What's the Difference between Pyra and Mythra? (SSBU)

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Pyra and Mythra share a lot of the same moves, so what exactly makes these two Aegis girls different?
    Let's take a look at their movesets to find out.
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Komentáře • 321

  • @AlexEXE
    @AlexEXE  Před 3 lety +109

    This series, at least for Smash Ultimate, is nearing its end.
    But I am considering doing episodes for older Smash games, like 64 and Melee.
    If you have any suggestions, feel free to DM me on Twitter: twitter.com/MegaAlexEXE
    Thanks for the support, everyone!

  • @kamichaos3020
    @kamichaos3020 Před 3 lety +349

    I find it funny how Mythra is canonically stronger than Pyra, but Smash said, "let's switch that up"

    • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
      @Wings_Of_Nightfall Před 3 lety +104

      As Sakurai made clear:
      Fire waifu>Light waifu

    • @AlexEXE
      @AlexEXE  Před 3 lety +86

      Why did I never think about this?????

    • @jojoreference945
      @jojoreference945 Před 3 lety +26

      Well it is the switch after all

    • @marwin436
      @marwin436 Před 3 lety +8

      Wrong lol, Mythra is a top tier and pyra like a low mid tier

    • @stickmanbv2375
      @stickmanbv2375 Před 3 lety +2

      I don't like Pyra and Mythra 😕👎 and Pyra and Mythra is ugly and dirty hahahaha 😂

  • @angeldude101
    @angeldude101 Před 3 lety +99

    The fact that their movesets other than their Specials are identical makes sense given that they're literally borrowing each other's muscle memory. In terms of Specials, Pyra's Blazing End is actually copied from Mythra's Terminal Flash.
    Regarding Pyra being stronger, this is actually supported in XC2 where Mythra has higher critical hit chance, while Pyra has higher critical damage. The reason why Mythra is so much stronger in practice is because of Lightspeed Flurry that instantly recharges her attacks when she crits, allowing them to be spammed endlessly. This actually means that Mythra being better at combos in Smash also makes sense given the source material.

  • @DrizzyEddie
    @DrizzyEddie Před 3 lety +310

    One is nice and another one is a tsundere

  • @GamerJulian94
    @GamerJulian94 Před 3 lety +48

    While I generally like Pyra more (she's such an adorable sweetheart), you just can't have one without the other.

  • @chopper8209
    @chopper8209 Před 3 lety +53

    Actually, Pyra’s unique ability is that here forward Smash is extremely powerful.

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 Před 3 lety +5

      It's also got more range than Sonic's side smash... only a little though.

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah whatever. That was just Sakurai reaching because he didn't want Pyra to feel left out.

  • @Angry_Jetpack
    @Angry_Jetpack Před 3 lety +64

    I like Mythra a bit more, bc I like combo characters, but I like Pyra almost just as much. There is something really satisfying about hitting Pyra’s moves.

    • @stickmanbv2375
      @stickmanbv2375 Před 3 lety +1

      You are Bad and Noob with Pyra and Mythra hahahaha 😂

    • @huesitoselhuesotortuga3466
      @huesitoselhuesotortuga3466 Před 3 lety +1

      @@stickmanbv2375 Yes, it is said that Angry Jetpack was Bad and Noob with the Pyra 😃👍

    • @stickmanbv2375
      @stickmanbv2375 Před 3 lety +1

      @@huesitoselhuesotortuga3466 Thank You 😃👍

    • @huesitoselhuesotortuga3466
      @huesitoselhuesotortuga3466 Před 3 lety +1

      @@stickmanbv2375 You're Welcome 😃👍

    • @anzack2551
      @anzack2551 Před 3 lety +20

      @@huesitoselhuesotortuga3466 what the hell is this interaction

  • @wingedbluj1674
    @wingedbluj1674 Před 3 lety +35

    Another tiny fact about their side specials: Pyra's is 2 frames faster than Mythra's.

