You should know these META Rulings for the YCS

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • CHECK THE PINNED COMMENT for the error which is being edited out to avoid confusion
    One of these rulings I got wrong at locals. Reading the card doesn't help sometimes , you need a little more. Runick not enough cards, Dimensional Barrier + Private knowledge and Eclipse vs Prosperity.
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  • @MSTTV
    @MSTTV  Před rokem +28

    IMPORTANT CORRECTION NOTE:
    I am cutting out part 3 reasoning: The (Effect only serves as a reminder of how to resolve the card once the card resolves) and it DOES NOT allow for Agido or Kelbek or optional triggers to activate if there ISN'T enough cards to activate! It will be removed once youtube edting resolves! Apologies. Thanks for the correction and reference!

    • @gurth-quake1627
      @gurth-quake1627 Před rokem

      But isn't it the same situation as Diablosis the Mindhacker? you can't activate the effect if the opponent has less cards in the deck as they do face down banished because there's not enough cards in the deck to banish. It's also the same reason why ogre says to excavate "up to 5" cards from the opponent's deck so that it can still be activated when the opponent has less than 5 cards in the deck. You can still activate flashing fire because it's a then. The first part of the effect is not dependent on the second part, and the second part can't resolve because there's not enough cards in the deck, so you can still activate and get rid of knightmare phoenix, but you don't banish from the top of the deck.

    • @gurth-quake1627
      @gurth-quake1627 Před rokem

      wait, is the banish for runick flashing fire mandatory?

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      @@gurth-quake1627 It is part of all quick runick spells
      Activate effect skip BP then choose one of these:
      Summon a monster
      Do X then do banish Y cards

  • @thedredofxi
    @thedredofxi Před rokem

    Thank you so much for all your ruling videos and your hand trap and guide analysis as to what to run to combat the meta.

  • @pazim96
    @pazim96 Před rokem +15

    11:18 The reminder only tells you how to resolve these effects, they don't allow the activation of optional effects in that case. While Necroface will always activate since it is mandatory, Agido or Kelbek (etc.) need both players to have at least 5 cards in their deck to activate their respective (part) of the effect. If the effect has been activated and a player has less than 5 cards, only then all remaining cards will be sent to the GY. This applies to their second part as well, i.e. if both either player has let's say 6 cards in their deck and Exchange of the Spirit is in your GY, you can only mill 5 but are then not allowed to apply the second part and mill another 5 because one player has less than 5 cards in their deck at this point.

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +8

      Yes I made a mistake there, 3am brain. but if you watch the video and that is there anymroe, I edited out Thanks Pazim you are a champ

    • @babrad
      @babrad Před rokem

      May I ask you a question here?
      [1] Terrors of the Overroot sets a card from the GY.
      [2] That Set is considered a Special Summon, if the set is a Monster.
      Can DDD Wave High King Ceasar activate in response to Overroot?
      Since it already activates against Toadally Awesome responding to a monster effect, I believe it activates here as well. But it doesn't do so in Master Duel, while the game actually got correct rulings on DDD Zero King Rage (preventing Imperm etc where there was also confusion).

    • @pazim96
      @pazim96 Před rokem +3

      @@babrad It can be activated. Keep in mind that simulators, even if published by Konami, are not a ruling source. Your explanation is correct as targeting a monster in the GY will then make it an effect that includes the Special Summon of a monster.

    • @babrad
      @babrad Před rokem

      @@pazim96 "Keep in mind that simulators, even if published by Konami, are not a ruling source."
      That was my second part of the argument, still got roasted for pointing out the bug (their defense was that it uses already established OCG rulings, and Rage's ruling actually came later than its import to Master Duel).
      Thanks for your confirmation.

  • @cheaterxl243
    @cheaterxl243 Před rokem +6

    I find it very helpful that some few cards have a hint on the card itself for a ruling so that you have something to show a friend if they don’t believe you.

  • @Blizz3112
    @Blizz3112 Před rokem +6

    the Pot of Prosperity example reminds me of Protector of the Sanctuary, which prevents your opponent from drawing cards while its on the field... An old combo people occasionally used in the past with them chaining Call of the Haunted to summon Protector from the grave while they flipped their Morphing Jar...

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +5

      thats a classic combo i haven't heard in a while

  • @PrismHeartOfficial
    @PrismHeartOfficial Před rokem +4

    The first one was easy because I engrained it in my brain that "face down" cards in yugioh are essentially treated as blank cards 99% of the time

  • @AM-yb7xi
    @AM-yb7xi Před rokem

    Great video, when will y’all have more ultra instinct sleeves?

  • @Evil_Librarian
    @Evil_Librarian Před rokem +3

    That runick rulling actually cost me a match at regionals XD glad to know it shouldn't have been my loss and so I can not lose to it again

  • @MSTTV
    @MSTTV  Před rokem +2

    PE minor on the animation mistake of Question #1. the materials should be banished.

