Zen Master Eido Roshi answers the question, 'Does God exist?'
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Eloise's full interview with Zen Master Eido Roshi at www.soulsessions.co
Zen Master Eido Roshi was the first person to introduce Zen Buddhism to New York, Manhattan, during the 1960s. Today he is 80+ years old and talks to Soul Sessions founder Eloise about Buddhist philosophy, karma, how to heal our emotional pains and more.
A Zen Buddhist went to a Christian Church. One Christian, taking the opportunity to convert the visitor, approached him and began preaching to his face. "Embrace Jesus or you'll face eternal damnation!" and "Look at your sins! It doesn't matter if you stole an apple or committed murder, it is the same in God's eyes!" The Zen Buddhist had only one response: "Sod off". After the ceremony, another Christian approached the Zen Buddhist and as he embraced him, began to offer a prayer: "Open your heart to the Lord! Take up your cross and follow Him...." Although not changing his religion per se, the Zen Buddhist offered sincere thanks. The following week, the Zen Buddhist returned to the Church and was approached by the first Christian. "Last week, when that other Christian showed you Jesus, you thanked him. And yet when I showed you Jesus, you told me to 'sod off!' Why?" The Zen Buddhist replied: "Because when he showed me Jesus, he never got in the way of God. But when you showed me Jesus, you stood in my way"
@@mydreamsarecomingtrue well....
There are so many souls that are living in strife.
@@petermihacerar1137, And thou art Peter, Peace be with you.
He is converted to protestantism lmao
Why did a Zen Buddhist even go to church in the first place?
@@petermihacerar1137 There are souls living in strife because of direct suffering caused by the sexual predator and unrepentant sociopath interviewed here.
The Roshi hits the non-dual nail on the head, our languages always prevent distance us.
You mean the sex offender hit the nail on the head, don't you? Don't call him a Roshi.
Is there always a flute playing in Buddhism?
Buddhist answer: No flute. Just your mind hearing the flute.
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Yes, any time you speak or think of Buddha, a flute starts to play spontaneously
And in South America, it's a Pan Flute.
You have unlock it like in a video game.
Level 20 above : flute
Level 50 above : gong
Level 100: ultra instinct
People your destiny is up to you as soon as you realize that you must live in the moment.
@Seán White there is no past there is no future ,the moment is now.
My destiny is up to me but I must also do a particular thing? Lol 😂
Fo shoooo
@@Masterhughesproductions stop narrowing what you have been given by nature
Duration theory of Henry bergeson explain the moment
Don't put a name to it. you are in it, it is in you, you are part of it ,it is a part of you, realize it because it realizes you, it is all that is, the thing to understand is that we don't understand
eyeofasoul
"The tao that can be named is not the eternal toa" -Lao tzu
eyeofasoul yep the unamed one is you and you the one. be
LOL, so full of yourself. Do you realize you sound like a conceited condescending fool ?
surrender to whats happening now. 'it is' . 'you are' . be
@t f who /what the fuck is greavsie? I looked it up and it not an English Word.
Well answered. From a Theravada Buddhist. Namo Buddhaya.
What a thoughtful answer! This really brought me some kind of new perspective on the words "dharma" and "dualism", thank you!
You have to welcome yourself of your inner being, since it can see with eyes wide closed.
the way the books are stacked is so zen ! haha
I noticed that too. Tho zen doesn't rely on books so they just stacked up like that.
Exactly like my book piles lol - made me feel better about my stacks.
Robert Epstein now you can just say that your books are staked properly according to Zen Lol
Yes, that is a relief. :)
Yes, I sense a good sense of humour in that :)
Om ! Thank you for this wonderful interview of the Blessed Zen Master Eido Roshi. May all beings be happy and healthy! :-)
I like how he wanted to say "greater than us" and then realized that would be misleading in buddhistic context and changed it to just "great"
Its quite soothing to just listen to him.
Unfortunately what this account failed to tell you is this man is a notorious sexual predator who has been kicked out of his zen community for faking concern for people that came to him to practice Zen and then sexually exploiting and abusing them. He's a pariah in the Zen world but boy does he sound convincing when presented as a spiritual teacher to a clueless audience full of people who don't know the truth. Google Eido Shimano and you'll hear the truth.
He explained the whole thing in one line➖ 〰 and cleared the whole confusion. That's an impossible task 🙏🙏🙏just superb 👌👌
Oh come on, stop idolizing forms of what you are in truth now :P
@@victornilsson2816 oh just shut the fuck up you moron. You think you know more than the monk giving the interview? What is your problem? Stay in your limits. Fuck off from my comment box. Oh come on, stop writing some meaningless English words, if you don't understood what he says
that's the best interview with a Zen master in English I've ever seen.
