A Winter's Ball/Helpless vs. Satisfied
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2020
- I liked seeing all the little details in Satisfied that referenced the previous two songs, so I decided to compare them side by side! They don't line up perfectly and I had to do some edits, but that's to be expected. They're only humans. I considered having A Winter's Ball/Helpless play on one ear and Satisfied on the other but I figured it would've been too distracting with it starting, stopping, and skipping.
Once again, I'd like to keep my innards inside my fleshsuit, I don't own these songs or clips. They belong to everyone's favorite corporate overlord, Disney. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
The number of times Helpless has to pause while Satisfied just has Angelica singing her thoughts as quickly as she can shows just how fast Angelica thinks. She's talking as fast as is humanly possible, and normal time still has to pause for us to follow her.
I notice that before Alexander met Eliza, Angelica had the time to sing because he was all to herself but the moment leading up to Alex and Eliza meeting, she begins to rap symbolizing that maybe she needed to get all her thoughts out about how she feels for Alexander to herself before they get married. Also in satisfied when the letters don’t go to Eliza its like she had Alexander to herself again and she begins to sing
Cool!
I can say she overthinks🤷🏾♂️
@@Anne-sj2kc You’re right she does start rapping after meeting Hamilton woah
Truee
Satisfied’s choreography was so hard for the team to learn.
After finishing Helpless, were told “you know what you did just then? yeah, now you have to do it backwards.” Especially with the turntable floor.
I believe the turntable helped so much in doing the scenes in reverse and go forward again.
B Casey okay I'm actually confused if I'm just looking at the wrong parts but to me it looks like they're doing the same choreo but just do a different song? Like they're not actually going in reverse
My-An the only part they go in reverse is when she says “rewind”.
@@my-an9883 Yeah. They are not actually doing it in reverse. People are bonkers.
Also, the stage rotating in concentric rings has been around for decades. Many of these actors may have seen a similar setup before.
jagranite Exactly- Cats and Les Mis have turntables and have been around forever.
Eliza: IN love
Angelica: IN pain
Peggy: vibINg
The entire musical in three lines
Eliza is in love and pain bc hamiltion cheated on her and philip died
Peggy is the vibing master of this musical
PEGGY IS A QUEEN
Peggy's arms at 0:45 and 3:50-3:53
The fact that Helpless is Eliza's perspective and Satisfied is Angelica's is even more apparent when you see the way Eliza views Alex when Angelica introduces them: charming, confident, suave. Meanwhile in satisfied Alex looks awkward and unsure. Like he was confused as to why Angelica introduced Eliza to him when he and Angelica had been getting on so well.
The smallest details and this is still a masterpiece.
You can tell in satisfied when he says Skylar? He had more a questioning tone then in helpless I was like 😯
@@skyenby9247 this hurts me so much 🤕
I did NOT even notice that!!! Thank you for showing this amazing detail
+in helpless Eliza was so smitten she didn't notice Angelica's feelings and Hamilton's flaws. :(
I am obsessed with these two songs. In satisfied you can see that Hamilton has true chemistry with Angelica but in Helpless Eliza was way more into him. Hamilton is confused that Angelica lead him to Eliza but he heard Schuyler and knew he had to take his shot. These songs are just heartbreaking to me because you know what Angelica is giving up and what Eliza is receiving.
The bits where Washington straightens up Hamilton's shirt and Hamilton shows him his ring, I die.
4:40 if you want a stamp :)
Thanks for the stamp. I was looking for someone in the comments that also noticed Washington and Hamilton.
I never noticed that before. I should probably focus on more of the details when I rewatch the movie again.
ahaha it was great
Awwww that’s so cute
This is why when the cast was asked what was the hardest part of the show, Ramos said "Satisfied" because they had just done "Helpless" and then had to turn around and do the same thing in reverse.
I don't get it. in reverse?
@@Oratual_ doing everything backwards and not messing up is extremely hard and he had just did it forward which made it even harder
@@Oratual_ They did the choreography for Helpless backwards for the "rewind" section in Satisfied. This video shows Helpless played in reverse (rewinding it) so you can see how the choreography matched up to them physically doing it backwards for Satisfied.
@@MsBeth62880 omg thank u. I kinda new this info but I didn't know that the the video on the right was on reverse. I get it now.
@@MsBeth62880 Yep just for the rewind part. Everything else is basically the same order lol
This HAS to be the best casting in the entire world.
broadway cast no doubt is the best Hamilton cast.
100%! Every single person in this is incredible! Like the parts were written for them!
@@MrsSkitzonamission Fr tho-
@@saintm1859 Exactly. I really love this cast a lot! They picked the right ppl for their roles in this spectacular.