  • @vMAnnark
    @vMAnnark Před rokem

    So I have a question then if your appointment is chain blocking, I know normally you can interact on spell speed 3 but can they chain block up to spell speed 5 before you can interact or can interact after any chain link after that?

  • @PrototypePlatform
    @PrototypePlatform Před rokem +1

    the funny thing is, pre-PSCT necroface specifies "or the rest of the deck, if less than 5" on the card.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      I think it should have been left like that for clarity

  • @Jaganphotos
    @Jaganphotos Před rokem +4

    Fun thing about Runick: in the OCG they actually ruled about the deck banishing awhile ago via Necroface:
    “Q: When resolving the effect of Necroface that banishes the top 5 cards of each player’s Deck, what happens if one or both players have 4 or less cards in their Deck?
    A: When resolving the effect, if a player has 4 or less cards in their Deck, all remaining cards in their Deck are banished. (When resolving any effect that applies to multiple cards on the top of the Deck, if the number of cards left in the Deck is less than the number specified by the effect, the effect is applied to the remaining cards in the Deck.)
    Similarly, when resolving the effects of the following cards that banish from the top of the Deck, the remaining cards in the Deck are banished even if there are fewer cards in the Deck than required:
    - Runick Destruction
    - Runick Dispelling
    - Runick Flashing Fire
    - Runick Freezing Curses
    - Runick Golden Droplet”

    • @joshuasnyder885
      @joshuasnyder885 Před rokem +1

      I was about to say this. Why does this differ in tcg?

    • @Jaganphotos
      @Jaganphotos Před rokem

      @@joshuasnyder885 I remember prior to the ruling, there was a question about if you could use the banish effect if they lack the correct number of cards (ie gold droplet needs you to banish 4 & draw 1 but you have 3 cards left). After the ruling in the OCG, I just took that ruling as is.

    • @joshuasnyder885
      @joshuasnyder885 Před rokem +2

      I'm pretty sure his runick ruling is incorrect. The OCG clearly states you can because the effect resolves to the best of its abilities. I saw someone compare it to card destruction when one player doesn't have enough cards in deck you can still discard and attempt to draw

    • @perryhuynh1452
      @perryhuynh1452 Před rokem

      I think that the OCG rulings state in the resolving part of the effect, meaning that if you already successfully activate the effect of Runick cards, you have to banish amap, but here Tom said that the Runick cards can only be activated if there is enough cards in the deck to be banished.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      Isnt that hard thing? You solve as much as possible
      For necroface it is mandatory banishing even if there are less
      For runick you can legally activate runick cards as CL2 or higher that will cause you to banish more cards than it is able when resolving one by one
      This part is especially useful when opponen's deck is thin enough that if you activate runick card one by one will cause you to fail deckout opponent and your quick runick card will only can summon monster or becoming bricks

  • @isaactuttle1529
    @isaactuttle1529 Před rokem

    Great video. I disagree with the runick ruling because the runick cards don't have that wonderful conjunction of "up to" if it's gonna work that way it ought to say you can banish up to X amount of cards. I've seen other cards fizzle with the same kind of language that runic contains

  • @killerman845
    @killerman845 Před rokem +2

    The arise heart still goes thru cus the card is face down and not considered a xyz it's a set monster until flipped

  • @ZackerYGO
    @ZackerYGO Před rokem +1

    maybe a silly question about scenario 1: arise-heart targetting a monster that says "unaffected by the effects of xyz monsters" and chaining book of moon to your own arise-heart... does the unaffected monster get banished (since you can't confirm that face-down arise-heart is indeed a xyz monster) or it doesn't get banished (since the effect itself carries that it comes from a xyz monster)
    if it said "unaffected by the effects of xyz monsters *on the field*", that monster would be banished, right?

  • @daviddam1311
    @daviddam1311 Před rokem

    If d barrier have already been resolved, and player A uses gozen match cl1 player B ariseheart cl2 and player B cl3 book of moon target ariseheart. Woulnt the ariseheart still banish? Because face down cards „forget“ which effect have applied to them?

  • @barongeoffrey75
    @barongeoffrey75 Před rokem

    For the furst one i got right but for the wrong reason. I thought Ariseheart would BFD the gozen match but because being face-down it wouldn't be an xyz monster.

  • @owopest4166
    @owopest4166 Před rokem

    Hey so if you were fusion summoning using a facedown and faceup ninja that counts right? Because the guy I went against pulled the rules online idk what site but kept complaining saying I can't fuse like that by him and two others even after I done it before and explained

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      You can fuse and ritual as long as the material or requirement is correct no matter what the monster position looks like

  • @terryliu9015
    @terryliu9015 Před rokem

    tombox! can you use sprind eff to detach from a facedown xyz to bounce?