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Před 2 lety

      Also, Mythra's side special just sucks total ass.

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Před 3 lety +18

    Lightning Buster is hilarious to use on walk off stages especially when paired with Photon Edge

    • @MorrisPXG
      @MorrisPXG Před 2 lety +3

      They are Broken,U can just spam it and switch to Pyra to send them to Minecraft

  • @amoura39
    @amoura39 Před 3 lety +19

    What a lovely analysis this is looking out to be!

  • @GmanSir
    @GmanSir Před 3 lety +6

    Love this series. It’s the best Smash clone comparison videos on CZcams.

  • @k.o.d752
    @k.o.d752 Před 3 lety +3

    Fun fact: there's a specific hitbox in the inside of the hit, that can two-frame, and half of down-air spike the other half being a sour hit AND, yes I'm a Solo Pyra

  • @SueZQue83
    @SueZQue83 Před 3 lety +13

    So basically one is strong but slow and heavy and the other is weak but fast and light? Makes sense to me

    • @ShadowDante7
      @ShadowDante7 Před 3 lety +4

      And that’s why they are so op, such a perfect character combination!

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Před 3 lety +80

    The difference? Mythra only is more competitive viable than Pyra only.

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Před 2 lety +3

      Mythra wouldn't be very good on her own either. She needs Pyra to kill, and unlike Shiek who is also not strong, Mythra's recovery would be in contention for worst in the game without Pyra.

    • @justmiyalmao
      @justmiyalmao Před rokem +1

      @@randumo24 mythras recovery is better lmao

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Před rokem +2

      @@justmiyalmao They are both important in their recovery, and Pyra's up-b is better for recovery.
      Sure Mythra technically has a second recovery option with her side-b, but it is also an awful option that's only viable as a mix-up. Any decent player that knows it's coming will either punish it hard or straight up KO you if they have a spike.

    • @justmiyalmao
      @justmiyalmao Před rokem

      @@randumo24 yeah but also mythra's up b has more horizontal control whereas pyra's goes directly up but not to the side

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Před rokem

      @@justmiyalmao It also doesn't go up as high or snap as well to the ledge. More importantly, if you do miss at all, Mythra's up-b leaves you in freefall whereas Pyra's gives you a hitbox coming down.

  • @starpetalarts6668
    @starpetalarts6668 Před rokem +5

    Yo, you said Pyra doesn't have an unique ability but she kind of has that side tilt special that can be maneuvered to cover stage control.

  • @samsneedtoplay1479
    @samsneedtoplay1479 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice music choice for the video

  • @TheGamersState
    @TheGamersState Před 3 lety +3

    I'm gonna miss this series but hey, at least it means more of the other stuff!

  • @skykid863
    @skykid863 Před 3 lety +1

    0:43-0:51 I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO PUT THAT IN!

  • @Eliezer12346
    @Eliezer12346 Před 2 lety +1

    One is sweet and one is headstrong that’s how sakurai describes it

  • @amoura39
    @amoura39 Před 3 lety +12

    Wait ... is Pyra's nair really a single hit? I thought it was multi as well. I thought I recall finding it surprising when they first came out.

  • @Wild_Kid
    @Wild_Kid Před 3 lety +5

    I think you should do one about Link and Young Link.

  • @podiacider
    @podiacider Před 3 lety +1

    1:03 I just want to point out that (for whatever reason) smash calls her smash attacks being powered up with fire, if you look under the move list that shows character’s special moves and final smash (like how Rex mentions in the trailer)being super duper strong, even though all of her sword attacks are powered up with fire, and how strong your smash attacks are is just a character strengths and weaknesses.

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 Před 3 lety

      This just means Olimar's red Pikmin have a huge advantage over Pyra.

  • @kuramisaga
    @kuramisaga Před 3 lety +1

    nice video. maybe you can do the two pits next? it'll probably be a shorter video, but i'd like to see your insight on their neutral and side specials.

