Jay Slater: Spanish Police Investigating Background Of Missing Teen | “An Interesting Development”
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- Talk’s Mike Graham is joined by investigations reporter at The Sunday Times, Katie Tarrant, as the search continues for missing British teenager Jay Slater.
The 19-year-old from Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, disappeared following an attempt to walk back to his accommodation after missing a bus while on holiday in Tenerife.
He had attended the NRG music festival on the island with two friends before his disappearance and was last heard from on Monday last week.
The walk from Mr Slater’s last known location, Rural de Teno Park in the north of the island, to his accommodation would have taken about 11 hours on foot.
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maybe if the UK judge had of done a better job, Mr Slater would be in prison and not on a holiday island.
Don't give him the dignity of "Mr". Just "Slater" will do.
The judges have to do what they are told to do or they get struck off. Everything you see them do is government agenda. Much like doctors.
They all started jobs or apprenticeships , to show they were reformed🤔
@@Ray-555don't forget "promising footballer" ... not sure if that was claimed in his instance though
Get Rodney, Del and Raquel on the case. They'll sniff out Slater.
STOP DONATING MONEY, YOU SILLY PEOPLE!!!!!
fools and their money easily parted.
well said
His mother needs to pay off his drug debts or she could get whacked as well.
@everyone
Have you seen the parallels between Shannon Matthews (false kidnap) & Jay Slater over on my side by the numbers?
Interesting that Karen Matthews situation is mentioned in this case to say the least
Also, What the News 📰 give us doesn't suffice, doesn't add up like TERRYOLOGY!!! 🤷🏾♂️ 😅 *BUHDOMTSSS!!!*
£30,000? What is this money for? Who is going to control it?
Imagine if he actually got punished for his crime, his mum would know where he was 🤷♀
She wouldn't have to worry one little bit now. I'm gobsmacked the British system lets a juvenile near murderer go on a drug fuelled holiday in the south of Tenerife? It's balmy.
@@hsk2909 Right? He got a slap on the wrist, didn't learn his lesson and now he's missing. If only karma hit everyone like that. His mum probably felt as smug as he did when he got off with it.
Aliens took him
His friend Lucy should be investigated, something does not sit right with her.
Con job money 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰 police should lock them all up
You mean, being in a different country every week? Partying, friends, luxury?
Ho or dealer?
Police need to check her phone activity
@angelawainman7020 I'm convinced that Jay & Lucy planned his disappearance. The Go-fund-me has quickly raised over £30,000, but it won't be paid out. Jays criminal record is gruesome. I don't understand how he got permission to leave Britain when he had a sentence to serve (not prison, but a lot of community service). His parents should have stopped him. I wish they would accept responsibility for raising such a dangerous kid.
He partied for 3 days and nights, with Lucy, at a rave. He had loads to drink and took plenty of drugs.
Lucy claims he had only 1% phone service left. That would be used up in seconds abroad.
She kowns a lot morn
Why was a violent criminal allowed to leave the UK to go on his jollies in the first place, what kind of justice is that to his past victims?
Yawn.
Ya I agree but why do we let in violent so called refuges in by the thousands 🙈
Agree
Because a community order does not impose restrictions on foreign travel. His past victim was not exactly an angel.
Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences.
The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order.
Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age.
“You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate.
“This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty."
Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase
30th March 2023
Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19. Slater was 16 at the time of the attack in August 2021.
Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021.
The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail
The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club.
By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie
19 JUN 2024
Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person.
His court was last month I doubt he completed all that community service by then@@FontaineDerby
All the actors in this affair are pretty dodgy characters tbh. Including pushing out the £30 grand begging bowl. The whole thing is murky.
Media is the murkiest player here☹
Lucy should be suspect number one.
I agree Lucy is worried about something. She is like someone who finds a dead man and robs his wallet.
I don't believe Jay went to the mountains. No photo or CCTV of him there.