    • @Alex4Nets
      @Alex4Nets Před rokem

      No because the type of card (xyz) is unknown

  • @musicjonna
    @musicjonna Před rokem

    for the book eclipse vs. prosperity ruling, does the monster still get flipped face up during the end phase?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      yes it gets flipped

  • @Jerry4281
    @Jerry4281 Před rokem

    What a lot people forget about D barrier does not negate anywhere else, but on feild if booked or left, you can still resolve properly. I had this situation come up once, and told the dude yeah it resolves he didn't believe me.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      It is just like putting skill drain blanket on certain monsters and shield people from summoning certain type

  • @killerdude666
    @killerdude666 Před rokem +1

    Knew all these ruling I don't like being old comes with wisdom

  • @sharang26
    @sharang26 Před rokem +2

    Bold of you to assume that I read cards in the first place

  • @TheBigDeckClub
    @TheBigDeckClub Před rokem +1

    The only yugituber where his camera is in proper focus on his face

  • @Isaac_Clarke_96
    @Isaac_Clarke_96 Před rokem

    Hi, Tom, got a kind of confusing question:
    Can Branded Retribution negate the activation of either Kashtira Birth or Kashtira-La Prepare?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +2

      Branded Retribution cannot Negate Kashtira Birth.
      Branded Retribution can negate Kashtira Preparation IF it is activating the card and effect on activation (the same timing as it is being flipped face up)
      Branded Retribution cannot negate Kashtira Preparation if it was already face up.

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +3

      Branded Retirbution negates the activation of Spell/Trap CARD

  • @zeinyoussef5679
    @zeinyoussef5679 Před rokem

    Ruling question: does booking a monster removing certain lingering effects like if the monster was negated by imperm? So if your baronne gets negates by imperm then on a new chain you try to baronne negate then chain book of moon to your baronne would baronnes negate go through on resolution because it got booked?

    • @dextmo6890
      @dextmo6890 Před rokem

      Book of moon would stop a monster's effects from being negated by imperm as mentioned.
      Cards that are flipped face-down 'forget' any lingering effects that were previously applied to it that turn.

    • @zeinyoussef5679
      @zeinyoussef5679 Před rokem

      @@dextmo6890 thank you, appreciate the response!

  • @Saens406
    @Saens406 Před rokem

    for the ruling 2: if book of eclipse stated: flip face down then draw cards (immediatly), could you still use it after the pot?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      if that was the case and the draw effect was mandatory then no.

  • @vincentnghiem9057
    @vincentnghiem9057 Před rokem

    So another thing about the eclipse vs prosperity ruling, do you still flip up the monsters during the end phase but get no draw?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      yes you still flip

  • @saito853
    @saito853 Před rokem +2

    1:10 is illegal because Player A sent the Xyz materials to the GY instead of banishing, a judge should be called and player A should get a PE Minor.

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +2

      My animation would get a PE minor. yes

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      bonus points

  • @ayoobi1691
    @ayoobi1691 Před rokem

    Would it be accurate to say that the 'as possible' part of book of eclipse is what makes it work under prosperity? I was struggling with it for a while because eclipse does not say 'then your opponent CAN draw as many cards as possible.' In the example of dark bribe vs. prosperity, you're opponent must draw 1 card no matter what according to the card text.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      To me what makes it work is that it doesn't immediately draw in activation which clashes with Prosperity

    • @ayoobi1691
      @ayoobi1691 Před rokem

      @@jofx4051 well Bribe has the opponent draw for effect.

  • @treble0110
    @treble0110 Před rokem

    so asking this cause of how chains work for the runick question: if player B didn’t separate the 2 activations apart in separate chains, wouldn’t flashing fire upon resolution resolve with no effect as it’s target is no longer on field for it to apply the negate, and since it wasn’t able to apply the negate it cannot banish cards from deck as A needs to happen for B to happen?

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      Uhh isnt the chain resolving backwards bro? 😅
      If you do:
      CL1 Freezing
      CL2 Flashing
      It will different output that Freezing would not have any target since the target gone first with Flashing (higher CL resolves first)
      Say if they don't separate chain
      What they should normally do is using Freezing then Flashing to maximize banishing but if you do Freezing when the deck is 4 you can't activate Flashing after Freezing resolved since the deck is 1 left
      Yes for the part of A to B is true tho

  • @crysis9729
    @crysis9729 Před rokem +1

    In Q1 the Materials of Arise-heart would be banished btw

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      yes, sorry animation was a little rusty yes it should be banished of course.

  • @luisherrera8049
    @luisherrera8049 Před rokem

    So a question for question 2. So since the book can be activated under the pot because drawing isn’t always garunteed. Then why can ash be used to negate the effect?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      For that same reason, it includes and effect to draw.

  • @Booboo9721
    @Booboo9721 Před rokem

    First off, thank you for these awesome ruling videos! IMO, I would have to disagree with the first ruling. I believe it should work similar to how hero's can still use masked change/polymerization on their facedown hero's. I think once a monster has become public knowledge it shouldn't be considered " technically not on the field" because both players were part of the interaction flipping "x"monster facedown. As a result D-Barrier should resolve successfully because "x" monster (with public knowledge) is still trying to resolve an effect that should be negated. D-Barrier states "on the field" to resolve which I believe technically it still is.
    However, like I said that's my opinion. I disagree with the ruling given but I respect it. Thanks!

