SpaceX's Massive Rocket Explodes Due to Rapid Unscheduled Digging

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • SpaceX performed the debut launch of their next Generation Starship-Superheavy launch vehicle, and it didn't make it to orbit. But it was still very much a case of Excitment delivered as the vehicle destroyed its launchpad, had engines fail and parts explode as it ascenced, before finally spinning end over end until it was destroyed in a giant cloud of cryogenic propellents.
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  • @rescyn1190
    @rescyn1190 Před rokem +5810

    Watching what is effectivley a skyscraper do several cartwheels in the air was something I'll remember. Surprised the connections to Starship were strong enough to withstand those forces.

    • @acephantom903
      @acephantom903 Před rokem +285

      That surprised me too. I thought that the lower stage wasn't supposed to have a lot of structural integrity without being full of fuel.

    • @marcusberger7324
      @marcusberger7324 Před rokem +198

      probably the autogenous pressurization worked really good to stabilize hull integrity to say it in star trek terms ;o)

    • @TheVergile
      @TheVergile Před rokem +296

      for real. that inside camera on the second stage engines not showing any flexing or movement was unreal

    • @TEN-ve8mp
      @TEN-ve8mp Před rokem +9

      EXACTLY ResCyn!

    • @Ekstrax
      @Ekstrax Před rokem +91

      @@TheVergile yeah i think the the image froze at one point though, as at the start you could see some smoke and stuff but then nothing
      definitely very amazing to see a skyscraper do cartwheels and stay in one piece

  • @Bizob2010
    @Bizob2010 Před rokem +1300

    When I saw it start tumbling, I was immediately reminded of many of my KSP rockets 🤣

    • @porterejohn
      @porterejohn Před rokem +154

      and the brief hope that somehow I can regain control...

    • @Bizob2010
      @Bizob2010 Před rokem +50

      @@porterejohn Hehe, I must be more of a pessimist: when that happened in my rockets, I pretty much immediately reverted to hanger 🤣

    • @acephantom903
      @acephantom903 Před rokem +13

      Seeing the engines disintegrate did it for me.

    • @namewarvergeben
      @namewarvergeben Před rokem +83

      And the very noticable angle of attack (5:14 in this video). This must have been the most Kerbal launch yet! I hope one day they'll name one of these rockets "Untitled Spacecraft"

    • @SteveMHN
      @SteveMHN Před rokem +5

      Mine too. I'm good at dodgy kerbal vehicles and even better at disaster launches.

  • @MIflyer5124
    @MIflyer5124 Před rokem +29

    That launch reminded me of an old story from the early days of the Atlas ICBM program. An Atlas was launched and the assembled group of program engineers watched anxiously. Groans broke out and became yells of dismay as the vehicle loss stability and performed a total of three loops before exploding. But while all this was happening there was one man who was cheering loudly, sounding like he was a rodeo. After the vehicle blew up the others turned to the cheering man and angrily asked what was wrong with him, didn't he realize that was a serious failure? He beamed back at them, clearly delighted. "Did you see those loops? That was fabulous! I'm with the structures group!"

  • @notme5844
    @notme5844 Před rokem +461

    Tumbling around at nearly mach 2 and not immediately disintigrating was incredibly impressive to me.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Před rokem +12

      yup, kind of a "silver lining" to the launch! Get it, silver lining, as in the stainless steel color?, LOL LOL, :D

    • @IvanTre
      @IvanTre Před rokem +14

      35 km altitude..

    • @core-experience
      @core-experience Před rokem +4

      @@IvanTre Still quite a lot of drag for something that light relatively speaking.

    • @Aviator27J
      @Aviator27J Před rokem +9

      Chuck Yeager could've saved it

    • @falconwaver
      @falconwaver Před rokem +1

      Didn't the challenger do that when the ET ruptured?

  • @fepatton
    @fepatton Před rokem +1481

    As we were watching the launch, my son said, “That’s the most KSP launch ever!”

    • @solarisone1082
      @solarisone1082 Před rokem +162

      Pretty sure everyone who has played KSP was thinking the same thing!

    • @Vollmilch-Joghurt
      @Vollmilch-Joghurt Před rokem +88

      @@solarisone1082 yes xD I was in a discord conversation with some firends and i was screaming how kerbal that shit is and we all agreed that it looked like one of our rockets... starting to do cartwheels and you try to switch engines ona nd off to get back on track xDDDD crazy shit

    • @programablenuance
      @programablenuance Před rokem +88

      Elon Musk: "I just bought Kerbal Space Program 2"
      ... "Why does the bill say you bought 100 acres of land in Texas then"

    • @mileskessler2905
      @mileskessler2905 Před rokem +61

      me who plays KSP: "totally recoverable... Adjust the rotation...stop the yaw...oh too late."

    • @13orrax
      @13orrax Před rokem +41

      they forgot to check the stage sequencing

  • @philipkudrna5643
    @philipkudrna5643 Před rokem +489

    Finally. The first serious and technically sound analysis of this event - in the Scott Manley quality we are used to expect. This as definitely worth the wait! Thank you very much! I also believe that stage zero is the main challenge - I never understood, why they did not build a proper flame diverter. It‘s quite different, if you start a solo starship with three engines or a super heavy booster with 33 engines. The crater is impressively massive!

    • @kevintieman3616
      @kevintieman3616 Před rokem +21

      I think were so desperate for flight data they did not want to completely redesign the OLM before the first flight. I would not be suprised if they end up completely rebuilding the OLM.

    • @matthewerwin4677
      @matthewerwin4677 Před rokem +10

      Money and time. A proper flame diverter would probably add a year to this project.

    • @mick0matic
      @mick0matic Před rokem +11

      @@matthewerwin4677 surely not if they built it right away like they planned to do initially at cape canaveral.

    • @ahfreebird
      @ahfreebird Před rokem +9

      @@kevintieman3616 I don't think they're going to have much choice. The soil underneath is obviously compromised, a lot of the concrete is obliterated, and I presume a good portion of what remains is damaged beyond salvage. Certainly it would be cheaper to just start over.

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis Před rokem +5

      ​@@matthewerwin4677 : A proper flame diverter might be a few months, not a year.

  • @Darisiabgal7573
    @Darisiabgal7573 Před rokem +26

    I think there are a couple of problems.
    1. The one thing you noted was the lag, my concern is that the launch clamps held the vehicle a bit too long.
    2. Once it actually started moving it actually had pretty good acceleration, i will have to inspect the telemtry, but it seems to be higher than net 2 meters per second.
    - So I wonder if they thought they werent getting enough power, increased power to compensate for sticky launch clamp, and when that clamp finally released sent a shock wave up the system causing an O2 leak.
    -The problem might not have been immediately obvious, when the craft passed max Q tears in the skin of the craft might have allowed reconvergece shock wave to damage internal components.
    I think their rocket has too much fin on the top and not enough steering on the bottom. I would have the boost stage shorter and wider as this would give more control. Having it shorter means you have it higher of the pad and the ejecta is over a wider area, however see bottom, given the ISP this is hardly going to make that much of a difference.
    BTW, i did note the debris, if you look carefully, as the main engines clear the smoke there were a couple of large pieces of debris following them. It could be the case that erosion of the launch base caused the launch clamps to bind. After the rocket launched there was a huge piece of debris that i spotted behind the Launch tower.
    This ISP of those 327 which translates to an exhausted velocity of 3240 m/s or about 7000 mph. At the center of the plume its pretty much a gigantic plasma torch. Imagine that cutting through concrete.

