Secretariat - 1973 Man o' War (G1)
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- Secretariat's final start in the Big Apple was the opportunity to try something new. It was a rousing success. He took to the turf like he had been running on it his whole life. Big Red led every step of the way, leading observers, and even jockey Ron Turcotte, wondering if he was maybe even better on the grass.
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Soon as another horse gets close he kicks it in. Beautiful
this is what's called a mercy killing. Who knows how unreal a 4 year old season may have been. His 3rd start in 3 weeks
Can not watch this guy run enough times. He's not even trying his hardest. Count how many times he switches lead. He's pert near skipping to his lou!!!
The power of this horse is astounding. He was barely shown the whip to maintain focus at the 1/16th pole, otherwise he easily pulled away from a darned good champion in Tentam with relative ease. Truly the horse of a lifetime.
It looked like Turcotte was playing with Tentam. He'd let him get up close, then show Secretariat the whip and boom, three lengths clear again.
@@johnhunter2294 No doubt, he knew Red had endless gears if he needed them.
I don’t think secretariat saw a whip at the Preakness or Belmont
@@N.S.56 Not sure about the Preakness if there was very little from Ron Turcot but I’ve never saw whip used on the Belmont
@@N.S.56 Never used the whip when he got beat 4 times.
Every time I see him run I just shake my head and mutter “Jesus.” Then, a lotta the time, I cry. He was stupefying.
Secretariat had an overdrive he kicked into when ever another horse got too close.
Thought that too. A whale of a race by TimTam, but every time his nose got beside Big Red's rump, he shifted into that phantom gear.
Tentam, an outstanding racehorse and up to that point the top turf horse in North America, was completely overshadowed by a genetic freak.
Tentam was not "the top turf horse in North America" as Secretariat beat Tentam in the Man O' War on turf. I suppose most great athletes could be described genetic freaks by those jealous of their success. Because in most sports the great athletes do not share physical attributes of the general population.
@@ValleyoftheRogue He swatted him away like a fly ... and Tentam was five lengths clear of everyone else. Big Red might have been a better turf horse.
It’s called a 22 pound heart
.. The horse was a freak of nature. To do what Secretariat did as a 3 year old was simply unimaginable and can never be duplicated again..Yeah I said Never..It's impossible !!
Nothing is impossible. This was one of God's creatures. He surely can make an even better one. We may not live to see it but one day....
@@nittydalion Not happening, ever. Secretariat was sired by the greatest thoroughbred sire of all time, Bold Ruler, and there is not another Bold Ruler, though descendant A.P. Indy has made a big impact in the breed. Secretariat was a genetic freak and will never, ever be duplicated again. He had a full sister who had no racing ability at all.
@@ValleyoftheRogue never say never. Close mindedness is a sin in my book. And your statement can't be proven unless you live forever to see every horse ever.
@@ValleyoftheRogue They said that about Man O War too. But we ended up with a Secretariat anyway. You can't predict nature.
I remember watching that race, live.
I just love how when Ron tells him to go, Red says "Just a sec...let me just change my lead.... Okay...let's go."
I think you have it backwards, Turcotte has said that Secretariat dictated his own race, Turcotte was just along for the ride 😉
@@Makado14 Not here. Turcotte said in an interview that they're playing with the field here. Every time Tentam came in close at a certain distance Secretariat would pull away, Turcott during this time made a recent discovery that Secretariat was actually 10 to 15 Lengths faster on turf than on dirt.
Can read the article here about the whole event
www.nyra.com/belmont/news/man-o%E2%80%99war-stakes-win-proved-secretariat%E2%80%99s-supremacy-on-turf
Look at how much bigger Secretariat is than the other horses. No fault of their own, but he just was so much of a horse with the heart so much bigger. The other horses did their best but no one could ever beat Secretariat, he was created the way he was and used everything God gave him.
Nobody better than Secretariat and I'm so glad he loved
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He beat them without even trying ! Hes not a horse anymore hes a LEGEND !
