Q&A Why Did God Create The Tree of Good and Evil if He Knew Adam and Eve Would Eat From it
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Paradise Lost
Message # 1: paradise lost. Whatever happened to Paradise? There was a perfect earth with no sin when Genesis 2 ends. What a place it must have been with all of the glow of Creation unshrouded by sin. Every creature was good, and every part of the universe sang the glory of God. No groaning under the burden of sin was yet present from the creation. But then something drastic happened. What? Adam’s and Eve’s sin. Look at Genesis 3 with me.
(3:1-2) Message # 2: pride: the weakness of satan. God is in an all-out war against PRIDE this morning. He wants to stamp it out in our lives this morning. Let Him give us an exam this morning and help us cure our “I” problem today! Humility is an ingredient of all spiritual blessings. Just as every sin has its roots in pride, every virtue has its roots in humility. Humility allows us to see ourselves as we are because it shows us before God as He is. Just as pride is behind every conflict we have with other people and every problem of fellowship we have with the Lord, humility is behind every harmonious human relationship, spiritual success, and joyous fellowship with the Lord.
(3:1-5) Message # 3: AVOIDING THE DEVIL’S TRAP. Now, to the scene of the last Adam. How unlike the 1st Adam, this last Adam is.
The Devil challenged the first man. The Last Man challenged the Devil.
The Devil ruined the first Adam. The Last Adam spoiled the Devil.
The First Adam stood as the head of the race and, falling, dragged the race down with him. The Last Adam stood as the Head of the new race and, being victorious, lifted that race with Him.
The first Adam’s work of causing death could be undone, and it was at the Cross. The Last Adam’s work can never be undone, for He brought endless life.
The 1st Adam did the work of man. The Last Adam did the Work of God.
(3:3-5) Message # 4: the four spiritual flaws. Satan is in an all-out attack to make you and me doubt, reject, and become deafened to the voice of Jesus. We are not listening to the voice of Jesus when we think wrongly about God! Will you listen to that voice? Adam and Eve chose to not listen to God. Satan wants us to Doubt God’s Word, Doubt God’s Goodness, God’s Authority, and Doubt God’s Plan.
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• Q&A Why Did God Creat...
God doesn’t mind if we have questions about anything. Whatever we seek has to come from right motives, to desire to increase our knowledge of Him and our desire to become more like Him. We just have to understand that this side of Heaven we will not know all we would like to know. The day is coming however when we will know as we are known. I take comfort in that.
What a great teacher. We are blessed to have him.
Thorough is not boring, especially when it's about God and his living word of our salvation. I appreciate the way you teach. Praying for you and Bonnie always. Glory to the LORD our GOD in Christ Jesus ❤
Thanks for tackling (and publishing) such a hard question, head on
Thank you for that. Something that is never mentions is that God is fair and just and super democratic. We all inherited among other attributes; free will to choose, make a decision. Even the angels.
God is outside our time domain and sees the beginning and the end simultaneously.
God is pretend
We are not meant to know everything - (its not wrong to be curious depending on "your" motivation).... but thats what faith in God and Jesus is all about...Love =Trust...And some things are purely Gods (his secrets)... Dr. Barnett is right on target with this teaching. ❤✝
ASK YOUR GREAT AND WISE/IGNORANT DEMON PASTOR WHY HE CHOOSES TO IGNORE GOD AND THESE VERSES?*
JEREMIAH 10:21 - *For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.* (Jer 22:22, 23:1)
JEREMIAH 22:22 - The wind shall eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness.
JEREMIAH 23:1 - *Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.* (Eze 34:10, Mal 3:8)
EZEKIEL 34:10 - Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and *cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more;* for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
HOSEA 4:6 - *My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou has forgotten the law of thy GOD, I will also forget thy children.* (Zech 4:6)
HOSEA 6:6 - *For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of GOD more than burnt offerings.*
Agreed! God has revealed to us precisely what we need to know. It's okay to ponder some things are wonder the mysteries as long as we don't obsess over these things or create division on them. What's been provided in the scriptures is sufficient for our understanding of things.
Yes, because He had a perfect plan. And that plan included that men would CHOOSE Him because He is not a dictator. He wants our love for Him to be free, not forced. Now, choices require alternatives. Obedience is a choice. He wanted us to choose to obey Him, to chose to love Him. He knew we wouldn’t and He knew that it would take all of what has taken to happen in history: man’s fall and restoration. It was and is all a perfect plan from the start.
