my favorite scene of the entire movie, hes demonstrating to him that its is a whole different ball game in war with a live enemy shooting back then shooting a bottle, the difference between somebody whos been to war and who hasn't, brilliant scene
Harsh but necessary. These men were going to see actual combat, something the Colonel had seen in all its horrors. They had to be hardened, fast and seriously, something the Major didn't quite grasp.
The Major didn't grasp it because he didn't believe a colored regiment ever would be allowed to fight, even though they all wanted to...he saw it more as unrealistically getting their hopes up.
This is a great way to get them combat ready. A guy I knew in the Marines told me that he had to fix a weapon while his DI fired a rifle over his head. He had to learn to do everything while under fire, and not get distracted.
Must have been incredibly cumbersome having to go through all those steps to fire one shot. Shaw was a bit rough on the soldier, but it probably saved his life later in the film, when he needed to get a shot off quickly to kill an on rushing enemy soldier.
Yep, the typical civil war muzzle loader took 9 steps to reload. And for max speed it had to be done while standing. It must have been a nightmare to go through all those steps while people are shooting at you and your fellow soldiers are dropping dead all around you the whole time.
British troops during the Napoleonic wars could fire 3 to 4 (badly aimed) shots a minute. The French noted that the British were slow to attack but “impregnable in defence. Quick with their muskets... devilish quick with their muskets.”
One of the best scenes in the movie. Shaw was trying to show thge regiment you had to reload fast while hearing gunshots, or you were bound to get shot! Excellent movie; the best Civil War movie of all time!!!!!!!!!!
Harsh pressure aside, Shaw was basically informing Sharts and everyone that survival AND the outcome of a battle depended heavily on being able to reload faster than the opposing side. Because, in the age of Muzzle-Loaders, Accuracy would be useless on the front line if you were slow in reloading your weapon.
I saw this in school. Good movie..but I think this scene is kinda funny now. I cant take Matts acting seriously here when he plays as an officer..it doesnt really suit him. " Faster! DO iT!..DO IT!" In the movie, The Last Samurai, the rifle training scene was pretty good. Tom Cruise did alright there.
@NobodyThereAtAll also the army with the soldiers trained in reloading really quick can fire like possible 3 times faster than another army wich would result in not many casualties once they shoot back
Never thought about it before, but why does the Major keep his pistol loaded while in training? It seems risky but I really don’t know if this is accurate or not.
@NobodyThereAtAll yes thats true back then if u dint go too fast theres a chance ul just be dead if u dont reload fast the shoot then theres a huge chance theyl shoot you before you shoot them
@MondoBeno Yes sir. The standard Union weapon in the Union army was the Springfield .58 rifled musket. With it, a marksman could kill someone at 600 yards. Thats a range comparable to a modern M-16.
@@bobanderson6656 Coming back to the party. What about what I wrote is wrong? According to data-skilled marksmen(not sharpshooters) could reliably make hits at 500 yards. The maximum effective range listed, however, is 700 yards.
@@bobanderson6656 The M4 and M16 have an effective engagement range on individual targets of 550 meters (600 yards) using only ironsights. I can personally confirm that to be accurate. While some range estimation techniques are required to employ the weapon at that range, those techniques are trivial to teach to infantrymen.
By the civil war yeah they had rifled muskets it was the first war where almost all guns were rifled. But yeah no rifling you could miss after a range of 10 ft with some of those, especially pistols.
Harsh pressure aside, Shaw was basically informing Sharts and everyone that survival AND the outcome of a battle depended heavily on being able to reload faster than the opposing side. Because, in the age of Muzzle-Loaders, Accuracy would be useless on the front line if you were slow in reloading your weapon.
my favorite scene of the entire movie, hes demonstrating to him that its is a whole different ball game in war with a live enemy shooting back then shooting a bottle, the difference between somebody whos been to war and who hasn't, brilliant scene
Harsh but necessary. These men were going to see actual combat, something the Colonel had seen in all its horrors. They had to be hardened, fast and seriously, something the Major didn't quite grasp.
The Major didn't grasp it because he didn't believe a colored regiment ever would be allowed to fight, even though they all wanted to...he saw it more as unrealistically getting their hopes up.
More like he had to show them that being a good hunter or marksman and being a good SOLDIER takes different skills.
This is a great way to get them combat ready. A guy I knew in the Marines told me that he had to fix a weapon while his DI fired a rifle over his head. He had to learn to do everything while under fire, and not get distracted.
Must have been incredibly cumbersome having to go through all those steps to fire one shot. Shaw was a bit rough on the soldier, but it probably saved his life later in the film, when he needed to get a shot off quickly to kill an on rushing enemy soldier.
