6.5 Creedmoor 120gr CX Hornady Outfitter Ballistics Gel Ammo Test

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  • 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady Outfitter 120 grain CX ammo ballistics gel test fired from a Ruger American with 22 inch barrel.
    Range gear: masonoutdoors.com
    Leather gear: www.masonleather.com
    All shots are fired from a distance of 100 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios with this caliber.
    I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballistics.com that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
    While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
    With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion and muzzle velocity.
    For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
    Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
    Bullet velocity is measured using a ProChronoPal chronograph set approximately 7’ from the shooting bench.
    I am fully aware that a chronograph measuring bullet velocity from 7’ away from the muzzle is going to register a slower velocity than if velocity were measured directly at the muzzle, but that difference is going to be so small as to be all but irrelevant in regards to comparison of actual measured velocity versus factory stated velocity.
    My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
    The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
    All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional.
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  • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
    @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Před měsícem +3

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    • @Outlaw_Hubcap270
      @Outlaw_Hubcap270 Před měsícem

      Can you make a cartilage cuff with a rebel flag on it

    • @delawarex8556
      @delawarex8556 Před měsícem

      Do you think we could see PPU 300 grn sjsp out of the .44 mag? Cheap and cycles in most levers I do believe.

    • @delawarex8556
      @delawarex8556 Před měsícem +1

      Also thanks for the content. You helped my friend with his 45 70 choice

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 Před měsícem

    I wasn't expecting as much out of this as it produced. Looks pretty good.

  • @oncall21
    @oncall21 Před měsícem

    This stuff digs deep! Great video Mason and thanks for sharing!

  • @hawkcheese3494
    @hawkcheese3494 Před 21 dnem

    Video is done well. No fluff, good editing.

  • @william16845
    @william16845 Před měsícem

    I appreciate your content..for my creedmoor im loading up sierra 130 tipped game kings for this upcoming deer season.i have been considering a copper monolithic recently though.

  • @jstephen45
    @jstephen45 Před měsícem

    Great performance from these! I might pick them if I needed 6.5 cm for a multiple species hunt. Love your channel!

    • @glennllewellyn7369
      @glennllewellyn7369 Před měsícem +1

      I'm hearing you - but I'm just not sold on the slower 6.5's if you already have a larger faster caliber or a .223 for smaller stuff.
      Rather get some better glass for the money.
      Australia

  • @JohnNowicki-xj6nb
    @JohnNowicki-xj6nb Před měsícem

    I know you state you normally aren’t so concerned with velocity, but I appreciate that you still consider it in your testing. From what I understand Hornady suggests an impact velocity of 2000 fps to achieve 1.5X expansion, so with a muzzle velocity of 2700 fps that is absolutely something to consider at longer ranges.
    Barnes minimum impact velocities are considerably lower - around 1500-1600 fps depending on caliber and weight.

  • @alexanderjump5225
    @alexanderjump5225 Před měsícem

    I love your videos. I base my ammo choices off of your testing. My brother can we please get some 300 win mag testing soon? Norma whitetail and bondstrike!

  • @rynerenzaglia8006
    @rynerenzaglia8006 Před měsícem

    Great video

  • @jimmiebuckler997
    @jimmiebuckler997 Před měsícem +9

    Clean the bore before switching to mono.

    • @TheAcesShow
      @TheAcesShow Před měsícem +2

      I agree. CX tends to need a cleaning less though, its actually not a mono but an alloy, however it is homogeneous. Ive had good success with them even eithout cleaning in some rifles, others needed it.

    • @reefread1234
      @reefread1234 Před měsícem

      Whats the reasoning behind that anytime a bullet is to be carried it should get its own clean barrel

    • @doylethorn9251
      @doylethorn9251 Před měsícem +1

      It's not "anytime" it's just with the solid copper or alloy. It is suggested you clean out the guilding metal from standard jacketed bullets before using the solids. The solids cause higher pressure because they are harder and the metal can't flow properly into the bullet grooves. This is what affects accuracy.