I believe he overdosed. And Lucy is trying to cover it with Michael Mosely copy cat story.
Go fund me put out when he went missing 10 hours how did they know he could have been sleeping off a hangover or a drug sleep off???
@@user-bl8zw4ol1j not true though.
Gofundme says 4 days old , he disappeared about 9 days ago
now can you stop saying he is a lost innocent who's missed by his hometown , they're safer without him
I know Oswaldtwistle quite well. A very small town, if you’re not from there you have to really watch what you’re doing and be very careful what you say to people. A few big fish in a small pond throwing their weight around in the pubs. Not a place I would like to live.
@@oddities-whatnot BS!
Shane on you. Be careful with karma and what you speak into the universe.
@@oddities-whatnotSounds like most small towns in England tbh.
OMW Had no idea!!!! 😢
At last, a news organisation mentions his violent criminal past.
Ikr
Not before taking a pop at people commenting as such
The whole family seem to be extremely dodgy IMO.
Lucy 1st time speaking was dodgie so the mother was nit distraught as most would be . Very odd behaviour although shock can do many things to ppl . Hope he turns up alive regardless
I agree 👍👍
@@peterjohnston4472 yes, except cover up lies and deceit! This is one for the The Behavioural Panel
@@peterjohnston4472Lucy not showing her face on camera is odd.
The go fund me was set up before the police got involvee
It was Lucy who called him.
This is a scam 🤬
Inspector Morse over here
@@HellooDoggy Hello Inspector Morse.
@@felina7849the same amount of expertise as you probably. But I bet you have an opinion or theory as well do you?
@@felina7849 wow someone has an opinion
Lets stop the euros for a.coward
@@HellooDoggy more like columbo lol my wife got me this tie ha ha
Thank you for finally being the ones to talk about this guy’s criminal background. It’s baffling that so many news outlets have simply ignore all this. And what is the Go Fund Me for exactly? The local authorities are carrying out the search and footing the bill…
The news outlets couldn't care less about this guy. They're just after clicks and views. The more interest people show. The more money they make. Nobody would be interested in saving a thug who takes drugs
I had no idea!!!: till today 😮 yikes
Sounds like drugs involved.
Sounds like you are on too much Facebook.
Overdosing on Facebook posts
@@HellooDoggy the irony of your comment paahaaaa
correct. limited number of reasons why an individual would leave anywhere with 2 total strangers.
He was prob high when he decided to walk home.
If he turns up unharmed or alive serous question will be asked.
Either way there's going to be a lot of questions to be asked
I live in Tenerife. Since the get go, i'm trying to figure out where and with whom he would be staying right now?
Finding anyone in those hills is like looking for a needle in a haystack. It took days to find Michael Mosely and drone and air searches missed him, having already searched that area.
Don't worry he won't
What the heck is the Gofundme money meant to be used for? To pay his drug debts?
It was set up before the police got involved
And to resupply.
@@christalmeth613reload I think you will find lol
Possibly for a repatriation, if no insurance it costs alot of money to bring a deceased person home
@@GA-fz2wt So his mum warned him to be careful before he left but forget to tell him to get insurance. Yeah right!
Im glad that at least talktv picked up on this as we the public have been talking about this for a few days now.
I think anytime a go fund me account is set up within hours of something like this is questionable. Go fund me is nothing more than a lazy social media begging format.
Yes, it is begging and yet saddo people get sucked into paying into them.
Like TikTok
I agree
Money 💵
Set up far too soon for the circumstances. His last whereabouts were in that park, he was dehydrated, hurt and lost. What reason would anyone have to think he was anywhere other than in the park and once search and rescue arrived he could be found any minute? The search still hasn't concluded and he could still be found so what's the reason for a Go Fund Me? Not allowed to search because anyone attempting it would be a liability. It's a scam. Mother says they are not using the money and yet 36k and still rolling with no sign they are going to shut it down. Dodgy as hell
How stupid to not establish his history and affiliations from the start. How can you search properly for someone without knowing what their likely behaviour and choices would be?
