I have the 20 1.8 , it’s exceptional. Quite honestly the 24 won’t ever be in my bag when I already have the 26 pancake and the 24-120. Now if they bring out a 1.4 or 1.2 I may think again
Interesting comparison; I always thought the 20 1.8 S outperformed the other S wide primes significantly. This brings them a bit closer. Still love my 20, though.
With the F mount the differences between lenses are greater than with Z mount lenses I guess. I had some really junky F mount lenses back then when I started. Most of them spontaneously disintegrate or explode during usage by the way😊
Hahahaha. I agree. The fun with F mount though was that difference. 180 2.8 when I wanted something a little more warm for skin, and the Zeiss 35 specifically for Black and white. Now everything is similar which has its strengths too, you really by the focal length these days 🤷♂️ the few that are uniquely awesome are REALLY damn awesome though
I'm gonna spend my May renting both and take on different jobs. While the 20mm is more tempting (since I like the distortion more), I need to get a middle lens such as 40mm or 50mm. Great vid.
The 20mm is an Astro god lens. However I really miss my Rokinon 24mm f1.4. I might find the 24 f1.8 on sale one day used but I am either going to bite on a Z 24mm f1.4 or heaven forbid a 1.2 or buy the next Z 14mm f1.4🤞🏻
Hard to imagine anyone being disappointed in either. The 20 is benched at a higher peak resolution. This is probably most relevant to folks who like to crop (and, I do crop occasionally, but usually not by much). Which is an odd use case for a 20mm prime. I wonder though if the 20 maybe has slightly worse actual light transition at any given aperture than the 24 (which would make sense). This could definitely impact the perceived saturation of colors as that varies by the brightness value of a color (with darker colors appear more saturated).
@@gerfie15 I dont think it would ever be notice. Definitely not in my copies and I’m a notorious pixel peeper. These lenses, as well as pretty much every lens, are just different in what they do. Maybe big differences, maybe small. These days generally you can buy the focal length you want and edit it how you wish it was haha Thanks for watching
Hi and Thank You ZWade, what causes a lens to have more color saturation than another? Is it actually the lens elements and coatings, or is it that the lens somehow tricks the camera into being more or less sensitive to the colors?
I am by no means and expert on lens construction, what I know for SURE is that yes coatings contribute to color, and back in the day over complicated lens designs (lots of elements) equaled less quality images. That seems to be getting correct for to an extend and that’s where I gave up trying to understand it. Because I don’t know how they are getting exception quality out of lenses with 18 elements in 15 groups in a prime hahaha
Ok, the 20mm has been on my list of "must haves" so maybe its time to go for it !!!
I guess I thought you already had. 🤔
I have the 20 1.8 , it’s exceptional. Quite honestly the 24 won’t ever be in my bag when I already have the 26 pancake and the 24-120. Now if they bring out a 1.4 or 1.2 I may think again
@@SingleTrack66 I’d be first in like for 1.2 🙌
Interesting comparison; I always thought the 20 1.8 S outperformed the other S wide primes significantly. This brings them a bit closer. Still love my 20, though.
I was surprised as well.
I have to do more tests
Your first test alone sold me on the 20mm. If ain't sharp up close, it ain't sharp. Period. Be it good or bad, I'm a stickler for details.
@@nospam-hn7xm right on my dude
With the F mount the differences between lenses are greater than with Z mount lenses I guess. I had some really junky F mount lenses back then when I started. Most of them spontaneously disintegrate or explode during usage by the way😊
Plastic aluminum vs stainless and brass
Hahahaha. I agree. The fun with F mount though was that difference. 180 2.8 when I wanted something a little more warm for skin, and the Zeiss 35 specifically for Black and white. Now everything is similar which has its strengths too, you really by the focal length these days 🤷♂️ the few that are uniquely awesome are REALLY damn awesome though
I'm gonna spend my May renting both and take on different jobs. While the 20mm is more tempting (since I like the distortion more), I need to get a middle lens such as 40mm or 50mm. Great vid.
Right on fajar! Glad your liked the vid 🤙🤙
The 20mm is an Astro god lens. However I really miss my Rokinon 24mm f1.4.
I might find the 24 f1.8 on sale one day used but I am either going to bite on a Z 24mm f1.4 or heaven forbid a 1.2 or buy the next Z 14mm f1.4🤞🏻
I’m sure we will see something native in the future. I just realized the other day that there hundreds of third party lenses for the Z mount now 🙌
Hard to imagine anyone being disappointed in either. The 20 is benched at a higher peak resolution. This is probably most relevant to folks who like to crop (and, I do crop occasionally, but usually not by much). Which is an odd use case for a 20mm prime. I wonder though if the 20 maybe has slightly worse actual light transition at any given aperture than the 24 (which would make sense). This could definitely impact the perceived saturation of colors as that varies by the brightness value of a color (with darker colors appear more saturated).
I couldn’t tell ya. All now, is the 20 seems more saturated haha
because of saturation and so on: don`t you think the difference maybe the sensor of Z9 vs Z8 ? in my opinion this could make sense🤔
@@gerfie15they are they same sensor. That’s why I use them to compare
@@ZWadePhoto yes of course, but there are building tolerances, so I might thinkt they are not exaktly the same and may differ a tiny bit
@@gerfie15 I dont think it would ever be notice. Definitely not in my copies and I’m a notorious pixel peeper.
These lenses, as well as pretty much every lens, are just different in what they do. Maybe big differences, maybe small.
These days generally you can buy the focal length you want and edit it how you wish it was haha
Thanks for watching
Hi and Thank You ZWade, what causes a lens to have more color saturation than another? Is it actually the lens elements and coatings, or is it that the lens somehow tricks the camera into being more or less sensitive to the colors?
I am by no means and expert on lens construction, what I know for SURE is that yes coatings contribute to color, and back in the day over complicated lens designs (lots of elements) equaled less quality images. That seems to be getting correct for to an extend and that’s where I gave up trying to understand it. Because I don’t know how they are getting exception quality out of lenses with 18 elements in 15 groups in a prime hahaha
@@ZWadePhoto Thank you
How is the old sigma Art 24mm f1.4.
Google tells me 2022 for the Sony E mount
Curious if you checked the fine tuning of each SD profile? I haven't seen comparisons with as much difference in saturation as the shot at 8:10
Yep. If you look at 2:53 that exactly what I was doing and they were in the same profile with no adjustments made to them 🤯
Thanks for the review. Do you plan on reviewing the new Viltrox 16mm F1.8 lens that just came out? At $550 seems like a great buy.
Only if they send it to me. I do have a someone from Viltrox who has reached out so we may start seeing some
So Z, which one in your opinion is best for video shooting
24. Hands down. For what I’m Doing anyway
Isn't some of this the difference between a Z8 and Z9?
@@StuartAnderton not likely, the reason I do comparisons on these two cameras is because I shoot RAW and they are the same sensor and processor.
Love a good 24mm - looks like time to get another one... 🦘
M surprised you don’t have them all by now Roy!
Cool find! I was not expecting that.