What he actually is saying is that if by God you mean an infinite X that can't be grasped by our finite minds then God absoltely exists.
If however by God you mean an image in your mind about God, then it does not exist.
Thanks for the explanation. really helped
Desert Fathers like Evagrius Ponticus said hundreds of years before Zen arrived in Japan: "God cannot be grasped by the mind. If he could be grasped,he wouldn't be God".
No, he absolutely did not say this.
This is your wanting, your attachment to what you would like to hear. If you want to understand something new, you must stop saying "I already know."
@@starfishsystems Is it right to use Buddhist terminology in assumptive way when you haven't asked him before what he meant by his statement? He could've simply misunderstood the monk.
Jigme Lingpa said, "The moment we open our mouths, its confusion." So speaking in dualistic terms is a problem in buddhism. Making assertions leaves one open to refutation.
I learned this the hard way as a Christian trying to defend my beliefs. There's always another perspective. But trying to encompass it all seem futile too. Remaining silent in the face of it all seems doable. Taking each moment. Accomplishing small tasks as they appear before me. Taking life very simply. Very lightly.
What a wise man 🙇
There is none wise but God
Albert Einstein said that he knows two things are infinite, universe and human stupidity and he said he wasn't sure about the universe. What we create in our minds is amzing ofcourse but I like the explanation of Eido Roshi we always think something greater than ourseves and we don't see that we are great. When Buddha was asked such questions he most of the time remaind quite. Some of his answers were that asking such questions were not helpful to us as we only speculate on something. Buddha never said God doesn't exist and he never said he does he just said it doesn't help our condition. You got to love Buddha. :)
We do love Buddha White Lotus. We're dedicating a whole live session to exploring Buddhist dharma this Sunday in Sydney. Are you in town? You can check it out here: soulsessions.org/free/upcoming.php#post168
Yes...after a while, it makes us feel inferior to life itself to answer questions of a God. It's hard to disclaim the idea that the universe was made, and we are to, but to subject our thoughts to someone creating a universe, only to have us as inferiors would be slave-minded thinking.
If it were true, and a discovery of such, then we could say by understanding it, we've escaped our slave minds and therefor, we are at a level of godly understanding.
In each case, God is only what we choose to create it is.
+Luke McCallum I was watching a move today from 1975 and the thought arose of a koan "where were you before you were born?" I just laid a trap for my self LOL.
Trouble is Buddha wouldn't wish for you to love him! But I know why we do... It's because we still haven't turned off the internal chatter
I wrote a piece of music called Koan Ahead... It's on my channel
Duelistic thinking is so strong in western culture as he explained it's a preconceived idea that bigger is better, you wouldn't believe once u attempt to end your own dualistic way of thinking how much it influences you and how many people live there lives in this warfare state of 1 opposite is better then the other.
Please put the whole sessions up here please, it might encourage more people to sign up for your blog, whereas being able to watch them only by signing up discourages me, love
Hi Nina, you can watch the whole session in our video library at www.soulsessions.org over here:
soulsessions.org/free/singleVid.php?id=146
Hope you enjoy it! There are many other interviews and wisdoms to enjoy as well xx
I'm a Christian, but this guy is a sincere man of truth.
Absolutely Perfect without the first 4 words of your statement.
In the novel Shogun Hawthorne witnessed Japanese warriors execute a man without any remorse. It dawned on Hawthorne that the Japanese had no concept of sin. I asked my Japanese mother about this and she said it was true. My mother, Yasuko, was a Christian but she did make that admission.
I wish that some Christians had higher standars of what is the truth. This man just denied the existence of a Creator and a Christian called him truthful.
@@laudante24 You are correct.
I think you can be a Christian while training Buddhism. It's less a religion than a training system for mental health I think. Zazen is a great practice.
You can check the validity of his supreme answer by how his books are pilled up. Only a true master can create such an engeneeringly marvelous master piece!
*Tips fedora*
Only one Supreme. It is not man.
Logical, eloquent, and succinct.
Il raconte quoi?
Very intelligent and thoughtful answer as to why Zen Buddhism doesn't necessarily affirm an existence in a creator god.
Marvellous!
Almost everyone, everywhere is so stuck on the Christian concept of God and either fully embraces it or totally rejects. It just shows that even Buddhism is only a small part of consciousness, because even it's devout adherents can't seem to understand what it means to be incomprehensible. It also can't explain how there are universal laws that are immutable. We are not gods, and there is a Reality that expresses itself with laws that we are subject to but not totally aware of.
