After Apologizing, DSP Tries to Justify His Terrible Behavior. It's The Trolls Fault

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Komentáře • 188

  • @internetanon952
    @internetanon952 Před 5 měsíci +73

    All of DSP's financial issues would go away if he stopped gambling, but he can't ever admit to that so his life will be eternally destructive.

    • @GarththeVader
      @GarththeVader Před 5 měsíci +6

      Not all, he still loves that DoorDash, Gin, and those Mobile games d00d, yew just don't understahnddd!!!

    • @AveryWildman95
      @AveryWildman95 Před 5 měsíci +8

      He’s also addicted to gin and orders DoorDash for almost every meal as well because if you’re going to self destruct, you might as well do so in spectacular fashion.

    • @penguinsmovies
      @penguinsmovies Před 5 měsíci +7

      Back before all this , he blew all his money on stupid little statues and a bmw even if he quit he will never be financially responsible. There is no way he will ever be able to retire but also hold on to the smart fort and it couldn't happen to a better person.

    • @sakethsonu
      @sakethsonu Před 5 měsíci +3

      It's not even gambling. it's pouring money down the drain. Atleast in gambling you have a CHANCE to win SOMETHING

    • @jkdman2007
      @jkdman2007 Před 5 měsíci +1

      For someone who has serious addiction problems BUT still acts so moral high and criticizes other people like he is a saint or something is just so disgusting. TBH I have never seen any streamer as hypocritical as this guy. 😂

  • @pflaute
    @pflaute Před 5 měsíci +78

    Always an excuse for Phill's poor behavior. No responsibility. No accountability

    • @HeyMan1624
      @HeyMan1624 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Then he’s gonna say “I literally just apologized on my podcast, I’m not gonna apologize again! Now please give me tips and be a legit member” 😂

    • @dcstiger
      @dcstiger Před 5 měsíci +4

      Text book narcissist. Isolating himself for a decade and creating his own delusional fantasy world have not helped his social skills or mental health either.

    • @jkdman2007
      @jkdman2007 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It's funny that he thinks doing apologies will earse all his wrong doings. He has the typical criminal way of thinking. He uses apologies as the shield to avoid the criticism and punishment. 😂

    • @parli_poo11
      @parli_poo11 Před 5 měsíci +2

      He apologized like a dozen times last year lol. His apologies mean absolutely nothing.

    • @_Brazen_
      @_Brazen_ Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's everyone's fault but his.

  • @Podgemaster
    @Podgemaster Před 5 měsíci +39

    🎵“I need that money, I really really do”🎵

  • @Irishslag
    @Irishslag Před 5 měsíci +19

    He literally said how he acts is the fault of other people.
    That is WILD

  • @penguinsmovies
    @penguinsmovies Před 5 měsíci +25

    A literal twelve minute rant that boils down to no one can understand my pain because I have to pay taxes.

  • @Wigglez69
    @Wigglez69 Před 5 měsíci +55

    I think even without the “trolls” people still wouldn’t sponsor him lol

    • @DJMcFlinty
      @DJMcFlinty Před 5 měsíci +3

      Sponsoring a streamer with 100 viewers (trolls account for 60% of his views easily)

    • @Hotchefmice
      @Hotchefmice Před 5 měsíci

      Even when he was sponsored he trashed every product he got afaik, the biggest one i remember was one of the mario and sonic olympic games and the guy who gave him the sponsor code to get the game early even told him he screwed up after seeing that mess of a stream

  • @oldguardiron5946
    @oldguardiron5946 Před 5 měsíci +46

    If phil was a decent human he would not have trolls.

    • @tlingitsoldier
      @tlingitsoldier Před 5 měsíci +7

      No, you don't understand because you only listen to troll conspiracy theories, dood! TIHYDP made everyone turn on him for absolutely no reason, just because it became the kewl thing to harrass DSP. He liTerally did nothing wrong!