    • @beardy4831
      @beardy4831 Před rokem

      If there was a problem just after separation from pad, better to let it get as high as possible before destruction. Otherwise that's a big explosion going off at ground level and all the pad infrastructure would be toast. As well as probably damage to surrounding homes and buildings.

  • @bretthoffstadt
    @bretthoffstadt Před rokem +81

    Thanks Scott. I hadn't thought that blast debris knocked out a couple of engines (and possibly more damage) but now that seems very likely. Great recap and analysis!

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 Před rokem +3

      you are correct
      a few engines failed to ignite
      several more were either damaged by the pad debris, or they tore themselves apart, along with the hydraulics being damaged
      the rocket was damaged BEFORE it cleared the tower, possibly before it lifted off the pad
      this was not a successful flight by any means
      also, the 6 NASA manned flights to the moon had a Lunar Lander that functioned as its own launch pad for the part of the spacecraft that took off from the moon.
      The chances of landing this Spacex rocket on the moon, without it toppling over from settling, and then taking off again without the rocket blast causing similar damage to the engines, are highly questionable.

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K Před rokem +1

      @@kenwittlief255 You can see pieces of debris falling off from the rocket's midsection during the early ascent. Might be the debris from HPU failure.

    • @FleetAdmiralDouglas
      @FleetAdmiralDouglas Před rokem

      @@kenwittlief255 They are not going to land the whole rocket on the moon, just the top half (Starship). The rocket they designed for it will also have rockets on the side to guide it down. With the Moon having much lower gravity than Earth, they will not need nearly as much thrust as they would here.

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 Před rokem

      The engineer in me thinks that flying rock debris on the moon or mars is going to be a problem.
      Personally I think "the Apollo way" of doing mars (and moon) missions, is going to be the only method.
      You NEED a launch platform. Can't chance a rock flying up causing damage.

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K Před rokem

      @@fredfred2363 Don't forget that Starship will take off on its own from the moon or Mars, so no big boosters with 33 sea-level Raptor engines to take into account.

  • @jaydonbooth4042
    @jaydonbooth4042 Před rokem +552

    Lmao, your live reaction was appropriate Scott. Also, holy crap that crater under the OLM was way worse than it looked in the first pic available.

    • @SeanCMonahan
      @SeanCMonahan Před rokem +47

      Right? They may have more Starships ready to go, but they sure as hell need a new launchpad lol

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Před rokem +41

      @@SeanCMonahan What they also need is a flame diverter and a good deluge system. Still, at least B7 carved out some concrete and earth to get things started. 🙂

    • @JULIAN11.
      @JULIAN11. Před rokem +20

      @@SeanCMonahan Reports have begun to come through that certain hangar near Starship OLIT in Cape Canaveral is preparing to move a big ring to Brownsville port...
      The door in the mount was blown open and is probably somewhere several hundred meters away, the extremely heavy blast reinforced door, so did the door on the Booster QD so it is probable that the entire inside of the table is toasted
      Either way, I think it is a good idea to whatch and see what they will do, they have to change things for the next flight; concrete won't magically resist Superheavy

    • @NeonVisual
      @NeonVisual Před rokem

      @@SeanCMonahanThe OLM isn't a launchpad.

    • @michaelangelosiracusa
      @michaelangelosiracusa Před rokem +9

      Also, is that Tom Scott standing behind in a light grey hoody?

  • @timschafer2536
    @timschafer2536 Před rokem +1217

    It would be very interesting to know if a majority of failures can be back traced to damage due to flying debris of stage zero. I would not be surprised if some engines were struck.

    • @radekmoh8452
      @radekmoh8452 Před rokem +25

      Jeśli błędy z platforma startową są tak oczywiste to dlaczego dostali zgodę na start.

    • @hankkingsley9183
      @hankkingsley9183 Před rokem +77

      I would bet on it

    • @charliebrown8278
      @charliebrown8278 Před rokem +208

      More importantly, it definitely looks like hydraulics were messed up badly. Probably no gimballing once they failed. The new all electric gimbal will solve that. Well… that and stop heaving massive chunks of concrete at it.

    • @fireofenergy
      @fireofenergy Před rokem +84

      Computer modeling of the concrete under such a force must have been premature. Microscopic cracks torn into gaping potholes which allow "reverse eddies" to kick large chunks of concrete everywhere, possibly even against the obvious flow of force.

    • @spaceranger3728
      @spaceranger3728 Před rokem +88

      The Shuttle's first flight had a massive impulse like that that reflected back and knocked hundreds of tiles off and nearly exceeded the body flap hinge moment, which would have been a loss-of-vehicle situation. It was a long time until the next flight and they had to install the water suppression system and do a lot of mods. Too many engines to keep track of on this vehicle. It's a kludge.

  • @TerrAkon3000
    @TerrAkon3000 Před rokem +8

    I am honestly impressed how long and how many individual failures it took for the thing to explode. Great video.

  • @bunnypeople
    @bunnypeople Před rokem +22

    Literally any engineer worth their weight could've told you that that pad was going to fail spectacularly

  • @RinAldrin
    @RinAldrin Před rokem +497

    I think my favorite part about watching this was when I noticed how the vapor trail was moving. I have played enough KSP to recognize that effect and I instantly went "welp it won't make it"

    • @TheRiskyBrothers
      @TheRiskyBrothers Před rokem +155

      Yeah this really has "KSP launch that's not gonna get to orbit but you're still trying" energy

    • @47CryXMA
      @47CryXMA Před rokem +39

      Yeah, as soon as I saw it start to be off-angle, I was thinking the same thing.
      Ah well. What we need next, is a KSP launch pad mod that does away with the flame diverters.

    • @fst-timer7107
      @fst-timer7107 Před rokem +64

      REVERT TO VEHICLE ASSEMBLY BUILDING

    • @protokardas
      @protokardas Před rokem +22

      Flatspins mean you will not be going to space today.

    • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
      @MAGGOT_VOMIT Před rokem

      Who invited the 'tards wearing the masks at Scott's party?? 😷😷👈😂
      Looks like they're at a benefit for Skid Row. 🤣

  • @EASYTIGER10
    @EASYTIGER10 Před rokem +448

    I'm amazed the 2 bits of Starship stayed attached to each other for as long as they did. The stresses as it twisted and turned must have been incredible.

    • @liquidpatriot4480
      @liquidpatriot4480 Před rokem +64

      ​@MrGriff305 it's called RND, for testing new technology, not for riding yet silly.

    • @NBDY-lp9vp
      @NBDY-lp9vp Před rokem +9

      I don't think so. The air is quite thin at that altitude - about as thin as on the surface of mars or so no much resistance. Also the spin was slow so again no much stress. But had it kept falling at some point it would have started spinning faster and bending of the airframe would have exceeded structural limits..

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Před rokem +40

      ​@MrGriff305 SLS did a fine job, but SLS isn't really new. The RS-25s are flight proven, pre used Shuttle hardware, and the SRBs are Shuttle SRBs just one segment extended. They essentially build a new fuel tank around existing hardware. Starship is completely new, including the launch tower, which seem to need some additional attention

    • @liquidpatriot4480
      @liquidpatriot4480 Před rokem +17

      @MrGriff305 Different methods of RND. SpaceX is not the first or the last to go this route. And people won't fly till it's flight ready like dragon. But if that bothers you, yes there is always SLS.