If mankind is dead in sin, and not one among mankind is righteous, how is any man supposed to choose God?
Not one man did...
The Lord Jesus said that man was unwilling in Matthew 23:37...
"“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
So, then, clearly, no man can, has, or will choose God.
Rather, this is why our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus saved us through the Cross.
@@dsp62122You make your choice. You choose to answer Him or not.
@jeffc5474
Jeff, you can boldly declare that as your testimony to me. I am but a mere man.
But, I am certain that will not be your testimony kneeling before your Lord, God, and Savior Jesus...
It was the Lord Jesus who sovereignly changed your heart and mind so that you made whatever choice it is that you just declared that you made.
What i dont understand is why God even created us, he saw all the pain, tears, suffering, killing, sorrow that would come????? 😢 😢😢
Because He knew of the creative nature we hold, compassion, beauty and inspiration. He knew the possibilities and the challenges. He knows and sees us as His children, that He loves.
@@jhenniceamorrow5936 O..M..G!!! Well I'm glad my Mum didn't love me like "god" supposedly does. "god' loved me like my father did - beat the tar out of me because he was in a bad mood - not because I'd done anything wrong!
Your construct of all knowing is known as prescription. It essentially says that God wrote the story first then pressed the play button. He even wrote Himself into the story. If true then there is nothing authentic about creation let alone man’s decisions or his will to humble himself to accept Christ. This is also known as gnostic divine determinism which is found in the reformed community, which is a flavor of deism. Another construct is he sees the full history of the world after the creation and actively plays in it (imminence) from a transcendent position, hence the I AM the Alpha and Omega. Mentions of predestination before the foundation of the world are service and blessings not salvation. Like in Eph. 1:4, what was predestined was anyone who believed would be holy and blameless. Hope this helps bring some perspective.
@ minute 9 - you just finished describing God all good and self-sustaining, then described how he let go of Satan. How is this even possible? If it was determined before the foundation of the world, then God essentially wrote a story and pressed the play button. Your humility, conviction, and love for Christ is all a sham and not genuine. Sounds like gnostic divine determinism. If God brought everything to pass then you eliminate the concept of evil since God is all good.
It's all revealed throughout the Bible... God wants a bride for His son. We too get celestial bodies, and we are presented as royal heirs. In the meantime He (in Spirit) wants to cohabit in our earthly vessels... As explained in Ephesians 2.
When God created Adam and Eve, he created them because he wanted a relationship with them. He created them in his image and in his likeness. He wanted them to love him and choose him above all else, the way that he loves us. And so he put them in a position to make a choice. Scripture says choose you this day whom you will serve as for me. In my house, we will serve the Lord. They didn't they chose self. And they did die spiritually. That's why God had to send Yeshua, Jesus to die as payment for our sin. When we are born again we are redeemed. We've been bought with a price the blood of the lamb. We are made to be restored. We are born again into newness of life. And we are restored to the life that Adam and eve had before the fall. Back to the original image and likeness of God. And we are saved by faith. And we are supposed to pursue the Lord. Not the world.
If mankind is dead in sin, and not one among mankind is righteous, how is any man supposed to choose God?
Not one man did...
The Lord Jesus said that man was unwilling in Matthew 23:37...
"“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
So, then, clearly, no man can, has, or will choose God.
Rather, this is why our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus saved us through the Cross.
@dsp62122 Then why does scripture say choose you this day? Whom you will serve as for me in my house. We will serve the Lord.
@eagle3351
As to mankind choosing his eternal destiny...
The Lord Jesus commanded mankind to choose life...
Deuteronomy 30:19-20...
"This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."
But, mankind chose death.
The Lord Jesus knew mankind would choose death, as of course He would have known all along.
So, all along, the Lord Jesus predestined that His future eternal sons and daughters would murder Him in the most torturous and ignominious way on a cross.
The Lord Jesus died on the Cross in order to create sons and daughters who were made in His image.
In order to be made in His image that meant His future eternal sons and daughters would have to come to the knowledge of good and evil molded together with free will.
Therefore, Adam and Eve had to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
So then, it was through the Cross that Jesus justified all the sins that followed Adam.
It was through the Cross that Jesus made known to all of Creation that He forgave all of mankind's sins committed following Adam.
By His resurrection the Lord Jesus made known that His future eternal sons and daughters were predestined for eternal life.
As Paul's revelation about the Lord Jesus's eternal Gospel revealed through 1 Corinthians 15:51-57...
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
So then, the Gospel declares that the Lord's eternal sons and daughters will freely declare that Jesus is Lord even though when we were commanded to choose life we all chose death...
