I guarantee one of these CZcamsrs are gonna come out with a volume knob plug-in and charge $100. They'll tell you it's better than your DAW's level adjustment. Put it on every track for that shine.
for real a lot of these can be done in fl patcher. a lot of these one off plugins feel just like a standalone version of a fl studio patcher preset. i get different plugins use different algorithms but that doesn't mean that much when the algorithm is the DEVS personal preference. I find i have more creative freedom when i explore my own preference than be stuck with these one off plugins. i only make an exception if i really like the sound to the one off plugins like drums that knock.
if you want to see what all the knobs do on backmask by the way you just gotta hit the “?” Symbol at the bottom of the plug-in and it will label everything. They make it kinda obscure on purpose and even jab at you a little bit if you use the button lol but it’s a lot easier to use when you know what everything’s doing
I think it would be sick if he added some sequencing options to the plug-in so it’s not so bare-bones. Like the whole idea with the flux mode is that it alternates between a “normal sample” and a “backwards sample”. What would be really cool is if he made some sort of sequencer with this functionality. Maybe like 4, 8, or 16 steps, and each step can be either forward or backward. Maybe you can also change the pitch of the “sample” (octave up or down) for each step or make some of the steps have a shorter loop length on the left or right. This would be a little bit more in depth then what this plug-ins vibe is, but I think it would bring it to a point where it’s actually doing some thing kind of new.
Big that you showed off Freakshow Industries. Since I discovered them I love their approach to the scene and the market, tho their plugins are really weird but I love the experimental aspect of them. Also there's a new distortion coming out soon
Thank you for the comparison and the honest review. All I wanted was the reverse utility and I'll do the rest of the processing from there (with all the Black Friday ish) I have. LOL
This looks like a great plugin for beginners compared to Backmask, I wouldn't mind paying the extra money for Retrograde. The only thing I would hope for in a update to Retrograde is some parameter info when you hover over options, and some saturation with highpass options, but developing a plugin is tricky so I can't really say anything.
I mean, I have to take a look at Baskmask a bit more to really say for sure, but Retrograde just seems a bit more convenient; most of the third-party plugins out there can be replicated in one way or another, but where the 3rd party plugins really shine is being faster/more convenient to use. I think you can probably get a faster result out of Retrograde then backmask, while also taming the frequency range of the reversed signal vs adding a separate filter/EQ when using backmask. It may not be considered friction to use backmask, but it seems like it to me if the goal is to have a faster workflow
Backmask has more rhythmic and pitch options, but absolutely no ease of use. Retrograde is convenient but is lacking in features beyond the basic reversal.
Backmask is no harder to use than retrograde as long as you click the ? Button. So many more options. The only thing retrograde has on it is the panning feature but who doesnt own that free cableguys autopan?
I think he should have a knob that goes to 11.....and able to split the audio to RIGHT and left .and independently affect those channels in time and pitch.
yeah click the question mark at the bottom. Backmask + any autopan that syncs to tempo, add the preset names from valhalla's Super Massive and you got this!
You didn't even toggle the sync stuff? You mentioned it early but didn't even think of unsyncing? I don't think you did the plugin justice by not going through everything
Doesnt really sound like a feature that will save the plugin, and more often than not you'll want to keep the sound the same on left and right. It still lacks features that backmask has and it's more expensive than it. I think the 5/10 is an appropriate score. Also 5/10 means it is decent, it's not a bad score it just isnt above average especially when theres a cheaper more fleshed out version of the plugin out there.
I think Simon would have a bunch of plugin ideas. However, the one he went with to develop was kind of lame. It's a problem that's already been solved and it doesn't bring anything new to the way it's done.
TBH. I think I am missing or you are missing the point the only purpose from retrograde is to cut the reverse the EXACT same timing when the orginal for example chord is playing , Backmask cuts only the beginning even on same settings as retrograde so in backmask i still have to edit the timings correctly by mysel opposit in retrograde which is developed to do exactly this for me...or am i bugging ?
All this convinced me is to get freakshow plugins, they seem so fun and weird. Also, am I the only one who thinks Retrograde looks really bad? So bland, the colours are just not inspired at all. This might be a minor detail, but I find myself going back to plugins I think look nice, for example all the Baby Audio plugins look really good and clean imo, which is also important, I do not want any visuals to hinder my workflow. But, yeah, some nice galaxy background would have been great, something inspired by Portal for example. This just looks like a stock FL plug-in and since I am not an FL user and have no connection to these colour schemes...that is not great
@@IncyzionEdits Coincidentally, most of the really great plug-ins that are universally liked (e.g. FabFilter Pro-Q 3 or Serum) have really good and nice UI, that is extremely easy to intuitively understand. Obviously it is mostly about sound, but usability is really important and a clean, simple, and a nice interface just helps with that. One of the reasons why Portal and Thermal are so well beloved. But maybe it's different for you, maybe you like plug-ins that look ugly and make you miserable while producing.