    • @jkdman2007
      @jkdman2007 Před 5 měsíci

      Remember he is holier than other people and he is so positive. 😂

  • @avsrule247
    @avsrule247 Před 5 měsíci +26

    Ahh yes we're back to the "trolls ruined any sponsorship opportunities". Next week it will be "I dont do sponsorships because i want to be awhnest with you guys"😅

  • @Ashkihyena
    @Ashkihyena Před 5 měsíci +28

    “The trolls fault”
    Yeah, some apology Phil 🙄

  • @hansolo9868
    @hansolo9868 Před 5 měsíci +18

    You can’t spell philanthropy without Phil

  • @TheJericho1123
    @TheJericho1123 Před 5 měsíci +20

    i admit it, i flew to Renton, scaled the gate to his gated community and forced him to be negative or i would hide khet`s horseshoes.

    • @Ouroboros619
      @Ouroboros619 Před 5 měsíci +2

      How could you? Don't you know Phil is the hardest worker on the planet? He has annual taxes to pay every week!

  • @crome2sniper
    @crome2sniper Před 5 měsíci +58

    I thought he DIDNT do sponsorships cause he hated them, now it's "I CANT do sponsorships " 😂 which is one is it

    • @eth0
      @eth0 Před 5 měsíci +19

      Whatever fits the pignosis at any given time.

    • @Cookieboy70
      @Cookieboy70 Před 5 měsíci +5

      It was always the latter. He can't keep up with his lies. In just one minute, he said it was the trolls fault, then it was Ubisoft's fault for complaining to Twitch, and then it was Twitch's fault for lying.

    • @hydratedmate
      @hydratedmate Před 5 měsíci +2

      He needs money the wwe spending catching up

    • @TrashBinCat
      @TrashBinCat Před 5 měsíci +1

      A couple months from now he'll switch and back to smugly implying that he doesn't do sponsorships because he is superior to all those pathetic and bias shill streamers who do take them.

    • @newmarketdispatch4830
      @newmarketdispatch4830 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Dsp doesnt shill prawducks cause he doesnt want to be tied down to the companys narative

  • @TheSlashd0t
    @TheSlashd0t Před 5 měsíci +9

    'I am sorry you feel that way. It's da troolz. Nothing I could do...'

  • @allmymirrors
    @allmymirrors Před 5 měsíci +16

    Didn't he say he constantly receives sponsorship proposals in his email but he refuses them to maintain the purity of his content?

    • @numberonedad
      @numberonedad Před 5 měsíci +9

      yeah but that lie isn't the most convenient one rn

    • @snoozeflu
      @snoozeflu Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yes, he has said that several times. He said he gets offers but deletes them because he refuses to be a shill.

    • @pheonixgray6078
      @pheonixgray6078 Před 5 měsíci

      On a regular basis 😂

  • @2FRESH-4U
    @2FRESH-4U Před 5 měsíci +22

    If someone’s bad reputation would cost him money he’d cut them instantly

    • @uberneanderthal
      @uberneanderthal Před 5 měsíci

      he and other lolcows made me realize that hypocrisy isn't black and white, it's a spectrum, and he's on the extreme end of it. some people dip their toes in hypocrisy; pigbert is scuba diving in it and hasn't been up for air in 40 years.

    • @DJMcFlinty
      @DJMcFlinty Před 5 měsíci +2

      Derich?

  • @kyletech84
    @kyletech84 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Just another strategy, he's desperate and will try anything at this point, even an entitled narcissist knows when they have to change up. It's always temporary with dsp unless you're talking about his greed.

    • @TrashBinCat
      @TrashBinCat Před 5 měsíci +2

      Time for extra thick pignosis

    • @thesearching
      @thesearching Před 5 měsíci +2

      this is what narcissists do , come up with a nonsense apology to then say " see i openly apologiesed , 10 min later that mask comes back of
      their whole life is very destructive to everybody who is in their lives , especially his wife .
      The only reason why he is doing this is because he needs his dents money , so he needs to be " humble on his knees " to get their sympathy again .
      Tomorrow hes back to begging and forgot already about this whole segment .

