i spend a lot of time getting the curved "handles" and the opening to be like the real PowerMac G3
It's so good man! Thanks for making it!!
@@ActionRetro thanks, and you´re welcome ^^
Now if only we could build a case that turns this little LCD into a blueberry Apple Studio Display 🤔
Morning, can you build me one of these?
think you'd be willing to post the 3d files so we can print this design at home?
That case is awesome! The use of rubber bands in place of springs is very creative. Yes, it's rubber which will break down eventually, but still! It just needs a tiny internal ZIP drive (COUGH COUGH SD CARD reader...)
i did this on purpese when i designed the case, since i thought, that not everyone might have acces to springs, but rubberbands are everywhere
You can buy durable EPDM synthetic rubber bands, and where suitable length/diameter O-rings can replace bands use that even higher end but cheap option and with some color choice.
Okay, now I am curious how much better my Pi 4 will perform with this image!
Oh nice let me know how it does!
@@ActionRetro I just gave it a quick test, unfortunately it seems to hang shortly after the initial fake Happy Mac, and gets stuck in a terminal window. I didn't have the time to do any troubleshooting myself yet, and I didn't memorize the error message, but I will return to it when I have the time, and hopefully provide some more useful info.
@@BrightSpark I had to change the overclock and voltage settings in the config, but it'll run about the same as it does on the Pi 3.
We need a G4 Mac reproduction motherboard, cool fact: someone on the 68KMLA forums is already developing a Mac SE motherboard. He’s trying to reverse engineer it and he’s gotten pretty close actually.
Woah, that’s wild! What does it involve?
O would be cool a Raspberry PI CM4 board for example that fits a G4 case
@@MaxOakland He has a few videos but they're unlisted, I'll try to post them in some time
MacSEReloaded is what his project name is? Right now he got some wonky checkerboard or something?
Actually it seems someone (a company called Bomarc Services) reverse-engineered quite a few Macs way back in the 90s and now all the schematics are available online.
Never mind, I found that thread! He's doing an SE board, and only the board itself in order to save broken SEs, mainly boards that have battery damage. The board has quite a few custom chips that have to be harvested from an existing board, so no new SEs to come anytime soon.
The thread is in the "Hacks & Development" section and it's called "Reverse Engineering the Macintosh SE PCB & Custom Chips for 1:1 reproduction".
This is really good ! I don't know who impresses me the most - the "Craft Dude" who did the case - and he has done many other projects at the Thingverse - or what you've done to make the "RaspIntosh" work. Well done both ! And kudos to Taylor !
"All of Mac Yak hates the puck mouse", dang, doing Jay dirty there, given he's the number one Puck Connoisseur! :P
🤣🤣🤣
I laughed when i saw that it looks soo cool
Haha thanks!!
Just a heads up to anyone wanting to print the STL file, there's almost no tolerances to interconnect each components. There's also a lot of components to print. You'll a bit of sanding (or scaling) of parts to do to make it all fit together. My Dremel is getting a good workout from this project!
I'll have to try that at work! I've been wanting some kind of classic Mac emulation for years, so I can show kids Mouse Intro and all that cool stuff! Thanks for giving us the image file!
Simply amazing, as always!! Loved it!!
This is amazing, thank you for the image as well. I'm going to try this out myself!
This is fantastic! Thank you for posting this!
The only thing missing is a clear case for the display. Maybe can be produced using vacuum forming method
It's amazing how much graphics acceleration makes a difference. Love your videos!
Totally awesome 🤩. Well done.
What an adorable little thing!
That is brilliant all around!!
That just realy neat and cute. Awesome idea and great video
That print is crazy good holy cow
I need to see this with a pi 4 what a great project. Great vid as always.
Hah! I JUST found the STL files for this the other day. 😂 I’ll keep this video in mind when I decide to finally do something with it. Thanks, man! ✌🏽
This was so rad! I need a mini g3 tower now! Sooo cool
That case is so cool, being 3D printed is even more cool.
I don't know how I did it, but somehow ended up at your archive for your modified OS, and completely missed this video. This is absolutely FANTASTIC!!!!! I'm still experimenting with your OS tweak, hopefully I can get it working for the PowerBook modification that I hope to get out this weekend. Once again, a great video!!!
Oh nice, looking forward to it!
what a incredible build !That would be a cool addition to go with my PowerMac G3.....
Wow... This video great... Thanks for the insight and upload...
I would love to buy one of those little cases!