Our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus predestined it all according to His eternal plan for mankind, that is, His future eternal sons and daughters.
Truly then, all honor and glory belong to our Lord Jesus, who is God over all to be forever praised.
So take heart...
This is the Gospel upon which we take our stand in Christ Jesus.
God knows best. Thanks Mr Barnett.
"God has committed all to disobedience that he might have mercy on all ... From him and through him and to him are all things." (Romans 11:32,36a)
Romans 8:19-21 is similar.
Fantastic young man, It's always an inspiration to hear your insight. Not all have what you have. Thanks so much
I absolutely love listening to you ❤ I have learned so much !
Thanks!
Perhaps this age is a great Trial to prove what is stronger, Love or Selfishness. God requires faith in Him to prove our Love of Him, even though we can't see Him. Satan has lost the trial, but is selfishly trying to take as many as he can with him to destruction. To accomplish a fair trial, God had to give us freewill and choices to make.
God Bless
❤✝️😊 i love it 😍
Thank you pastor God bless you
This video covers far more than the 20 minutes it takes to watch it.
Sophie, I applaud you for your question! Regrettably though, after 20 minutes of piffle it still begs a logical answer. Even though you are young (from the sound of your voice) you are seeing the inconsistencies the biblical narrative faces. The fact that a human has to do the explaining on behalf of the god of the Bible, and polish his image whilst doing so, already speaks volumes. Stay sceptical and trust your gut.
God knows everything 🙏 and in order for Him to honor His gift of Free Will, He needed to provide an item that would accomplish His divine plan. God bless you all ❤
@jaymeebarrington2509
Best explanation so far...
Thank You...
Wish "He," could of just started it of with "The New Millennium, and skipped the vast majority of creation having to way the consequences of sin with horrible pain and sufferings throughout all the ages past... I know we aren't to question God and I try not to... However to me, it would have been better if He would have never created it in the first place. 🫤 Before I was ever born I had no worries, no guilt, never sined, never felt pain, never experienced being betrayed by anyone or vise versa ect... ect... ect...
Blessings: James... 🕊
P.S. - Yes I struggle with bitterness towards God.
Trying however to over come... Amen... 🙏
@jamesharris9352 Please, my brother, don't be angry with God. Believe me when I say Jesus knows your pain and loves you more than you could ever imagine. I fully understand because I, too, endure heartache, but knowing God's love makes me love Him even more because He has never left my side nor yours.The enemy hates God so much that He wants to destroy us, but His Mercy and Grace said no. Trust Jesus, surrender and repent. We are going Home any minute now, and everything you experienced prior to coming to this painful world will be experienced again. Thank you for your honesty. You are a blessed individual with a loving ❤️ heart. I will keep you in prayer 🙏 ♥️ God bless you, my brother in Christ.
We don’t talk about it much, but we have to accept that from a human standpoint, good can be a real jerk sometimes.
So when the woman SAW THAT THE TREE WAS GOOD FOR FOOD, that it was PLEASANT TO THE EYES, and a tree DESIRABLE TO MAKE ONE WISE, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.
(Genesis 3:6)
For all that is in the world-the LUST OF THE FLESH, THE LUST OF THE EYES, and THE PRIDE OF LIFE-is not of the Father but is of the world.
(1 John 2:16)
Facts
it was all a plan to get rid of Satan for ever
The plan is based on the foundational words and action " experiment of choice" .
"Free Will" the painting of life and we're the paint of colours. For Gods image He creates is a board game back to the start, which is, unwaving trust through obedience, faith and love.
Evil played, evil failed, re-fresh of light and salvation becomes new.
I’ve often wondered if we will get to eat of the fruits of the tree of knowledge when we are in heaven with Jesus Christ. Once a season or year.....whenever.....We all gather to get a piece of the harvest and temporarily get a more heavenly experience while already there.
I felt like he wanted him to create a conscious…for him to be able to develop how to make a choice from doing something GOOD or bad
It’s HIStory, he’s the Storyteller. Listen to the Author of the Book of Life. 🙏
Amen ✝️
The fall of man is not the only aspect of this story. The point of this was to draw Satan out and expose him to us so we could know Satan and our sin
- fiery stones and the planets to come
I was just thinking this question in my mind and this popped up in my feed, God is amazing!
It's my belief that Lucifer was the first created, self aware, being. Whether he rebelled because The Father created a new order of beings(Adam) or not, i cannot say.