Well they are the originals, I think, so of course they are the best
It always amazed me how easily Hamilton was able to focus his attention from one sister to the next. Angelica knew this but Eliza is none the wiser. She’s smitten as soon as she sees him but Hamilton just wanted the Schuyler name and he didn’t care which sister he got it from in the beginning.
Men
ill take both anyday
Burr: “A winter's ball and the Schuyler sisters are the envy of all. Yo, if you can marry a sister, you're rich, son.”
Hamilton: “Is it a question of if, Burr, or which one?”
That actually pains me to think about. I just hope that he grew to actually love Eliza.....
@@annacakes2812 Considering the rest of the musical (with the exception of the Reynolds-Hamilton affair) it seems to me that he really learned to truly love Eliza.
My favourite part is when the ensemble are bringing the letters. In Helpless, Eliza collects them, but in Satisfied, Angelica sees all these letters coming from Hamilton, but they aren't for her. It's like the ensemble are teasing her with these letters (something you see again with Burr in Your Obedient Servant).
What a good catch!
Yes. I was also thinking of the contrast between the two. How in Helpless, when Angelica takes the letters it's in a playful manner saying ''I'm just sayin', if you really loved me, you would share him'' but in Satisfied she says ''If I tell her that I love him...'' revealing her true feelings at that moment.
I almost didn't include that bit! Originally that was still in the paused state but I was watching it going "wait. Is there something paralleling this part in Helpless?" and then I found it and was like "OHHHH"
Woah
Time stamp please?
This just shows how important lighting in a scene is, even when the choreography is the exact same, you would have barely noticed Angelica in helpless. But in satisfied it’s always clear that Angelica is the one singing, this scene is focused on Angelica.
Additionally the way that people dance in the shadows (and also how you hear the distorted “ladies” in the beginning”) adds to the dreamlike quality of the scene!!
@@ClownOwO do you have the timestamp??
@@petrichortea 1:12
@@ClownOwO a just heard that as I read this comment
Yup
I’ve never noticed how she describes their first meeting as setting a flame in her and you can literally hear the sound of a match being lit when he kiss her hand at 1:56. The details throughout this entire scene are just genius.
on the Disney+ version on the subtitles it says that it’s the partygoers gasping from when he kisses her hand so I think that’s what it is :)
@@martajoaquim2959 that’s what I thought
Interesting perspective
That's beautiful.
Plus the light goes a bit orange-yellowish or a bit brighter so whenever I watch it, I can literally see Jasmine (Peggy) and Daveed(Lafayette) just standing there together in complete darkness
when angelica sings "at least my dear eliza's his wife, at least i keep his eyes in my life" while on the side with helpless eliza has the veil on always makes me want to cry.
ALWAYS MAKES ME CRY
Peggy jamming by herself with a glass of wine is the most relatable part
when :o edit nvm i saw haha i love that
What part is that???
Judith Joyce Udan 3:50
Oh God ! I've watched it 10 times in three weeks and I still discover new details, and I particularly love that one 😂
Those are letters, not a glass of wine
I love Peggy's little dance at 3:51
Who doesn’t, really
I didn't even notice that, I love it xD
Same!! :-)
She’s a queen
I saw this while watching with my sister. we both died
At 3:32 you can see Hamilton looking at Angelica, which symbolises that he already liked her. But then when Angelica introduced him to her sister, he was forced to look at Eliza. I think in his point of view he noticed that Angelica doesn't like him (because she introduced Eliza to him) so he just gave up and decided to pursue Eliza 😭
i feel so bad for angelica she put her feelings aside for her sister to be happy but she never thought of who alexander would be happy with. I love how she was trying to be a good big sister tho
@Yay Yay: There is debate about that. Ron Chernow's biography of Hamilton inspired Lin to write the musical, "Hamilton.". In his book, Chernow makes it plain that Hamilton and Angelica were extremely flirtatious, to the point that many thought they were having an affair.
@Yay Yay I’m prettyy sure they both liked each other as a brother and sister would. I mean just take a look at the letters exchanged between them. Sure, it’s playful and a bit of flirtatious but most of the time they regard each other as brother and sister. Not to mention, Angelica was married years before Alexander and Elizabeth.
@@rosesrosesandroses1201 Nah, they didnt like each other. Also, Eliza deserved someone better. But i dont feel bad for Angelica, she did the right thing.
Their relationship was more just "attraction"
Historically, around this time Angelica already had a husband when she met Hamilton
I love Peggy's smile when the men sing "to the Revolution". It gives her a little more character, like she's the one sister that cares about the Revolutionary war.
Funny enough, she was smiling at her irl boyfriend, who played John Laurens.
@@dontelittlejohn7265 Damnit. Couldn’t Peggy have this one thing??