Awesome gunna print this off thanks
I am not a MAC person but I have to say that's wicked cool. There is something about putting a Pi in a custom case and having it emulate what the case represents. I did download the files and will get around to printing a MAC Case although it going to take a long long long time to print one of those puppies.
Your channel is truly incredible.
Thanks Jeff!!
This is so cool. Always loved that case design, and the blue and white colors of the G3 version in particular. Very nice how you got it to boot straight into OS 9 with no intervention. Makes me wish my Dual 450 G4 still worked. I was always impressed with how responsive and usable those old dual processor Macs were, even a decade later. Systems these days are so hilariously powerful yet feel bogged down all the time thanks to bloated, poorly optimized software. Early versions of OS X were just so futuristic feeling back in the day, and such an improvement over classic Mac OS in virtually every way. Great video, and a very well executed mini G3.
It's so cute!
That is SO cool!
Great video! Very impressive, seamless experience!
I tried to run Mac OS X for PPC on a modern Intel Core i5 laptop, and it was just as slow as on RPi. I suppose this is because QEMU cannot provide hardware acceleration for Mac OS X interface, due to which it has to use software rendering of the interface - which is not going to be fast even on a Core i9 :)
One suggestion: have you tried to use Sheepshaver instead of Qemu? It can only emulate Mac OS 9, but it seems to be doing it quite a bit faster than QEMU.
ok, I am so gonna print one of those cases.. that's awesome
This is so cool !! Really want to build a Macintosh Classic.
it would be really cool if you put a mainboard from a macmini in this case and have a real mini Powermac
Nice idea!
This is so cool!
That’s really really cool.
This is super cool. It will probably run a lot better on a newer Pi too.
It would also be pretty cool to do something like this with a Mac Mini G4 logicboard...
I’d be curious to see the performance on a Rasp Pi 4. I have a 3B laying around and am considering using your disk image. I was literally looking for an image like this. Thanks for your hard work
Damn, this is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a looong time!
It's GREAT!!!. I hope the G3 case fits for STX board.
I'm looking for the STX case like this.
This is AMAZING! Any thoughts of building an OS9 image for RasberryPi 4? I would contribute money to the efforts.
Thanks Steven! The linked SD image should work on a Pi 4 with no issues! In fact, it should be way faster!
This is really cool! Some well-intentioned constructive feedback: rubber bands degrade over time, lose their elasticity, and eventually break down into a sticky mess. Small springs, though harder to implement, will last forever. Also, it's been shown that acetone vapor baths can smooth the striations from 3D printing. This also leaves some shine to the plastic, which IIRC, was present on the actual case. Again, I think this is awesome and could truly be a well-received early prototype of a retail product, even (if licensing could be obtained).
Oh thanks for those suggestions! Springs are such a good idea!
Hey Thalamus, the reason i designed it with rubberbands, was to simplefy the construction of it, since more or less everyone has acces to them, compared to springs, but i dont think it might be imposible for me, to redesign the mechanism, to use springs instead ^^
I printed a g5 case and stuck a raspberry pi 4 in it, also stuck a case fan if you could say that, the slider to remove the pi works as an air oath towards the front vent which is pretty cool.
Downloading the image now!
That’s really cool.
Totally awesome.
that is very slick, i kind of wonder what sort of performance a pi4/8gb model would give in os10
Sweet! Love it. 😃
Soooo sweet and cute!!
Best Pi case ever! If the creator decides to take orders I will buy one today!
I would love a 3d printed Bondiblue iMac. I miss those so much.
Definitely gives me a reason to buy a raspberry pi now though. Might even become my daily use pc. Haha. Especially with Michael MJD just posting a video recently on his channel about the old net content, including a proxy that can be set so you can browse the web like back in the G3s day. 😁
Dude. DUDE. D U D E.
I'm back to 2000 when I was working in a print shop. FINALLY I can put my MacOS sound themes, and run QuarkXPress again.
This is so cool
I'm glad you have the patience to setup QEMU, because I honestly have no patience for it.
Maybe if it had a worthwhile Windows frontend then I'd use it more...
Man thats pretty neat.
Oh man! I've been making a Mini Mac Plus with a RPI 3+!! This couldnt have come at a better time!
Gonna snag your image and switch out the ppc emulation with 68K! Thank you so much!
Oh woah, I'd love to see it when it's done!
@@ActionRetro Absolutely! I'll post some pictures when its ready! :D
@@ActionRetro Hey So i cannot seem to get that image to boot. Just sits at the happy mac forever :( Any ideas?
fixed it. win32diskimager was not writing the image correctly. BalenaEtcher works!