    • @DJMcFlinty
      @DJMcFlinty Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@TrashBinCatnow 20% more robust

  • @chrisdornerrespecter8884
    @chrisdornerrespecter8884 Před 5 měsíci +5

    He has Raid Shadow Legends emails in his inbox hes conveniently ignoring

  • @asura48
    @asura48 Před 5 měsíci +9

    "Begging all day everyday for money"
    Dsp: it's the trolls fault.......they threatened my life if i don't beg you for money.........money that i use to on myself and my fat horse

  • @Kaahthulu
    @Kaahthulu Před 5 měsíci +11

    Projecting with that “Coward” comment 🙃

  • @scorpiodurango6163
    @scorpiodurango6163 Před 5 měsíci +5

    This is Mr. & Mrs Burnell’s fault!
    They created this monster!

  • @punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693
    @punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I thought Phil was proud of not having sponsorships and "shilling products"? Isn't that supposed to be one of his selling points to his channel?

    • @doctormalleycat
      @doctormalleycat Před 5 měsíci +3

      He also has a girlfriend but she goes to a different school and you wouldn't know her

    • @dcstiger
      @dcstiger Před 5 měsíci +1

      Phil lies so often that he forgets what story he currently wants his dents to believe. Plus he is extremely lazy and knows his dents don't really care.

    • @slick3996
      @slick3996 Před 5 měsíci

      it depends on what fits his point at the current moment, don’t forget that Starfield will win GOTY and if you think otherwise you are a f*cking idiot who knows nothing about gaming, heh

  • @RC-cv3bv
    @RC-cv3bv Před 5 měsíci +7

    It truly has bever occurred to Phil to at least pretend to be a decent person for the camera. He thinks he has every right to act like a psycho just because he's having a bad day.

  • @Tommy9834
    @Tommy9834 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Ohhh, so we're back to the "I can't get sponsorships because of the trolls". For a while, we were on the "I don't take sponsorships, because I'm morally superior, even though I have hundreds of emails, offering me sponsorships"

  • @handsomestik
    @handsomestik Před 5 měsíci +12

    You can play one of Outsider's TIHYDP vids when DSP was on Twitch and hear slurs left and right. I don't know why he keeps saying they had no evidence?

    • @DJMcFlinty
      @DJMcFlinty Před 5 měsíci +2

      He directly insults the employees and the platform he uses

    • @lc1429
      @lc1429 Před 5 měsíci

      just 2 days ago he made a racist Japanese joke when playing like a dragon

  • @Mr__Geno
    @Mr__Geno Před 5 měsíci +4

    DSP: DaTRolLzHaVENoPOweR
    Also DSP: Please give me more money, trolls are too powerful and ruining mah business.

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 Před 5 měsíci +1

    He Really wont take responsibility for ANYTHING.

  • @chrisdanks6447
    @chrisdanks6447 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Gaslighting malignant narcissist @ "work"

  • @dertythegrower
    @dertythegrower Před 5 měsíci +6

    right.....right.....right....right.. scans chat... right... right.. right?

  • @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide
    @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide Před 5 měsíci +3

    How does he think he’d get sponsors with the small amount of views, and engagement he has?
    Advertisers wouldn’t see any benefit..

  • @Sarkkoth
    @Sarkkoth Před 5 měsíci +2

    So to summarize: "I did nothing wrong. I did everything correct."

  • @v1sudo
    @v1sudo Před 5 měsíci +3

    DSP needs that money guise. But not from anonymous people he's never seen in his chat before. He wants real, legitimate contributions guise. Not fake members from Argentina

  • @mechanwhal6590
    @mechanwhal6590 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Okay, pay attention class! When you make an apology, do you
    A - Admit that you were wrong and do your best to make amends
    B - Blame the other party and play the victim card
    C - Attempt to justify what you were doing and make the other party look unreasonable
    D - Attempt to sneak in an e-beg
    If you answered A, congratulations! You have a functioning moral compass!

  • @Space64727
    @Space64727 Před 5 měsíci

    He wouldn't have trolls if he didn't treat people like shit.

  • @nervosadustbolt9642
    @nervosadustbolt9642 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I can't stand that fake laugh of his.. And, he is sure someone to call someone else a Coward.

  • @Silenthilldude87
    @Silenthilldude87 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Aww, the Uniqlo, black XL slim fit shirt is back out of the closet.