He didn't answer the question
This is the fundamental question. Suffering starts from the begining, but God knows outcome and why. Hard to understand as a human, since the outcome is what we wonder about. Those of us that asked this question are some of the chosen ones, as we seek guidance through the bible.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Now I have MORE questions. Why did God create Lucifer? God knew what was in his heart and knew he would fall, so why create such a being who would tempt humanity to also fall? Please, Pastor, please help me understand.
To show us that only God is perfect and that imperfection is also inherent in celestial beings, not just in us humans. Hence why we're instructed to be careful listening to angels (celestial beings)...
@@rtceables6524we are above the Angels, so we can demand they show who they are aligned with . We command the evil to leave , request the help of good Angels .
God allowed Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to demonstrate who He is by revealing His Goodness (His Grace) and to share Himself with His people (His Redemption) so that we can know Him, glorify Him and enjoy Him forever.
God is the Great Giver of all good things, including of Himself, that we may partake of His Kingdom and be filled with great joy.
The very act of His great gift to us (Himself), is glorifying to Him, and we are privileged to acknowledge that (the truth of who He is) by giving Him the glory that is due to Him.
The knowledge of His Truth produces in us a great gratitude accompanied by profound joy.
Amen
God wanted Adam and Eve to volunteer to know the pitfalls of the knowledge
Pretty sure it was the tree of knowledge of good and evil...
God was giving Adam free will to choose Good or Evil
The tree of good and evil is not the tree of good and evil; It is the tree of awareness.
so why did God say that He regret creating man, knowing beforehand they would fall to sin
I think it has something to do with free will.
Gen 6:6
- covering cherub, means ,head cherub
Thank God for you dr.John
As a testimony to the angels?
he was perfectly kept, but then iniquity was found...when was iniquity created in lucifer, and how did it get there?
From the video I understand it's like entropy; God is the One sustaining and as soon as He lets loose decay (imperfection, sin) will ensue.
@@sandorrabe5745 thank you!
He told them to not eat of the tree because he knew when they did, they would have to be removed from the tree of life. When he said they would die, it was because they would no longer have the option of living forever. Because he is a loving merciful God and he made it so that our lives would have and end so we didn't continue in doing evil forever. Death is our wage for sin but it is also mercy from God. The tree contained the knowledge of good and evil. But they knew good. They walked among him. Knew their creator loved them and provided everything they needed. The knowledge they sought was the knowledge of evil. The serpent lied to them and made them believe that they wouldn't die once they had that knowledge. God in his infinite wisdom had plan before he even started creation. Once we understand what the knowledge of evil cost us ,we can understand the price Jesus paid for us to eat from the tree of everlasting life. We were always going to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I used to say " if I was eve I wouldn't have eaten from the tree." But now I know that every single human would have and has eaten from the tree. We know what is right and what is wrong yet we still do wrong. We are no different from Adam and Eve. But God saw it all, knew everything, and still chose to create us. Because God loves us, wants to walk among us, help us, provide for us, protect us, have a relationship with us. That is why he still created us. He is God and we are not. We don't have to understand everything. All we have to understand is that God our amazing creator loves us because we belong to him and that he has made a way that we can be with him forever. Thank you Jesus ❤
Humans are tested in faith in will in obedience
I have figured it out. But I don't think anybody believes me. Pity.
I thought the answer would be “I don’t know “
I know the answer
What's a good proof that we are in a free love relationship with our partners? Our ability to say "no" and "leave" at any moment.
If there wasn't something that gave us the opportunity to say "no" to our partners, are we really in a free relationship? Or are we just captives?
If you are in a free love relationship then you are in sin. Period.
@@jeffc5474 lol, thank you LEGALIST FUNDAMENTALIST!
English is not my first language, what I meant is that in any true relationship based on love, FREEDOM is the proof that the relationship is truly based on love.
If you CAN'T leave a relationship, that is not a loving relationship, but a kidnapping.
DID I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR JEFF??!! (Who hurt you?) 🤔
How can there be no sin in heaven without affecting freewill. Do we still have our same personalities that make us unique from one another. Maybe off topic but it is something I think about.
Question if lucifer was with god covering the throne why does he say he will ascend above the stars he is already there ?
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I find this difficult to believe because the user name is always different.
@@user-vy7iw4lf5o I have access to two I pads. That’s why there are two different user names❤
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@@sandynelson6229Thank you❤
Sophie's question could have been backed up to the creation of Lucifer. If he knew Lucifer was going to want glorified why did he create him?