I don't think l can live without you Susan
well, that was delightful.
I LIKE that run everything
Tnank you for posting this wonderful videos with Eido Roshi. Is it possible to post the full interview again? I know it was uploaded some time ago. Thank you!!
I love the book piles in the backround
Them books stacked high.
When it rains, the streets get wet...
*MASTER ROSHI!!!*
I like how the books are stacked
Very enjoyable
background music is stupid. let the man speak without distractions.
Olivia L idiotic music. Jackass producers
What’s music ?
GODBLESS YOU
Great !
His spirit is so beautiful. Thank you for this interview- so glad I found your channel. Blessings to both of you!
That bookshelf in the background though... that's some jenga skills!
There was an American movie called "Lost in translation" which was one of my least fav ever. However, the title is so true. For starters...I believe in truth that the concept of "God" in impossible to define as the UNGER translation of the Tao The Ching begins...and I paraphrase...There is the Tao and there is the definition of the Tao. I have some experience w Catholicism, the Vedic tradition and Zen. If one goes back to the original teachings...say of Christ and the Church...I believe that all agree w the definition of what we as Westerners name as God...yet our definition is the most limited of all that I know especially that God is a male. From my knowledge...what we call God is beyond gender and beyond our human attributes, but these are best we can do using language. Better to experience the infinite through meditation and observation and experience, This is the best I can offer approaching the midnight hour.
Respect.
I haven't been a Christian in about 30 years. I have gone from atheism to Buddhism to Vedanta to agnosticism, but I feel that Zen is my true home.
An INTJ is not going to make a move until they have already dominated the board. Just another one of the beautiful things about them😍
Anyone can be an INTJ if they practice those attitudes, fixed personality types are a misconception
Are we just making random statements that have nothing to do with the video?
Miss you Eido!
I'm still stuck on the sound of one hand clapping.
Wtf..Lol
It is when the master smacks you around the head for asking silly questions... or thinking too much😊
Amon Ra because that’s the problem they’re getting at to stop putting a meaning to each and every individual thing in life.
The purpose of life is to live that is all nothing else you’ve already beaten the odds of even being alive right now
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Take your hand
Smash it to your face
Become a Buddha
son point de vue est très intéressant
This is an unanswered question. Therefore,whether or not God exists should not matter.
background song?
He explained the unexplainable quite well.
You do it ALL for me
Master Roshi!!!
RIP Master Roshi
How can I find the song ? It says it in the description but I cant copy it or know how to translate it
When you think of the dharma you will hear the song, but your dog won't.
This guy's fuckin fantastic.
He no longer teachers Zen and was forced to forfeit his title due to multiple sexual misconduct cases. Apparently he was acting inappropriately with female students during zazen. I do not say this to speak ill of him. Just stating his current status.
We are God living a human experience
None of us can create The Big Bang like the real God
But I get what you're saying
I've experienced "God," and it has nothing to do with thoughts. "God" cannot be understood by the mind. In "God's" presence there is no interpretation by the mind of "what is." Everything just "is." This is why it feels more real because it's not interpreting sense perception, or filtering reality through what we expect to see based on categorical thinking. Like seeing a "clock" as a function of displaying time, without realizing everything else about the clock, its shape, color, etc.
For that reason I'm an agnostic theist. I know that "God" exists but I recognize this cannot be understood by the mind, except in a way that makes it smaller.
It also showed me that ultimately, true understanding of "all that is" does NOT come from the mind. It does not come from science or logic. It comes from our connection to "God," like our conscience or a form of intuition, that is like a still, silent voice.
The mind can only conceive of and understand what it knows, or is known. Consciousness however can explore the _unknown_ without requiring explanation to appreciate. The evolution of consciousness is how we will explore the unknown possibilities of existence. (And BTW, it is for this reason why most intelligent life in the universe does not try to make contact on a global scale on Earth. They travel space and time through consciousness, and communicate only to those who are sufficient consciousness to receive them.)
Good video
A real Master Roshi
I want this book shelves
Convoluted thoughts from the "Master"!
For the liberation of all sentient beings
Hmmm...I've wondered about this, and now I know. I kinda figured that's where they were coming from. I don't agree, but that doesn't matter. I just needed to understand, and now I do.
nice
Now go back and turn on the subtitles
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I'm involved and am sending you those thoughts vibes and involved seriously stuff
God exists to those who say so & not to those who say he doesn't - depends on experience - all things never existed before their creation/arising then cease to exist soon enough afterwards - we can only try to examine evidence.