The problem here is you used Retrograde wrong you had the MIX at 100% and that kinda defeats the purpose of it. You are supposed to use it to blend the reverse sound with the dry sound
I guarantee one of these CZcamsrs are gonna come out with a volume knob plug-in and charge $100. They'll tell you it's better than your DAW's level adjustment. Put it on every track for that shine.
$30 aint bad, you can tell Simon is in the right place. This is a great review though.
i got an idea, totally unrelated!
for real a lot of these can be done in fl patcher. a lot of these one off plugins feel just like a standalone version of a fl studio patcher preset. i get different plugins use different algorithms but that doesn't mean that much when the algorithm is the DEVS personal preference. I find i have more creative freedom when i explore my own preference than be stuck with these one off plugins.
i only make an exception if i really like the sound to the one off plugins like drums that knock.
@@fucksusan.fuckcensorship.874 With these being producers who come up with the plugins, I would imagine many start off as chains or patcher presets.
😂
if you want to see what all the knobs do on backmask by the way you just gotta hit the “?” Symbol at the bottom of the plug-in and it will label everything. They make it kinda obscure on purpose and even jab at you a little bit if you use the button lol but it’s a lot easier to use when you know what everything’s doing
Yep! Most Freakshow plugs operate this way, they want to encourage experimentation which is pretty cool
Thanks for the tip, Now I'm really going to go grab it.
Freakshow is dope. Backmask looks weird but that’s the point.
I agree with that
I think it would be sick if he added some sequencing options to the plug-in so it’s not so bare-bones.
Like the whole idea with the flux mode is that it alternates between a “normal sample” and a “backwards sample”. What would be really cool is if he made some sort of sequencer with this functionality. Maybe like 4, 8, or 16 steps, and each step can be either forward or backward. Maybe you can also change the pitch of the “sample” (octave up or down) for each step or make some of the steps have a shorter loop length on the left or right.
This would be a little bit more in depth then what this plug-ins vibe is, but I think it would bring it to a point where it’s actually doing some thing kind of new.
I like.
Isn't that what effectrix does?
Thanks for putting me on to backmask !! Never heard of it before but it’s really dope
yeah its a dope ass plugin. one of my favorite FX plugins
@@brotherpabl0 and here I was rendering out all my midis and reversing them, this is too dope.
dammit weaves we need a video everyday i come here skimming through the search and when i see no vids from weaver the beaver i have a seizure
i was bummed when i found out his plugin actually costed money and not a super cheap amount for what it does
27$ lol
$27 isn't even a lot
Big that you showed off Freakshow Industries. Since I discovered them I love their approach to the scene and the market, tho their plugins are really weird but I love the experimental aspect of them. Also there's a new distortion coming out soon
I got backmask after this video, so cool looking and sounding, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the comparison and the honest review. All I wanted was the reverse utility and I'll do the rest of the processing from there (with all the Black Friday ish) I have. LOL
You always keep it 100 💯💯⚖
Ohhh I was waiting for this video
Hey man can you do a review on scorch pls i only trust your reviews 🤣
appreciate this fresh perspective man. respect
This looks like a great plugin for beginners compared to Backmask, I wouldn't mind paying the extra money for Retrograde. The only thing I would hope for in a update to Retrograde is some parameter info when you hover over options, and some saturation with highpass options, but developing a plugin is tricky so I can't really say anything.
why saturation 🤣
@@boimesa8190 fine lets go with a creative universal modulator >:)
@@djsusan00 nothing words are still words I guess
@@boimesa8190 you need to watch more of weavers videos to get it.
I mean, I have to take a look at Baskmask a bit more to really say for sure, but Retrograde just seems a bit more convenient; most of the third-party plugins out there can be replicated in one way or another, but where the 3rd party plugins really shine is being faster/more convenient to use. I think you can probably get a faster result out of Retrograde then backmask, while also taming the frequency range of the reversed signal vs adding a separate filter/EQ when using backmask. It may not be considered friction to use backmask, but it seems like it to me if the goal is to have a faster workflow
Backmask has more rhythmic and pitch options, but absolutely no ease of use. Retrograde is convenient but is lacking in features beyond the basic reversal.