  • @JaredTVW
    @JaredTVW Před 3 lety +3

    When they were released, Mythra was as fast as Sheik and Pyramid was as fast as Zelda. With the Swap out mechanic. It feels like this was what Sheik and Zelda were envisioned to be in Melee. It works better here because they both use the same fighting style overall and weapon type.

    • @zeyanhtet9040
      @zeyanhtet9040 Před 3 lety +6

      I love it when the Great Pyramid of Giza starts running as fast as Zelda

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 Před 2 lety +3

      Pyra also doesn't suck, unlike Zelda.
      If Zelda was worth a damn in Melee, the swap-out mechanic would've actually been used by players who knew what they were doing.

  • @Angry_Jetpack
    @Angry_Jetpack Před 3 lety +1

    The music got me. 👌👌👌 perfect choices.

  • @samarthgour3026
    @samarthgour3026 Před 3 lety +2

    One is a heavy hitter and they other is a rushdown

  • @asdqaz01
    @asdqaz01 Před 3 lety +24

    A big difference that wasn't mentioned is that Mythra's nair has a landing hitbox, and Pyra's doesn't

  • @fatboi1000
    @fatboi1000 Před 3 lety +5

    But both of them have something in common: Rex.

  • @jeremiahstoner8448
    @jeremiahstoner8448 Před 3 lety +6

    Pyra And Mythra are interesting, they are like Ganondorf and Captain Falcon

  • @eonamiella2124
    @eonamiella2124 Před 3 lety +3

    I play both in tournaments but I prefer Pyra a bit more

  • @tristancampbell4941
    @tristancampbell4941 Před 3 lety +3

    Someone needs to make a Ryuko/'Sasuki mod for Pyra/Mythra

  • @AshenDemon
    @AshenDemon Před 2 lety +1

    8:44 I love doing that when I can, except I'm more toxic with it and continue to do it even when they are already dead.

  • @Zoroark_Master
    @Zoroark_Master Před 3 lety +1

    I preferred mythra way before they were even announced for smash (bought XC2 day 1 and it’s my third favourite game of all time)

  • @ViorbyX
    @ViorbyX Před rokem

    Cool. I hope some people including me want *Kirby's* echo fighter like Shadow Kirby or anyone else

  • @DigitalHazard567
    @DigitalHazard567 Před 3 lety +3

    Small correction: Pyra has an actual ability like Mythra's Foresight as illustrated in their presentation and their move lists, which is...... Her side Smash is really, really, really strong......... You know what? Yeah, she doesn't has an ability like her.

    • @ShallBePurified
      @ShallBePurified Před 3 lety

      Pyra's special ability is that she hits really hard... Yeah not that special when other characters are like that too.

    • @kirbyof590stars
      @kirbyof590stars Před 3 lety

      @@ShallBePurified I don’t know why the developers even put that in. They say that Pyra’s unique ability is, “Her attack is powered up with fire, this is exclusive to her,” it’s literally just Hero’s forward Smash. I just find both of them to be really boring, all of their normals except for their down Smash and up Smash are just copy cats if other characters, which is annoying. They couldn’t even make them unique characters.

    • @ShallBePurified
      @ShallBePurified Před 3 lety

      @@kirbyof590stars They're the most fun DLC. Also, the arguments that "moves are copycat of other characters" is always a dumb argument and makes no sense. Mythra plays like literally no other character in the cast. No other sword character matches her speed and burst range. Not even close. Pyra is a bit more vanilla though, but the fact they can change between each other is unique in Ultimate because Pokemon Trainer is the only other character that can do it. And prior characters that had transformations sucked at utilizing them at a competitive level. Zelda was useless in tournament and people only used Sheik. Same with Samus, and people only using ZSS in Brawl. Besides Ultimate Pokemon Trainer, they're the only other transformation change character that uses it well in a competitive setting.

    • @kirbyof590stars
      @kirbyof590stars Před 3 lety

      @@ShallBePurified yeah, aside from the copy cat moves, I agree her *play style* is unique.

