Football but you get MORE points for LOSING

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  • čas přidán 4. 12. 2023
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Komentáře • 206

  • @maxinnes8229
    @maxinnes8229 Před 5 měsíci +766

    Man is really trying to force Lincoln to the prem

    • @MattAyresOfficial
      @MattAyresOfficial Před 5 měsíci +11

      😅

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  Před 5 měsíci +227

      You caught me 💀

    • @maxinnes8229
      @maxinnes8229 Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@TomFMI’m a York fan… looks like we stayed in the conference the whole time… which makes us one the most consistently good teams? Or bad? Idk I’m lost

    • @rocho9287
      @rocho9287 Před 5 měsíci

      don't know. we,re in relegation possibility@@maxinnes8229

    • @LukeCarey11
      @LukeCarey11 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ha ha

  • @f1peter27
    @f1peter27 Před 5 měsíci +261

    What would really be interesting is the same number of points for a win, draw or loss. Leagues would then be decided on goal difference only.

  • @joshuaroberts8101
    @joshuaroberts8101 Před 5 měsíci +38

    In this scenario, do managers lose their job for poor league positioning, or keep it with good performances and high player morale?

    • @amethyphoenix
      @amethyphoenix Před 5 měsíci +8

      Likely due to "poor" league positioning because the team is too good and they're getting relegated like crazy

  • @TopiiTank
    @TopiiTank Před 5 měsíci +11

    I think a cool experiment would be doing this for 50 years and then flipping it back to normal and seeing how it changes where the teams are in the end.

  • @user-yu7pz1fl4l
    @user-yu7pz1fl4l Před 5 měsíci +24

    I think it would be super cool to be doing this save as a user, where you could play a like inverted side or god awful tactic in the league and then try and do a quad by trying in both domestic cups and in europe.

  • @spiderextremegamertamonois
    @spiderextremegamertamonois Před 5 měsíci +21

    I really like this idea but I think it'd be way more interesting if you made a video being the manager of a terrible English team and a brilliant English team (man city probably) going through the season like this. I'm so curious what the board would think if you won every match but got relegated and whether you'd be sacked for losing 10 matches in a row or they'd love you for taking the team to the top of the league. It'd be so chaotic and I'd love to see that.
    Either way, great video as always, hope you upload the next Saint Etienne video soon!

  • @nathanb286
    @nathanb286 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I can’t believe that 10 seasons in, Burnley still weren’t good enough to get relegated from the prem

  • @woolie118
    @woolie118 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Love your concepts dude. You are crushing the football manager scene

  • @danbradford7127
    @danbradford7127 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This was incredibly entertaining! Could you do one for draws too?

  • @MLong87
    @MLong87 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Would really love to see this across the top few leagues in Europe to see how the Champions League/Europa League changes across that time.

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker Před 5 měsíci +2

    10:20 The Alan Shearer Arena...Newcastle or Blackburn, I'd understand, but Wolverhampton...
    I love the randomness of new Stadium names in this game

    • @ava_y0
      @ava_y0 Před 4 měsíci

      wait that’s really weird 😭

  • @Toboloco
    @Toboloco Před 5 měsíci +5

    Finally Yeovil won something in these sims 😄

  • @diesel9324
    @diesel9324 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Assign the same values for wins and losses but increase the value for draws.

  • @3xrstudio
    @3xrstudio Před 5 měsíci +1

    Did you happen to check in about season 3 who was being picked for England? was it the regulars with better abilities or players in the prem?

  • @richie74wells
    @richie74wells Před 5 měsíci +1

    What if you did the scoring system like in rugby, 4 points for a win plus an extra bonus point for a certain amount of goals scored

  • @tyler.e7581
    @tyler.e7581 Před 5 měsíci +1

    the reputation is making me wonder, what would happen if you maxed out a national league teams reputation and see what players they end up signing. could be interesting for a video

  • @fifa8054
    @fifa8054 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love to see Nantwich town in their battering the fa cup right now !