    • @anony3615
      @anony3615 Před rokem +4

      I feel better about my kerbal space program failures that did (exactly this) knowing even professionals IRL had this problem.

  • @BennyKleykens
    @BennyKleykens Před rokem +7

    We're not going to be sending humans to Mars anytime soon.

  • @atigerclaw
    @atigerclaw Před rokem +8

    That was the most Kerbal launch failure I've seen out of Space-X so far. Most people would say just exploding is the most Kerbal. But ask yourself if the following sounds like literally everyone's experience with a KSP launch at some point:
    You have this oversized stack on the pad, and stupid amounts of engines. Something breaks almost the moment you launch because there's always that one staging error... Worried, but undaunted, you pilot the inherently unstable and off-axis-thrust rocket to medium altitude, but you can already see the control slipping away as the air gets thinner and the CoM of the rocket shifts to the upper stage. It begins to slowly tumble, but your struts hold. However, the tumble ruins your outbound trajectory, so the rocket starts to fall back into the atmosphere. You desperately try to recover, but it just continues to cartwheel, and finally something snaps, and the chain-explosions begin. You enjoy the show before reverting to VAB.

  • @kwuite1738
    @kwuite1738 Před rokem +131

    I love that after it failed my immediate response was, "Can't wait for the Scott Manley video explaining what I just saw."

    • @lewisvanatta639
      @lewisvanatta639 Před rokem +2

      You were not the only one! ;-) (Although Angry Astronaut had a pretty good video this morning, too).

    • @Forke13
      @Forke13 Před rokem

      Haha, me too. The second the explosion has passed. 😅

    • @nagualdesign
      @nagualdesign Před rokem +2

      Same. I didn't even bother to rewatch the launch.

    • @tomt5054
      @tomt5054 Před rokem +3

      Why some people think it was success? To me it was failed no excuse. I’m sure they’re not planning for it to explode just collect data.

    • @deadoon
      @deadoon Před rokem +5

      ​@@tomt5054 Objectives. It completed it's primary objectives and was able to complete some of it's secondary ones. The fact that it didn't complete all of them is not means for failure, it just means that more work needs to be done to rectify areas which are deficient. Some of those deficiencies may not have been able to be known prior to real world testing.

  • @dillduvee7040
    @dillduvee7040 Před rokem +747

    I'm so happy they actually show you what's going on in real time. Feels like I'm watching a KSP video haha

    • @johnbigelson7471
      @johnbigelson7471 Před rokem +17

      Except they didnt - notice the engine active diagram didn't correspond immediately to the real-time losses.

    • @daansteeman5227
      @daansteeman5227 Před rokem +13

      Right! Being to low and just keeping it more vertical to compensate... if there ever was the kerbal thing to do... it's that. "crap, it isn't going the way I want, oh well, just fudge the flightpath a bit" xD

    • @DonnaPinciot
      @DonnaPinciot Před rokem +27

      @@johnbigelson7471 The systems probably can't detect it immediately. It could be a few moments before it stops receiving data, or it notices the fault.

    • @aaronwestley3239
      @aaronwestley3239 Před rokem

      Well for starters he's not born in America

    • @Dangerooman
      @Dangerooman Před rokem +13

      @@johnbigelson7471 ever heard of data transmission speed and delay? the hud we are seeing might not even be directly connected to the actual flight computers or anything, just done independently by one of the production crew or something as well.

  • @Aurumai
    @Aurumai Před rokem +105

    This is the first video of yours I've seen and I've got to say I'm impressed with how thorough you are about explaining your theories and supporting them with technical information. Great video!

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ Před rokem +1

      He's a psychopath

    • @ghislainedidntkillherself
      @ghislainedidntkillherself Před rokem +8

      you should definitely subscribe to him. he is arguably one of the most important space communicators. and he is also just a lovable dude

    • @si2foo
      @si2foo Před rokem +2

      he does this all the time.

    • @Ottee2
      @Ottee2 Před rokem +1

      This is nominal for Scott Manley videos. We've grown to expect it.

    • @mervstash3692
      @mervstash3692 Před rokem

      shame most of it was wrong

  • @jollyjack5856
    @jollyjack5856 Před rokem +6

    Respect! Great video, packed with info and specifics. Extremely well done. You'll be my go-to source on these things now.

  • @ejreob
    @ejreob Před rokem +441

    I'm super impressed by the whole thing spinning and going that much off prograde without disintegrating. Don't think I've ever seen a rocket do that before. Outside of KSP of course, where my rockets pretty much always do a somersault at some point before achieving orbit.

    • @MindzEnt
      @MindzEnt Před rokem +9

      Yeah it wasn't supposed to do that, that rocket should have kicked in safety measure as soon as it started spinning to prevent that thing from becoming a missile and possibly kill thousands of people, but keep being impressed.

    • @reginaldbentworth9159
      @reginaldbentworth9159 Před rokem +43

      @@MindzEnt range safety has parameters if it had violated them the vehicle would have been terminated

    • @mythrin
      @mythrin Před rokem

      @@MindzEnt The safety measure was literally the flight termination system destroying the rocket. But keep being stupid.

    • @Reazintful
      @Reazintful Před rokem +38

      @@MindzEnt actually, if the rockets trajectory is safe on guidance (they are tracking the thing, ya know) they will let it get closer to the ground/water to minimize debri field. FTS is not always instantly triggered after failure. spacex also doesnt fully control this, there is an FAA range safety officer onsite that makes the call.

    • @serena-yu
      @serena-yu Před rokem +10

      A Russian Proton rocket once did half a circle, and ... disintegrated as expected. No one was surprised because that was like throwing a skyscrapper into a laundry machine. The structure of the Starship is phenomenal.

  • @avsrule247
    @avsrule247 Před rokem +276

    SpaceX engineers were patiently waiting for this video Scott could tell them what went wrong

    • @glassesstapler
      @glassesstapler Před rokem +30

      naw, I think they were too busy patting themselves on the back for saving money on the launch mount... oops

    • @anssiluomaranta34
      @anssiluomaranta34 Před rokem +3

      Nah. Just revert and add more boosters!

    • @Highspeedfutzi
      @Highspeedfutzi Před rokem +1

      Come on guys don’t be toxic…

    • @grantwells4491
      @grantwells4491 Před rokem +5

      I think everyone was waiting for Scott’s video 😆

    • @kentstallard6512
      @kentstallard6512 Před rokem

      ​@@HighspeedfutziLike Musk?

  • @craigdeandean4036
    @craigdeandean4036 Před rokem +3

    Great explanation of what went wrong Scott thank you I really enjoy your channel!

  • @jackallread
    @jackallread Před rokem +2

    Thanks Scott, always enjoy your commentary and insight!!

  • @Togidubnus
    @Togidubnus Před rokem +417

    To me, the Manley Version is always the definitive version, and the wait was worth it. Deep insight as always. Thank you! I've got to say, though, that their Stage Zero was always going to be smithereens. I mean, what were they thinking? SLS very nearly wrote off its launch pad, so there was a precedent.

    • @rtlibby
      @rtlibby Před rokem +40

      @@DelPlays No way they intended to flip before staging.

    • @therocinante3443
      @therocinante3443 Před rokem +1

      100%

    • @astrowuff
      @astrowuff Před rokem +2

      I'm amazed about how much in-depth information he got so quickly while also being at some kind of convention...