Perspicacious emptiness. ^^
such a peaceful and serene person!
The bible also refers to God being in a still, small voice. I think that accords with the zen master's idea.
"Be still and know that I am GOD." The answer right there. GOD is in us, the breath of life .,God is outside us as well. GOD is everything, all of it. GOD exists, go inside and connect. It's all in there, so simple. Simple.
Except for the rest of Bible where yahwei is anything but zen
This master is scratching the surface of non duality. He mentions it but most who watch this won't understand because non duality just isn't discussed in wide circles, especially not in the West although neuroscience and non duality are converging in many scientific communities. I thought he was off the rails until 1:55. At 1:55 he ties his prior comments into a fundamental concept in non duality and it makes complete sense.... if you have some background with non duality. If you don't all you hear is accented yammering. Like someone explaining long division to a five year old.
Would it be possible to cut out the distracting background music - it makes this softly spoken man terribly hard to hear for those with certain hearing difficulties, and is surely quite unnecessary as an accompaniment to a serious conversation. Thanks!
Hear, hear. It's not an episode of 'Kung Fu'. Besides, music is for listening to mindfully and fully, not merely for 'hearing' in the background. You wouldn't play a track of someone speaking French over the top of this, surely?
No
Shikantaza : if you are distracted or bothered the answer to why is much closer....not external
@@robertdillon9989 Interesting response. Why so curt, I wonder? Is this your usual manner of responding to enquiries about disability access?
That's me playing the flute, if you dont like my music you aren't enlightened dude frig off
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Buddha said: pile your books on top of each other. Then have tea.
Great omnipotent designer
Adi-Buddha is a term for the omnipotent God in Buddhism. This title came from the Aisvarika tradition of Mahayana in Nepal, which is spread through Bengal, and became also known in Java. Aisvarika is the term for the disciples of theist view in Buddhism.
I'm going to call him Master Roshi
How does he take a book down without the whole pile falling???? Mind....blown.
Yeah!
Believing sucks...knowing is breathtaking...
The Zen Master doesn't need a watch because the time is always now.
Cool book towers.
Eido covers a lot of ground here...:-)))
Yes!
I never thought that bigger is better. I see purity and magic in little things too. I do not think one can be better than other. Its about who is more connected to the truth, the true reality and purity which is not roiled with wrong creation or creating wrong things - something that does not go in sync with nature. In our reality on our earth. If talking about God. We are the god. We are the blood without a practiced ability to see or hear through each other. We are the life itself, and life is God.
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
-AND A GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
FULLY ENLIGHTENED!!!!!!!
enlightened answer ahaha
The train goes thru the mountains.
The wife’s rusty sheriffs badge smells like cat food of the fish variety.
Kind Master, tall book stacks!
Need you
So basically hes saying that just because something is greater it doesn't mean its more powerful, its just greater in a spiritual sense.. that's pretty neat
What he is saying is that our language is built around dualism which is an illusion. There is no such dualism in reality. Words are just concepts that are used to describe by division. This is not what reality is. Reality is not divisible. Saying the universe is spiritual is a concept. Saying the universe is material is a concept. It is our language that blinds us from the truth by forcing to see the world as "seperate things" Who you are and what you are is one being or one suchness. That is what "God" is and that is what "you" are. Once you realize this you will realize that even saying that is saying too much. That is why Zen masters will give you a funny look, laugh, smile, and wink if you ask such a question. He will then ask you; Who is it that is asking if God exists? ;)
Great Omnipotent Designer
Together
The music in the background is embarrassing. Way to make a man into a purchasable product.
hahaha
Now I see it like you do. Thanks for making my existence just a little more cynical and hopeless.
God must be keeping them books up
My answer „Tell me how you define god and I‘ll answer no“.
Here are 3 examples
1. contentment with what you have
2.lack of desire for more
3. and stillness, few words
For certain most muslims do not practice such I am speaking of the essentials found in the religion from Quran and the sunnah.
I heard the great Lakota Indian American activist Russell Means say in an interview that, i'm trying to remember now, he said that the English language is very unexpressive and dishonest, something to that effect.
You do it for me
The truth is in the middle. God is both outside and inside of us. Everywhere and everyone. Non-dual. There is no separation between god and creation. Everything that is made by something in the universe must also be OF that said thing. As above, so below. As within, so without- as the great hermitic teachings of Hermes Trismegistus teaches us.
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Hang on