  • @NurDerDolphin
    @NurDerDolphin Před 3 měsíci +1

    I wonder if a manager gets sacked or not. Since you are losing every game, the board should get impatient and sack you, but how much does the league position matter, because you would be top

  • @matthewbless3335
    @matthewbless3335 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Everton having a top 3 season only for it to result in them being relegated is the most Everton thing ever

  • @blob144
    @blob144 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I can imagine the number of coaches getting sacked because of winning and getting relegated😂😂

  • @rxfiqyx3792
    @rxfiqyx3792 Před 5 měsíci +1

    just think about this :
    Pep Guardiola dominated the Premier League winning loads of games, but he gets sacked for not losing enough. Meanwhile, Paul Heckingbottom plays like Prime 2011 Derby but gets hailed a king for winning the prem.

  • @MattAyresOfficial
    @MattAyresOfficial Před 5 měsíci

    Your ideas get better and better

  • @jonathanroyston-claire9930
    @jonathanroyston-claire9930 Před 5 měsíci

    Honestly 4 mins in and have such a headache but I’m living for it

  • @indiw1x
    @indiw1x Před 5 měsíci +2

    We need the annual Wales sponsor deal video especially because I just saw TNS getting into the cl group stage at 9:50

  • @jaydg735
    @jaydg735 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Even with a lose being more rewarding than a win, it’s guts me to see that Birmingham are still in the Championship lol

  • @scottwalker4619
    @scottwalker4619 Před 5 měsíci +1

    As a Carlisle fan, I see this as an absolute win and think we should petition to FIFA to change to these new laws

  • @carlosmattessich3883
    @carlosmattessich3883 Před měsícem

    “You get more points for losing”
    San Marino: *My time has come*

  • @rolef6084
    @rolef6084 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Tottenham getting conference league while getting relegated from the championship is funny af 😂

    • @rolef6084
      @rolef6084 Před 5 měsíci

      Nvm wolves in season 10 ☠️

  • @nobbymorph
    @nobbymorph Před 2 měsíci

    That completely did my head in, it is still reeling...

  • @jasonbutton840
    @jasonbutton840 Před 5 měsíci

    As an Ebbsfleet United fan I've been waiting for a save where the club is mentioned as a major part of the narrative. Can't believe it's this one 😂

  • @ollieconnors6578
    @ollieconnors6578 Před 5 měsíci +1

    FOUR STRAIGHT RELEGATIONS, YOU’LL NEVER SING THAT

  • @TheNakedMike
    @TheNakedMike Před měsícem

    I need to know about that Aberdeen team. Please do a short.

  • @CAPlayz
    @CAPlayz Před 2 měsíci +1

    Morecambe is my local club and i love seeing them dominating for the first time

  • @kieranlowcock6905
    @kieranlowcock6905 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Try and make every team play the same formation with minimum defenders and mid and loads of attackers, I tried it on Fifa years ago and the results were insane😂😂😂

  • @blmn201249
    @blmn201249 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If only derby had this in 07/08

  • @CJApps87
    @CJApps87 Před 5 měsíci

    That Kidderminster graph was amazing!

  • @EuanBCFC
    @EuanBCFC Před 5 měsíci +1

    So we (Bristol City) finally do well on an experiment, but it’s because we were so bad we were then able to get to good enough to be relegated? I’m not even shocked

  • @agusganji
    @agusganji Před 5 měsíci

    Funniest experiment yet, great video 🎉

  • @alexanderscalzo98
    @alexanderscalzo98 Před 5 měsíci

    As a life long Orlando Magic fan I did not expect to see a jersey on an FM CZcamsr. Did you pick it up on vacation?

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bolton plummeting through the leagues here just proves how good we are?

  • @MattAyresOfficial
    @MattAyresOfficial Před 5 měsíci +1

    The first season is typical Cheltenham Town

  • @Adam-mo7hb
    @Adam-mo7hb Před 5 měsíci

    Kiddy is massive! 🤣 fun fact, a Premier League winning captain has played for us, Wes Morgan! On loan in the 02/03 season I believe

  • @sycroyoutube
    @sycroyoutube Před 5 měsíci

    8:31 crazy to see long eaton there, i live near! 😅

  • @freddiewells9922
    @freddiewells9922 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Definitely one of your best experiments yet 👌🏻

    • @HCMCDrives
      @HCMCDrives Před 5 měsíci

      Shame he didn't credit the guy who inspired this with his made database last week.