@@Idontexisthihi001 In real life, Eliza was actually the one who actively supported the war effort
Isn't Peggy the one who dislikes "violence on [their] shore" in Schuyler Sisters?
@@saphira4366 I think she says "It's bad enough daddy wants to go to war.", too.
Her pained "To your union" as they kiss in front of her is so heartbreaking. She's such a good sister
It sends chills through me
satisfied is my favorite song in the show, and this particular scene is the one where I got dem chills :3
Yeah that part hurt the most!!
@@JackKoyote this scene was the first to make me cry
And the hope that you provide
Peggy was on beat for helpless and satisfied with that shoulder dance.
bolt ikr
She was better in helpless but I love Satisfied
That shoulder dance is the best
3:50?
I liked the sync with "if I told her that I loved him she'd be silently resigned" and "if you really loved me you would share him"
Honestly I joke all the time that he should've just gone to the summer house and had a threesome with his wife and sister in law instead of having the affair 😂
Holy fuck.
I love the part at 4:50 where she’s screwing her eyes shut as she sings while Hamilton and Eliza kiss right in front of her, I know it’s at least partly to help with the singing but it also feels like while she’s happy that Eliza’s happy, it pains her to remember that she bought Eliza’s happiness with her own and she can’t bear to watch
wow.
I see what your saying, but that was partly because that note was hard to get out
I thought that she was screaming in heartbreak in that particular note. But yours work too.
poor angelica.
My favorite part is that when Eliza says "Angelica wants to form a harem" in Helpless and in Satisfied Angelica says "If I tell her that I love him" at the same part. It makes me think that Angelica confessed to Eliza and Eliza just took it as a joke and Angelica never corrected her.
Supposedly the part where she says, 'I'm just saying if you really love me, you would share him' was taken from an actual letter that Angelica had written to Eliza.
Listen to First Burn. Eliza knew...
OMG
I never noticed that. It’s I N S A N E the effort put into this.
Shell Mcleod this is true. Angelica wrote to Eliza and said that she loved Eliza’s husband 👀
Wow cool!
Did anyone else notice that in Helpless, there is more blue lighting, maybe symbolizing Eliza. In Satisfied, there is more pink lighting which could be symbolizing Angelica
Yes! I would expect this. Lightning like this isn’t very common, a good example is Heathers, in the scene where Veronica yells at Chandler outside the party, there’s a dumpster fire that’s red (Chandler’ color) while the rest of the lighting is blue (Veronica) while the red is taken over by the blue to show Veronica overruling Chandler- something similar.
wow sherlock
Sbh // lol
Aphrodite
Hello my friend. What a surprise seeing your comment here
Rylie the wolf LMAO
The line "he was right he will never be satisfied" hits more knowing about the affair later
She actually says he was right I will never be satisfied which is a follow up to what he told her when they introduced each other when he told her she was like him
from "the reynolds panphlet": "put what we had aside, i'm standing at her side, you could never be satisfied, god, i hope you're satisfied"
This is the moment that got me hooked on Hamilton. Up until this point I was like "yeah, ok, it's cool I guess but I don't the get hype" and then Renee came and started singing "I remember that night I might just regret that night..." and I was completely blown away. I pretty much love all of the songs and performances, but this is my absolute favorite. Can't believe I watched years of The Good Wife where Renee had a small part (can you say underused?) to only find out how amazing and talented she is in 2020.
Same here! I liked King George's parts but didn't really get the appeal of having rap songs in a musical. Then I saw satisfied. That just changed everything for me.
Literally same here
Same! It was the tea for me 😂😂😂 nah but for real it was the sisterly bond like the lengths she would go for her sister ❤
OMGOSH SAME
Same!! I enjoyed George but this entire number blew me away. The song, the staging, the storytelling, everything.
When I heard them say “ladies”in the background I realized they were repeating everything
I noticed it because of Burr, Hamilton, and Laurens and that dance move with all three of them moving like they did when they said "Ladies" before. I honestly didn't hear them say the "ladies" part again. But, I just liked that particular move and so it caught my attention.
Daaaamn I just noticed they do say "LADIES"on satisfied...this is amazing!
which part did it happen?
Nova Fury18 1:13
DracoSerpentisCruor
Omg thats crazy!! I thought it was just a random background sound bit now it makes so mich sense
when renee says “TO THE GROOM,....TO THE BRIDE” it gets me every time
Yes! In the end you can hear the difference in her voice, like she’s choking while singing “To the bride”
I love when she sings “may u always be satisfied”
Yesss!
Me too
Same
"Where are you taking me?"
"I'm about to change your wife"
😔
By all means lead the way.
“He will never be satisfied....”
I mean.
*Shes not wrong*
Love how deep down they knew they were meant to be. Maybe soul mates are always meant to meet and streak their lights elsewhere, the blessing is to have met.