  • @GamerGuyOG
    @GamerGuyOG Před 5 měsíci +3

    Phil has the biggest victim card deck I've ever seen

  • @Flexikan24
    @Flexikan24 Před 5 měsíci +3

    it's funny how obvious it is that DSP watches all of doodys videos 😂 and even trys to take his advice

  • @dcstiger
    @dcstiger Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nothing says mature adult like taking zero responsibility and learning nothing from past mistakes.

  • @thewarrior313
    @thewarrior313 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hell, even AA wouldn't sponsor him. 😂

  • @ImaNeedTreeFiddy
    @ImaNeedTreeFiddy Před 5 měsíci +2

    Was that the quickest walk back he had ever done?

  • @snoozeflu
    @snoozeflu Před 5 měsíci +2

    I am no longer buying this nonsense about trolls. At some point he has to take accountability for his own actions.

  • @Pwop_
    @Pwop_ Před 5 měsíci +2

    “It doesnt matter that I’m white and say the N word and F Slur. It matters that a group of people gathered and made a compilation of it”

  • @scorpiodurango6163
    @scorpiodurango6163 Před 5 měsíci

    He knows that for once his nasty disrespectfulness has an affect on him!

  • @stranger6382
    @stranger6382 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This guy believes he should have gotten full American dollars for those memberships. When, in reality, he would have never gotten that much membership in the first place.

  • @keinentraum
    @keinentraum Před 5 měsíci

    He wants all of the credit/praise without any of the accountability.

  • @AveryWildman95
    @AveryWildman95 Před 5 měsíci +1

    “I did everything right, I did nothing wrong.”

  • @daddybuttoneyes
    @daddybuttoneyes Před 5 měsíci

    This is probably how he justifies it to himself whenever he scams the dents... "I don't like lying about my tire being stolen to get money.... but I have too because the stoopid trolls put me in this position."

  • @scorpiodurango6163
    @scorpiodurango6163 Před 5 měsíci

    He’s a narcissist & a gambler!
    It will never in his lifetime “ Be His Fault !”

  • @Disc023-ps6le
    @Disc023-ps6le Před 5 měsíci +1

    No fkn way 😮 I just got a tiktok vid showing somebody putting salt on a pork chop and then chopping it up. Wtf

  • @dyingculture
    @dyingculture Před 5 měsíci +1

    He lost sponsorships because of his own behavior, regardless of who brought them to light and their motives. Informed decisions were made to drop him. He brought it on himself. Worse than that he makes no effort to atone or show that he’s changed because he won’t accept responsibility. How changed can he be if the only thing he took away from that experience is how he was unfairly victimized?

  • @wildwest1832
    @wildwest1832 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I wonder how many times phil has said there is nothing he can do about that. Hundreds? Thousands? Its like 10 times a stream about anything requiring him to do anything.

  • @TheDarkQueen89
    @TheDarkQueen89 Před 5 měsíci +2

    He can't get sponsorships because anyone with a brain could see that Phil is toxic and is not a good spokesperson for products.

  • @simple3d326
    @simple3d326 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Empty apology

  • @SayianGod98
    @SayianGod98 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This man child is 41 😮 my son is more mature he's only 5 thats telling he literally acts like he is 5

  • @drip_souls_3224
    @drip_souls_3224 Před 5 měsíci

    Mfw 95% of his issues will evaporate if he was 100% transparent about his financials, take true accountability, and act/behave like a normal person. Soooo oblivious that all of this is HIS fault!

  • @Beautiful_Mess
    @Beautiful_Mess Před 5 měsíci +1

    Phil on sponsorships, whose fault is it?
    Depends on what he needs. If it’s sympathy donos, it’s our fault. If it’s regular donos, then he doesn’t take them because his creative genius is his own, and he doesn’t want to risk it. 😂

  • @suicideboy57
    @suicideboy57 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You've got a super quick turnaround lately, doody

  • @gagaalghifary3054
    @gagaalghifary3054 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Phil said he had alot of sponsorship but he didnt want to shill to his dent and now complaining there is no sponsorship? Yeah right

  • @latestage_enchilada
    @latestage_enchilada Před 5 měsíci +2

    So Phil can't get sponsorships? Thats funny because I thought Phil was constantly turning down these offers to maintain his "genuine" content. Lol we all knew he was lying but just a little confirmation.