    • @digi3218
      @digi3218 Před rokem +6

      ​​@@DelPlays Like Scott said the engines should cut off before stage separation so I don't think it was even initiated. I think some of the hydraulics failed for the thrust vector controls and along with some engines out (also just a thought there was less air to help stabilize the rocket .. if that even makes sense) it started whipping around and ultimately started bending before it was terminated.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB Před rokem

      Lies again? UDK Module Google Drive

  • @joyl7842
    @joyl7842 Před rokem +257

    The fact that it didn't come apart spinning like that at those angles and speeds had me very surprised. That's one heck of a strong structure.

    • @amcname494
      @amcname494 Před rokem +16

      The forces must have been tremendous.

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander Před rokem +8

      Almost too heavy. :d So a lot room for optimization or a lot of room for many reuses. Depends how u look at it i Guess.

    • @himenaaa3565
      @himenaaa3565 Před rokem +4

      yeah it totally strong structure but the structure has maximum limit stress, probably it already reaching maximum stress level making the materials disintegrate faster, since it combined the atmospheric force created heat and the burning fuel adding more heat

    • @stevensmith7949
      @stevensmith7949 Před rokem

      Could they shave off some weight to increase the payload?

    • @joyl7842
      @joyl7842 Před rokem +2

      @@stevensmith7949 It was already flying without a payload.

  • @Pete_Finch
    @Pete_Finch Před rokem +2

    It was wild to see that thing even lift off of the ground - I expected much worse and was pleasantly surprised. One of the cooler things I've seen in my lifetime of watching these launches regardless of eventual disintegration

  • @Haymaker75
    @Haymaker75 Před rokem +2

    Awesome analysis Scott - thank you as always!

  • @hjalfi
    @hjalfi Před rokem +333

    I was waiting for this! It's not official until Scott Manley does an analysis! Also, I really hope SpaceX release all the on-board footage. I want to see all the details.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft Před rokem

      It's funny how they were happily releasing everything until the disaster happened, isn't it? I thought the SpaceX cultists were saying that this was a "Success" and "WINNING" though....so why don't they release all the videos?

    • @tonywood3660
      @tonywood3660 Před rokem +1

      It went bang! What else do you need to know? 😊

    • @Mafuskas
      @Mafuskas Před rokem +1

      I also hope we get to see footage from the WB-57 as well!

    • @NavinBetamax
      @NavinBetamax Před rokem

      @@tonywood3660 ...would like to know if it was Big, Small or Medium ...Bang - that is !!! Lol !

    • @cybhunter007
      @cybhunter007 Před rokem +1

      @@tonywood3660
      With an engineering mind, you don't take things face value; you look at a problem, your mind start hypothesizing the process.

  • @boxborolad
    @boxborolad Před rokem +3

    This is a great post & explanation, as usual from you. Thanks & I'm trying to share it with my fellow space nerds. All the best and keep up the excellent content!

  • @rodsprague369
    @rodsprague369 Před rokem +5

    I think the internal view and the view looking down the rocket were supposed to capture the staging event. Also, at times during the tumble, I saw engine rich exhaust green a good distance from the vehicle.

  • @eicdesigner
    @eicdesigner Před rokem +174

    I know next to nothing about rockets, but always come here for a thorough explanation that presents technical data in a relatable manner. Thank you again, Scott, for making a complicated subject easy for anyone to understand.

    • @craignapoli
      @craignapoli Před rokem +3

      Ditto.

    • @reasonerenlightened2456
      @reasonerenlightened2456 Před rokem +1

      I am becoming more pessimistic about the entire project , especially, after seeing the crater under the star ship platform. What else did Elon musk not foresee?

    • @asantebacala3365
      @asantebacala3365 Před rokem

      This launch system will never reach orbit. Going back to the Saturn V rocket, Von Braun wanted a larger rocket. NASA nixed that idea, because the stresses on such a large rocket during flight was not possible. I guess NASA was right. Looking forward to the next explosion, which may never happen, since the FAA has grounded Starship for the foreseeable future.

  • @Ding_Bat
    @Ding_Bat Před rokem +539

    The fact that the structure held up that long while spinning out of control at 2,000kph is amazing!

    • @aserta
      @aserta Před rokem +50

      The launch pad didn't tho. It's junk because the supreme leader opted out of a diverter. It's been ablated to shit and back and you can see the rebar inside what was, once, concrete. That's a fail of epic proportions. This isn't about rocket successes, it's about how much corner cutting they've done. I wouldn't trust my life on any amount of wins knowing that the dildo of consequences can arrive at any moment. Unlubbed.

    • @MartinDlabaja
      @MartinDlabaja Před rokem +79

      ​@@aserta your argument is not based on facts:
      1. no flame diverters has a reson - landing on mars or moon - there will be no diverters also, its may be good to test the consequences of that
      2. SpaceX uses a different approach of quick prototyping, where failure is expected, it is a different approach to building stuff instead of slow steady progress
      I am not a Musk fanboy, but it is still to reason using some facts before hating him because he is "emperor"
      I would probably do the same and try my best but stll be a hated and polarizing figure, as well as you ... or anyone else

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell Před rokem +45

      @@MartinDlabaja Come on. Don't spoil good baseless whining with facts.

    • @larryboy2222
      @larryboy2222 Před rokem +50

      @@MartinDlabaja the first stage will never be used on Mars. That’s not a good excuse for not having a flame diverter

    • @dustman96
      @dustman96 Před rokem +19

      @@aserta Perhaps you should ponder the difference between the way nasa does things and the iterative process that spacex uses. Analyzing failures gives them an enormous amount of data. You can launch and destroy at least 10 starships for the price of one SLS launch. If this thing eventually works it will save hundreds of billions and change space travel in a monumental way. Not to mention, in this scenario the public doesn't have to pay for the failures.

  • @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin
    @Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin Před rokem +5

    @Scott Manley - Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos. This 62 year old guy learns a lot from both you and Mars Guy. I don't know if my grandkids will be raising hell on Mars but thanks to you & MG I'm able to envision what the future could be like.

  • @KougaJ7
    @KougaJ7 Před rokem +2

    4:58 you can quite clearly see that 6 engines are out (2x 2 in the outer ring and 2x 1 in the outer ring and middle), not 5 as per the HUD.

  • @tperk
    @tperk Před rokem +209

    Best technical explanation yet, Scott you do not disappoint.

    • @Petrvsco
      @Petrvsco Před rokem +3

      Very good, but I disagree with the max q on re-entry. Termination happened way above ascent max q (not very dense atmosphere) and the rocket is not accelerating at n descent as it was on ascent.
      Agree 100% that the root of the problem happened on launching. Even for a test flight having so many engines failing is good evidence.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Petrvsco good 4 you

    • @karenrobertsdottir4101
      @karenrobertsdottir4101 Před rokem +1

      @@Petrvsco When you keep in mind how huge that rocket is, the scale of those chunks of concrete flying up around the rocket is truly terrifying.
      Many years back, I predicted that ultimately, Stage Zero is just going to be a tower (on Earth, a floating spar), with no semblance of a pad. I think we keep showing more and more that this is where we're headed. Heck, maybe some day even the connection with the thrust puck will be ditched, relying solely on grid fin connections at multiple heights up the rocket body (I know the thrust puck is a convenient place to bear loads, as it already has to be able to bear the weight of of the rocket (and then some), but a hanging rocket is "structures in tension", not compression, so I don't expect much of a mass penalty from going that route, and it'd mean you don't have to have *anything* blasted by those engines)

    • @virnin7759
      @virnin7759 Před rokem +1

      @@karenrobertsdottir4101 If the rocket has to transition from a structure in tension to a structure in compression, I think it would greatly enhance the pogo problem, forcing significant changes to the design.