FIRST burn Starts plzaying
No no say no to this
WELCOME FOLKS, TO THE ADAMS ADMINISTRATION
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In Helpless, you can faintly hear Angelica sing "rewind" as Eliza sings "wine and dine."
Just another little tidbit to break hearts
Omg thank you for pointing this out!!
I'm listening to it rn and I can't really hear it??? Is it the little part that comes on right as Eliza says wine and dine?
@@music-cat1030 Yeah! I think it's only in the cast recording, if that helps.
Okay, so I just spent the past minute rewinding that part to listen for it (pun unintended, lol) but I heard it and then compared it to Satisfied when Angelica says rewind and it sounds EXACTLY the same! Thank you for pointing it out!
@@music-cat1030 No problem! I haven't heard anyone talk about this, for a split second I thought I was hearing things tbh
Glad to see I wasn't!
Eliza: * gets married *
Angelica: so anyways I started *rewinding*
It’s rewind time
@@jasmineabrego8157 that’s hot
daaaa
LMTO
@@pinkajou656 uhmm
The fact that Peggy was in the middle of all this makes me laugh
yeah no poor Peggy LMAO
@@A22131 nah I don’t think it’s poor Peggy she was just vibin with her wine
everyone: *talking about the scenes and lighting and details*
me: *wheezing over alex pushing laf away from angie*
when?
@@sleepyhead7989 starts at 1:37
😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😆😆😆😆😭
It’s so funny- and then…It really shows how Alex was just trying to get one of the sisters but not actually that interested in them. He just really wants the name, that sleazy bitch..
I knew they matched but not down to the exact details, this is sick
samee
3:56 The fact that "if I tell her that I love him" is the same part as "I'm just saying if you really loved him you would share him" is AMAZING and GENIUS and PERFECT
Except the line is “if you really loved ME you would share him”
IKR! Idk how they do that!
never realized Washington danced with Angelica for a moment in both scenes
Historical reference that she wasnt just some woman linked to Hamilton. I think even the fact that Lafayette walking toward her before Hamilton meant her historical significance...or at least someone notable during the era...
@@lxkerrigan Historically, Angelica orchestrated for Lafayette to be broken out of prison. And it almost worked, except his carriage got lost and he was rearrested. So yeah, even that little bit where Lafayette is walking towards her holds so much weight.
0:37 can we acknowledge the look Jazzy is giving Anthony here? Adorable.
4:39 and how Washington is straightening Hamilton's clothes like a dad.
Awwww that’s amazing
@@pesky_lara4321 Go home, Alexander
That’s an order from your commander
@@elizaschuyler1107 *_but- G O H O M E_*
@@pesky_lara4321 Look around, look around at how lucky we are
To be alive right now
Look around, look around…
@@elizaschuyler1107 how long have you known?
id never seen the two songs side by side. its SCARY how perfect this is. the people that put this all together are absolute geniuses
edit: WHAT? 7k??? thanks yall!
I've been wondering what they looked like side by side for a while and I was just hoping someone would do it
Dessi Adore yeah I can see some similarities
all this time I was thinking oh their just similar on the key parts so we catch on and line noooo it is every single movement they are all truly brilliant!!
@@camisweet1185 YES! exactly! didn’t think i was gonna be this impressed with it. hamilton strikes again
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Peggy is just vibing through all this
imagine if Peggy had a random song with her own perspective LMAOO
Angeli Chaves It would be like “My sisters are having the time of their lives while I’m just alone with myself 😔”
XD
Nico Perez Alt sadly- but she was a badass when she was alive :((
She's the best, oh God ! ^^
Badkittywhoopwhoop not alone, she scape with Laurens when they form a line with couples at 3:45 (satisfied)
Angelica: “I know my sister like I know my own mind you will never find anyone as trusting or as kind”
Me: *hits my sister with a brick cause they wore my shoes*
i try to make my older sister depressed because she made me suicidal and depressed when i was 9
@@asia.bonnie Is everything fine?
@@asia.bonnie 🤭
@@asia.bonnie therapy
@@asia.bonnie uhh, seek professional help? I mean...
So at the Winter's Ball, everybody was checking out the three sisters but Angelica actually caught Hamilton's eye first? Interesting... he wasn't thinking about Eliza until Angelica introduced them.
Pushed Lafayette out the way
@@joypeaceandhappiness1501😭😭
this is why hamilton took 7 years jesus christ
IKR!!!! 6 years!!! And it took him one year to write “My Shot”.