  • @michaelsosa4891
    @michaelsosa4891 Před 3 lety +1

    Long hair go zoom and short hair go boom

  • @julo_ghost
    @julo_ghost Před 3 lety +3

    What's the difference between Link and Mii swordfighter next pls. There is so many moves similar to each other

    • @MrBulletwood
      @MrBulletwood Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, kind of like Mii Brawler and Mario, or like Samus and Mii Gunner

  • @squirtle3744
    @squirtle3744 Před 3 lety +1

    I love this series!

  • @los_tercos
    @los_tercos Před 3 lety +5

    Can you do a video what’s the difference between pit and dark pit

    • @GameWheelReal
      @GameWheelReal Před 3 lety +4

      Video: starts
      *their bows and side specials are different*
      *Ends*

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 Před 3 lety +2

      @@GameWheelReal and the final smash.

    • @GameWheelReal
      @GameWheelReal Před 3 lety +1

      @@ayar2 yep, forgot that too

  • @mariomythes2807
    @mariomythes2807 Před 7 měsíci

    It’s sad that you never talked about the differences between Samus & Dark Samus, and Roy & Chrom because although they have a identical moveset both have if I am not mistaken still some differences like Dark Samus’s forward smash which like Dr. Mario has electricity instead of a fiery explosion and Chrom has wind effects instead of fire effects. Peach & Daisy and Simon & Richter though are the exact same aside from some aesthetic differences and different Holy Water for Richter which is more watery than fiery

  • @MinMin4theWinWin
    @MinMin4theWinWin Před 9 měsíci

    I'm surprised that you haven't done the differences between dark pit and pit :0

  • @derekmundo6084
    @derekmundo6084 Před 8 měsíci

    The OSC dudes are (probably) going insane after this one:
    7:49
    (because that word reminds them of Firey from BFDI)

  • @Moon_Light67x
    @Moon_Light67x Před 2 lety +1

    I love using Mythra for all my games plays...I used her so much I actually main her. The only time I use Pyra is when I need to spike someone or just finish someone off. But that's all 😂😂😂

  • @thomasbayan972
    @thomasbayan972 Před 3 lety +1

    im not big on combos and i cant edge guard (at times when i did edge guard is by sheer luck one with dr. mario against dark pit and pichu against ryu) so ill go with pyra because of her managable speed and useful range and power

  • @JN2002
    @JN2002 Před 3 lety +1

    conclussion
    Pyra = Stronger
    Mythra = Faster
    Which one do you think is more important?...

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 Před 3 lety

      you want to run circles on your opponent? use mythra
      you want to kill people? use pyra

  • @lgflbrandyascognac
    @lgflbrandyascognac Před 3 lety

    I haven't played smash but I think they're really good after seeing people using them

  • @Willchannel90
    @Willchannel90 Před 3 lety

    Rex from Xenoblade 2: It's not fair... I'm not in Smash bros.
    But a mii costume and an ally character....

  • @RSTLegacy
    @RSTLegacy Před 3 lety

    I prefer pyra's design to mythra's.
    but as fighters.. i do really prefer using mythra most of the match and switching to pyra whenever i feel i need her to ensure a KO, i also sometimes use her to live longer knowing that she's just a little bit heavier

  • @Melike2draw
    @Melike2draw Před 2 lety

    Great video my dude, can you do Daisy and Peach next? :D

  • @idontknowwhatsthischannela673

    I can already imagine people waiting for the difference between Peach and Daisy

  • @podiacider
    @podiacider Před 3 lety

    Alex uploads poggers

  • @IK-yb5rn
    @IK-yb5rn Před 3 lety +2

    I’m still waiting for the Wario/Mega Man difference video

    • @deathpie24
      @deathpie24 Před 3 lety +1

      One can eat a cheese burger, the other one dies if he touches anything sharp

  • @SuperSaga2191
    @SuperSaga2191 Před 3 lety

    dude, you can charge smash attacks
    No hate, love the vid!