Another extraordinary performance. Remember if you will Tentam was the top grass horse in North America in 1973, and Secretariat toyed with him. Big Spruce was no slouch, either.
Big red simply ran as fast as he wanted to. GOAT no question.
Have watched this video many times. A truly amazing stride and an effortless win smashing the stakes record by over 2 seconds. In 14 weeks, Sec ran 7 times with 3 races at 1 1/2 miles and one at 1 5/8 miles. This without racing for 6 weeks due to illness and never having regained TC form. To include the Belmont over this timespan, Sec posted 2 WR's, 3 stakes records and 3 track records. The best, ever.
Knew Secretariat was king of the dirt but didn't know he was great on the grass too.
czcams.com/video/EqliNZvnFoE/video.html
@@Ghostridercdn Great on turf too a real champion.
Turcotte thought Secretarait was 10-15 lengths better on grass than dirt.
He was 1973 horse of the year on turf
Thanks for posting. Secretariat looks like he's merely galloping. Great performance!!!
He does look like he's just galloping and it looks like he's running for pure pleasure...what a beautiful and exciting athlete to watch perfect his art.
In sprinting speed is created by "turnover" how fast can you take steps or make your stride. Most people and horses take a second to ramp up into the next gear. Big Red had extra power, and extra gears at nearly an instant. When Ron asked, it just just happened. Its like Big Red could almost read Ron's minds. Just amazing to watch.
Ron Turcotte and Secretariat were a great and UNSTOPPABLE TEAM TO SET THOSE TRIPLE CROWN RACES RECORDS ESPECIALLY THE BELMONT STAKES FOR THEM TO DO 31 lengths in 2:24 in record time.
Just out for a little gallop. Simply the best ever!
You can actually see him change gears ... Bravo Bravo Bravo your legacy will endure for eternity
Just watched the Man O'War that was run today in 2019. Man how this race has changed since Big Red won in 1973. When Secretariat won the race it was 1 1/2 miles on the outer turf course, now it's run at a 1 3/8 on the inner turf course.
You watch this race and you have to wonder how incredible would it have been if he'd been able to run as a four year old. He would have smashed track and world records that would never have been broken.
Wasted potential :/
I always thought that. I mentioned somewhere else that they had to change his saddle belt between the Derby and the Preakness because he was still growing. Such a shame he never raced as a 4YO.
@@wmg5852 no kidding. Can you imagine what he would have done as a fully mature horse?
100% agree, and it would have shut up all of the naysayers against Secretariat - permanently...
@@wmg5852 100% agree, but the Meadow, Penny, et al, had their backs against the wall, from what I read. They had to syndicate him in order to pay the estate taxes due, and save the barn.
Dirt or grass no one could beat this legend.
The farther they went the more he would pull away.
Turcott said Secretariat was 10 to 15 Lengths better on Turf... He could not believe it. ..he and Secretariat are playing here, he recalled in an interview
There is no doubt in my mind that Secretariat was the best racehorse that ever stepped on the track. In 1973 my wife and I went to Toronto and got to see him run the last race of his career. If you want to see an injustice, you can go back and look at one race that he won and was disqualified from. I don't believe his interference was worthy of the penalty. I still have the winning tickek from that race at Woodbine.
Yes, that race in late October 1973, at the Woodbine Race Track is now the stuff of legend. It was a cold and damp day, but the crowds still came out to see Secretariat run one last time. I always thought that the lovely Penny Chenery (Secretariat's owner) decided to make Canada the last place Secretariat would race, was (at least in part) due to the fact that both Ron Turcotte and Lucien Laurin (two of her closet team members) were citizens of Canada. I am sure you have seen it, but (for those who may not know) there is a wonderful documentary out here on CZcams, called "Secretariat's Last Race." It nicely captures the huge excitement and interest which revolved around this day. Cheers to all from Niagara Canada!
Big Red no horse compares he could do it all very good Turf horse also . He's the Champion of Champions Jesus will probably come back on Big Red cause there is no other horse like him .
he set a track record for 1 1/2 mile turf course at Belmont Park which lasted a long time.......brought my youngest daughter (11 year old) to Aqueduct on Veteran's Day 1973-no school- when Turcotte , Lauren et.al...Meadow Stable said good bye to the fans aa he galloped down the stretch for the last time......