  • @HBP2
    @HBP2 Před 5 měsíci +2

    quick someone mail dsp a spoon so he can dig a tip out of the dents as$##

  • @dtippin11
    @dtippin11 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wait, I thought he didn't take sponsorships because people who do that are shills?

  • @elainewalls1965
    @elainewalls1965 Před 5 měsíci

    Yesterday he is not a shill. Today it is the trolls' fault. 😂

  • @saberval
    @saberval Před 5 měsíci +3

    Nothing is ever his fault dood

  • @zstrode.8953
    @zstrode.8953 Před 5 měsíci

    woahhhh... isn't this the same guy that says he gets emails 24.7 for sponsorships, but yet he's a stand-up guy and won't take any? 😂

  • @jonathansoko1085
    @jonathansoko1085 Před 5 měsíci +2

    He shouldnt apologize since he did nothing wrong

  • @jeffoff7795
    @jeffoff7795 Před 5 měsíci

    But he won't sell cloths because he has too much integrity, right?

  • @Zorlafsky
    @Zorlafsky Před 5 měsíci

    You really do the lords work shining the light on this roach, Doody

  • @edfornes8010
    @edfornes8010 Před 5 měsíci +2

    wtf does he mean when he said we are cowards?

  • @Trinioutsider34
    @Trinioutsider34 Před 5 měsíci

    He’s hung up Twitch like a man who chases his Ex-Girlfriend who doesn’t want him back. He can keep denying he did nothing wrong but there’s a lot evidence of him doing plenty of wrong things.

  • @Wigglez69
    @Wigglez69 Před 5 měsíci +4

    0:26

  • @richardwilliams5387
    @richardwilliams5387 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Again, does he want sponsorships and can't get them or does he not want them and wouldn't take them cause that'd be shilling?

  • @Magnum062
    @Magnum062 Před 5 měsíci

    Love at the beginning of his speech how he nonchalantly tossed in the comment about losing his house due to slow support. A single late or missed payment isn't going to cause that. Phil is an A+ con artist

  • @redwolfe7049
    @redwolfe7049 Před 5 měsíci

    His life story is multiple choice. It always changes with the narrative he's trying to push. He always goes back and forth between how he can get sponsored because of the trolls and he doesn't want to be sponsored because he's honest and he's crowd funded.

  • @dertythegrower
    @dertythegrower Před 5 měsíci +3

    pathetic... just wow..

  • @bigdadgigachad3042
    @bigdadgigachad3042 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's the "troles" nawt my taaxxic behavior, I did nothing wrong... there's nothing I could do... GIMME YO MONEY

  • @MattyLight816
    @MattyLight816 Před 5 měsíci

    Just wait for the begging when taxes are due in April 😂 or is he guna file yet another extension?

  • @dertythegrower
    @dertythegrower Před 5 měsíci +1

    right? right? right?
    guys.. right?

  • @kevo300
    @kevo300 Před 5 měsíci +4

    You can control the hate...just gtfo off the the internet.

  • @nathanowen8456
    @nathanowen8456 Před 5 měsíci

    This is such a half baked apology from I can tell there is no sincerity in it. Phil needs to sit in that room for a good 15 or 29 minutes to reflect on his actions I'm the past and current we know he won't

  • @cryhavoc124
    @cryhavoc124 Před 5 měsíci

    DSP then: I get TONS of sponsorship deals offered to me all the time dude. I get them in my email and I always turn them down because I’m not like other CZcamsrs!
    DSP now: no one offers me anything and they never will because of the trolls.
    Right Phil, sure. Which is it? It can’t be both ways.

  • @almost9716
    @almost9716 Před 5 měsíci

    Wtf???? What did one minute man say? Leaving it on a cliffhanger?