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 Před rokem +1

      never fails...my go to guy...i wish i was half as smart as scot lol

  • @coreyclarke6929
    @coreyclarke6929 Před rokem +51

    at T+1:28, you can see a massive fire in the engine skirt at the center, i think that the hydraulics are leaking everywhere at this point and spraying out into the exhaust plume causing the plume to burn orange, also this would explain the loss of control at the end as the hydraulics have completely run out of oil.

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Před rokem +2

      I’ve been wondering what was going on there. Hydraulic problems would make a lot of sense.

    • @bumponalog7164
      @bumponalog7164 Před rokem +1

      Hopefully the engine failures were due to external factors because if the engines were eating themselves that might take a long time to fix.

    • @gedw99
      @gedw99 Před rokem +7

      Either the pad debris puctutrs hydraulic lines
      And / or
      The self destructing engines did it .
      My money is on the pad debris damaging the hydraulic lines , because I would have presumed that they designed for engine failures to not cause adjacent hydraulic line failures .

    • @coreyclarke6929
      @coreyclarke6929 Před rokem +3

      @@gedw99 Ageed, but Scott Manley and Marcus house both noted a flash at the HPU, I am thinking when the engine under HPU blew up, the explosion went out the engine shroud side and up the HPU assembly, things cascaded from there...

    • @eh1600
      @eh1600 Před rokem +3

      Should have a pit under the launchpad like the soyuz

  • @martyanderson3390
    @martyanderson3390 Před rokem +4

    You’re the best Scott, keep up the excellent work!

  • @dustinplatt6882
    @dustinplatt6882 Před rokem +3

    This rocket launch is exactly what happens to me when I'm in bed with my gf.
    It's chaotic thrust at the beginning, 30 seconds of supersonic thrust, and an explosion at the end, then random clapping in the background.

  • @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-

    This launch took me right back to my KSP days, when I launched rockets without doing any math.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm Před rokem +11

      When you see the bunch of guys with caps in control room you may understand it...

    • @imageingredients8110
      @imageingredients8110 Před rokem +7

      Just like Space X! Lol

    • @jasonupton2765
      @jasonupton2765 Před rokem +2

      How the thing stayed in one piece with how much weight was in stage 2 vs the emptying stage one... Only Jebediah would be able to save it.

  • @thomasreese2816
    @thomasreese2816 Před rokem +18

    Looks like Tom Scott made a surprise appearance, watching the launch with you 😮

    • @itsprochy
      @itsprochy Před rokem +1

      Also spotted Tom immediately, now I *have* to know what that is about!!!

    • @IstasPumaNevada
      @IstasPumaNevada Před rokem +4

      Also noticed them immediately, despite the lack of red shirt. :D

    • @u1zha
      @u1zha Před rokem +1

      Good catch.

    • @rednammoc
      @rednammoc Před rokem +2

      Also looks like Integza & AlphaPhoenix there too

    • @NFS305
      @NFS305 Před rokem

      Wearing a mask. Ugh.

  • @Shademarc
    @Shademarc Před rokem

    Fantastic test, waiting for the next launch with great hopes!

  • @brandsplanet4381
    @brandsplanet4381 Před rokem +5

    It's so satisfying to watch SpaceX Rockets explode.

    • @jonathan_123
      @jonathan_123 Před rokem

      Thats not Happening often so...

    • @java4653
      @java4653 Před rokem +3

      ​@@jonathan_123 LOL. But this irresponsible waste of taxpayer money did, Musk Cultist.

    • @jonathan_123
      @jonathan_123 Před rokem

      @@java4653 Space x is a private company.

    • @canwelook
      @canwelook Před rokem

      @Jonathan
      Try researching their funding buddy.

  • @amotriuc
    @amotriuc Před rokem +250

    Thank you Scott, You are one of the few on CZcams who reports facts with good explanation and no hype. I do respect your integrity.

    • @fietae
      @fietae Před rokem +2

      Idk man must be you falling for clickbait too often. I havent gotten a single hype video on this

  • @PanzerschrekCN
    @PanzerschrekCN Před rokem +6

    Tom Scott and Scott Manley? Best crossover ever!

  • @flintprayerchain
    @flintprayerchain Před rokem +3

    Scott, we need more detail and conjecture from you regarding the events seen during the launch: T+00:28 parts shedding from vehicle, T+00.32 bright flash in exhaust, T+01:11 intermittent bright flashes, T+01:56 big flare in exhaust plume, T+0.02:14 cloud/explosion inside the interstage skirt. Love your analysis so far!

  • @aaronhanes1828
    @aaronhanes1828 Před rokem

    Great video! Good comprehensive review of the aftermath of the launch. 🙂👍

  • @enkidu78
    @enkidu78 Před rokem +69

    Been waiting for this update since the launch, you are the most technical space CZcamsrs. Love the content 👍🏻

    • @stevebeal73
      @stevebeal73 Před rokem +2

      me too!

    • @Galerak1
      @Galerak1 Před rokem +3

      Pretty much the same here. I saw loads of media outlet 'sensationalism' titles and lots of YT creator clickbait titles but I held out knowing Scott would give us his no-nonsense assessment as soon as he could.

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Před rokem +1

      Yup, this is the one I've been waiting for. Really great and I hope Scott does an even deeper analysis in the next few days as more info becomes available.

    • @yumazster
      @yumazster Před rokem +2

      Same here. Main media coverage was very crimgeworthy. I believe Chris Hadfield had to explain facts of life to one of the presenters because it is rarely prearranged for the TV talking head to hear that they were entirely wrong on air 😊

  • @Alex-bn9xx
    @Alex-bn9xx Před rokem +283

    When it did those flips with the second stage attached and did not break up it was truly an amazing sign of engineering

    • @atakama2380
      @atakama2380 Před rokem +5

      it was not to Fast for that altitude

    • @LongTran-em6hc
      @LongTran-em6hc Před rokem +19

      Must have autostrut turned on

    • @stardolphin2
      @stardolphin2 Před rokem +2

      Indeed. I couldn't see it live, but when watching video later, I'm sure I *would* have wondered at one or two points in that gyration if they might still stabilize it and more-or-less continue...
      But at least it got past Max-Q and *almost* to staging, so there's plenty of reason for hope in that...

    • @samgriess438
      @samgriess438 Před rokem +7

      lol you realize that wasn't by design

    • @sys3248
      @sys3248 Před rokem +2

      They failed to release 2nd stage that actually can land by itself.

  • @wingman8586
    @wingman8586 Před rokem

    Great recap!

  • @romeoarchila7492
    @romeoarchila7492 Před rokem

    Scott thanks for explaining this in detail, very helpful video.

  • @gabrielmaitre4034
    @gabrielmaitre4034 Před rokem +28

    I have been waiting for Scott’s take on this!

  • @LegacyUser
    @LegacyUser Před rokem +50

    It was an absolutely Kerbal launch. One of the coolest things I have seen. Great analysis as always.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před rokem +10

      Well, now we know why the game doesn't let you launch your giant rocket using the cheap launch pad. Ah Elon found the hard way 🙂

    • @falsevacuum4667
      @falsevacuum4667 Před rokem +4

      @@freeculture I don't think they "found out the hard way". As the video mentioned, they were well aware of the launch pad requirements. They were just trying their best to keep those at a minimum because they won't have a launch pad on Mars.

