Star Trek: Enterprise - An Aging T'Pol
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Karyn Archer takes Jonathan to see T'Pol.
Season 3, Episode 21 (E Squared)
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The last Star Trek series that looked and felt like Star Trek, in tone, look, character and storytelling.
And the 'haters' that crapped on ENT and still crapping on modern shows are half the reason we had such a void in the first place.
You should watch Strange New Worlds then to bring back the itch.
@@develynseether4426 You got that right!
Lol ok live in the past
In so many ways Enterprise knocked it out of the park. We fell in love with the characters. We were captivated by the stories. We never wanted it to end.
@@alfa-psi No. Me and my two dogs.
@@alfa-psi how rude and childish!
@@laurencelance586 What kind are they? I had 5 Border Collies. My first one was 1/2 Aussie,1/2 BC and I named her Gem-after the Empath on "TOS". The others were full-bred: Tess, Siobhan, JackBNimble (her son), Little Bo Peep (his girlfriend), and my first r/w, Gypsy Rose Lee (Bo's cousin and BFF). I was going to name both T'Ami, but Tess didn't like that name or respond to it and my family didn't like it and my niece liked the burlesque dancer's name better. So did my Gypsy-she hated dog clothes and would tear them off if dressed in sweaters, t's or shoes!
@@virginiaconnor8350 Two girl Dachshunds; Tipper and Elenor. Tipper survived cancer but passed of cancer after a long and spoiled rotten ( is there any other way?) life. I do miss her so.
Elenor is, as she has always been, an adorable imp.
I liked the first couple of seasons, but they went into time travel and aliens that were never mentioned in previous versions. They should've stuck to how the Federation was created and evolved.
So regarding the age: T'Pol mentioned that she was around 74 in the normal timeframe, which would make her 174 in this episode. For comparison: Sarek died age 203 and Spock died age 161.
t'pol stated she was born 2088. as of season 3 enterprise she would be 65.
add 117 years for the alterante timeline this old t'pol would be around 182.
and she looks very frail so it syncs up that vulcans live about 2x human life span. so
@@joeswanson733 except that Archer lived to be 140
@@ronniemaclaine5234 if we go by the wiki it say archer was born 2112 died 2245 so he lived to be 2245
@@joeswanson733 I think you mean a hundred and thirty-three years old
1. Only in Star Trek could a person die at 161 in the 33rd year after his birth or another celebrate his 73rd birthday 148 years after he was born.
2. Sarek probably would have lived longer if he hadn't gotten Bendii Syndrome.
3. I think Spock would have lived longer if it hadn't been a tribute to Leonard Nimoy.
I loved Enterprise. Amazing series.
"Maybe one day humans and Vulcans will be swapping chromosomes."
"The Vulcan high council would sooner believe in time travel."
The best of the Star Trek series.
No one liked this show when it first came out
I have such high regards for this show but somehow many haters.
@@cdizzle99z I did! Really enjoyed it.
I try to imagine these two are reuniting on Kirk's Enterprise which gives this scene way more impact much like when Data met Admiral McCoy.
It would be great! T'Pol has to be at least 200 standard years and perhaps older. Vulcan females have been known to live at least 250 to 300 standard years barring injury or Bendaii Syndrome or other mind illness.
Hell in some of the references Archer lived to a respectable 153 I think dying in his Connecticut home peacefully.
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T’pol and Spock.
@@deathstrike in the main cannon it said that archer lived until 2245 so he died at 133. (his brith year stated to be 2112)
t'pol unknown but assuming she lived to be 200 she would be dead by 2288. (since the wiki said her birth year is 2088)
in this episode E2 alternate timeline she would be about 182 years old and going by how frail elderly t'pol looks that seems to concur that vulcans have about 2x human lifespan.
spock died at 161. even earlier than his father sarek.
