Yep, they’re of morons. Just play the game for the sake of the game. I miss arcades cause people had more respect, namely because you can’t hide behind a screen.
Once i saw yoshi's introduction trailer in this game, i knew he'd be top tier. After watching a few matches...i figured he was around S-tier before it started becoming obvious. Arslan is already nosing around him now. I've been a yoshi player too and always felt he lacked something. Not in this game
Whenever I play Yoshi its just the voices in my head going "Do f,f1+4 it'll be hilarious just do it just do it." Fighting a 1v2 and the 2nd opponent is the intrusive thoughts
So happy to see you talking about this! In any fighting game, once you reach the level where your opponents start to read and predict you, it's really important to understand that sometimes the timing at which you do an option is as or sometimes more important than what option you actually pick. If your opponent doesn't know what option you're going to pick, but knows the timing that you pick an option at, it makes their defense and offense so much easier. Keep up the great content Phi :)
A lot of timing reads and mind games is intuitive. Same in martial arts. You have to train to do it without thinking because if you're thinking about it in a match, it's already too slow and you'll lose.
Yoshi's great, you either get the insane Yoshi's doing stuff you'd never even think about thinking about and its great, or you get one that's playing carefully and with fundamentals, which makes him look sick
Got a TK, and the concept of splitting the timing into 3(.5) categories... Damn, so simple and obvious but changes how you view the game SO HARD. Thanks Phi
Its important to note that at 12:01 Yoshi's f1+2 will catch side step left. Definitely a hard counter to Kkokkama's attempted positioning there. Sick video man thank you 🍻
PhiDX: "schizo brilliantly predicted the opponent's delayed timing, so he delayed his heal to switch into flea stance and catch the immediate heat smash" Schizo: "lol fuck it what if I jumped over this dude"
The one thing I felt the difference between eyemusician and schizophrenic Yoshi is eyemusician's combos and playstyle are very formal while shizo trained himself by fuck and find out method and plays like fuck it we ball....
it also feels like Flash makes immediate timings so dangerous vs Yoshi. Flash on -2/-3 makes any opponent hesitate which opens Yoshi's gameplan so much
Unrelated detail i noticed but when sin got him to the wall on game 2 round 1, he also did three homing moves in a row to lock him down from stepping away from the wall before going for the unblockable. Probably made the tech roll seem more risky and subconsciously conditioned the get up kick. Not to mention the tech rolls he caught at the wall earlier.
Sin's fundamentals really are super good. His Yoshi is different from pretty much everyone else. It looks like he learned the character by actually playing the game instead of regurgitating CZcams videos.
Gave you a shoutout on a Facebook page for tekken 8. Thank you for the training videos. I’m definitely improving with Lidia. My throw escapes are getting better too. I finally got to red ranks today
the problem with analysis is that you know the result already. there is no way the yoshi player incentived anything from the dragonuv player (im talking about Phi’s comment at 10:51), most players come in with a plan irrespective of what the opponent and feel it out. If the end result was Kkokoma winning by a sliver, the conclusion and analysis would be completely different. And if Phi Dx commentated this match in real time, the analysis would be completely different than watching it back. Sin could be just changing his timing as a strategy to mix his game up, irrespective of what KKokokoma was doing.
I think I agree with you. At 9:14 , Phi says this is the first instance of Sin cashing out on Kkokoma’s delay timing sidestep . I disagree. It so happens that F+1+2 with Yoshi hit, but I think Sin was just looking to use that move as soon as possible since he had low life and was in heat. He did not have a read on KKokoma. And KKokoma I don’t think was trying to delay anything here, all he did was sidestep first to get away from the wall and better position himself so he got clipped by Yoshi’s f+1+2. If they weren’t against the wall, KKokoma probably wouldn’t have sidestepped at all. There was no hard read here. Also, just because someone has been doing delay timing most of the round, that doesn’t mean or guarantee they will do delay timing towards the end of the round or the entire round.
It’s crazy how applicable & insightful your videos are to newcomers into the fgc and long time sweats like myself. Love everything you put out brother keep it up 🤙
I'm really happy you covered this guy! I watched Lil Majin's vid earlier and it was the first time I'd seen Sin's Yoshi... and, I was left speechless. This guy's gameplay was STELLAR.