    • @HakuaZR
      @HakuaZR Před rokem +1

      Judge here, I wanted to explain your comparisons because both of these cards actually work a bit differently.
      You cannot target a facedown card with Mask Change because you need to target a "HERO" monster; facedown cards do not have names/types/stats, etc.
      The reason why there is a clause that states "it's original Attribute, if facedown" is to indicate that it can still be resolved if the monster is facedown.
      To explain with an example: you activate Mask Change targeting your faceup HERO monster, the opponent chains Book of Moon as CL2, targeting your same HERO monster. The chain resolves backwards, so Book of Moon flips the HERO facedown, then Mask Change still properly resolves here, even though the monster is facedown. Essentially, Mask Change still needs a faceup to activate properly, but not to resolve.
      Secondly, Polymerization can use facedowns because Fusions Summons in general do not require faceup monsters. It's actually a special case for Fusion Summoning. That's why you can still use Poly of facedowns.
      To clarify in a different way, Dimensional Barrier negates specifically "Xyz" monsters when you call "Xyz", but facedown monsters are no longer "Xyz" monsters but "typeless" monsters.
      Addendum: When considering "public knowledge", cards that require specific cards for cost can still be activated because they use "private knowledge" instead.
      Icarus Attack can be used on a facedown because tributing a Winged Beast is a cost, hence using private knowledge. Swordsoul Blackout, on the other hand, requires targeting a Wyrm monster for effect, not cost. As such, it requires the monster to be faceup on activation (but not on resolution).

    • @ayoobi1691
      @ayoobi1691 Před rokem

      @@HakuaZR But even if it is for cost in the case of icarus attack, isn't the facedown monster being targeted still technically typeless?

    • @dextmo6890
      @dextmo6890 Před rokem

      @@ayoobi1691 a winged beast must be tributed, not targeted, for icarus attack's cost.

  • @babrad
    @babrad Před rokem

    @2:45 D-barrier VS Book of Moon
    I disagree (somewhat) with the initial explanation because [1] D-Barrier isn't like Skill Drain which clearly states "face-up" on the field, also Book Of Moon [2] does NOT make the monster LEAVE the field. So by taking D-Barrier's wording into account, Ariseheart is still on the field and D-Barrier should work... BUT!!!!
    The only reason this won't work is because (as you said) D-Barrier [1!] can no longer "verify" if the effect of that card is the effect of an XYZ monster since it is not public knowledge anymore, while [2] D-Barrier's applied effect check the card type during resolution and is directly tied to the card, unlike for example Ash Blossom/Baronne that strictly care about the said effect.
    TLDR; "D-Barrier does not apply to face-down monsters" is perfect, and if they require further explanation you talk about face-downs and avoid the rabbit hole of "Skill Drain/no longer on the field".
    BONUS TIP 1 (locals-only): If you know they are programmer/IT etc, just say "face-downs have UNDEFINED characteristics"
    BONUS TIP 2 (when they appeal): If they argue how can "Icarus Attack/Purge Ray" verify the face-down card is a "Winged-Best/Xyz" respectively, you explain that -konami said so- they use said monster as cost so it will become public knowledge at the time of activation )
    @5:35 Prosperity/Droll VS Book of Eclipse
    The required action must happen directly during the resolution of said effect (here it's drawing, another example is Mirrorjade's EP destruction effect VS Stardust Dragon/My Body as a Shield/Psychic End Punisher). It's different from "not guaranteed to happen" cases, like "Snipe Hunter/Dangers".
    @9:05 Runick VS Deckout
    I disagree with that ruling (just like TTT vs Construct/Chimera), but I knew it from Lightsworns and I constantly keep the note from the database -to remind myself- that Runicks share the Necroface ruling. I believe they should make it a game mechanic and omit the text "the entire deck if less than X" for such cards (mill/banish X from the top of the deck) OR print it on every card that works that way. There is no need to search for such a ruling when it should be decided on the cards/mechanics themselves.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      Okay you gonna agree about my argument
      Set monster effect cannot be negated unless it is negated by lingering effect

  • @Qd0tv
    @Qd0tv Před rokem +1

    What about the Diablosis ruling? If th eenemy doesent have enough cards on deck, he cant banisch at all am i wrong about that?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      Diablosis:
      - If at the time of activation (the trigger to banish from the deck), There is equal or more cards in the at the time of activation it will activate.
      - If somehow during that chain, the number of cards was reduced, it will continue to resolve as the specified number to match the precedent of the rule #2. Because all those other cases were also suppose to mill a specific amount, but will try to fulfill as much as possible.
      - If there wasnt enough cards before the activation then it cannot activate at all

  • @peter9627
    @peter9627 Před rokem

    i am relatively new, so i got a maybe stupid question: i thought set monsters effects dont work. so why does the effect of ariseheart go through?