He was just playing with the field. The greatest we will ever see.
Secretariat is not only powerful. He is driven to win, and he is a perfect creation. Thank you God for giving him to us.😊.
give credit to tentam for trying to close the gap next to the horse god.
Ron Turcotte admitted he was doing that on purpose. He would ease Secretariat, just enough for Tentam to get close, then accelerate Secretariat each time to pull away. He set a world record despite doing that.
@@nthdegree1269 And Tentam wasn't a bad horse at all; he was a three-time Grade I stakes winner and was the world record holder for a mile and an eighth on turf. And Secretariat played with him like a yo-yo.
@@johnhunter2294 Tentam was considered the top grass horse in North America up to this point.
@@ValleyoftheRogue Tentam was an outstanding horse, but he was up against the greatest of all time. Turcotte has said that Secretariat was two to three seconds faster on turf than he was on dirt; that would mean he could possibly have run a 2:21 mile and a half, which would be a world record as untouchable as his 2:24 Belmont.
The one mile and five furlong race, equaled the world record at that distance, on any surface‼️
When Secretariat saw the finish line at the final turn, it was over!🥰🥰🥰
I thought horses in the 1970's had a tough schedule until I discovered Australian legend Tulloch who ran 9 times 12+ furlongs out of 16 starts as a 3 y.o. and 10 times 12+ furlongs out of 19 starts as a 5 y.o, in the late 50's to early 60's.
His best 12f time? 2:26.9, a then world record but still over 2 seconds (10 lengths) behind Secretariat's hand ridden cruise here.
BEST HORSE EVER
I am not a racing fan but I could be wrong but I never see Secretaiat whipped in any of his races.
Just cruised around; a class above his opposition.
He was the greatestever that just pass the back stretch he kick it into another gear then as man of war made another move on the last lap secretariat kick it into another gear its like secretariat was so powerful a horse I havent seen that powerful speed in a horse ever since💯💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
After looking up Woodward winners, I wondered why I didn't know West Coast Scout, I'd been following horse racing since Carry Back won the Kentucky Derby, but with Secretariat, Allez France and Dahlia tearing up the turf, it's no wonder. Poor baby didn't stand a chance.
Tentam was the top grass horse in North America.
*was*
Older and had the world record....until he met Secretariat, who According to Turcotte around this time discovered Secretariat was 10 to 15 Lengths better on Turf, which is mindboggling. He played here, pulling Secretariat back then pulling away, cat and mouse game. He was amazed at Secretariat on Turf he felt that confident to do something like that against that type of field. It's really amazing
Here is how it went down. Big red is cruising with the radio loud in the back stretch. The two others hit the turbo booster, close the gap... Hah we got you now, big red looks over his shoulder puts a little on the gas and turns the radio up. The other guy hits the nitro button, got you now bastard... Big red turns the radio all the way up and shouts out the window... who piece of sh*$evrolet is that. I got a 455 rocket... pedal to the medal and pulls away.... czcams.com/video/kQZV6q00sUc/video.html
I believe he was the most amazing athlete ever .
IMO the 3 greatest race horses I've ever seen are Secretariat #1, and a toss-up for second between Spectacular Bid and Dr. Fager. There are a lot of people, for one reason or another, that don't think he was the best ever, and they often point to his 4 losses (since one was a DQ, which he actually won, I'm counting 4, and if you don't like it, I don't care.) That's fine, but for argument's sake, I'll point to what I have always thought was the greatest season a baseball pitcher ever had, and that was Bob Gibson in 1968; he was so good, in fact, that the following year they changed the height of the mound. In 1968 Gibson won 22 games, but lost (incredibly) 9. There have been many pitchers before and after who have had better won-loss records for a single season, but nobody in the modern baseball era ever got close to throwing down a 1.12 ERA with over 300 IP (and 13 shutouts.) Oh, and one other thing- there was only one horse in the history of racing that could've beaten Prove Out the day he beat Secretariat, and that horse was Secretariat on a good day. As for his other 2 losses as a 3 YO, just look at the times he put down (Lucien Laurin was one obstinate SOB); if you think there wasn't something wrong with him, then I gotta bridge to sell you.