Backmask is no harder to use than retrograde as long as you click the ? Button. So many more options. The only thing retrograde has on it is the panning feature but who doesnt own that free cableguys autopan?
I think he should have a knob that goes to 11.....and able to split the audio to RIGHT and left .and independently affect those channels in time and pitch.
yes. that's a dope idea
Thank you, you’ve helped with my decision 🎶
THERES A BUTTON ON BACKMASK THAT CHANGES THE UI TO AN EXPLANATORY VERSION. oops sorry for yelling but backmask is way better
yeah click the question mark at the bottom. Backmask + any autopan that syncs to tempo, add the preset names from valhalla's Super Massive and you got this!
You didn't even toggle the sync stuff? You mentioned it early but didn't even think of unsyncing? I don't think you did the plugin justice by not going through everything
Doesnt really sound like a feature that will save the plugin, and more often than not you'll want to keep the sound the same on left and right. It still lacks features that backmask has and it's more expensive than it. I think the 5/10 is an appropriate score. Also 5/10 means it is decent, it's not a bad score it just isnt above average especially when theres a cheaper more fleshed out version of the plugin out there.
this has potential but is outplayed by competition
I just stole a bunch of plugins thanks to you. Way to go Weaver, hope you're proud
You don’t *uck around. I figured you’d get to this plugin but you pounced on it like COVID.
ayo the plugin just came out what
I think Simon would have a bunch of plugin ideas. However, the one he went with to develop was kind of lame. It's a problem that's already been solved and it doesn't bring anything new to the way it's done.
boosted
I love his drumkits
TBH. I think I am missing or you are missing the point the only purpose from retrograde is to cut the reverse the EXACT same timing when the orginal for example chord is playing , Backmask cuts only the beginning even on same settings as retrograde so in backmask i still have to edit the timings correctly by mysel opposit in retrograde which is developed to do exactly this for me...or am i bugging ?
You're correct, as far as I know.
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for this review. Very well done
Backmask is sick
Now Ima go check out Backmask :D
The Istock background watermark haha I know you did that on purpose
Freakshow Industries unseats Melda Productions by sweeping every “Ugliest” award category:
Ugliest UI, Ugliest Website, Ugliest Promo, Ugliest Plug-in Name.
If you're making trap, hiphop, afrobeat, Retrograde is WAAAAAAY BETTER. Only problem with Retrograde is they're not compatible with M1 & M2 Macs.
Anyone has figured out anyway to contact him?
It won't work when I install it...
nope... i sent an email to they official gmail two days ago but i stil dont got any reply
@@brotherpabl0 same, wtf man. It sucks cuz I normally really like SS, but this is such a big minus..
👌
Getting inspiration from a 25$ plugin for just reversing when I can just reverse the audio myself? I think I'll steal backmask :)
backmask sounds better for me
Could you review a moldy ham sandwich/radio?
Anyone try to get a refund for this plugin? idk why I bought it prob cause $27 didn’t feel like much the day I got it
Phase plant review?
weavvvvvveeeee
i got grossbeat and eq for free when i pirated fl studio
All this convinced me is to get freakshow plugins, they seem so fun and weird.
Also, am I the only one who thinks Retrograde looks really bad?
So bland, the colours are just not inspired at all. This might be a minor detail, but I find myself going back to plugins I think look nice, for example all the Baby Audio plugins look really good and clean imo, which is also important, I do not want any visuals to hinder my workflow.
But, yeah, some nice galaxy background would have been great, something inspired by Portal for example. This just looks like a stock FL plug-in and since I am not an FL user and have no connection to these colour schemes...that is not great
plugins that make your music sound better > plugins that are aesthetically pleasing
@@IncyzionEdits Coincidentally, most of the really great plug-ins that are universally liked (e.g. FabFilter Pro-Q 3 or Serum) have really good and nice UI, that is extremely easy to intuitively understand.
Obviously it is mostly about sound, but usability is really important and a clean, simple, and a nice interface just helps with that. One of the reasons why Portal and Thermal are so well beloved.
But maybe it's different for you, maybe you like plug-ins that look ugly and make you miserable while producing.
@@aerrowqueing I made my comment because your only critique/review was about the looks.
bruh ..
I would literally pay more for Retrograde to not have to look at that Backmask UI lol ew
The problem here is you used Retrograde wrong you had the MIX at 100% and that kinda defeats the purpose of it. You are supposed to use it to blend the reverse sound with the dry sound
The problem here is this plugin is mid