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla Před rokem

      Arise resolves successfully because it doesn't require to be face-up when resolving its effect.
      Changing its position doesn't negate its effect or stops it from resolving.
      Btw, it isn't an stupid question.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      There are some monster that have its effect as continous spell/trap like effect... If it does, it will be explained like this:
      *This card must be face-up on the field to activate and to resolve the effect*
      Some of these:
      Naturia Synchro monsters that negates: Naturia Beast, Naturia Barkion
      Erratad Zombie Master
      King Tiger Wanghu
      Some others need the condition be fullfilled from start till it finish resolving
      It will say:
      *must [condition] to activate and to resolve the effect*
      Otherwise if a monster starts an effect and just not be negated, it resolves successfully

  • @zjweele13
    @zjweele13 Před rokem

    Regarding the xyz being face down as not being public knowledge. At a regional i was playing against a rikka player. One of their monsters can special summon itself by tributing a plant monster on the field. The monster he was tributing was face down. I called a judge asking if that was allowed because the typing of the monster was unknown. The judge allowed it. Was he correct because tributing a monster works differently, or have i been duped? :P

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      Paying a COST is different via tributing because 1. It is upon activation, and it reveals the monster upon paying the cost. Like Icarus attacking with face down wing beast for cost.
      There is a difference in the paying of cost and activation vs things that need to confirm during resolution.

    • @ChampionMarx
      @ChampionMarx Před rokem +1

      @@KuroJet correct

    • @babrad
      @babrad Před rokem +1

      @@KuroJet Additionally for face-down monsters, cards like "Mischief of the Gnomes" (vs Sprights would make them level 1) DO NOT apply to them so you can legally use them to pay those costs.

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse Před rokem +1

      @@MSTTV Tributing and using as Fusion Material have a specific ruling where the opponent's cards that require specific conditions (e.g. certain typing, level, attribute, etc.) can be used with non-public knowledge cards because they will be revealed to the opponent on resolution to determine if they are legal. If the card would shuffle back into the deck/extra deck/return to hand or banish face-down, you must reveal the Tribute fodder/Fusion material to make it public knowledge to verify the legality. This is why you can Ritual Summon or Fusion Summon using face down cards on the field as material, as long as they are legal targets. For example you can use Meteonis Drytron Tributing a face-down monster even though face-down monsters don't have ATK or typing. Does not have to be for cost.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      When you tributing for cost, it should need to have its cost correct at activation no matter what the position monster is

  • @thereaper5171
    @thereaper5171 Před rokem

    damn now i want all runick cards to 1

  • @dustinbutcher2281
    @dustinbutcher2281 Před rokem

    I got one for ya, when you activate a trap, your opponent chains, can you chain lady still. Labyrinth question, my friend says no but online sims say yes. What's the truth there

  • @HeimdallsMight
    @HeimdallsMight Před rokem +3

    I think if you want us to think for ourselfs and try to answer the questions you should put up the exact card text. Otherwise we always need to look it up before continueing to watch

  • @Belawhatever
    @Belawhatever Před rokem

    In the first example, if arise heart had 4 material instead of 3, and when it flipped face down still had a material, would barrier negate it then? It’s public knowledge at that point that the monster has xyz materials. Hmm

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      Nope, if it had 1 material it still wouldn't be negated. It's face down and d-barrier cannot apply to face down cards.

  • @aerondight7378
    @aerondight7378 Před rokem +1

    I don't understand the first one. On the Yu-Gi-Oh flipped face down chart, the only thing that's remembered is the type of summon. Arise-Heart is an XYZ Summon. So why in this case is not remembered, therefore DB can't negate it?

    • @HakuaZR
      @HakuaZR Před rokem

      It's a bit subtle, but face-down cards remember their "summon conditions" but not "what they are".
      A facedown Ariseheart will remember that it was "Xyz Summoned" but that's all. A monster that was "Xyz Summoned" does not make it an Xyz monster, even though that sounds silly.
      Facedown cards will still be considered "typeless" even if they remember "how" they were summoned.
      To give an example of how this can come into play: "Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo" destroys all Special Summoned monsters when it is flipped face-up. It will still destroy a face-down Ariseheart because it will still remember that it was Xyz Summoned (a Special Summon).

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      You cannot negate a monster that is set
      That is only time no matter how many negate that targets it will resolve since monster set cannot have condition negated (except it is lingering negation)
      I gonna add this
      If the negation is blanket if the monster leaves the field it doesn't get negated... Maybe also including edge case that the monster becomes S/T

  • @elliecccg7791
    @elliecccg7791 Před rokem

    tom please i need to know can you ash/belle ninjitsu notebook of mystery. it says Set, NOT "special summon facedown"

    • @lockednumero1
      @lockednumero1 Před rokem

      You can, special summon or set are regarded the same.