@@SKINWALKER Uh-oh. Somebody might've gotten jealous! Saavik, if you remember, is 1/2 Romulan and quite capable of emotion. Canon or not, I'm going by the 1st Saavik as she screamed and ripped out a chair and threw it at a conference wall in the "WOK" novel.
@@joeswanson733 Archer, being born in 2112. Rush, the band from 1976: "We are the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx"
One of my favourite episodes of ENT - great character developments/explorations in an alternate timeline.
Seeing this scene broke my heart.😢
I got a hitch in my throat and tears in my eyes. He should have hugged her, that is what she wanted.
Maybe, he thought she was too frank by then. She was shaky, most likely from the trellium that poisoned her over time. I hope she didn't have to stay in her qtrs. all the time, but she was cpt.(mentioned 😅in "Rise of the Federation") so the crew most likely obeyed her, even though Lorian didn't always agree with her. Here, he said Trip died when he was 14. T'Pol was also 14 when her father was said to have died-or disappeared.
Enterprise was the best of Star Trek!
I really enjoyed Enterprise!
I thought the best scene in this episode is when the old T'Pol meets the young T'Pol.
They do that a lot - young Spock meeting old Spock, etc. Their obsession with "time paradoxes" is really annoying and lazy, and gets in the way of hard SF.
T'pol?!... You've...aged well.
I'm sure there are reasons why this version of T'Pol turned out this way, and the T'Pol we know aged better because she didn't remain on a starship for a century, to say the least
@@teleportedbreadfor3days The T'Pol "we know" was still "young" when we last saw her. We don't know what she'll be like when she's a hundred or so years older.
@@SR-iy4gg I'm not sure this story-or 'Twilight'-really happened. The end was resolved and things got back to 'normal', but T'Pol did ask in the former," But why do we remember it?"
Verrry easy to see how she was a model before acting.. daaannnggg beautiful woman ♀️♀️🤗💕❣️❤️❤️💕💣🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
Jolene Blalock WAS DOPE IN THIS SERIES!!!
She was the best of both worlds...hottest Vulc ever, and second best portrayal of Vulcan after (Nimoy) Spock.
"That would be awkward..."
Who's heart would break more, yup.
We need to start a petition for a reboot of Enterprise. Fantastic cast and they got the Star Trek camaraderie perfect. It's so, so much better than Discovery.
They would ruin it, like they did with Discovery. It ain't worth it. Leave the past as it is, and cherish it for what it was.
Unfortunatley the writting would be different Carolyn if they did a re-boot now. It could end up like Discovery in a lot of ways. 😔
Discovery sucked ass
Next to Voyager - Star Trek Enterprise was my favorite series.
Indeed! Extremely underrated
Did you watch DS9
Pre Kelvin series ranked in (my) order- STOS,Voyager, STNG ,Enterprise and DS9. I know I have probably committed a mortal sin of Trekdom but it is my opinion.
Next to "TOS", "Enterprise" was my favourite. I did like "TNG", " Voyager", and " DS9" a little bit), but I liked "Star Trek Continues" better than "DS9".
question is would trip still hit that?
Maybe she was in love with archer as well as trip?
Respect , loyalty and some love for Archer.😉
Do old Vulcans allow themselves to feel emotions because they become too weak to be a danger
@Deimos Yep, it's with Picard and Sarek.
Spock felt that in his old age
Don't forget that T'Pol was also suffering from the long term effects of trellium exposure.
Old Spock was emotional because he chose to reconcile his Vulcan and human halves. Sarek was emotional because of a disease, Bendii Syndrome. Old T'Pol is emotional because of her trellium exposure and culturally adapting to living with humans.
@@Howyaduing I always thought as when he was older that Spock was more comfortable embracing emotion AND logic.
Which episode was this ? Was this set in the future with Archer time traveling ? But if so , then how is Trip also there ? Hmmmm
ENT season 3 Episode "E2"
I'm glad that CGI is doing away with those gawdawful old man/woman prosthetics
will still have the issue of actors just not being able to play an "old person" regardless of CGI or prosthetics. she wouldnt have been bad if she wasnt trying to be decrepit. I mean Leonard Nimoy was old and he didnt doddle around Joleen.