Yoshi has had really solid footsies and counterpoke options even since T7 but now he's on another level with his buffed sword moves and extra mix. His 11, 21 and snake edge in NSS are annoying to deal with let alone all his other tools like flash, poison spit and especially spins that let him escape otherwise guaranteed pressure. If played with a killer mindset Yoshi is a very scary character.
Incredible from the perspective of a novice as to how these players may be thinking. I would love to hear an explanation of what may be going through the head of the loser, or how the odds are just working against the loser.
The first and only Tekken game I played(forgot which one it is) I was a Yoshi main. I just liked the cool samurai-isk design and I'm a sucker for swords. Next in line was king.
@@saafff5465true, but Eyemusician fundamentals are just as strong as those two. Last time he was really active, he was beating Pakistan players pretty convincingly.
I play Yoshimitsu because he makes me do shit that makes him do shit that makes me laugh which makes the opponent make stupid decisions. It's like having a method to madness.
0:18 Brother, you've just described half of the players in red rank I've faced in the past month who all happen to be playing Yoshi. They ain't playin' around, they here to milk that flash and win. 😅
You see a severe diference of move set from a serious gameplay of Yoshimitsu, any desperate attempt of auto stabbing, venomous breath, just straight cuts
Stuffing flash has nothing to do with the hitbox though, it has to do with frames. He got stuffed because he got jab checked after being hit by moves that set him back at least 5 frames. Flash is fast but not THAT fast.
I'm very new to Tekken and didn't understand the timing masterclass explanation. It seems like maybe there's a R/P/S thing going on, but I don't understand what options delay timing beats?
Yoshi Bryan Dragon nerfs are needed. I know it’s impossible to balance out a game that’s as big as Tekken with as many characters but there’s some changes we need made.
13:55 ''yoshi need nerfs'' says someone in chat after that hard af read from SIN (the previous match as well reads after reads after reads), seriously some of yall just wanna complain to hear yourselves complain
I've never met a yoshimitsu player I haven't becomes friends with yet. Lol every match online is just us standing there doing cart wheels for 90 seconds
Winning isn't as fun, long absurd combos are the game inside the game any one can win, but can you pull off a 16 hit combo for over a hundred damage. You do that & drop the sticks… walk away.. You already won
Got bodied by my mother of all people who mained yoshi, sent my ass on a whole training arc to get back. Yoshi is scary if they play right and seriously
"wouldn't it be funny if i hit this move" is my entire gameplan as yoshimitsu
yes
This is the way
Yep, they’re of morons. Just play the game for the sake of the game. I miss arcades cause people had more respect, namely because you can’t hide behind a screen.
Wait, you guys make gameplan? I just press random buttons and Yoshi go wheeeee!
I spin go dizz and get bizzy. Idea none, all I do is spin spin spin, no matter what, spinning sword I'll never give it up.
Yoshimitsu, the character where intruisive thoughts are the norm
Like Voldo from Soul Caliber. Voldo as a character is funny and squirrelly but a serious voldo player is fucking terrifying
Interviews SIN:
SIN: "I wasn't thinking I just threw out the hop knee"
that move is my lifeblood
I did not say that hahahaha
You know it's serious when you don't even see a flash
Why do I hear boss music?
@@Iwatoda_Dormreina stage theme starts playing
lmao
lol huh? There were a minimum of like 5 flashes. Unless yoshi has another move that looks like flash? Am I trippin? Lol
first 3 seconds of the match
Yoshimitsu players:
This move is so stupid... But hitting it would make my career worth it
It'd be funny if Yoshi turned out to be by far the strongest character, only held back because no one plays him seriously
God I hope not. I've always been a yoshi player sinve T1 and the underestimating us is one of our greatest strengths lol
Us Yoshi mains have waited many many years for a Yoshi this strong 🤣
I mean, he is possibly top 5 right now.