That was the same year Bob Gibson lost in the final game to the Detroit Tigers in game 7 of the world series .He may of had the best year to you but when they needed him in game 7 he lost to the Tigers Oh ya Denny McClain won(incredibly) 31 games And lost (Incredibly 6 games) that year the last pitcher to win over 30 games.I would of love to see your Secretariat run against the last triple crown winner of England Nijinsky on turf who won the triple crown in 1970.There is no way you can say one horse is better than another if they haven't raced against each other.Different times in history and different tracks ran on
@@fklifter1 I'm not sure you got my point. Sorry. Let me make this as clear as possible: I'm saying as great as Gibson was (1.12ERA), he lost a bunch of games. And the 7th game he lost to the Tigers, his defense let him down; if his team can't catch a catchable ball, what exactly do you want him to do? And just so you know, I was rooting for the Tigers, so I was happy he lost! I also said the 3 greatest horses I've ever seen.
US Turf racing in the 70s was very average but agree with you're comments. Secretariat was the best I've ever seen on dirt his times in all triple crown races were records and the belmont might never be beat? thought slew was a real special horse too just behind big red.
He set the course record at Belmont for 12F in this race: 2:24.4.
Amazing, he looked like he was just coasting for most of the way. Tentam, I believe, was a champion on turf. Could you imagine what the time would have been if he was really going full out?
You can see secretariat looks like hes flying a lil bit, like flying 3ft from the ground
Saluti dall'Italia!
Don't think I've seen the jockey use the whip on any of Secretariat's races on you tube.
To put the time Secretariat ran in the Man o War in perspective, it is worth noting that nine years earlier, Kelso ran 1 1/2 miles on turf in 2:23.8. That's a full second faster. Dozens of horses have run 1 1/2 miles on turf faster than Secretariat did on this day. The current world record is 2:22.6.
Like omg I’m crying 😭😖😀😭 I’m so happy Secretariat loves to run and Ronnie doesn’t even need the whip, like why do ppl these days use the whip on them, let them run how they want to, RONNIE PETS SECRETARIAT NOT WHIPS HIM 💔😢😭😭 my heart hurts with happiness and sadness for those horses in the world Boeing wiped to run 2:33
When I see races where horse’s finish a race riderless, perhaps winning that race, it makes me wonder. Yeah, training plays a part but that horse didn’t need to be whipped to run or win.
Secretariat from a different place, a total one off....
No one can defeat secretariat in racing 😅😅😅😅
He would have smoked Zenyatta. All these yatta yatta fans think she would have beat him.
It wouldnt even have been close!
As great as Zenyatta was, she wouldn't be within two time zones of Secretariat. The only one that would even come close would be Spectacular Bid.
She was a mare, for God's sake. Cut her a break!
According to wikipedia those stakes were a mile and a half and he did 2:24 , like his famous Belmont stakes untouchable record , he dit it again!!! , on turf!!!
It was 2:24 4/5 for a mile and a half on turf, which is quite a bit faster than dirt. But, that being said, he did it without much effort. Look at him at the finish; his head is still down and not bobbing, his strides are still long. He's not tired. He could've gone MUCH faster if he'd needed to.
And down the stretch they come!
This was in the fall, correct? So, he ran, what 12 races in seven months? Those were the days ...
Youre not catching the fastest horse of all time from behind!
Man o War was never given his head. Enough said.