  • @numchacar
    @numchacar Před 5 měsíci

    what you should do is sim it 100 years then do another 100 years but reverting it back to 3 points for a win and 0 for a loss and see if any top teams can make it back to top of the prem

  • @thenameplus431
    @thenameplus431 Před 5 měsíci

    Come on!!!! Been waiting for this

  • @adzter96
    @adzter96 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I wonder what happened to the managers, did they get fired for constantly getting relegated or keep their jobs because they kept winning matches?

  • @fletchergracie3992
    @fletchergracie3992 Před 2 měsíci

    Id love to see id you put the points back to normal after 20 years and simulated it

  • @DuskKaiser
    @DuskKaiser Před 5 měsíci

    Will you be trying the Worst Database shared on Steam?
    Although the creator said he needs to fix some things so it works properly

  • @patrickayoub7058
    @patrickayoub7058 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Anybody noticed that in season 85 (9:27) Northampton got crowned champions despite finishing 2nd in the PL with 4 points less than Southend? Why's that?

  • @16ozClawHammer
    @16ozClawHammer Před 3 měsíci

    'Liverpool are stuck in some kind of weird purgatory'. Long may it continue.

  • @CR1LLE710
    @CR1LLE710 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Theese videos get more interesting every time!

  • @Ninja_Aubergine
    @Ninja_Aubergine Před 5 měsíci +1

    As a Carlisle fan, 3:04 is something I'd love to see one day!

    • @luisgalizien
      @luisgalizien Před 5 měsíci

      I think that dream will sadly never be real my friend. 😅

    • @macario8836
      @macario8836 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You want to see them losing 26 out of 38 matches in a season? I don't think it should be too hard for them right just now!

  • @TheWolfXCIX
    @TheWolfXCIX Před 5 měsíci

    Are you going to do that 20 league nightmare save from Reddit?

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker Před 5 měsíci

    9:22 Great to see Darlo in the Premier League, even if we are in the top 10 worst teams lol

  • @Ak93T
    @Ak93T Před 5 měsíci

    The one time Aldershot do well in a simulation... and still get relegated

  • @joshjohnson9976
    @joshjohnson9976 Před 5 měsíci

    The yo-yo of huddersfield was mad 😂

  • @englishdragon88
    @englishdragon88 Před 5 měsíci

    Yay you mentioned my club Crawley Town

  • @kipzonderkop1994
    @kipzonderkop1994 Před 5 měsíci

    This is essentially making the pyramid upside down but with more steps 😂

  • @Thecoolestmubby
    @Thecoolestmubby Před 3 měsíci

    Being a Swindon Town that I've never been more proud 🙂

  • @ravenshade266
    @ravenshade266 Před 5 měsíci

    As a Fleetwood fan, I’m not sure whether I should rejoice or be saddened by the outcome of the experiment.

  • @isaacbobjork7053
    @isaacbobjork7053 Před 2 měsíci

    Imagine how the games would look if you had to lose the games to win the league. Lots of own goals probably

  • @pankajshahane7909
    @pankajshahane7909 Před 5 měsíci

    My mind can’t comprehend all the details 😂

  • @johnboyhowell
    @johnboyhowell Před 5 měsíci

    FA cup winners would have been interesting to see. Especially in the first 10 years.

  • @Schlinx619
    @Schlinx619 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That hurt my head.

  • @gamerkat99
    @gamerkat99 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Make EVERYTHING reward points

  • @jakovgrbesa6400
    @jakovgrbesa6400 Před 5 měsíci

    9:24 Weston Super Mare in 6th.

  • @Connorisgud
    @Connorisgud Před 5 měsíci

    Everytime I watch Tom I always check in his videos my home town club altrincham

  • @AJT-gj6mi
    @AJT-gj6mi Před 5 měsíci

    Could do the same points as an Ice Hockey game including extra time

  • @vijaygarv
    @vijaygarv Před 2 měsíci

    Alméria would’ve been invincible for 29 games if this was the rule.