Once i saw yoshi's introduction trailer in this game, i knew he'd be top tier. After watching a few matches...i figured he was around S-tier before it started becoming obvious. Arslan is already nosing around him now. I've been a yoshi player too and always felt he lacked something. Not in this game
he already is lol top 5 atleast
Whenever I play Yoshi its just the voices in my head going "Do f,f1+4 it'll be hilarious just do it just do it." Fighting a 1v2 and the 2nd opponent is the intrusive thoughts
Big fax😂
And when it whiffs it's s like Tastey Steve in your ear.... "Do it again"
After I got eliminated in a local by trying a harakiri, you bet I'm gonna try it again next month.
So happy to see you talking about this! In any fighting game, once you reach the level where your opponents start to read and predict you, it's really important to understand that sometimes the timing at which you do an option is as or sometimes more important than what option you actually pick. If your opponent doesn't know what option you're going to pick, but knows the timing that you pick an option at, it makes their defense and offense so much easier. Keep up the great content Phi :)
As a Yoshi main if he got a damage nerf i wouldnt mind but god i would miss these kinds of interactions.
I dont mind also guard break. Never been a fan of guard breaks. Hate Paul Shaheen and Steve's also.
A lot of timing reads and mind games is intuitive. Same in martial arts. You have to train to do it without thinking because if you're thinking about it in a match, it's already too slow and you'll lose.
It's really cool to notice the actual similarities in execution between fighting games and real martial arts. The mental factor really is similar.
@@TheGenchannelalso real fighting has A LOT of footsies. Whoever can read the ranges better usually has a huge advantage.
Yoshi's great, you either get the insane Yoshi's doing stuff you'd never even think about thinking about and its great, or you get one that's playing carefully and with fundamentals, which makes him look sick
Got a TK, and the concept of splitting the timing into 3(.5) categories...
Damn, so simple and obvious but changes how you view the game SO HARD.
Thanks Phi
Bro's Piloting Mahoraga at this point.
Its important to note that at 12:01 Yoshi's f1+2 will catch side step left. Definitely a hard counter to Kkokkama's attempted positioning there.
Sick video man thank you 🍻
i pray for the day when phi analyzes schizophrenic69's yoshi 😔
He makes EyeMusician look like Saint. That man is NOT ok and I love it
PhiDX: "schizo brilliantly predicted the opponent's delayed timing, so he delayed his heal to switch into flea stance and catch the immediate heat smash"
Schizo: "lol fuck it what if I jumped over this dude"
The one thing I felt the difference between eyemusician and schizophrenic Yoshi is eyemusician's combos and playstyle are very formal while shizo trained himself by fuck and find out method and plays like fuck it we ball....
I hope
bro i fucking LOVE watching eyemusician because he does the funniest things on Yoshi, it's a great showcase of the character's wackiness
Yo Phi. Your videos always push me to strive for greatness. No one talks as poetically about Tekken as you do. Keep it up!
4:34 he said Delay timing-ing 😂🤣😂
it also feels like Flash makes immediate timings so dangerous vs Yoshi. Flash on -2/-3 makes any opponent hesitate which opens Yoshi's gameplan so much
Unrelated detail i noticed but when sin got him to the wall on game 2 round 1, he also did three homing moves in a row to lock him down from stepping away from the wall before going for the unblockable. Probably made the tech roll seem more risky and subconsciously conditioned the get up kick. Not to mention the tech rolls he caught at the wall earlier.
Sin's fundamentals really are super good. His Yoshi is different from pretty much everyone else. It looks like he learned the character by actually playing the game instead of regurgitating CZcams videos.
Nice breakdown…., but I can’t wait for Eyemusician to show who is the God of Yoshimitsu…. It’s far from just partying. The man is a literal genius
Eyemusician has so many different ways to pressure it's crazy
As someone who's first exposure to Yoshi was from SC5 it's hilarious seeing him get to live in a real series that gets good games
19:10 Phi heard is inner Speedkicks saying "Bro, you are overthinking this"
18:06 did this man actually say "Bagoosh" lmao
That intro, while super funny, is just so accurate haha
Didnt play yoshi since T7, but that was my whole thoughtprocess back then xD
The day a yoshimitsu player stops trolling is the day he is no longer a yoshimitsu player xb
As a yoshi main, Happy to see the yoshi content 🎉🎉🎉
That card is from a bandai TCG called "Union Arena". Not even out in north america just yet.
loving your fight breakdowns.