#chessnotcheckers lol
@@sarahj5161 is it a slang
This is Andy Blankenbuehler's choreography. Credit where it's due
@@NahedElrayes Majority-ish parts of the credits still go to the storywriter. Good choreography with bad story is just helpless, but you can be satisfied with bad choreography that has good story. (Im sorrY I COULDNT HELP MYSELF)
Though the choreography is also mind-blowing its crazy, lets just give credits to everyone
Wow the timing where in satisfied she says “if I tell her that I love him” at the EXACT same time I’m helpless she makes the joke about the harem. My mind is blown!
Did you also know that what Angelica says after the harem joke (if you really loved me you would share him) is historically accurate?
blog.oup.com/2015/11/friendship-alexander-hamilton-angelica-church-broadway/
« I love him very much and if you were as generous as the Old Romans,” she wrote Eliza in 1794, “you would lend him to me for a while.”
This was by far my favorite part of the production from a theatrical stand point. When they did the choreography backwards, I was blown away. It did not feel like a play at that point. There was no way that was done live. But it was, which made it all the more impressive.
i always get chills when angelica belts "union" towards the end when they're going through the wedding again and you see alexander and eliza kiss again but on the turntable i don't know w h y but it's so powerful to me
Lafayette was bout to go get Angelica and hamiton was like nope! MINE
I think the craziest part about this is before Angelica introduces Alex to Eliza, he’s completely smitten by her (Angelica). That’s why in Satisfied when he says “Schuyler?” it’s a bit more curious/confused than in Helpless; he isn’t sure why she’s introducing them because they seemed to hit it off so well.
Not "if", Burr, but "which one"?
timestamp?
Lmao and then he ended up with Eliza anyway smh 🤦🏾♀️
@@evelynnahsahahaahaha both of the guys begin walking towards Angelica around 1:37
What I love about this is that everything here is a replay of what happened EXCEPT for the “if I tell her that I love him she’d be silently resigned he’d be mine” . Here she talks about what could have possibly happened and we see that Eliza never snatches the letters back like she did in helpless but instead sadly walks offstage with peggy. For a brief moment we see the reality that could have been if Angelica took Alexander for herself . Happens around 3:56
I NEVER NOTICED THAT!! Thank you!!
OMG GREAT LOOK !! I never looked at it like that.
OMG THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT! Whoever is left with the letters is the one who doesn’t walk off with Peggy so they are the center of the show and of Alexander’s life. Wow.
Omg that is amazing! Thanks for pointing that out! 👏🏼
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY BRAIN RIGHT NOW this is a next level observation 👏👏👏👏
3:50
Peggy's vibing dance.
Your welcome.
thank you i needed that
that dance was amazing
One of my favorite pieces in both songs is the scene where Alexander first lays eyes on Angelica and Eliza. In Helpless, Angelica is in between Alexander and Eliza, but isn't blocking their vision of each other - in fact you can draw a line from Alexanders eyes to Eliza's eyes. In Satisfied, they set the scene up again but this time Angelica is standing just far enough forward that she breaks the eyeline and makes it so that Alexander is looking directly at her. It's such a subtle thing that adds so many layers to the scene as Angelica looks at what she could have had.
Timestamp please?
@@loiseabne4160 2:37
@@charlieawerbuch5352 Thanks!
Chills
That was *satisfying*
Tbh idk how I got this much likes but Thank you!
Le gasp, the irony
I was satisfied
I see what you did there
Jessica Caplinger 😏
May you always be satisfied
after watching the movie (after having spammed the soundtrack countless times over the previous years) i noticed something that i hadn't heard before, which is that in satisfied you can hear the men say "ladies" at the beginning of the song.
edit: the times where it can be heard include 1:13, 1:17, and 1:20
Oh my GOD I NEVER NOTICED THAT BEFORE THAT’S AMAZING
OMG!! I heard it!!!!! That is so cool!
That is pretty awesome, isn’t it.
Which minute is it? I'm too dumb to hear it hahaha
Nele it’s around 1:13
I love how in Helpless she jokingly grabs the letter, but in Satisfied she holds it and looks close to tears
omg i can hear the "ladies~" in the background now, i just thought it was "ayyyy,"
ME TOO! exactly!!
My favourite is how Peggy's little dance syncs up with both songs
Where is Peggy's little dance?
@@shannenlibres2365 At 3:52. It's when Angelica is singing "I know my sister like I know my own mind".
Hi purrpawz
Hi purrpawz
@@amthirsty1987 hi amthirsty
I'm assuming when Lin was writing helpless and satisfied he was like making sure that the part
"Then I turn to see
my sister's face and she is
Helpless
and I know she is
Helpless
And her eyes are just
Helpless..."