    • @snowplow7883
      @snowplow7883 Před měsícem

      Clean to bare metal bore, explanation as to why is on the back CR10 bottle.

  • @ryewaldman2214
    @ryewaldman2214 Před 10 dny

    I'd really love to see you do the berger 156 eol, a nosler trophy grade accubond long range, and a barnes vortx lr127 lrx in this 6.5 CM. It would be really informative to see how these "long range expanding" loads would compare to the 143 eldx ph and the federal 130 terminal ascents.

  • @JeremyGibson-ni5uu
    @JeremyGibson-ni5uu Před měsícem +2

    Really interested to see how the 129 sst does. I really like the federal terminal accent , tht 120 grain load is impressive

  • @RMM--uv7uk
    @RMM--uv7uk Před měsícem +3

    Can you please do PRC .

  • @tufelhunden5795
    @tufelhunden5795 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the testing. These mono metal bullet shot just as poorly, as far as expansion, are like shooting a flat metplat bullet from a 30-30 or 45-70. Sure it punches through anything but is it a good bullet to hunt with?

  • @brandonjett16
    @brandonjett16 Před měsícem +1

    Shooting all copper bullets clean ur barrel as wat was stated below for better accuracy make sure u clean it real good

  • @brickhammerSS
    @brickhammerSS Před 29 dny

    Love that paint job on your rifle. Sorry to sound stupid but i gotta ask, what do you use for the pattern? Did you do a video on it?

  • @ATL_Rider79
    @ATL_Rider79 Před měsícem +2

    This stuff better be amazing for the price..

  • @shawnvick9902
    @shawnvick9902 Před měsícem

    nice gun

  • @michaelhollier
    @michaelhollier Před měsícem

    Thank you for doing the CX !!
    Was that 100 yards??
    Keep On Keeping On !!

  • @travishat8760
    @travishat8760 Před měsícem +1

    This is the only ammo I use. My buddy let me field test the CX bullet in 140 grain. Put 2 deer down last year from my new 6.5 with it. Wonder what the price point difference is for the ELDX vs CX?

  • @JoePeters1
    @JoePeters1 Před měsícem

    Have you used Sako Deerhead ammo? Very little reviews available but I am assuming it's great on heavier animals. Just asking around...

  • @Dfleuryoutdoors
    @Dfleuryoutdoors Před měsícem +4

    I had similar results testing the barnes 120 ttsx. They only opened up to .45" at a 100 yards. The downside to lots of penetration, is a skinny wound channel. My father has shot 5 deer now with them and they all ran quite some distance while barely any blood trail. Pretty much just a quarter sized hole punched through them.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Před měsícem +1

      Certainly seems to be the case a lot of the time

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před měsícem

      It seems with monos the best bet is to find the lightest weight possible and push it as fast as you can. Cant do that tho with factory ammo, obviously. In 6.5CM, they really should have loaded it with 100g. Heck, i load my 270win with the 110g ttsx. Its movin on. Lol

    • @Dfleuryoutdoors
      @Dfleuryoutdoors Před měsícem

      @John_Redcorn_ yea the factory 6.5 stuff is pretty anemic, a 120 at 2800 fps is pretty dam slow. I shoot 125's in my 308 at 3100 fps. You don't need much bullet weight with the mono's to get good penetration.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před měsícem

      @@Dfleuryoutdoors the 110s are screamin at around 3400 out of my 270 😎

    • @Dfleuryoutdoors
      @Dfleuryoutdoors Před měsícem

      @@John_Redcorn_ how do they perform on game at that speed?

  • @anthonyfairbanks2952
    @anthonyfairbanks2952 Před měsícem

    Do some 7mm-08 testing

  • @tubbyshvfd9110
    @tubbyshvfd9110 Před měsícem

    I would be curious about accuracy

  • @Yetified_Mayhem
    @Yetified_Mayhem Před měsícem

    I'm wondering if I can get this 150g load to perform well out of my Ruger compact 308. I want to run copper, but not sure velocity will be up enough.