@@Shiirow hah! true! Having just watched the Irishman, it also looks like old actors can't play young people either!
@@Shiirow Jolene, Jo-lene, please spell my name Jolene!
@@gregp103 I was more worried I might pronounce her last name wrong. Is Blalock pronounced like Blaylock? Or Blahlock? There's a song called "Jolene" (by Dolly Pardon), but I heard she hates it. I can't say I blame her because when I mentioned my name around Christmas, I'd always hear "Yes, Virginia. There is a Santa Claus" as if I was 3 years old. I'm not and believe only in the folklore of Santa Claus as a custom.
@danieljliversLXXXIX T'Pol would probably say "eventually".
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Who's ship is she In?
The second NX-01
@@Syberactive ah ic
Same enterprise as his only older
Ramzi has a better answer actually lol
The alternate timelime nx enterprise where they went into the nebula/wormhole and ended up in the past. Enterprise becomes a generational ship with the original crews great grandchildren trying to complete its original mission
Wow! T'Pol without make up!
Is she still suffering from the effects of Terellium or something worse?
Probably still the Trellium.
@@Syberactive Couldn't T'Pau have healed her of that too when she healed her of the Pa'nar Syndrome? Or were her powers limited too?
This is an alternate version of T'Pol, who accidently travelled back in time along with the crew of the NX-01.
@@FekLeyrTarg Where is that? I like "ST" fiction, even though it's often not canon any more than "Discovery". I used to write "ST" stories-no good excuse I guess, but want to start again-most are still in a drawer in my room. That's what David McCallum said about his book "Once A Crooked Man". Not "ST" but a drama. Now, he's Ducky in "NCIS".
Yes. See what the long-unintended consequences of addiction can do over time, that is if you survive them? T'Pol was lucky to have Dr. Phlox then, but even he couldn't get rid if all the Trellium in her. T'Pau might've healed her of the Pa'nar Syndrome, but I wonder if the 2 mixed together somewhere before then. Besides just affecting her brain, adrenal glands, and immunity, how did the disease manifest her symptoms? She seemed able to do her job and other than headaches-which I thought she learned from her human friends how to get out of things-and the ocassional bouts of temper that seemed to come from her Trellium addiction, we don't get a clear picture how the disease affected her. I know it was an analogy of AIDS; but was it supposed to have the same kind of symptoms? I would think it affected T'Pol more neurologically since Pa'nar was less of a sexual disease. Even so, I 'm glad T'Pau knew the truth.
Space the final frontier These Are the Voyages of the Starship Yorktown
I'm more surprised Tpol looks so old, considering sarek and spock looked fairly good until their 200's
The trellium addiction would take its toll.
Whatever happened to her? Straight to video hell, sadly.
Jolene Blalock no longer acts. She left the business years ago.
@@markirizarry4851 What is she doing now? I was hoping she'd play in a new "Enterprise". I can't see anyone else playing her but Jolene. My niece Shannon Maiola could. She looks good in pointed ears and has acted too.
She had a 19 year acting career. Married with 3 kids....focusing on being a mom now, most likely.
@@samsignorelli Jolene Blalock could have done a heck of a lot worse than to spend a few years co-starring in the entire run of a national cable network series and then some. She did some really admirable work as T'Pol. ST characters like Vulcans, Seven Of Nine, and Data have kind of a narrow gap they have to squeeze all their acting through; they don't (or at least don't usually) have the full range of human expression available. I never met Blalock but I met Spiner and got a chance to tell him how impressed I was with what he was able to do in character and I'd tell Blalock the same.
Is she still alive in "TOS" time?
That'd be cool. Maybe?
Well If i remember right, she's at least twice as old as Archer in Enterprise...At least. If her and Trip did end up having a family together in the late 22nd century, It is possible she could have lived into TOS since Vulcans can live around 200 years If I recall correctly.