He made sure it was the exact same duration as
"Then you walked in
and my heart went boom
Tryna catch your eye
from the side of the ballroom
Everybody's dancin'
and the band's top volume
Grind to the rhythm
as we wine and dine
Grab my sister and whisper
'yo this one's mine"
Am I right???
yep, it's like the same moment through different perspectives
I wanted to like this comment but it has 911 likes. I didn’t want to ruin it. You’re literally on fire! Nice catch! 🤣
YES he also did that with the lines 'history has it's eyes on you' and 'who lives who dies who tells your story'
i think we can all agree that the "TO THE UNIONN" bit gave us all chills.
Between Helpless and Satisfied, the differences are you can see how happy Eliza looks in Helpless. While you can see how sad Angelica looks in Satisfied, so it's basically Happy Helpless and Sad Satisfied. And Eliza takes pauses to talk in Helpless while Angelica raps without any pauses.
If you notice at 2:40 in "Satisfied", Hamilton is in line with Angelica but in "Helpless" Hamilton is in line with Eliza.
I'd argue they're all standing in the same line, but it's still cool how the perspective plays with how you view the line!
Eliza's in the far left on the screen of Satisfied and Angelica is in the middle of Eliza and Alex so they're in the same place just the angles. But yea it's still cool 😊
They also filmed the movie over 2 days to get All the different angles for the movie
good observation but did you guys notice around this time hercules mulligan ( well the actor ) does the stupidest dance 😂
they're in the same positions but the lighting in helpless shadows angelica's face, illuminating hamilton and eliza whereas the lighting in satisfied shadows eliza and illuminates that the little interaction hamilton has with angelica before that "hey, hey, hey" was actually significant. it's similar to how in the room where it happens, when it goes from hamilton/burr's perspective to "thomas claims" to madison's idea, the blocking is the same, but the audio interaction is added in for the audience to figure out why madison is pointing out to the far right/left depending on how you see it.
So when the cast said they literally had to do Satisfied in reverse of Helpless....they weren’t exaggerating 😭
Rewind rewind rewind .... 🎶🎶
Did anyone else notice that in Helpless, there is more blue lighting, maybe symbolizing Eliza. In Satisfied, there is more pink lighting which could be symbolizing Angelica
@@adannunez8540 I did not notice that. Thank you for pointing that out. Chalk another on up to the amazing lighting director. RIP Nick Cordero
Renee's voice in this song is just amazing. The range of this song is so over the place, but she is completely on point and those notes she hits at the end is just so great. I'm in awe of her talent.
Renee's brokenhearted, resigned, devastated emotion at the end part of this song rivals the intensity of what eliza has at the end of who lives who dies. they're both excellent at this.
i knew they used the same choreography but holy shit i didn't realize how perfectly it all matched up,, thank you for making this 🥺️
edit: damn this clout is so tasty
It probably wouldn't match up as well if the uploader hadn't done all that rewinding and pausing to make it line up
David Yang it wouldn’t match if he didn’t do all that stuff, but he/she had to because in Satisfied Angelica there are a lot of parts where she “pauses” in real time, and those times are the AXACT time he/she paused Helpless, so I think he/she did great!
I’m satisfied
@@thedancer9759 very true
I love ur profile pic! That’s the prettiest pride flag imo
A moment of appreciation for the person who edited this video, you didn’t have to make it so clear and perfect from the cuts, little pauses, and fast forwards to the icons indicating clearly when something’s happening in the edit.
The video would probably have worked pretty well either way but you went the extra mile to make it look good and really emphasise Andy Blankenbuehler and Lin-Manuel Miranda’s vision for the number and for that i salute you
Thanks!! I just thought some of the pause frames looked weird just freezing so i made them darken to lose the focus, and it felt weird not making it clear that certain things didn't actually line up as perfectly as i made them appear. I already planned to have a rewind/fast forward symbol for the beginning and end so i figured it wouldn't hurt to use it in the rest of the video too. I'm glad you noticed and appreciated it!!
Yes!!! Thank you so much for that! I was telling my bf how it was totally insane!!! Lin Manuel just tweeted about your video! Congrats! 😍
Mira M oh my god thanks for letting me know I’m lowkey freaking out sjdjjdjd
In my opinion this video is perfect :)
@@miram4279 we have the same name lol
This is absolutely GENIUS. Some great details include the
“LADIES!”
And in the cast recordings helpless if you listen closely when Eliza say is “Wine and Dine” and can hear Angelica going “Rewind”
*Angelica singing about losing the person she loved*
Peggy: \ 👁 👄👁 /
💃💃💃
GIVE ANDY BLANKENBUEHLER ALL THE AWARDS
Yes!!! More people need to realize that the choreography here is thanks to him (even though Lin did write an amazing song, the credit for the visual spectacle of the rewind goes to Andy Blankenbuehler)
yesss
Angelica went through all of those emotions all on her own and its crazy how we didn't see it before 'Satisfied' started. Goddammit! This is a MASTERPIECE!!!