  • @YellowChargeStone
    @YellowChargeStone Před 3 lety +2

    Alex who's more of your main: Roy, Mega Man, Banjo-Kazooie, or Pyra/Mythra?

    • @Menacetosociety05
      @Menacetosociety05 Před 3 lety +4

      It’s none of those characters actually. He mains Alex.

    • @Portersona69420
      @Portersona69420 Před 3 lety

      @@Menacetosociety05 LMAO. Thats actually clever.

  • @SKI_VVSKEY
    @SKI_VVSKEY Před 8 měsíci

    0:05🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Dark_Side_Productions
    @Dark_Side_Productions Před 2 lety

    I prefer Pyra, but probably because she’s closer to my main from before I got the Fighter Pass 2 a couple of days ago (Byleth)

  • @sternritter8532
    @sternritter8532 Před 3 lety

    With wifi connecting to the internet, I think we know the difference between the two.
    And I mean WE know, the difference...very well...

  • @thiscommenter180
    @thiscommenter180 Před 3 lety +2

    Man, you could compare any two characters and I’d still watch it. It’s just that pure fun

  • @thetky_clan666
    @thetky_clan666 Před 3 lety

    I love Speed more than raw power even if I am a reckless fighter (which I tend to be) so *Mythra* for me yet again.
    Also, I like Mythra more since she actually acts like a house wife (most of the time) which is usually headstrong and adamant which is something I like 😁👍

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 Před 3 lety +1

      but . . .can she cook?? B)

    • @thetky_clan666
      @thetky_clan666 Před 3 lety +1

      She doesn't need to cook for how good she looks in my eyes @@ayar2.
      I'm a lazy guy but I can *probably* do it for the both of us.

    • @swindle6644
      @swindle6644 Před rokem

      Entirely fair

  • @nileshsmith5255
    @nileshsmith5255 Před 2 lety +1

    Pyra and mythra is so cool and hot

  • @EnGlayer
    @EnGlayer Před 3 lety

    Could you make a video of Link and Young Link differences?

  • @danielokorie114
    @danielokorie114 Před rokem

    You should do what's the diffence between Roy and Chrom

  • @Dan_-
    @Dan_- Před 3 lety +3

    One can power up her Smash Attack with fayah!?
    And the other can even use THAT!?
    But both can pretty much own seezinned fitars!

  • @Dman25
    @Dman25 Před 3 lety +1

    It looks like there are three people rudely spamming the same thing in replies.

  • @danielokorie114
    @danielokorie114 Před rokem

    I love Pyra and Mythra

  • @NathanGaming395ngGamer
    @NathanGaming395ngGamer Před 3 lety +1

    There Zelda and Sheik with falcon and Ganondorf thrown in

  • @Blood-Kain
    @Blood-Kain Před rokem

    Think of Pyra/Mythra like Ryu and Ken.
    Ryu and Pyra’s moves are slower but the benefits in power is worth it. Not to mention that Ryu and Pyra have better zoning capabilities than Ken and Mythra.
    Ken and Mythra’s moves are weaker. But they get the benefit of speed and combo potential.

  • @JessicaZolman
    @JessicaZolman Před rokem +1

    Can you make a difference between dark Samus and samus

  • @amoura39
    @amoura39 Před 3 lety +6

    Pyra players who only know how to spam specials and smash attacks gang 😎

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 Před 3 lety +1

      even thats pretty effective in a brawl with 3 or more people.

  • @amoura39
    @amoura39 Před 3 lety +1

    PhoZon Edge!

  • @arwashafout9114
    @arwashafout9114 Před rokem +1

    Do peach and daisi

  • @desh206
    @desh206 Před 3 lety +1

    Whit be pyra be a little bit havier
    I think we all now were this is going

  • @walkinburro
    @walkinburro Před 2 lety +1

    Pneuma would be broken af

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 Před 3 lety

    Between the events of Xenoblade 2 and Ultimate Pyra hit the gym HARD.
    Also I'm with Sakurai over who's better.