At every single distance from 5.5 furlongs to a mile and five eighths, Secretariat is FASTER. End of story. Their best times are:
5.5 furlongs: Sec 1:03 2/5 (estimated Belmont time, a fifth either way maybe), MOW 1:05 3/5
6 furlongs: Sec 1:09 2/5 (Belmont fraction), MOW 1:11 1/5
Mile: Sec 1:33 2/5, MOW 1:35 4/5
1 1/8: Sec 1:45 2/5, MOW 1:49 1/5
1 3/16: Sec 1:53, MOW 1:56 3/5
1 1/4: Sec 1:59 (Belmont fraction), MOW 2:01 4/5
1 1/2: Sec 2:24 (world record that still stands), MOW 2:28 4/5 (would probably have been around 2:27 in the Belmont for 1 1/2)
1 5/8: Sec 2:37 3/5 (unofficial world record in the Belmont), MOW 2:40 4/5
Yada, yada. Secretariat is the king!!!
Another terrible start, but that never seemed to matter for Secretariat. The horse that came second broke the previous track record as well. Not a bad performance for a first ever turf race by Secretariat.
Secretariat had the habit of leaning against the back wall in the gate; if they could have trained that out of him he would've been even faster, as hard as that is to imagine.
Hey does anyone know secretariats beyer speed score here?
Not this race but Beyer said he would have given him the highest ever recorded for the Belmont. This race is probably a close second.
From Andrew Beyer, "Years later, when my speed-figure methods had matured, I revisited the data from the day of the 1973 Belmont and tried to produce a figure that would relate to my present-day numbers. I calculated that Secretariat had earned a 139, a figure that no horse after him has ever approached. (The best Beyer Speed Figure in the last two decades was Ghostzapper's 128 in 2004.)"
It was 139 for his Belmont win
This was only four-fifths slower than the Belmont, so I would guess it to be in the mid-130s. I don't know if there's an adjustment for turf, but it would almost have to be 130+ no matter what the surface was.
Why need 1B when you have Secretariat
He just had another gear or two.
CADILLAC!!!!!!!!!🥰💯💢💥🏇🏇
Frankel destroys this
Oh, please. Frankel never raced 12 furlongs at three (or ever). You've no idea if he could have or not.
Frankel was the king of 1 mile races.Secretariat ran the mile two times that year, and ...faster than Frankel's best! Two great horses but the chronos speaks for themselves.
Frankel wouldn't belong on the same track with Secretariat. What people can't seem to understand is Secretariat was a true genetic freak. We will never, ever see another one like him.
@@alca29 And remember, Secretariat did it DECADES before.
Man o' war is still better...
Great yes, but all the stats point to Big Red beating Man O’ War.
Really? Really?
@@michaelgoodale655 man o war is great but secretariats time says other wise
@@kendallfaithj9645 At every single distance from 5.5 furlongs to a mile and five eighths, Secretariat is faster. Their best times are:
5.5 furlongs: Sec 1:03 2/5 (estimated Belmont time, a fifth either way maybe), MOW 1:05 3/5
6 furlongs: Sec 1:09 2/5 (Belmont fraction), MOW 1:11 1/5
Mile: Sec 1:33 2/5, MOW 1:35 4/5
1 1/8: Sec 1:45 2/5, MOW 1:49 1/5
1 3/16: Sec 1:53, MOW 1:56 3/5
1 1/4: Sec 1:59 (Belmont fraction), MOW 2:01 4/5
1 1/2: Sec 2:24 (world record that still stands), MOW 2:28 4/5 (would probably have been around 2:27 in the Belmont for 1 1/2)
1 5/8: Sec 2:37 3/5 (unofficial world record in the Belmont), MOW 2:40 4/5
MOW was the best of his time, to be sure, and arguably the most important sire of the 20th century, but Secretariat would have run him off the track at any distance.
@@johnhunter2294 Run him off the track is a bit bombastic.
Do people reallyyy think this is would trouble Seabird, Ribot, Brigadier Gerrard or Frankel? These four titans of the Turf lost TWICE in Fifty Six Races! That's because they where unstoppable.. Secretariat lost FIVE times in twenty one races.. And people have the audacity to think he possessed the cruising speed of Frankel, the power of Ribot, the speed and stamina of Brigadier Gerard, or the majestic brilliance of Seabird? Those horses done it time and time again. Secretariat also operated at a high level, but only displayed true out of this world brilliance in a race that fell apart, left alone, uncontested, against selling platers on a lighting fast surface.. We give him that, it was visually incredible.. But to think he could mix it with the real titans of the Turf, is fantasy in my book.