  • @TheSparty301
    @TheSparty301 Před 3 měsíci

    I really wanted to see who was winning the FA cup. If good teams were at the lower leagues, were lower leagues winning the cup. On the other hand the best players still want to go to the prem, so maybe the prem still wins. curious

  • @Glethil
    @Glethil Před měsícem

    As a Chelsea fan I see this as an absolute win

  • @FORZAPOTENZA
    @FORZAPOTENZA Před 5 měsíci

    I think the algorithm for job security for managers would implode with this...

  • @silverlining836
    @silverlining836 Před 2 měsíci

    10:20 Anyone else notice the
    Alan Shearer Arena in Wolverhampton?

  • @TheStuartGibson
    @TheStuartGibson Před 5 měsíci +3

    I want to know how many managers the champions get? do clubs sack them for losses or do they realise that they are getting points?

  • @aidanw9378
    @aidanw9378 Před 5 měsíci

    0:45 the only way Man U could beat the rest of the big 6

  • @ashleynewman3360
    @ashleynewman3360 Před 4 měsíci

    As a Carlisle fan, I 'like' this.

  • @shanelenham8736
    @shanelenham8736 Před 5 měsíci +1

    How Did Kidderminster Win the title in 2nd? 🤔

  • @zuraqo
    @zuraqo Před 5 měsíci

    You've missed a chance of seeing a club get battered in a game then crowned as a champion after those game 🤣

  • @Driftty
    @Driftty Před 5 měsíci

    Alternative title: what would happen if the best league was the national league

  • @lostupover
    @lostupover Před 5 měsíci

    This is just like at my job...the worst performers get promoted :)

  • @hugh.g.rection5906
    @hugh.g.rection5906 Před 5 měsíci

    3:27 think something went wrong here. 2nd place crowned as champions

  • @user-ho2sj4cw4z
    @user-ho2sj4cw4z Před 2 měsíci

    Imagine winning 41 games and finish last place💀💀💀

  • @azizul1975
    @azizul1975 Před 26 dny

    lol this is chaotic....

  • @nnspenaz2343
    @nnspenaz2343 Před měsícem

    Never did I think I would be disappointed to hear Northampton in the championship

  • @saoirsedeltufo7436
    @saoirsedeltufo7436 Před 5 měsíci +1

    3:27 Kidderminster came second but are crowned champions??

  • @joshtheposh1
    @joshtheposh1 Před 2 měsíci

    whats the app

  • @CharlieMartinez-xe7nr
    @CharlieMartinez-xe7nr Před 3 měsíci

    What app do you use to get the tables

  • @DynoKea
    @DynoKea Před 5 měsíci

    2:22 Spurs going to Europe and L1
    3:24 Spurs going to Europe and L2

  • @fifagoalsmaster
    @fifagoalsmaster Před 5 měsíci

    Finally a video where cambridge united make the premier league and champions league ❤

  • @MovieNationyt
    @MovieNationyt Před 5 měsíci

    Try doing the experiment with losses first and then wins mafter ten seasons what happens

  • @JN1.
    @JN1. Před 3 měsíci

    Alan shearer arena in wolves😂

  • @YasiN-hq4pj
    @YasiN-hq4pj Před 4 dny

    So this is why Bayern signed kompany

  • @jahames556
    @jahames556 Před 5 měsíci

    Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m a blades fan 🥳

  • @N0rmalD1ff1cultyFace
    @N0rmalD1ff1cultyFace Před 22 dny

    5:35 burnley 💀
    7:08 ikeston 10 points 40 losses

  • @mexicorolls
    @mexicorolls Před 5 měsíci

    Do this again and then after say 15-20 years switch it back and see if the top teams can come back!

  • @efthimischrtk
    @efthimischrtk Před 5 měsíci

    Now do it for all of the leagues in Europe

  • @loonielee9334
    @loonielee9334 Před 5 měsíci

    Great to see my local Carlisle winning…. Ermmm losing the prem ?😮😂

  • @Founder_YT
    @Founder_YT Před 5 měsíci

    The first time fm doesnt completely ruin swindon is when the points are flipped...

  • @danielyavari6623
    @danielyavari6623 Před 2 měsíci

    At 9:25 newcastle is also in premier league not luton and southhampton