    • @therarehunter8540
      @therarehunter8540 Před rokem +3

      Setting a monster other than the traditional way by using your "normal summon" , will be treated as a special summon, unless stated otherwise.

    • @StriveTheDon
      @StriveTheDon Před rokem +2

      setting a monster by a card effect from the hand, deck, or gy is considered special summoning. For example, if you use spright starter and then toadally awesome negate and destroy a monster who is not level 2, then you cannot set that monster to your field because setting it is considered a type of special summon.

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      Yes you can... its the same reason why you can negate Toad with solemn strike if it negates a pendulum scale activation or a monster.

  • @xanderdiez1958
    @xanderdiez1958 Před rokem

    The Ryu quote I like I like

  • @Deathkitten000
    @Deathkitten000 Před rokem

    Wait wait for the first ruling the whole reason were saying D-Barrier wont work is because the card on the field that was Arise-heart is no longer "on the field". So if its "no longer on the field" doesnt the effect fizzle on the chain since technically there is no card on the field capable of activating that effect? That "not on the field" game state could also be used in the opponents favor for this ruling on its own: As an opponent I could argue that if "not on the field" means no public knowledge then I how do I know that there ever was an Arise heart present on the field? IF your gonna say that D-Barrier cant affect it because the game state doesn't acknowledge the existence at all of Ariseheart, then the game state should equally acknowledge that there is no card on the field to resolve the chain. Kind of seems like that "not on the field" ruling is a double standard.

  • @josephtodd9877
    @josephtodd9877 Před rokem

    Hi , if i use pot of prospérity can i use book of éclipse on the same turn ?

    • @KuroJet
      @KuroJet Před rokem

      .... this question is LITERALLY in the video...

    • @josephtodd9877
      @josephtodd9877 Před rokem

      @@KuroJet not the same situation, and my english is not good

    • @josephtodd9877
      @josephtodd9877 Před rokem

      I use google trad to write ^^

    • @babrad
      @babrad Před rokem +2

      @@josephtodd9877 Your OPPONENT may draw from Eclipse. YOU are locked from Prosperity. So it doesn't matter anyway.

  • @perryhuynh1452
    @perryhuynh1452 Před rokem

    In scenario 2, can Player A ash the book of eclipse? I Know that ash can negate the book in normal situation but here, player A can't draw in anyway so can Ash still negate? T4R.

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla Před rokem

      You can, he's activating a card that includes adding a card from the deck to the hand.

  • @ItsTipsy121
    @ItsTipsy121 Před rokem

    How does arise-heart still get its effect if flipped face down before its effect in the chain??? That makes no sense... technically if arise-heart is face down its considered to be a set monster with no effect/type/attribute.

    • @VforViolin
      @VforViolin Před rokem

      The effect was already activated while it was face-up, so even though it was flipped face-down before its chain link resolves, the effect still resolves, as flipping a monster face-down does not negate a monster's effect if it's been activated, unless the monsters effect were to state that it must be face-up to resolve.

  • @tsvetomirsheev3882
    @tsvetomirsheev3882 Před rokem

    Lol as someone that doesnt play MD that prosp and maxx C interaction is hilarious

  • @martinmastache3649
    @martinmastache3649 Před rokem

    Can i activate a danger eff if my opp droll me?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem

      yes, you just won't draw if you summon. BECAUSE There is no guarantee that you summon and draw, if you discarded the card with a same name.

  • @ashleymaple16
    @ashleymaple16 Před rokem

    Them first two ruling contradict each other so rise heart gets to resolve even after you say it’s not technically on the field and yet Kashtira Unicorn same scenario gets booked then you say it does not get to resolve

  • @BADOU225
    @BADOU225 Před rokem +2

    When will you do a video on the potential of heroes, specially with the new support out. I would love to hear your opinion and take on a classic deck.

  • @maartenboy37
    @maartenboy37 Před rokem

    In example one the Ariseheart materials should have been banished.

  • @jadenyuki312
    @jadenyuki312 Před rokem

    Ok here’s a really stupid ruling that happened at a regional a couple weeks ago
    Player A (ABC THERION)
    Player B (Traptrix)
    Player A activates set rotation giving himself the therion field and the opponent union hanger
    Player A flips the therion field does his play passes turn
    Player B then tried to activate the traptrix field over the set union hanger, player A calls judge saying he can’t because of set rotation, judge ruled that player B CAN activate the traptrix field because GRAMMATICALLY because 1 of the field spells was activated the “either of those field spells” clause doesn’t apply anymore because 1 of them was activated, ruling seemed extremely wrong because what’s the point of set rotation giving ur opponent a field they can’t activate like order of chaos or oracle of zefra if that clause is undone when 1 field is flipped
    Please enlighten me thank you

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +2

      Well that judge is wrong. Nothing to enlighten.
      The wording is clear. WHILE either of those cards REMAIN SET (as long as there is 1 set) NEITHER player can activate OR SET other field spells.