Yep, the typical civil war muzzle loader took 9 steps to reload. And for max speed it had to be done while standing. It must have been a nightmare to go through all those steps while people are shooting at you and your fellow soldiers are dropping dead all around you the whole time.
@@TheStapleGunKid That's why breech loaders were such a game changer. For the first time soldiers could reload while lying down or taking cover.
British troops during the Napoleonic wars could fire 3 to 4 (badly aimed) shots a minute. The French noted that the British were slow to attack but “impregnable in defence. Quick with their muskets... devilish quick with their muskets.”
“Teach them properly major...” you can see that Shaw wasn’t looking to take the 54th out of camp to be latrine diggers...
@bookkeeper57 Yes, he was actually helping them in doing this. Showing them that a soldier has to reload despite loud noise like shouts and gunfire.
One of the best scenes in the movie. Shaw was trying to show thge regiment you had to reload fast while hearing gunshots, or you were bound to get shot! Excellent movie; the best Civil War movie of all time!!!!!!!!!!
Harsh pressure aside, Shaw was basically informing Sharts and everyone that survival AND the outcome of a battle depended heavily on being able to reload faster than the opposing side.
Because, in the age of Muzzle-Loaders, Accuracy would be useless on the front line if you were slow in reloading your weapon.
They needed Sean Bean. Three shots a minute! That's soldiering!
Quickly Fah-Stah! FAH- STAH!!!!!! Fah-STAH!!
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I saw this in school. Good movie..but I think this scene is kinda funny now. I cant take Matts acting seriously here when he plays as an officer..it doesnt really suit him. " Faster! DO iT!..DO IT!"
In the movie, The Last Samurai, the rifle training scene was pretty good. Tom Cruise did alright there.
@NobodyThereAtAll also the army with the soldiers trained in reloading really quick can fire like possible 3 times faster than another army wich would result in not many casualties once they shoot back
similar with the last samurai...also by edward zwick
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Great movie!
i like this scene this is how you do it in the army
Never thought about it before, but why does the Major keep his pistol loaded while in training? It seems risky but I really don’t know if this is accurate or not.
Look at the time. No one ever knew what the enemy was thinking or what would happen. I think overall it was protocol; just to always be prepared.
heard that the actor who played Sharts really got hearing problems after that scene
LOL his eyes get all big
i like jupiter XD
@MondoBeno I believe thats a Smith .50, so it should be rifled.
@NobodyThereAtAll yes thats true back then if u dint go too fast theres a chance ul just be dead if u dont reload fast the shoot then theres a huge chance theyl shoot you before you shoot them
you're a good shot private
Good coach
faster!
It means to fire your weapon.
@MondoBeno Yes sir. The standard Union weapon in the Union army was the Springfield .58 rifled musket. With it, a marksman could kill someone at 600 yards. Thats a range comparable to a modern M-16.
Late to the party. The above is wrong. An average marksman would have no chance to hit a target that far. A skilled sniper taking his time - maybe.
@@bobanderson6656 Coming back to the party. What about what I wrote is wrong? According to data-skilled marksmen(not sharpshooters) could reliably make hits at 500 yards. The maximum effective range listed, however, is 700 yards.
@@bobanderson6656 The M4 and M16 have an effective engagement range on individual targets of 550 meters (600 yards) using only ironsights. I can personally confirm that to be accurate. While some range estimation techniques are required to employ the weapon at that range, those techniques are trivial to teach to infantrymen.
They should have used the prussian "Zündnadelgewehr" XD
So - now the private has hearing loss and those bullets are coming down, right?
Fun fact, the actor actually had hearing loss when they shot this scene
When did Ferris Bueller become such a stickler for discipline?
@mgs937, do it!
fire your weapon
Col. Shaw smelt poo in pants when he left.
Were they using rifled muskets? If the barrels aren't rifled, they wouldn't be accurate.
By the civil war yeah they had rifled muskets it was the first war where almost all guns were rifled. But yeah no rifling you could miss after a range of 10 ft with some of those, especially pistols.
Shaw could have approached this is a different manner.
He did not understand his men
He was making a point. There was a war going on. It was military training, not summer camp.
A Woke Wanker would have tried to sue for hurting his feelings...
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Harsh pressure aside, Shaw was basically informing Sharts and everyone that survival AND the outcome of a battle depended heavily on being able to reload faster than the opposing side.
Because, in the age of Muzzle-Loaders, Accuracy would be useless on the front line if you were slow in reloading your weapon.