    • @TheEmperorGulcasa
      @TheEmperorGulcasa Před 3 lety +1

      She does actually do really high damage in the right setup in XC2 also, with her really high crit damage and ability to set up powerful fire combo dot damage. It's just much less easily useful as Mythra's kit that fuels all the game's basic mechanics.

    • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
      @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 Před 3 lety

      @@TheEmperorGulcasa Huh. I didn't actually know that, so thank you!

  • @ヴィンスモーク
    @ヴィンスモーク Před 3 lety +1

    Hey can you do Fox and Wolf maybe

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince Před 2 lety +2

    Sakurai prefers Pyra, therefore she is superior

  • @bigboylockie7652
    @bigboylockie7652 Před 3 lety

    What about the difference between Dr Mario and Luigi or Roy and chrom

  • @jklleskov2699
    @jklleskov2699 Před 3 lety

    YEAH I LOVE THESE😄😁👍👍👍

  • @smashcraft9743
    @smashcraft9743 Před 3 lety

    Please do this series for brawl

  • @karimemorales-lopez9771
    @karimemorales-lopez9771 Před 3 lety +1

    Da difference is one yellow cloths and da other red

  • @DRlNKlNG
    @DRlNKlNG Před 2 lety

    Mythra has a longer sword than Pyra when the uses her smash power.

  • @Its_me_Stolas
    @Its_me_Stolas Před rokem

    So basically you are choosing between Assault rifle and smg

  • @danielokorie114
    @danielokorie114 Před rokem

    Pyra and Mythra are my main in super smash bros ultimate

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Před 3 lety

    As I expected

  • @wetown1972
    @wetown1972 Před 3 lety +1

    Ranking all taunts?

  • @TDGAA
    @TDGAA Před 3 lety

    *Pyra:*
    Kuudere
    Short hair
    Redhead
    Firepower
    Inflicts more damage
    Lacks speed
    *Mythra:*
    Tsundere
    Long hair
    Blondie
    Light
    Inflicts less damage
    Superior speed

  • @topsecret770
    @topsecret770 Před 3 lety

    I like Pyra. But mythra fits my rush down playstyle.

  • @nehemiaspaz8233
    @nehemiaspaz8233 Před 3 lety +1

    am I the only one that thinks that pit and dark pit have more differences than pyra and mythra?
    just sa'in

  • @Umbreona
    @Umbreona Před 2 lety

    I prefer Pyra but switch as needed.

  • @StakeoutStyleGarchomp
    @StakeoutStyleGarchomp Před 29 dny

    you forgot the size of their...

  • @gwenlaylsisthesnakereviewe7374

    Mythra for sure

  • @NigelThrashner
    @NigelThrashner Před 3 lety

    Gawd, the soundtrack to XBC2 is 🔥 🤩. Mythra’s final smash should have been Siren 😭.

  • @rtg_j0318
    @rtg_j0318 Před 3 lety +7

    Jesus is King and loves u and thanks for the great content

  • @jeremiahhester6408
    @jeremiahhester6408 Před 3 lety

    I never find them similar to begin with. It's kinda like saying What's the difference between Ike and Roy.

  • @jklleskov2699
    @jklleskov2699 Před 3 lety

    Can you do pit and dark pit next? 👍

    • @Metalc
      @Metalc Před 3 lety +1

      Pit and dark pit literally only have two differences.

  • @qu4ry529
    @qu4ry529 Před 3 lety

    Do wolf and fox

  • @spiritedchung5926
    @spiritedchung5926 Před 3 lety

    Wait, what about Mythra's Foresight

  • @arwashafout9114
    @arwashafout9114 Před rokem

    Do shike and zalde

  • @Mr.Galaxia
    @Mr.Galaxia Před 3 lety

    Hey skedadudlers

  • @Traveler.of.teyvat
    @Traveler.of.teyvat Před 3 lety

    Was this video really worth it