Gave you a shoutout on a Facebook page for tekken 8. Thank you for the training videos. I’m definitely improving with Lidia. My throw escapes are getting better too.
I finally got to red ranks today
My yoshi brain That "Wouldnt it be funny" goes into every character i play
Imagine if Schizophrenic69 stops smiling
wydm have you watched his streams? dude is giga depressed lmao
@@louisedyhlen3234 iunno he seems pretty chill to me
the problem with analysis is that you know the result already. there is no way the yoshi player incentived anything from the dragonuv player (im talking about Phi’s comment at 10:51), most players come in with a plan irrespective of what the opponent and feel it out. If the end result was Kkokoma winning by a sliver, the conclusion and analysis would be completely different. And if Phi Dx commentated this match in real time, the analysis would be completely different than watching it back. Sin could be just changing his timing as a strategy to mix his game up, irrespective of what KKokokoma was doing.
This isn't a "watch this so you know how you should approach the match"
This is a "look at how the winner approached the match"
I think I agree with you. At 9:14 , Phi says this is the first instance of Sin cashing out on Kkokoma’s delay timing sidestep . I disagree. It so happens that F+1+2 with Yoshi hit, but I think Sin was just looking to use that move as soon as possible since he had low life and was in heat.
He did not have a read on KKokoma. And KKokoma I don’t think was trying to delay anything here, all he did was sidestep first to get away from the wall and better position himself so he got clipped by Yoshi’s f+1+2.
If they weren’t against the wall, KKokoma probably wouldn’t have sidestepped at all. There was no hard read here.
Also, just because someone has been doing delay timing most of the round, that doesn’t mean or guarantee they will do delay timing towards the end of the round or the entire round.
@@PhiDXwaiting for your schizophrenic69's Yoshi....
Obviously real time analysis would be different than analysis that you get to pause and rewind over and over.
@@Evilj82of course there's no guarantee, thats literally the basis for mind games, and hard reads, to exist.
I dono haven't got that far yet
😂😂😂😂
@@yovents6877don't even try, you won't
Been loving the yoshi content. I’m interested in your thoughts on 2xko
It’s crazy how applicable & insightful your videos are to newcomers into the fgc and long time sweats like myself. Love everything you put out brother keep it up 🤙
I just wanna say, I'm not in a very good point in life and your enjoyment and positive attitude makes me feel a little better, thanks
I love PhiDX's commentary, makes it so interesting!
I'm really happy you covered this guy! I watched Lil Majin's vid earlier and it was the first time I'd seen Sin's Yoshi... and, I was left speechless. This guy's gameplay was STELLAR.
This is why Yoshi is my favorite in Soul Caliber and Tekken since day 1
9:00 That off the wall sequence was smooth. Yoshi secretly best character in the game though.
Yoshi has had really solid footsies and counterpoke options even since T7 but now he's on another level with his buffed sword moves and extra mix. His 11, 21 and snake edge in NSS are annoying to deal with let alone all his other tools like flash, poison spit and especially spins that let him escape otherwise guaranteed pressure. If played with a killer mindset Yoshi is a very scary character.
feint timing is I think a better name for "slight delay timing"
As a timing master myself, I make sure that rounds end within 15-20 secs 'cause I always get perfected
Incredible from the perspective of a novice as to how these players may be thinking. I would love to hear an explanation of what may be going through the head of the loser, or how the odds are just working against the loser.
The first and only Tekken game I played(forgot which one it is) I was a Yoshi main. I just liked the cool samurai-isk design and I'm a sucker for swords. Next in line was king.
Eyemusician is far more strong than SIN but unfortunately he is not participating in tournaments.
eyemusician is strong in a different way.... sin playstyle is more similar at kane and trench playstyle
@@saafff5465true, but Eyemusician fundamentals are just as strong as those two. Last time he was really active, he was beating Pakistan players pretty convincingly.