This is extremely powerful testimony.
- well they are going out to pick an apple off the tree of knowledge of good and evil MacIntosh
God makes all things cooperate for the good of those he has already chosen in the Beloved One.
Romans 8 : 28
Ephesians 1 : 6
Proverbs 16 : 4
Ephesians 1 : 3 - 6
I differ in the analogy. I do not believe God to have purposely disconnected to prove something, this would indicate that God did create evil, its the choices we make that disconnects us to God. Like the analogy Jesus gave of lusting in your mind, this is sin, even the apostle James said, “once sin has conceived then it brings forth sin.” Lucifer allowed pride to take hold of his thoughts, this was his disconnect and downfall.
The Tree was put in the garden as a choice and a representation of God and His son. The tree of good and evil represents the Father who is Omniscience, the tree of life represents the son who brought forth life and can give life through the attributes God gave him, so the son has the Omnipotent attribute of the Father in order to create all things whether in heaven or earth.
It’s when disobedience took place is when they found themselves naked, which means they were now separated from God, the lifeline.
Out of God’s love is the reason He put the tree in the garden, so that man can at anytime choose on his own, without choice there is no love, just robots.
Lucifer was in the presence of Father and son, he was the covering cherub, which means he was the protector of God’s sovereign law, the stones of fire [Ten Commandments] which represents the character of God, a transcript of His and His son’s character.
God the Father represents the tree of good and evil because He already knew about sin, for He foresaw before anything was even created. But the son, he knew no sin, he didn’t even know what the experience is like, but he was willing to take the place of man in the case he was to sin, this plan was in place before the creation of anything.
It makes more sense in the original text the enuma elish. Genesis is a plagiarism that made changes
Was the Angel's part of the group in Gen. 1:26 us who is us?
he knows we needed temtation to test our tru love for him
Why does he need to test us? He's supposed to know everything!
So eve falling into temptation was god's plan
Remember also God said that he made the sun, moon and stars. We are taught the sun is a star. So who is wrong the creator or really smart humans..
Because Eden was both a paradise and a prison.
Like your family tree, it’s not a literal tree. They learned right from wrong, and used that knowledge for their gain. They ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
1. Why did GOD create us in the first place? While knowing that 90% of us are suffering badly. Only Satan would create this world we live in. 2. If god existed he wouldn't have created me.
That’s not what the Bible says, you are wrong.
God is a sovereign God, He can do what he wants. Sin is inherited and we never get the choice that Adam and Eve had. As a result, many of us will be born into sin and thrown into the burning trash bin of God that is hell, and somehow this is the divine plan. If God didn't know, then He's not omniscient. If God knew we would fall and that people would be born into sin without choice, then by human standards God isn't just. The path to salvation is narrow and not everyone who call themselves Christian will be saved, but if the Christian God is real then He can still do what He wants regardless of how we judge it.
Not true. We get a choice every day, every moment.
@@ramonavoight5656 Wrong. Sinful nature is by definition hereditary from Adam, and we're predisposed to sin according to it.
@@ramonavoight5656 If we are free to choose every day, then theologically there's no need for Jesus. Because the story of the origin of sin doesn't matter, or does it?
Let me just say that I don't mean to offend you or to degrade what you believe at all. But when it comes to Scripture, Jesus is necessary because we can't be righteous on our own. If we could simply choose righteousness, the Bible would be unnecessary.
So…no answer!
The Tree of Life SYMBOLIZED perfected Adam. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil SYMBOLIZED perfected EVE.
Source? Proof?
@@ramonavoight5656 Revelations from God have been happening in the last 2,000 years. As Jesus said, he had yet many things to say. The Spirit of Truth will reveal all that is not in the Bible.
The Tree of Life represents our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus.
@@dsp62122 The Spirit of Truth will definitely straighten everything out.
(Short version) we have to TRUST God no matter what. Even explaining it can be weakening your faith.
God reqlly never says why He does anything. But he does tell us why He had to die. But I dont see any explanation of the why. Our finite minds make it impossible to understand the why. Again He does give a why in the finite realm, thats clear. And even then its still difficukt for us to grasp. Sometimes learning the whys will derail your faith. Just accept it and TRUST Him.
Wouldn't trust him as far as I can blow snot - sorry...
This explanation wasn’t enough for me. I have been struggling with the same question.
Simple, the allowance of letting them enact in free will. He did the same for the angels because neither they or us should fall short of the glory of God.