It’s a masterpiece indeed!
We did - Lin's line, 'Renee tried to take a bite of me'. When you hear it on the soundtrack it sounds as if Lin is simply playing and Philippa doesn't take him seriously, but when I saw it on Disney+ I realised that Phillipa looks round in distress and Lin has to comfort her.
As someone who's done theatre for years actually watching these side by side is insane. The blocking is immensely perfect between the two and her stage presence is so much felt in both pieces on multiple viewings
that last gaze between Alexander and Angelica, my god, it breaks me every single time
SAME :(
the way the soldiers position hamilton so he’s facing eliza at 3:30 ALWAYS gives me chills. they (and angelica) literally set him up with eliza.
I love how he literally just parts the seas when he’s in line with them and effortlessly advances through their ranks thanks to his new status. This bit of choreo took me a few views to notice but now I absolutely agree that it’s one of the best parts!!
It's not QUITE at 3:30. It's more like 3:36 or 3:37 if you ask me.
one of my favoriteee parts is in Satisfied when Angelica sings "to your union" and the ensemble goes "to the union" but the boyz go "to the revolution," you can see jasmine (peggy/maria) turn and half-smile at someone standing next to her. it's the tiniest break of character because she's actually smiling at her fiance, anthony ramos (laurens/philip), and it's freaking the cutest thing ever.
🥺🥺 that's so cute
You could also interpret it as Peggy (who didn't want to hang with the revolutionaries in Schuyler Sisters) going, "nobody asked you!"
Reeni Espino I like your explanation just as much as I like M Wilson’s haha
Peggy never married Philip. Or Laurens. Please explain.
@@WeneedmoreGodsinTshirts haha, the original actor who played peggy and maria (jasmine cephas-jones) is engaged to the actor that played laurens and philip (anthony ramos). so i just interpreted it as something little between the two of them!
1:13 that faint "ladies" just hits different
It sounds like ‘LAYS’ 💀
Renée's performance is literally so captivating. I was legit so immersed the first time I watched this, then found myself crying a little a the end despite already hearing this song for like 3 years.
it makes total sense why theyre using the same choreography, since angelica is having flashbacks to these same moments and also i like that they still said "LADIES" because it's the same moment as she thinks this
HOW COME EVERYONE CAN HEAR 'LADIES' AND I CAN'T? It's so annoying.
@@WeneedmoreGodsinTshirts same
@@WeneedmoreGodsinTshirts It's very quiet and echoey in Satisfied, but it really is there! Right in the moment's pauses between Angelica's first verses after Rewind, when she starts remembering. ...Try listening to the CD?
This was so scary how everything matched up how it was supposed to😍
5:14 It may seem just for me, that Alexander looks at her before going after Eliza... He really likes Angelica before...
"To you union!" 4:48
*they kiss, while she stands on the side*
I need y'all to acknowledge Renee's absolutely mind blowing talent
The choreography is INCREDIBLE and the fact that everyone managed to learn this well, like I would be up there not knowing what im doing 😂
I really love Renee. Her version will always be the best version to me. Just her passion, her pain, her simplicity, her strength. I just love the way she really embodies this character and really tells a story through her actions, her facial expressions, everything. I just love her ❤️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 amazing performance
4:49 That was the most painful part, especially to her, which is kind of y she sang “To your Union!” that way! Very powerful performance! 💯
And I also like how she singing the words very clear, too.
Guys if you look carefully on Satisfied at 3:45 you can see what looks like John Lauren’s and Peggy schyler running away like a couple of lovebirds
I mean well
No
Cos
This is Laurens we're talking about
omg i love that
They *are* a couple in real life!! X,D
I think that Peggy was setting up to do her little shoulder dance, but lovebirds running away is fine.
I just thought it was part of the ball dance, I remember doing something like that for school formal 🤢
love how because of how it was filmed, in 'helpless' we get to see elizas face close up after angelica says "I'll leave you to it", showing her excitement
but in 'satisfied', we see angelicas face close up after saying that, really emphasizing her pain of letting alexander go to eliza
Agreed! It definitely showed the multiple POV helpless from Eliza and satisfied from Angelica
It’s crazy to see both of these side by side so you can really understand how subtle the changes are to portray the exact same scene from two different perspectives. Angelica’s emotion is so strong here that it’s pretty easy to forget that they were at her sisters wedding
when angelica see's eliza's "boom" in helpless 🥺🥺 2:40
oh this is amazing! i did not catch that the choreography was so similar, i love it!
yes, it's a "rewind;" I noticed after I understood what was said/done in that scene - it's amazing
and beautiful
Lin said that they had them do most of the coreography from Helpless backwards
There’s an interview, I think it’s something like the obc of Hamilton answer Google’s most asked questions. When they were talking about satisfied, both jas and Anthony said the same thing: they learnt how to do helpless on the turntable and then their “brain hurt” when they were told they would have to do it backwards for satisfied. It was so cute, I don’t give it justice lol.