  • @kenny31000
    @kenny31000 Před 5 měsíci

    I really need that money *snort*

  • @carltonthesponge
    @carltonthesponge Před 5 měsíci

    the Argentine Peso is going down taking Phil along with it

  • @beanxsauce
    @beanxsauce Před 5 měsíci

    Oohbisoft is a confirmed detractor

  • @norscout3031
    @norscout3031 Před 5 měsíci

    I see he's enjoying the bed he made for himself

  • @guitarhero38633
    @guitarhero38633 Před 5 měsíci +1

    King Doody with another banger 💪

  • @gorillachronicles
    @gorillachronicles Před 5 měsíci

    Hes reached a point whete its no longer feasible he can maintain it ,it may go on for another year or two but its reached fully unsustainable levels of begsnort

    • @derplvlcritical
      @derplvlcritical Před 5 měsíci

      Nah, his ad revenue keeps him going. His tips all go straight into the WWE mobile game.

  • @islandpaddle
    @islandpaddle Před 5 měsíci

    This the same dude who said he doesn’t take sponsorships because he’s not a shill 😂

  • @amon37
    @amon37 Před 5 měsíci

    I was a 30 year old kid....Hello Joo!!!

  • @ZeredHeizien
    @ZeredHeizien Před 5 měsíci

    50% of his problems would go away if he didn't constantly every single stream without fail mention trolls, acknowledge trolls, cry about trolls, deflect that all of his problems are because of trolls, etc. He has stated multiple times that he's going to ignore the trolls but he doesn't just like how he has stated multiple times that he's going to stop begging for money which he still does every single stream, recently going as far as to hold his stream hostage until people give him money.

  • @MsGhoulz
    @MsGhoulz Před 5 měsíci

    Let me guess. Phil is much happier today. Because.... money....

  • @MrMultiB
    @MrMultiB Před 5 měsíci

    "I can get a sponsor anytime I want. I choose not to because I'm not a shill like [successful youtuber/streamer]. I'm happy to be crowdfunded [insert cult leader speech]"
    Also Phil: "I can't get sponsors because of trolls."
    Phail can't even keep his lies consistent

  • @Ryuuken24
    @Ryuuken24 Před 5 měsíci

    Why doesn't he say, hello J word and N word give me sponsorship, I did nothing wrong. Scamming the IRS is totally legit gamer business.👌

  • @razorsharp5643
    @razorsharp5643 Před 5 měsíci

    This shows he has no actual desire to accept responsibility. To quote Phil's own rant words, if somebody says a fact, but you don't like them, it doesn't mean it's not a fact. The rant from earlier was unhinged, it flipped the narrative and it made Phil appear superior and his opinions appear as fact when they weren't.
    He doesn't like the people who say the fact, and as a result he tries to make it that it's not a fact. He is literally not listening to, or following, the words he himself spoke.

  • @LordFartNugget
    @LordFartNugget Před 5 měsíci

    1:59 I’d buy that cloth to burst, especially on, May 1st. Would go great with the spoon he’s sending me.

  • @he-mansuncle7661
    @he-mansuncle7661 Před 5 měsíci

    I thought he got emailed to do ads?

  • @bttfdmc1984
    @bttfdmc1984 Před 5 měsíci

    Wow how the story has changed. A few weeks ago Phil was “I don’t take sponsorships cause I don’t want to shill on my stream or be told what to say” to “I would like to get sponsorships but the trolls would ruin it for me.” Make up your mind Phil which is it? Trolls or not wanting to shill?

  • @pheonixgray6078
    @pheonixgray6078 Před 5 měsíci

    I thought he said he didnt take sponsorships for the benefit of his audience? So theyre not always being shilled to and have ads interrupt the streams? He was above being a shill and was a crowd funded streamer? Now its the trolls fault? Which is it fill?

  • @philipblaise5166
    @philipblaise5166 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is the same dude who said saying racist stuff was ok back then so thats y i did it. The word responsibility doesnt exist in phils head

    • @investing-titties
      @investing-titties Před 5 měsíci

      In Phil's defense (and I can't believe I'm defending Phil) He didn't say "racist things" from all of the clips I have seen. He mocked racial stereotypes...which wasn't always a cry baby offense like it is for this zoomer generation. Comedians have done it since the beginning of comedy.

  • @numberonedad
    @numberonedad Před 5 měsíci

    it's a shame dave can't sponsor cloths i need one and have no clue which he prefers