I gave an answer above.. God had to give us choice love can not exist without choice and free will to chose. If you can't say no, then yes means nothing. See my extended comment above
@@justice8718 I get what you are saying but I’m thinking as a parent myself not a Bible scholar. Us, earthly parents know if we leave a toddler by a bush road, chances are great that a car will hit the kid so we protect our children. I have a hard time stomach it down that God let his first two human kids who were innocent minded to face such peril. They didn’t even realize that they were naked…they didn’t fully comprehend I’m sure what it meant to eat from the tree and the consequences of it.
@@RichardFarrell-oz1uw same answer as I have given to justice8718
I dont understand all the laughing. Especially at a child who is trying to understand.
I don't know of course because I wasn't there, but I think the laughing was because it really was a good question, a tough question and probably a more advanced question than anyone imagined a child asking. I don't think it's a mean laugh, I think it's more of a "wow nobody expected that!" Kind of laugh. I'm sure her parents were proud and beaming when they heard it.😂
@@TheMarvelousmike72 I would have been a proud parent. Tough question!
The more you try to prove predestination the more confusing it becomes. Just like Adam and Eve had free will so did Satan. Christ was ordained before the foundations of the earth which proves God knows everything but in is wisdom he gave man free will knowing the future of his choice. God proves his righteousness in Romans chapter 3. Calvin’s view of predestination is not righteousness in the way that Romans chapter 3 shows it proving we can trust Him
God is HOLY and ALL ABOUT VICTORY.
"God is Light and Love (1 John 1:5; 4:8). He "dwells in unapproachable light" (1 Timothy 6:16). Because He is holy, He calls us also to be holy.
But holiness, for a human being, can come only through temptation. Adam was created innocent, without even the knowledge of good and evil. God wanted him to be holy; and for this, God allowed him to be tested.
The tree of knowledge of good and evil had been created by God Himself and was not evil in itself. It existed in a world over which God pronounced the words, "Very good" (Genesis 1:31). It was very good, because it afforded Adam the opportunity to be holy, by resisting temptation.
The Bible says, “Consider it all joy when you encounter various temptations” (James 1:2), because temptations give us the opportunity to partake of God's holiness (Hebrews 12:10) and become “perfect and complete” (James 1:4).
As we look at the holiness of Jesus, we do not look at that inherent holiness that He had as God, for that would be no example for us. We look at Him as one “made like His brethren in all things” and “tempted in every respect as we are, yet without sinning” (Hebrews 2:17; 4:15).
Jesus is our Forerunner (Hebrews 6:20), Who ran the same race that we have to run, paving the way for us to follow. And so, He says to us, "Follow Me" (John 12:26). And looking unto Him Who has run the race ahead of us, we too can run with endurance, without fainting or losing heart (Hebrews 12:1-4).
Jesus endured every temptation that can ever come to any man. He was tempted “in every point, as we are.” This is clearly taught in Hebrews 4:15. And this is our encouragement. Jesus exercised no power that is not offered to us by God today. He met and overcame temptation, as a man, in the strength given to Him by His Father through the Holy Spirit.
Satan has always told man that God's laws are burdensome and impossible to be obeyed. Jesus came as a man and exposed that lie of Satan by His life of perfect obedience. If we had any temptation to overcome, or any command of God to obey, that Jesus did not face, then on that point we could have an excuse for sinning. And if Jesus had lived that perfect life, without the weakness of our flesh or with power unavailable to us, then His life could not be an example that we could follow, nor could it be an encouragement to us in the moments when we are tempted. But Jesus demonstrated through His life as a man on earth, that the power God makes available to us is sufficient to meet the demands of His law that we see in His Word.
We do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with out weakness, but one who has been tempted in all things as we are (Hebrews 4:15).
The sinless life of Jesus is God's demonstration to the world that it is possible for man through the power of the Holy Spirit to have full victory over sin and to obey God joyfully. If we abide in Him, we CAN “walk even as He walked” (1 John 2:6)."
From Zac Poonen - Victory is Possible by the Power of the Holy Spirit
The Lord god said we cannot have this tree because it is used to reach the other tree we can have forever. One tree is eternal life as light that has no sides to itself and cannot be witnessed first. Use the tree with two sides in the mind to see ourselves and evolve to love [neither side] and then go back to ligh-t as Lie cross was the tree of two sides made in the mind just to learn to see without the sides of think. When the Lord god said, You cannot have the tree of the knowledge of good and evil it caused the relative response to want the tree he said you cannot have, This is one false side made in the mind. BUT.. the lord god meant.."You can have the tree of life forever" by simply saying we cannot have this one. This tree has many deaths to reach love from sin and then back to light. Heaven is rev chapter 22 it is there at either side of the river was the tree of life.