@@jimdino77 definitely better throwbreaking of eyemusician.. sometimes eye m do strange things very risky
The Yoshi Brain is an actual disease, I love it
I play Yoshimitsu because he makes me do shit that makes him do shit that makes me laugh which makes the opponent make stupid decisions. It's like having a method to madness.
Phidx u will go for LCQ of EWC?
nope, he hasnt registered so far atleast, theres some spots open tho
Great analysis
0:18 Brother, you've just described half of the players in red rank I've faced in the past month who all happen to be playing Yoshi. They ain't playin' around, they here to milk that flash and win. 😅
these vids on sin are making me wanna pick up yoshi. last time i played em was as a kid in tekken 5 which is insane lol
That intro of the yoshi brain had me rolling 😂
Lmao outplayed. Awesome analysis as always!
0:14 😂😂😂😂yo that's me....I will take you with me "proceed to hit forward forward die"
Damn that title.. Very spooky lol Yoshi can be a struggle to go against 👍🏽💯
Wall carries and stage transitions 😂😂😂 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
You see a severe diference of move set from a serious gameplay of Yoshimitsu, any desperate attempt of auto stabbing, venomous breath, just straight cuts
This man is exiled from the Yoshimitsu council.
He flashed a couple times but got stuffed, flash hitbox is important to know about
Stuffing flash has nothing to do with the hitbox though, it has to do with frames. He got stuffed because he got jab checked after being hit by moves that set him back at least 5 frames. Flash is fast but not THAT fast.
i watched this video, picked Bryan, won 3 ranks without losing one game
ty teach
Enter a world where a yoshi plays Tekken
Enter..............................the twilight zone.........................
They lose a small portion of themselves to gain unlimited power
See that’s simple you just get knowledge checked to DEATH
PhiDx is like the new MMSwe, but smart.
Oh lol
That unblockable low sword attack is ridiculous
Good! Engagement!I love Yoshi.
My man used flash parry almost immediately and then never again lol.
At about 1:25 this is what seperates good tekken players vs good fgc players.
I'm very new to Tekken and didn't understand the timing masterclass explanation. It seems like maybe there's a R/P/S thing going on, but I don't understand what options delay timing beats?
Delay timing beats block (do nothing) --> attack
Yoshi Bryan Dragon nerfs are needed. I know it’s impossible to balance out a game that’s as big as Tekken with as many characters but there’s some changes we need made.
Absolutely crazy that playing normally on Yoshi is actually a gimmick
id love to see some 2XKO
If you can get out of this mindset (0:39) as a Yo Main?!
You've gotten away with murder.
The card game is called union arena
hell on earth is the answer
Sword sword sword sword
Nuts
Sin just put Kkokkoma into a koma 😭
Sin is all the proof you need for Yoshi players.
13:55 ''yoshi need nerfs'' says someone in chat after that hard af read from SIN (the previous match as well reads after reads after reads), seriously some of yall just wanna complain to hear yourselves complain
Yoshi is pretty busted in T8 tho. Could provably do with a slight damage nerf.
Delay timing Yoshi is such a pain.
shit I think because I really got into Fighting game with SC2, I got the Yoshi brain 0:40 for every character in every game lol
Yoshi players are just mathematicians on LSD
Yoshimitsu players didnt start doing all this until tiktok and tekken 8 😂
People who play fighting games should break the fourth wall and go learn the fundies of irl fights.
We do
This guy is sick
Why not watch Trizzy?
It's scary
I've never met a yoshimitsu player I haven't becomes friends with yet. Lol every match online is just us standing there doing cart wheels for 90 seconds
thats was a guard break not a unlockable
Bro did all of that with barely any flash, actually playing a different game
Morty, I do not want to movie it move it anymore😢
Cant decide if i want to pickup yoshi or king 😭
Winning isn't as fun, long absurd combos are the game inside the game any one can win, but can you pull off a 16 hit combo for over a hundred damage. You do that & drop the sticks… walk away.. You already won
Got bodied by my mother of all people who mained yoshi, sent my ass on a whole training arc to get back. Yoshi is scary if they play right and seriously
Im probably the most serious Yoshi player ever I dont F around
i think this guy likes tekken. just a hunch