    • @GGuerrilla
      @GGuerrilla Před rokem

      Wouldn’t you need to activate the set Hangar FS before activating the traptrix garden? Set rotation states “ while either of those cards are set, neither player can activate or set other FS. Seems explained in the card text?

    • @jadenyuki312
      @jadenyuki312 Před rokem +1

      @@GGuerrilla I think player B thought union hanger was like gateway of chaos and oracle of zefra where u can’t flip them unless u have a target to search

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      What I know is that is Union Hangar search is optional
      Judge should complain he can't just activate or set new field spell directly while that set Field spell is there
      Explain to him that they should activate set Union hangar first before activate traptrix field (I don't sure this would happen lol)
      If your opponent complain after u do that, say to opponent that you read your card is OPTIONALLY NOT MANDATORILY search that I can legally activate that even with no target at all and you are right about I can't just activate it directly

  • @keepweeb4488
    @keepweeb4488 Před rokem

    Good morning from germany, Tom, or maybe someone in the community can answer my question:
    Opp activate evenly, me: activate the effect of arise heart.. cl1 evenly, cl2 arise heart..
    Cl-Resolve: cl2: Evenly will be banished facedown.. cl1: evenly? Can my opponent still activate evenly or not bc its banished FD?
    I hope someone can help me

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla Před rokem +1

      Evenly resolves successfully and force you to banish your cards.
      This is because its activation/effect wasn't negated.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem +1

      Removing a normal spell/quick spell/normal trap card does not make its effect cancelled bro
      It is just like old meme MST negates lol
      Also they already activated evenly why you ask that even... If you control no cards they can't activate second evenly if any

    • @keepweeb4488
      @keepweeb4488 Před rokem

      Thx guys 💪🏼

  • @seb6stian
    @seb6stian Před rokem

    But why are you allowed to ash eclipse if you are not sure if you are going to draw?

    • @cameraredeye3115
      @cameraredeye3115 Před rokem +1

      Because Book of Eclipse INCLUDES an effect that allows a player to draw cards, regardless of whether or not the opponent actually draws cards during the End Phase.

    • @seb6stian
      @seb6stian Před rokem

      @@cameraredeye3115 oh ok now i understood it, thank you for telling me 😅

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      Ash just negate the effect that includes anything written in ash, not necessary that card should do that exact action to be ashed

  • @ImAMenace
    @ImAMenace Před rokem

    i still dont get it, i do understand D barrier cant negate, but why can the effect go through, even if it was a cost effect, why can ariseheart still banish GM? shouldnt the effect just not resolve since there is no Ariseheart on the field and therefore no effect to be able to resolve and of course target a card?

    • @MSTTV
      @MSTTV  Před rokem +1

      Someone activates skill drain stratos.. you chained book of moon on your stratos, ur stratos still resolves. Cards that already activated doesn't go away.

    • @ImAMenace
      @ImAMenace Před rokem

      @@MSTTV thanks...isnt it just fun when all of this things can be explained with cards with over a decade of existance

  • @CharltonTCG
    @CharltonTCG Před rokem

    I got ruled against me that I couldn’t activate a book of eclipse whilst my opponent was under droll. Judge then head judge said it can’t activate. I lost from that point and that was game 3 would of made me 4-0. 10 minutes after the game both judges came grovelling over to me to apologise for messing up that ruling. Ruined the rest of my day :/

  • @verbalengine95
    @verbalengine95 Před rokem

    Dimensional Barrier working like skill drain but bagooska not is so stupid and understanding why it works that way doesn't make it less stupid

    • @potatoexe5410
      @potatoexe5410 Před rokem

      No it isn't stupid at all. Read them and you'll see d-barrier is the similar to skill drain that requires the monster still be on the field. ABC buster dragon will work under d barrier since it removes itself from field as part of cost. Bagooska does not state that at all in its text and specifically tells you what it will negate, which is monster effects activated while that monster was in def mode, which regardless of where the card went it the gamestate still knows what position it was at when the effect activated.

  • @tuavaresm
    @tuavaresm Před rokem

    Why is the first scenario ruled like that, when you book a monster your opponent controls you can flip it to check the defense?
    Live the NFT idea😂😂

  • @burythelight5104
    @burythelight5104 Před rokem

    I can't believe all these rulings needed to be explained in the 1st place.

    • @gamermancrygamer9461
      @gamermancrygamer9461 Před rokem

      Right? Yugioh rules shouldn't be this convoluted and unintuitive in the first place.

    • @burythelight5104
      @burythelight5104 Před rokem

      @@gamermancrygamer9461 I wont disagree with you on that one, as simple things could be done to prevent misunderstandings, one being the "If/When" difference. But for this topic these ruling are pretty common sense.