    • @forbidden-cyrillic-handle
      @forbidden-cyrillic-handle Před rokem +3

      It was a KSP2 ad.

  • @grantjohnston6152
    @grantjohnston6152 Před rokem +2

    I am so happy this blew up! I hope the next one does as well! And on and on... But with absolutely NO loss of life.

  • @traisjames2
    @traisjames2 Před rokem +1

    "It did dig deeper than most other rockets". I laughed enough to spook my cat.

  • @vanstry
    @vanstry Před rokem +339

    The biggest problem with stage 0 is, as you said: Mars. There won't be a stage 0 there, unless they bring it with them. Then again, there won't be that massive booster on Mars either.
    So it will be interesting to see how they deal with this.

    • @nick_0
      @nick_0 Před rokem +65

      Yeah super heavy isn't what's going to be taking off from Mars, and the gravity there is 1/3 of Earth's so the thrust required to reach orbit will be significantly lower thus the plume cloud will be minimal when launching. Although I will note that the design specifications posed to NASA for a Lunar landing has the thrusters located at the top of the vessel meaning that they acknowledge the need to lessen the debris and crater size caused by landing and takeoff.

    • @simonoconnor7759
      @simonoconnor7759 Před rokem +49

      Very little relevance, as only Starship, not super heavy, will ever need to take off from the surface. Without either the gravity or atmospheric pressure there is less force reflecting back at the rocket. Sound vibration will be 1/100 or less compared to Earth. Starship has less engines, and could potentially use a lower throttle setting for initial lift off from Mars. To overcome it's own mass, it will only need 1/3rd the lift that it would on Earth.
      IMO, there was no good reason to try and launch Super Heavy without a proper flame trench and deluge system, and the subsequent damage and loss of vehicle were entirely predictable.

    • @greenlamp9219
      @greenlamp9219 Před rokem

      the way they will deal with it is elon will continue to postpone the deadline for ever getting to mars for another two more weeks and convince more investors to pour more money into spacex funding without anyone even asking the question why are we even going to mars in the first place?

    • @Tom-xd4ct
      @Tom-xd4ct Před rokem +55

      You think they are going to Mars?
      Lol

    • @keeganhenderson24
      @keeganhenderson24 Před rokem +3

      Why not place iron or even titanium plates under the rocket instead of concrete? Or just a thick layer of iron in addition to the concrete?

  • @MarkCarline
    @MarkCarline Před rokem +122

    Looking forward to Scott's breakdown of what happened

    • @WarrenGarabrandt
      @WarrenGarabrandt Před rokem +31

      I bet they simply forgot to check their staging. Happens to me all the time in KSP.

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Před rokem +1

      @@WarrenGarabrandt There was a lot more to it than that - firstly not enough speed, wrong altitude, also Starship relies on a 'flip and separate' to separate the ship from the booster (it's far simpler than Falcon 9's arrangement).

    • @Dusto9
      @Dusto9 Před rokem +7

      ​@@SlartiMarvinbartfast Don't be silly, all of those things are just the result of forgetting to check the staging. Any experienced kerbonaut can confirm that.

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +6

      Hpu damaged, no gimbal, flips.

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Před rokem +4

      @@WarrenGarabrandt looks more like they forgot to turn on SAS.

  • @namraj1
    @namraj1 Před rokem

    Thanks for the in-depth look at the launch.

  • @theboatgoat
    @theboatgoat Před rokem

    Thanks Scott, Great Analysis, i was waitong for this video!

  • @iandennis1
    @iandennis1 Před rokem +231

    Great review! Nice to see someone looking at this in a methodical and balanced manor.

    • @DrNickAG
      @DrNickAG Před rokem +13

      Agreed! Answered a lot of the questions I was asking, but no other reporting provided. Thank you for your excellent journalism on this.

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian Před rokem +17

      Yep. Some people put it down as a complete failure, and others as an "unqualified success" because it cleared the minimal mission objective which was to clear the launchpad. Really, it's a mixed bag, and a first look at the likely failure modes (at least two: stage 0 and attitude control) was insightful.

    • @SlartiMarvinbartfast
      @SlartiMarvinbartfast Před rokem +7

      The first so far, other analyses pale in comparison to Scott's.

    • @romanroad483
      @romanroad483 Před rokem +11

      @@QuantumHistorian A partial success. No one seems to say this.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Před rokem +4

      his house is perfectly straight.

  • @dziczyzna24
    @dziczyzna24 Před rokem +140

    I don't know what SpaceX expected when it comes to the launch pad. This candle is too powerfull.

    • @garreth629
      @garreth629 Před rokem +4

      Uh oh, that's not a candle it's dynamite. 😂

    • @Kausan1
      @Kausan1 Před rokem +7

      @BlackH - yep, if they can't dig down to divert it, the venue is wrong

    • @ronboe6325
      @ronboe6325 Před rokem +9

      And they are repeating the mistake with the Florida towers.

    • @georgespalding7640
      @georgespalding7640 Před rokem +4

      The Launchpad was a major mistake. To build it right they're going to have to divert the water table something like when they built the Golden Gate Bridge towers in San Francisco. It's going to take months to build it. This could be a big setback for the future launches.

    • @Jeppelelle
      @Jeppelelle Před rokem +7

      Cant they use the water table to their advantage? Sure, need to be dry when they dig the diverter hole, but after that, what if they allowed water to flood in? The water in the hole & maybe culverts would "divert" alot of energy being converted into steam, like a natural water thingamajig instead of the traditional water suppression system

  • @amanichristopher719
    @amanichristopher719 Před rokem +96

    Thank you so much Scott. As always you have given out the most detailed explanation than every body out there. Very reliable and makes all sense.

    • @snufkin84
      @snufkin84 Před rokem +3

      Far better than the Elon fanboys that’s for sure

    • @lorsod3380
      @lorsod3380 Před rokem

      @@snufkin84 really saying that the spacex workers are feeling bad they are feeling good about it
      scott thinks he knows more than elon

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Před rokem +1

      Another great Manley presentation. :)

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft Před rokem

      @@lorsod3380 The same SpaceX cultists here who are screaming "Success!!!" even though this was a catastrophic failure would be shaming and trashing NASA if they had a Saturn 1, Saturn 5, or SLS launch fail badly. There has never been a Saturn or SLS failure while Starship has 1 launch and 1 failure.
      The launch pad has been completely destroyed by Starship and the debris that it caused due to poor construction destroyed at least 8 of the 33 engines. So much "winning"!!!!
      SpaceX cultists could be seeing a complete disaster happening at 1 second with a 500 yard crater being created and catastrophic damage everywhere and they would still be screaming "That was awesome!!! SUCCESS!!!!!"

  • @robertcase4995
    @robertcase4995 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for a great analysis.

  • @nowellg
    @nowellg Před rokem

    Great video again Scott

  • @biplaneflights
    @biplaneflights Před rokem +78

    Excellent summary - thank you. Yes, no point in launching any more Starships from Starbase until they sort out the launch pad. Given previous damage on tests, damage to the pad on a fully-stacked flight was inevitable. The booster was probably fatally wounded by flying concrcete before it had even cleared the tower - particularly given its lateral movement.

    • @vicroc4
      @vicroc4 Před rokem

      This could've been prevented if they'd built a flame diverter or a water deluge system. Like the ones they use with their other, successful, rocket the Falcon 9. Whoever decided to ignore those mission-critical pieces of hardware during the design and planning stages has only proven they're a moron.