To test all those He chose from before the foundation of the Earth that will reign with Him for eternity in His Kingdom.
Everything God created seemingly has balance. The universe seems to work off of a balance and counterbalance. Two forces pulling against each other. In order to have free will, this seems to need to exist. Not sure, just spitballing
God destroyed the world of old by a flood because the world was full of violence (Genesis 6: 13).
The Bible starts with the Spirit of God hovering over the face of the deep (Genesis 1:2).
Satan was filled with violence by "the abundance of his trade.". (Ezekiel 28: 16)
Its the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
Thats a HUGE difference.
Get your facts straight.
Its a huge responsibility to teach Torah to a large group of people.
It is a important question n not funny
I know. It's distracting.
ikr, I have been asking that same Qs ever since I began reading the Bible, over 40yrs ago.
"That's is a really good question." He knows that. When people are faced with the seriousness of the reality of life, most want to laugh.
@@nbt3663- I actually suspect those people are laughing because (unlike that young lady & St Augustine) they’ve never pondered the actual Qs. God says in the Bible we are to approach life (and heaven) with a similar mindset as that of children (why?) because of the sheer purity of their young hearts & minds, of which, the sinful carnal world (aka satan & his minions) are constantly working to lead astray & corrupt.
Keep in mind JB approaches scripture from a Calvinistic perspective... because he is a self admitted Calvinist.
He created the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. Fix that
Gen 1:26 reads, "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness."
Man has been created in the image of God. God is Sovereign. Man has been given "free will" (ie Sovereignty) to choose whether to love, trust and obey God. This is partially what it means to be made in the Image of God.
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil allows man to have and exercise free will or his sovereignty. If the Tree was not in the Garden, we cannot truly say that man has been given a choice. And we couldn't say man is then made in His Image or to be considered the 'crown' of His creation.
Just like you can't have good without evil and light without dark
No it's the other way around.
You cannot have evil, without good first existing.
You CAN have good without evil. That's the very definition of God and what we aspire to be.
But you cannot have evil without good first.
Basic evil is the absence of good.
Intentional evil is the refusal of good.
Why did God create the tree of the knowledge of good and evil knowing Adam and Eve would partake of it?
The answer was implied in Genesis 3:22 then further unveiled throughout Scripture...
The Lord Jesus had an eternal plan for mankind to be His future eternal sons and daughters before the creation of Creation.
In order to create His future eternal sons and daughters the fall of mankind through Adam was put in place in order to create for Himself sons and daughters who were made in His image.
In order to be truly made in the image of our Lord Jesus, it was required by design that all of mankind through Adam come to the knowledge of good and evil molded together with free will.
It was for the very purpose of creating sons and daughters who were made in His image and knowing that sin and death would ensue that the Lord Jesus predestined Himself to be murdered by His own future eternal sons and daughters in the most torturous and ignominious manner on a cross.
In that way, through the Cross, mankind's sins that followed Adam were justified by the Lord Jesus Christ.
In that way, through the Cross, the Lord Jesus's righteousness was revealed to all of Creation by forgiving all of mankind's sins committed following Adam.
Indeed, then, it was through our Lord Jesus Christ alone that the Lord Jesus's eternal plan of redemption of mankind was finished on the Cross...
As our Lord Jesus Christ declared in John 19:30...
“It is finished.”
So it is finished.
Therefore, it is through our Lord Jesus alone that redemption came to all of mankind...
Having redeemed mankind through the Cross it was through the Lord's resurrection that the Lord Jesus revealed to mankind and to all of the rulers and authorities in the heavenlies above and the earth below His eternal Gospel of salvation for mankind...
That is, since Adam, from generation through generation, the Lord Jesus's future eternal sons and daughters have been coming to the knowledge of good and evil molded with free will.
This process of Creation will continue until that last generation, when the fullness of the gentiles whose names were written in the Book of Life before the creation of Creation have come to fulfillment.
Then, during that final generation on a day and hour unknown, the Day of the Lord Jesus will come upon all of mankind and Creation like a thief in the night at the last trumpet sound...
On that day, the Lord Jesus will be revealed in all of His everlasting glory, and all of the Lord's sons and daughters will be made known to all of Creation.
On that Day, the Lord Jesus will be revealed in all of His everlasting glory...
That is, at the Name of Jesus, every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the Father.