Oooh, the audacity!! Those were all great horses, but their records can also fall apart on closer inspection, especially Frankel (who never raced beyond a mile in his five starts at age three, and only two of those were in open company) and Ribot (five of his six three-year-old starts came in tier 2 post WWII Italy). Sea Bird was the best of those you mentioned, in my opinion, but still raced only five times at three (and only two of those were open), compared to Secretariat's 12 starts (five in open company). Had Sea Bird (or Frankel) raced 12 times at three, do you really believe he would still have been undefeated at three? It's really a shame Secretariat was not able to race at four, because if his sire and damsire give us any indication, he would have been even better. Being undefeated is partly skill and partly luck, and is a foolish sole basis for superiority. And if you maintain that the Belmont is the only race in which Secretariat demonstrated superior ability, you are just showing your ignorance.
@@profsdottir The Belmont is the one race he earned a Timeform provisional rating of 144. The other races may have been high 130s. If we're comparing all these beasts as 3 year olds (and assuming they're drug free, which is very questionable in the 1970s) then I agree, Frankel has competition. He ran to 143 in the QEII. And no horse in history could have done what he did in the Guineas. Ribot was rated mid 130s, yet considered hugely underrated. Seabird is out on his own at 145 - his Arc was simply majestic. Brigadier was low 140s and Secretariat on the back of one performance, was 144. He met open company over the exact same course and distance and got exposed once a bit of pressure was applied to him - so even the 144 should be taken with some hesitancy. Even still, he was a monster and worthy of his place with all four of our European Titans
But as older horses - on the only evidence we have available - if all 5 horses where to meet over 1m2f, odds would look something like this:
Frankel 4/9F
Seabird 5/2
Ribot 4/1
Secretariat 6/1
Brigadier Gerrard 7/1
@@leesog3203 Timeform did not rate Us horses in the 1970's, and latter day assessments should be taken with a grain of salt, as any comparisons between decades, countries and racing surfaces should, including yours and mine. Any ratings system (including Beyer) will have some bias, intentional or not (most likely not), as human beings are conducting them. I have seen dozens of seven furlong or one mile races, some of them even group or grade 1, where a horse takes a commanding lead and ends up winning by virtue of their early turn of foot. These are very good horses, to be sure, but the best ever? And the hyperbole (not yours, but published various places) of saying that he beat a "top class field of milers" in the Guineas is just too much. This was an age restricted race. which had some horses that had won age-restricted races. Except for Casemento, who won the RPT at two, there were scant G1 winners (even age-restricted G1) in the Guineas other than Frankel. Dubawi Gold never won a Group 1 in his career. Now, all of this doesn't mean I don't think Frankel was remarkable when he raced. It's just that his career was, shall we say, a somewhat protected one. And that, and his talent, is why he finished his career undefeated. Finally, your allusion to drugging is unnecessary and reveals the uncertainty of your claim. There is no magic "drug free" barrier around the British Isles or anywhere else, and too many drugs now and certainly in 2011 and 2012 that are undetectable. Stud fees now are through the roof for successful milers, and the temptation to "help" a good horse appeal to future breeders has never been greater. Secretariat had already been syndicated before his three year old season, so the pressure of selling his breeding rights was gone before he stepped foot on the track in 1973. I think one could make a stronger argument for Frankel's having benefited from "help," but I prefer to take him as he was and not believe he was drugged. Just maybe not as challenged as he could have been.
He raced twice when sick and knocked back to second on bogus interference ruling.
Frankel ran mostly 1,600m (1 mile) , Secretariat ran that distance only two times and did better chronos (champagne stakes and gotham stakes) ok it was on dirt,so look at the race above and the longest of Frankel (2000m) and check the chronos...like Chic Anderson said... ''he's all alone!''