    • @HunterAllyn
      @HunterAllyn Před rokem +12

      Definitely what I'm thinking. After seeing close pics of the launchpad, it's positively anemic, almost embarrassing how little it's built up. Sure it makes sense to want to test how it will operate on other planets, but for the home base? They gotta beef that shit up, considerably.
      Plus, no flame diverter almost made it so the crowd couldn't see the rocket rising! The tip barely outpaced the rising smoke! Probably the biggest flaw in the Starship system atm

    • @Fe4rN4ught
      @Fe4rN4ught Před rokem +5

      Had the same thought watching those several ton chunks flying hundreds.of feet into the air

    • @Ampelmannchen42
      @Ampelmannchen42 Před rokem +4

      I don't really see a point in using the "other planet" take-off ability when there wouldn't be a concrete launch pad there anyway. Why not just use a water dampening system like almost every other launch from Earth and use this just as a needed learning experience?

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 Před rokem +8

      ​@@Ampelmannchen42 Also, they don't plan on launching the booster from other planets.

  • @jameskrych7767
    @jameskrych7767 Před rokem +152

    Plenty of videos about this, but you didn't fail to perform up to par. Great job on the analysis, Scott!

    • @635574
      @635574 Před rokem +6

      And he doesnt take 50m

    • @vladpalets
      @vladpalets Před rokem +2

      guys gather around, James Krych said this video is up to par!! holy shit, everyone thank him for his approval

    • @MessiForever-q9l
      @MessiForever-q9l Před rokem

      Which other analysis videos do you recommend? There are too many

    • @jameskrych7767
      @jameskrych7767 Před rokem

      @@MessiForever-q9l Too many is right. There is one that takes 50m and goes frame by frame.

  • @Vitnir3
    @Vitnir3 Před rokem

    This is why I wait for Scotts video, better than any newspaper.

  • @terrykilo951
    @terrykilo951 Před rokem

    The only discussion that I bother with. Worth the wait. Well done.

  • @tiagdvideo
    @tiagdvideo Před rokem +48

    The best post launch summary out there - as always. Thanks Scott.

    • @mikec1096
      @mikec1096 Před rokem +1

      no kidding, I was really waiting for this.

  • @doneB830
    @doneB830 Před rokem +176

    I am very impressed with the structural strength of the rocket. This is huge because it’s easy to lower strength but probably impossible the other way. A huge success to their structural engineers.

    • @waynesimpson2074
      @waynesimpson2074 Před rokem +28

      Yes, its a pity the same team responsible for the structural integrity of the rocket weren't involved with the design and engineering of the launch platform

    • @doneB830
      @doneB830 Před rokem +4

      @@waynesimpson2074 yes so true, I can’t believe that they use concrete.

    • @OpiatesAndTits
      @OpiatesAndTits Před rokem

      Rofl your impressed? If NASA treated space travel like spaceX does as if it’s software their just loading up to see if the bug was fixed it would be a national scandal.
      The fact Musk is allowed to be so reckless with multi megatons of explosive fuel around protected nature reserves containing endangered species including turtles WHO ARE HATCHING SOON is black stain on our regulators. Where the fuck are the adults?
      Do you have any idea how much damage a fully fueled star ship could do? The explosion would be measured in Hiroshima’s. Yes it’s that bad and that’s not hyperbole- the explosive potential if the thing went off on the pad and fully detonated the fuel would be comparable to setting off a bloody nuke.
      It’s insane this man child is allowed to play with rockets like a 12 year old strapping bottle rockets to his plastic army men to “see what happens”.
      This is not how rocket science is done. I can’t wait to see the environmental implications of this latest fiasco. When was the last launch at Boca Chica that didn’t result in a fire and or explosion?
      We shouldn’t be encouraging this behavior with “better luck” next times. Also if the structural engineers are the ones who designed the fuel tanks then they are actually very bad at their jobs.
      I guess we won’t see change until someone is actually killed.

    • @kingblondie7075
      @kingblondie7075 Před rokem +3

      I think there's a setting for that, they probably had damage turned off.

    • @awuma
      @awuma Před rokem +7

      @@doneB830 Elon said they were building a big steel pad to cover the surface, but it wasn't ready in time, and they thought the concrete could survive one launch.

  • @Ravi_Raj_Gupta
    @Ravi_Raj_Gupta Před rokem

    Quite an insightful video!

  • @carlstenger5893
    @carlstenger5893 Před rokem

    Great video. Excellent analysis. Thanks!

  • @fsclips
    @fsclips Před rokem +59

    It seems the real genius of starship is that it digs it's own flame trench on take off 😊. Very cool launch and I loved every minute of it.

    • @Real28
      @Real28 Před rokem +3

      I said, if they were all just wanting it to "clear the pad", would it count if the vehicle just "moved" the pad somewhere else? 🤣🤣

  • @samuelfeder9764
    @samuelfeder9764 Před rokem +3

    4:27 "engine rich exhaust" still remains a pretty hilarious phrase! 🤣

  • @mrs.6813
    @mrs.6813 Před rokem

    Nice and clear explanation. Thanks!

  • @Dangerooman
    @Dangerooman Před rokem +2

    words cannot describe how excited i am to see a skyscraper belly flop from the heavens to spin upright and get caught by another skyscraper.

  • @sebphillips10
    @sebphillips10 Před rokem +44

    Thank you Scott, you gave me answers to the many quetions I had over this launch. Onwards and (hopefully) upwards to the next launch.

  • @grexursorum6006
    @grexursorum6006 Před rokem +237

    KSP actually taught me something. As soon as i saw the sideways movement as it tryed to correct upwards back on tack, I knew it was doomed. All the engine rich exaust was obvious, but I hoped, maybe its enougth without a payload. But the slinding ruined all hopes and from this shot on I only waited for the termination. And i got serious N1 backflashes, like instant, I wish them alle the best. It ws an amazing launch

    • @mikegmdw1
      @mikegmdw1 Před rokem +9

      the take off was late and I knew then that something was wrong - at least it didn't explode at the launch site

    • @bayardkyyako7427
      @bayardkyyako7427 Před rokem

      Yeah for rocket scientists they sure can't do what they were hired to do huh? Almost like spacex is a scam, but naah that's too simple of an explanation to be true.

    • @zanderwohl
      @zanderwohl Před rokem

      @@TJ-W The above commenter isn't talking about tumbling at all

    • @grexursorum6006
      @grexursorum6006 Před rokem +5

      @@TJ-W this comment wasn't about the tumbling at all. The tumbling was the inevitable consequence of the desperate course correction manovers before. You would know if you had watched more closely in KSP 🤣 I'm a geek at best btw not a nerd 🤓

    • @Smannellites
      @Smannellites Před rokem +1

      How do you know that the sideways movement was not intentional? It would make good sense to get the rocket to move away from the launch tower to minimise the risk of contact and tower/rocket damage.

  • @paolobroccolino1806
    @paolobroccolino1806 Před rokem

    Great video, one of the best about this topic

  • @StefanDembowski
    @StefanDembowski Před rokem

    Dude, that was a great reaction by you!😁
    Great analysis, thank you for sharing.

  • @MDelorean
    @MDelorean Před rokem +22

    The amount of analysis you do is amazing, love all the map overlays and added graphics. Makes it very ELI5! Thanks!