Neither did I until I watched this video
the staging of satisfied at 4:06 to 4:26 is incredible. when she sings “wife” and eliza turns around and hamilton turns his head? amazing.
it’s like so powerful but yet so subtle
After he steps forward through them all to the front, which represents the social climbing Angelica has just sung about.
The fact that at 2:42, Eliza is saying "Helpless" at the same time in both clips gives me chills.
Also I love how you color coded the lyrics, that was smart!
Lafayette: **goes towards angelica **
Ham: nope
I notice that before Alexander met Eliza, Angelica had the time to sing because he was all to herself but the moment leading up to Alex and Eliza meeting, she begins to rap symbolizing that maybe she needed to get all her thoughts out about how she feels for Alexander to herself before they get married since she’s running out of time. Also in satisfied when the letters don’t go to Eliza its like she had Alexander to herself again and she begins to sing
Ahh that is amazing!!
You are a genius!!!
Wowwwwww
wow! thanks for pointing that out :o
This is just creepy O.o the fact all of this is matched so real this is just amazing Lin Manuel Miranda is ligit a genius
Also THANK YOU FOR ALL THE LIKES THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAD THIS MUCH!’
Edit
I know it was a long time but it was spelling error that made me type it wrong and also yes not just Lin who decided to make it.
While im sure he had a part in staging, dont forget all the people behind the scenes who had a main part in staging and choreo
*Lin Manuel Miranda
It's Linnamon Roll not kimnamon Roll 😂
The choreographer, Andy Blankebuehler is sooo talented and amazing, he thought about every move and everything that happens on stage. there are some videos of him explaining the choreography and it's honestly fascinating
While Lin is absolutely genius, I'm not sure he had much to do with this. It would've been Thomas Kail (director) and Andy Blankenbuehler (choreographer) who staged it.
Hamilton is so amazing at getting even the tiniest of details. They even had that little Peggy-bop when she got the letters.
3:30 you can also see here that hamilton was staring at angelica (which means his interest is in her) until angelica said she introduced her sister then he looked to eliza which also means his interest is on eliza now. What an amazing musical
2:58 - 3:03 the fact that was in sync was *Satisfying*
THANK YOU!
I love how Hamilton acted differently when he meets Eliza if it was in Elizas memory or in Angelicas.
Yes! It's because it is each of their perceptions of him at that moment. Eliza was focused on him liking her, while Angelica was focused on him wondering/ doubting her. The same way that everyone acts differently in the Room Where It Happens when it's not their turn.
Okay, honestly one of my favorite parts in Satisfied is what this guy is doing 0:06 (the guy next to Ramos) but obviously the whole thing is amazing
HOLY SHIT I just now realized that in 3:58 when Angelica sang "If I tell her that I love him she'd be silently resigned", they're exactly at the point in Helpless where Angelica jokingly sang "I'm just sayin if you love me you would share him"
4:31- 5:01 she killed that!
I felt her emotions when she sang that part
So sad
I love this part so much. I play it on repeat sometimes, just this section.
OMG YES YES!!!!💗
I cried😭🤧
It gives me goosebumps!
A friend of mine told me to watch carefully at Laurens, cause he, as well as Angelica is raising the glass and not dancing backwards, this could be interpreted as Laurens having the same feeling as Angelica of throwing away their opportunity with the one they love. And I just FEEL THAT on another level...
Not to rain on your parade, but Lafayette and Mulligan are also frozen at that point of the song, and not “rewinding” so I think it’s just a coincidence. Still cool! I didn’t notice he froze during that part too
Ye Olde Bard
So maybe they all are heartbroken? 😂
@@psychicfriendfredbear1978 yeah, I mean, Laff wanted Angelica, Herc... IDK, Herc maybe wanted Peggy, and the girls are like "I don't care" to them, and my lovely laurens with my stupid and cheater Alex (even that in the musical I shipp harder Jamilton pwp)
But what I do know irl Laurens and Hamilton were inlove just broke up, because in the old times liking someone in your same sex is illegal. But I may be wrong..
Lauren was actually not at their wedding he was on a mission to somewhere or something, idk
1:37
Hamilton: *pushes laffayette*
Laffayette: Alex WTF
Hamilton:My schuyler sister
Perfect 👌
Angelica is the best sister in history. She knew Eliza loved Alexander and so she let her have him. She’s so considerate and selfless. Her act of kindness sets a huge example in our every day lives ❤️ PS also Peggy’s dance when Angelica said “I know my sister like I know my own mind” was hilarious 😂