    • @derekmcmurry
      @derekmcmurry Před měsícem +2

      What is your max distance? Some years ago a guy posted a video regarding a Barnes TSX, either 150gr or 165gr, not expanding on an elk. As it turned out I think it was a long shot. I've also heard bullets like a TSX at 300 and beyond act like full metal jackets. I have no personal experience with a TSX at that distance but I do with TTSX and they worked just fine. I know this video is on the CX by Hornady but same concept.
      With monolithics I almost always load light for cartridge. I'm using the 130 TTSX in my 308s

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před měsícem

      Drop down to 130g or even 110g. The rule of thumb with monos is to drop 1-2 steps below “normal” weight.

  • @derekmcmurry
    @derekmcmurry Před měsícem +1

    Did you happen to test 160 grain in 7PRC?

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Před měsícem

      The PRC cartridges are way, way down the road

    • @derekmcmurry
      @derekmcmurry Před měsícem +1

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather Oh ok. I have a Tikka T3x 7PRC shooting that Outfitter ammo really well, one hole cloverleaf 3 shot groups frequently. I need to clock them. If I draw cow elk for this season it's one of the rifles going with me

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 Před měsícem +1

    Has anyone found the CX load to be accurate?

    • @leeturner3143
      @leeturner3143 Před měsícem

      Consistent 0.7 to 0.8 MoA from Tikka T3X CTR in 6.5CM. Not a match load but then not designed to be. YMMV.

    • @mr.mr.3301
      @mr.mr.3301 Před měsícem

      @@leeturner3143 I’m a tikka a fanboy. Do you hunt with that heavy thing?

    • @tbo2307
      @tbo2307 Před měsícem

      0.5 MOA from my Blaser R8 in 6,5x55 NOR. Have 2900 fps from a 21 barrel.

    • @reruiz85
      @reruiz85 Před 6 dny +1

      .25 MOA out of Browning Xbolt, 6.5 Hornady outfitter 120gr

  • @yomomma107
    @yomomma107 Před měsícem

    I've used this ammo in 300 win mag

  • @christaylor77723
    @christaylor77723 Před měsícem

    Start with a completely cleaned and stripped barrel before switching over to copper

  • @nathanadrian7797
    @nathanadrian7797 Před měsícem +1

    I am not very familiar with the CX bullet, but I would consider a close range shot that only mushrooms back 1/3 of the way to be a fail. Will that bullet open up at all at 300 yds.? On weight retention, it sounds great, but you can easily see that the mushroom is packed with ballistic gel! I think you need to remove that gel to get a true weight retention number, which I bet will still be 95% or better, but with the gel, it is a little skewed. Good job on the testing.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Před měsícem

      I get all the gel out I can with a pick and tweezers, it’s a lot harder to remove than it may appear, especially when the petals curl like that. What remains is extremely negligible weight wise.

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Před měsícem

      gel weighs almost nothing compared to the copper or lead

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Před měsícem

      The CX is basically the updated version of the GMX. Oddly enough, the older GMX had a better BC 🤷‍♂️

    • @nathanadrian7797
      @nathanadrian7797 Před měsícem

      @@WayStedYou do you reload?

    • @nathanadrian7797
      @nathanadrian7797 Před měsícem

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather Fair enough, you do a very good job! Thank you for you videos.

  • @andrewfischer1311
    @andrewfischer1311 Před měsícem

    That velocity is really disappointing. 150 average fps slower than stated and a 75 fps swing?

  • @user-cb1fv5hf1z
    @user-cb1fv5hf1z Před měsícem +1

    Hornady marketing lies again.

  • @parshafarahi172
    @parshafarahi172 Před měsícem

    In real world these acts just like full metal jackets 😢