  • @Zappygunshot
    @Zappygunshot Před rokem +34

    I remember seeing the debris spewing upwards during launch, as well as the random engine flares; but two more things of note are the change in colour of the exhaust flames, and the glassed remnants beneath the launch pad.
    As the rocket is spinning out of control and falling back toward the surface, you can see some of the exhaust turning greenish, which is consistent with burning metals like copper. It's likely that by this point, the rocket has gutted itself so deeply that the flames are burning up the internals of the craft.
    Furthermore, the closeup of the damage to the launch pad shows that the heat of the exhaust has at least partially melted ground particulates enough that they stuck together and formed globs of slag, a particularly big one of which cooled down mid-gloop right in the middle of the picture; which shows that its brief lifespan included at least a passing interest in photography and modelling which is nice.

    • @ke6gwf
      @ke6gwf Před rokem

      Thumbs up for the humor at the end lol, but burning copper is from the engines, it's not really used in the rocket itself.

    • @Laerei
      @Laerei Před rokem +2

      As Scott said, it's engine rich exhaust!

  • @mirage1500
    @mirage1500 Před rokem +3

    At least they have most of the excavation for the deluge system done now, but it definitely would have been cheaper to use an excavator. I so wanted to see if the heat tiles were going to work.

  • @MiguelMorales85
    @MiguelMorales85 Před rokem +2

    Great analysis

  • @jeffsloan
    @jeffsloan Před rokem +82

    Been waiting for your take on this Scott. I think your post launch debriefs are spot on and very informative.

  • @SarahKchannel
    @SarahKchannel Před rokem +61

    if you look at the prelaunch gimbal test, one center engine had no cryo frost on it. Which could mean that that engine did not do the chill down and therefore never ignited.

    • @journeymanic9605
      @journeymanic9605 Před rokem +1

      Do you think they save it for landing?

    • @m00str
      @m00str Před rokem +1

      Regarding the gimbal test: that was so incredible mesmerizing

    • @davidmoser3535
      @davidmoser3535 Před rokem +3

      Because its a center motor, it may not gimbel at all

    • @brianbagnall3029
      @brianbagnall3029 Před rokem +5

      That's a good observation, it is E7. They show it at T-00:02:12 on the SpaceX feed. Not sure if it is just an optical effect because many other engines look similarly black.

    • @iflyuwalk
      @iflyuwalk Před rokem +6

      Saw that, too, and thought "hm, that's not good."

  • @rincewind2828
    @rincewind2828 Před rokem +1

    really good, interesting and informative video Scott - thanks! Hope Spacex have a good stock of gaffer tape! ;)

  • @mrrichardlaw
    @mrrichardlaw Před rokem +46

    I’ve been waiting patiently for your post launch analysis. So many others rush to post their videos to get the early views, but your review never disappoints. My guess is August before we see another launch 🚀

  • @masterofwriters4176
    @masterofwriters4176 Před rokem +6

    0:38 hold on is that tom scott?

  • @two2truths
    @two2truths Před rokem +1

    Rapid Unscheduled Digging... Just the title made me laugh Scott. Brilliant

  • @hendrikeilers5376
    @hendrikeilers5376 Před rokem

    I cant belive i never thought this was so exiting

  • @danamunkelt3276
    @danamunkelt3276 Před rokem +20

    Great job as always, Scott. I was there for my first launch, and with the haze I wasn't sure what was going on.

  • @wadewilson524
    @wadewilson524 Před rokem +11

    I know we’re supposed to be “Three cheers! Data data data!”…. But that was a huge launch infrastructure fail. These are really smart people - it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that level of damage was going to happen without a flame diverter. That energy had to go somewhere, and it was allowed to be random instead of directed away from all things important. They trashed the launch pad and a lot of ground support equipment, not to mention that FOD damage to engines and at least one HPU is likely the cause of the launch failure. I won’t be surprised if the orbital launch mount needs a near complete rebuild. At least two of the large tanks near the pad are likely damaged beyond repair as well. Elon’s estimate of two months to be ready for the next launch is absurdly optimistic, even for Elon.

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 Před rokem

      At last - a sane assessment! Anyone paying any attention would have known that this was going to destroy the launchpad. And, ditto, as the engines had never been tested with all firing at once, that some - possibly many - would fail. So, why go ahead with this 'test'? Especially with a Starship on top that was pretty much guaranteed not to fly (and we also knew that some of the heat tiles would come off!). My personal theory is that the whole development has taken so long since the (only) successful Starship flight, that Musk just couldn't wait any longer. He, and his fan-boys, wanted something - anything - to happen, they didn't care what. And if it blew up, so much the better - everyone likes a pretty explosion... No way to develop a rocket.

    • @5000mahmud
      @5000mahmud Před rokem

      Also gonna be a PITA to separate issues caused by debris vs issues endemic to the booster itself.

  • @i-love-space390
    @i-love-space390 Před rokem +6

    As usual, your video is by far the most informative. You would make a pretty good crash investigator.
    Thanks for feeding our insatiable desire for information.
    The pad damage just goes to show, you can't just dismiss the experience of pretty much every other rocket design team since the 1950's and forego an important piece of equipment like a flame diverter on the most powerful booster in history. As for Mars take-off, at least it would only be a Starship, not a SuperHeavy. But they may end up going for a take-off like Lunar Starship HLS, with smaller engines to get above the surface before the main engines light.

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg Před rokem

      That last suggestion I think is an excellent idea, esp. considering that while there isn't the amount of dust that was believed before first touchdown, there is known to be significant amounts of loose regolith.

  • @United_Wings
    @United_Wings Před rokem

    Great video, and explanation ❤

  • @HOUROFPOW3R
    @HOUROFPOW3R Před rokem +8

    'It's moving! It's moving! I did not expect that' 😭😂

  • @fattywithafirearm
    @fattywithafirearm Před rokem +32

    I was impressed with how well starship handled the stress of the spin. It also surprised me that it took that long for the flight termination to blow up the rocket

    • @SamLowryDZ-015
      @SamLowryDZ-015 Před rokem +9

      Well they were going to wait as long as possible so as to gain data, but also to claim some degree of success.

    • @limeyUK99
      @limeyUK99 Před rokem +3

      @@SamLowryDZ-015 Clearing the launchpad was the success. Anything after was a bonus.

    • @Zenedoboz
      @Zenedoboz Před rokem +7

      Maybe that was intentional. They wanted as much telemetry they could get. Who knows when can they have an unseparated starship + heavy tumbling down in max-q? That data is invaluable.

    • @SamLowryDZ-015
      @SamLowryDZ-015 Před rokem +4

      @@limeyUK99 Bollocks - and it did not clear it - it blew a massive hole in it sending tonnes of concrete flying through the air.

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi Před rokem +5

      Everyday Astronaut commented that apparently it's common to trigger termination as late as possible, in order to minimise the area on the ground that debris rains down on. OTOH, you also don't want to let the vehicle hit the ground unterminated, because that will thoroughly mix all the fuel and oxidiser and you'll end up with a much bigger bang --- a detonation rather than a conflageration. This is somehow avoided by the flight termination charges, but I'm not sure how.

  • @RMANUEL1996
    @RMANUEL1996 Před rokem

    Waw, amazing progress!!

  • @homestudiostories
    @homestudiostories Před rokem

    Awesome analysis, thank you!

  • @stefanschneider3681
    @stefanschneider3681 Před rokem +31

    Was waiting for your words on that milestone, and you didn‘t dissapoint, as always, thanks!