It might have been interesting if Saavik met T'Pol at the Monastery or Retreat Centre-or somewhere on Vulcan-maybe after the others left. They might have found differences and similarities as well that could have helped each other (or not).
Jonathan archer lives to 133 and vulcans live twice as long as humans so I'd hazard a guess that yes she does survive to tos
She was to officiate at Spock's wedding in the original Star Trek series, as I recall.
I wondered, is it the same actress playing an elderly character....?
Yyupp, the elegant & enchanting Blalock.
Wow, she didn't look so hot when she got old. I'm surprised they didn't eject her from the ship's roster!
She Looks like Ambassador Soval.🤔
Is that reilly Jolene Ballock.
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Good old gold fish attention span entertainment.
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I tend to agree, as if there weren't enough stories to be found in an entire galaxy, unlike the episodes in the original series wherein the story was actually well thought, it later became a device, somewhat like the overuse of the Borg
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Still hot...
She'll know what it means.
By the way, i still don't believe in time travel
She might be old. I’d still do er...
Logic dictates that her vulcan boobs will be flappy and saggy
Wow, these time travel situations become nerd heaven. Star Trek would have been better off just avoiding the whole time travel gimmick, but I guess the writers needed to use it as a crutch when they ran out of ideas.
Your insight is a testament to your intellectual stature.
T'Pol and the doctor once discussed a decayed tooth being unlikely at her then age of only 63, so she'd be somewhere in her 160's.
I had grandparents on both sides of both genders live into their very high 90's and low hundreds back in the 1960's-70's, so it's not that unusual.
Unfortunately, average life expectancy in the US is falling, thanks to our inability to separate medical care from politics.
"average life expectancy" 90% of people have no idea of how that is calculated. Caveat this is from CNN 2018 "The U.S. is expected to fall from 43rd to 64th in the world, with an average life expectancy of 79.8 years. Even though that’s a year longer than in 2016," SO! As of 2018 our life expectancy was EXTENDING! Commie News Network, needing SOMETHING to prove OMB created this BS. It is interesting to note that historically, people reached the 80's, 90's, even the Century mark. While the expectancy was 40 years or whatever. Infant mortality, and wars play hob with the expectations. If we would take into consideration the number of abortions in the current calculations...hmmm 50 years or less? So before you broadcast bullshit, do some research.
Eat more organic food, and steer clear of processed anything, its the food that helps you live longer, the healthier you eat the better
@@Rink03 Asbestos and lead are organic so is cow shit
As if medical care from years even decades ago were somehow better than today's. .. Geez people. 🙄
@@brucewelty7684 one out of three is right - Asbestos is a silicate, not a carbon compound. Lead does not contain carbon. Both are inorganic. As for the third... well, there you know your shit.
how poignant! What happened, did he time travel?
Watch 'E2' if possible.
@@virginiaconnor8350 what season and episode ?
@@frankmontez6853 3rd season episode 21
I love that show but sweet God she looks like a puppet in all that make up XD that was not their best work...
She looks like a humanoid Yoda.
The show was great, except they dragged the whole Xindi thing out WAY too long. Also... the opening song was terrible. I would cringe every time it started, and would mute the sound on the show. Seriously, it was god awful, and put me in a bad mood when the show started.
I actually liked the song, but I agree with you about the Xindi storyline. Kind of gave up on the show after that. Might look for a box set on DVD and give it another go some time..
This show should have latest another 3 seasons at least there was soooo much more they could have done if given the chance trip shouldn't have been killed off don't know or understand why it was cancelled sad sad sad 😢
I hope she did not suffer through that same ailment Spock's father, Savik, had in Next Generation.
*Sarek.
Saavik is the female vulcan officer from the TOS films.
@@callumunga5253 Sorry about that and thanks.
pretty sure it's not Bendai Syndrome.
She was suffering from Trellium addiction. Sarek had Bendi syndrome.