On that Day, the eternal sons and daughters will be made known to all of Creation...
That is, in a flash, in the twinkling of the Lord's eye, all will be made incorruptible, and all will be made immortal.
On that Day, Paul's revelation of the Lord Jesus's eternal Gospel through Corinthians 15:51-57 will be fulfilled...
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”
“Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
...Then the Lord's eternal sons and daughters, together with their Lord Jesus, will live forever in a new heavens and a new earth.
This is why the Lord Jesus made the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Maybe it was a test and man kind failed GOD knew that . He had already planed JEDSUS as the lamb. To save us ??????
How about: "The author of the story needed an excuse to move the plot forward and came up with that nonsense." Which lapsarianism would that be :)
Do you think that the trees represent Jesus and Satan 🙏🙏
The trees represent CHOICE...without it there is no free will. We are presented with 2 choices... follow christ and obey him. Or follow satan and obey him... God says IF you love me keep my commandments... Satan says do as thou wilt, you WONT SURELY die... who will you follow? You can't serve 2 masters
No
This is how some people think. I'm currently just fine with existing and that makes me think that it's just fine to force other people into existence even though they might hate existing. And if it turns out that they do hate existing too bad so sad for them, I don't care, I'm going to force them into existence regardless of how they might feel.
Are you putting these words into the mouth of God? Because I was really confused there for a moment.
People (healthy, normal people) don't hate existing. The will to live is the strongest will there is. God would know that because He put it in us.
But He never meant for us to just exist. Genesis and Revelations are two wonderful bookends of the perfection God designed our lives to be.
I'm an atheist and there are a lot of healthy normal people that hate existing because they hate seeing all of the suffering throughout the world because they are caring compassionate people and that's why they're antinatalists.
@@Naiaworship those type of people are like this. I'm currently just fine with someone forcing me to have sex and because I'm just fine with it that makes me think that it's just fine to force other people to have sex even though they might hate it. But if it turns out that they do hate it then too bad so sad for them, I don't care, I'm going to force them to have sex regardless of how they feel.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5ynSo you are a psychopath.
Scripture tells us why.
Genesis 3:22-23 KJVS
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: [23] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Hebrews 2:6-11 KJVS
But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? [7] Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: [8] Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. [9] But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. [10] For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. [11] For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
Men needed to be made spiritually mature by Jesus Christ.
This man seemed to stumble around with the question when in my heart and spirit it's quite easy. In order for love to be true love it has to be tested. I would like to think that that the real reason for God placing the tree there was a way to test and see if their hearts where in the right place. The tree also resembles choice because God gives us free will and allows us to make our own choices. Love is true when the decision is made to choose love. Otherwise we would be programmed to love and programed love is not love. Lucifer had free will and made a choice of sin, which was pride. In order for the problem to not reoccur there had to be a symbolic decision of choice in which the purpose of the tree of (good and evil) choose this day in whom you will serve as the scripture tells us (Joshua 24:15)
Sin and redemption is a question of chicken and egg, which came first. The answer is God came first, He was, He had been, He has been, He will be and H will be forever and ever.
Yep - just popped out of a bottle like the ultimate genie - fully equipped to build whole universes with a wave of his hand LOL.
In the beginning everything was good that God made. Only Satan could have somehow engineered (perhaps by grafting), a tree which gives knowledge of both good and evil. The Tree of Life is in the new earth, but that wicked tree is not ( see book of Revelation)
James said you cannot get a tree with both good and bad fruit neither does a spring produce both sweet and bitter water. Jesus said that a tree is known by its fruit and this wicked tree brought death into the earth. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil represents the ‘confusion by mixture’ (within the Law). Satan is the author of confusion. Babylon is also confusion by mixture.
Paul calls the Law the law of sin and death….but he also said adversely that the Law is good. So we see this mixture in the Law. Remember, death is opposite to Life ( the tree of Life). Jesus is the Way the Truth AND the Life. Both the Law and Christianity are full of mixture. Jesus alone has no mixture at all. Satan came to him and found no mixture in Christ. Satan found nothing of himself in Jesus. This is one of the many many reasons why I love Jesus x
The fruit isn’t good fruit or bad fruit. The fruit in question gave knowledge of good and evil.
@@jeffc5474 See my edit 👆. However you look at it, this fruit did bring death into the earth. And that is not good at all. Death is the last enemy to be conquered by Jesus.
God did not create the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Have you not noticed how invisible and feeble your supreme being seems to be to rational folks who can think?