@@ale6242 Woohoo!
Finding the best cheap(ish) SBC for a Mac emulator would be a great project. Have you tried it with the Pi4?
Beautiful, I want one too...
Man that is awesome! Would be cool to reprint the access panel so it could fit a 1st gen PowerPC G4 MacMini motherboard. Then it would really be a PowerMac!
Great project ! You have to add a G3 logo on the sides
I'd get a printer just for this... making me think now... also that is amazing work
This is super cute. I'm extremely fond of that case print, it came out beautiful! Though I can't help but feel a little cheated that it's a Pi, and not some crazy "Honey I shrunk a real G3 into here" :(
this is so great
I’d buy that! Would love a G4. Painted mine black and white back in the day
I love the Raspintosh name!!!
Wow this mini monitor is so cool lol
I've been wanting to play around with MacOS 9 for years now, last time I had a mac was 2005, the last G4 Powerbook but I never bothered with OS9 at the time. Are there many limitations to running emulated on the Pi? What is the performance comparable to on the PI3b?
Can I suggest Twister OS? it's a native Raspbian-based distro of Linux, but it has a ton of skins, including one for Mac OS. Could make it way more usable.
Noctua fan - problem solved. Sloves this setup -- i want one!
Cool project to make a old Mac for those who don't have it and cannot afford it. Maybe there's a better distro for this so can run better. Or something like with batocera that's just for the task need. I love this project. I wish I had so many raspberry pies, I just have old x86 pc
What a beautiful little case. The level of detail and ingenuity behind it is top notch. Whilst it wouldn't be 'period correct' the RasPi is capable of emulating the 68K Macs at real 68K speeds using Basilisk 2 and Mini Vmac. It would certainly be much more usable than PPC emulation under Qemu. 🙂
Yeah and from what I know you could get nearly the same experience. (I did not grow up with macs so it's possible I'm wrong here.) You couldn't get system 9 but you can get system 8.
I wonder if there’s enough room in there to fit the innards of an M1 Mac mini.
the M1 Mac mini´s motherboard is really small, so it should, or you can just upscale the case design, but i designed it to use fillement for the hinge, thats the only real problem that might occure
So cool. Very impressive. I’d consider doing it to run Talking Moose and Baby Smash!
Light up G3 (Mini) tower. Jay will be proud of you!
🤣
If this was mass-produced and sold, i would buy it right away, this is cool
A later Power Mac G4 running Mac OS 9 is probably one of the best performing and easiest to setup retro gaming machines. I do have a Windows 98 rig but it was a huge pain to set up without all kinds of errors and other crap. Compare that to the Mac, which was just install Mac OS, install games, run games and have fun.
I've always wanted a B&W PowerMac G3
Hey retro, I LOVE that mini monitor case and stand, did you 3d print? If not do you have link to where you bought it, or if you did 3d print it, do you have the github or thingiverse or alike and the link to where I can download the files? I love the video and Macintosh g3/g4 case, keep up your great work Retro, I love what youre doing.
Awesome!
That is awesome
This is really neat. How about a miniature Apple IIgs setup…now THAT would be wicked!
You might want to put a flyback diode on the fan circuit. When those fans stop spinning on power down, they'll throw power back onto the line when the magnetic field on the coils of those fans collapses, causing a sudden spike that stresses the power circuitry of the Pi. It's okay for a while, but it does wear it down overall.
oh thanks!
I'm sure you could edit the 3d model to support something like the NUC, and then you could actually power a macintosh competently. not a bad attempt though.
Back in the day all fans were really whiny so this is perfect.
Might be off-topic but I'll try anyway. Recently I bought an iMac G3 (summer 2001 edition, indigo blue). The included Pro Keyboard, however, has some deformed keys that are totally unusable and the rear sticker is damaged. Can you suggest me a specific website to find replacement parts? Thanks in advance
I'm sure the Next Generation Raspberry Pi 5 will have a lot better QEMU performance. When that comes out you should definitely give it a try because this project is super cool.
I'll have to try and print this. I also have a Raspberry Pi or two lying around unused. I think there are some miniature mice and keyboards that might pair well with this.
Nice! I'd love to find some suitably mini peripherals for this!
I love this mini powermac that I would like to have the STL files for this project and your sd card image but with OSX 10.1 puma.
how cuteeee!
Man sometimes I'm tempted to get a pixel book since it's closer to a 4:3 screen. Premium laptops that had a 4:3 display just felt so professional for some reason. That 12" PowerBook there is amazing, I would love to get a hold of another one.