    • @jofx4051
      @jofx4051 Před rokem

      It is no longer ruling needed... You need to understand more the game mechanics when something unusual happens... It is like hidden game mechanics since the game evolves with many effects
      Like this one I don't even know till I read
      This is initially come from a ruling but it becomes should know game mechanic:
      So if a monster changes into S/T or vice versa they are no longer considered the same card
      Say you wanna Drident a monster and that monster somehow changed into S/T...then that card is no longer considered as same card and not destroyed instead
      There are some more explained at db ygorganization

    • @burythelight5104
      @burythelight5104 Před rokem

      @@jofx4051 The problem many people have is they follow meta trends only, you learn many things by playing shits like Crystal Beasts or even something even more scrubby but fun (Felgrand decks) with Paladin/Guardian of Felgrand which equips monsters, for the kind of ruling you were talking about.

  • @amazinmusic217
    @amazinmusic217 Před rokem

    If you book of moon a monster it is still public knowledge to know everything on that card dont confuse the people Have them thinking I can't know what attack or effect that monster has. Lol

    • @VforViolin
      @VforViolin Před rokem

      A monster that has been flipped facedown technically doesn't have any att/def/attribute, etc. So I believe your opponent doesnt have to tell you what the attack or defense of a monster that you flipped facedown is, as its no longer public knowledge, but if you flipped a Fenrir facedown, you can ask "what is the att/def of kashtira fenrir" which I think is fine. So it's your responsibility to remember whats on the field, where it is, and what its important info is if youre going to flip stuff facedown.

  • @KuroJet
    @KuroJet Před rokem

    First.
    I'll come back to edit after.
    EDIT: I actually got these all right. That first one, I asked in the judge's lounge like 2 weeks ago because a friend I was testing against went to Eclipse a Mirrorjade after I called D-Barrier Fusion. Was interesting to note.
    I always like these.
    Quick question: Do unaffected cards stop the resolving of other cards? Example: Psychic End Punisher (with lower life) vs Marciness Marbled Rock's activated effect.

    • @MetaSheepSlaughterHouse
      @MetaSheepSlaughterHouse Před rokem +2

      If the activation conditions are met, unaffected cards do not stop the resolution. In the case of Marbled Rock, it doesn't affect Psychic End Punisher at all unless somehow it would lose the battle entirely (extremely unlikely but technically possible so I'm mentioning it). Psychic End Punisher attacking in this case would not destroy your monster by battle and you would not take battle damage.

    • @KuroJet
      @KuroJet Před rokem

      @@MetaSheepSlaughterHouse Thanks. Had this come up my last locals and I ruled it correctly (but the PEP player was saying that it would still cause damage), and just reading the cards makes that clear but I needed to be sure.

    • @MetaSheepSlaughterHouse
      @MetaSheepSlaughterHouse Před rokem +2

      @@KuroJet Yeah, Marbled Rock says "You take no battle damage", so it doesn't affect the cards at all.

    • @KuroJet
      @KuroJet Před rokem

      @@MetaSheepSlaughterHouse I thought so. I was like: okay but what does this effect have to do with PEP? Its not going to get destroyed by this battle, so this card literally does nothing to it. It is protecting itself and its player. Nothing more, nothing less. I dunno where that player went and got the ruling that it would cause damage but man were they wrong.

    • @babrad
      @babrad Před rokem +1

      @@KuroJet It's just as Meta Sheep Slaughterhouse said. Being unaffected only interacts with effects that try to apply to said unaffected card. Whether said effects will fail to resolve properly is entirely based on the "activated" cards/effects themselves.
      For example I activate "Raigeki" to destroy your "Marincess Marble Rock", and you chain "Marincess Wave" on my "Sky Striker Ace Kagari", but then i chain "Sky Striker Eagle Booster" (makes Kagari unaffected).
      [1] Eagle booster will resolve to make Kagari unaffected.
      [2] Marincess Wave will not negate my Kagari since she is unaffected, and the effect with STOP there because "then" requires the first part resolving successfully.
      [3] Raigeki will successfully resolve destroying Marble Rock.

  • @THETANNERTHOMPSON
    @THETANNERTHOMPSON Před rokem +29

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  • @Zyocuh
    @Zyocuh Před rokem +1

    For the first example, I know you are able to Sprind face down XYZ materials, why is this a different situation?
    "If another monster is Special Summoned while this card is on the field (except during the Damage Step): You can detach 1 material from an Xyz Monster you control, then target 1 monster on the field; return it to the hand."

  • @stefanambrose5616
    @stefanambrose5616 Před rokem

    Em... i got all of them correct

  • @philwendisch4894
    @philwendisch4894 Před rokem

    You have 5 Seconds because you are a really busy judge😂

  • @gurth-quake1627
    @gurth-quake1627 Před rokem

    the "then" in yugioh means the effects aren't reliant on each other and that they happen one at a time, therefore book of eclipse can be activated and still resolves.

  • @oldtrusty6796
    @oldtrusty6796 Před rokem

    For Eclipse under Prosperity, isn't the best explanation just Danger! under Droll? Same 'not guarenteed' ruling.