Life ain't a TV show hommie
@@Robert-Downey-Syndrome Yeah, I get that, but it's pretty basic police work to ask does he have any history that might explain where he would go, does he drink, would he have taken drugs, does he have any mental health problems, or a violent temper, and did he have any conflict with anyone that night etc. I mean, how do you even begin looking if you don't know what he's likely to have done?
When you go to another country you abide by their standards
@@goldeneddie I guarantee they asked all of those questions day one
I think it was more the urgency of trying to find him quickly@@goldeneddie
I think the Drug Dealers know all there is to know in Tenerife regarding Jay Slater
I believe his parents, brother & those "mates"know exactly what's going on, it's possibly the Spanish police that don't know much unless they know more than the people all involved know that they know. Just coz it's a foreign country speaking a foreign language don't mean they're stupid, esp since Tenerife is a drug haven
I do think that this incident is very Dodgy
@@Tully_23_32 The Spanish police are not very talkative. They are also not very stoopid. They know the name of the game of the south of Tenerife and they won't be saying a thing until they got SOMETHING. Doesn't matter how long it takes.
Spanish police are paid trust me corrupt country wouldn't trust any Spanish officer
@@hsk2909Gracias , si son profesionales , no viejas cotillas .
At last, the elephant in the room has been outed. May not be relevant but it has to be looked at, as have his friends and family. Why would his mother's first reaction be that he had been kidnapped? Why would anybody kidnap a druggy teenager? Too many questions haven't been answered yet.
She ( the mum) allegedly got a Snapchat saying her son owed drug cartels money,
Which is I'm guessing where the GoFundMe money is going,
@@roberthenderson77 I've heard that but where is the actual news on that message?
@@roberthenderson77 I don't believe he does owe money. That Snapchat she received was allegedly his last photo. Who had presence of mind to screenshot that before it disappeared. It only lasts seconds. Who was sent that photo.
She knows what she is saying
Aliens 👽
The 19 year old man puts a boy in hospital and then goes missing on holiday with two strange men?
When he was 17 he's now 19
So What? He shouldn't of even been allowed out the country what kind of justice is that? @@sidekick6.6.6
Secret bummer, sex game gone wrong
@@sidekick6.6.6no jay was 19 when he nearly killed a 17 yeah old lad
@@healthiswealth1452 Donkey punched💀
To be given an 18 month sentence for assaulting someone with a machete just shows a fail in the UK system! He might look like a nice lad but what he has done previously he should have been in prison. You can’t have one rule for one and another for another it don’t make sense there was no justice for the family of the boy who got attacked!
Who gives their hard earned away to complete strangers?
especially when there is a food crisis on,,,,,
Beyond me! People started sending tons of money to the family of the Gilgo beach serial killer also. Like, the day after! I'm like wtf? All before having a clue if some or more of them might have been involved? Crazy sh*t!!
I remember a bloke gave 12 million to someone
Cos they're thick.
Kind ones ❤
Strange now the media covered up for a week everyone else knew about this he should be serving 10 years in jail for what he has done
I know it sounds strange but in a major investigations the media are often used by the authorities to set a certain narrative for public consumption. We know the media LOVE to out people and their past so in this case they would have been told to say nothing until they had permission to do so.
Exactly, we've all been talking about this for the past week & the media have only now suddenly decided to wake up.
At least you are reporting it better now
People still banging on about this known criminal. Imagine how the families of decent, law abiding missing people feel about this constant coverage. If i was stupid enough to donate to their go fund me, id want to see the receipts of where that money is going.
For the re-up
Definitely....
Its getting media / 9n line interest life isnt fair its very sad.
Apparently money is still in go fund account .
@@Ray-555£35,136 as of right now. Hmmmmmmm
Apparently the funds from the gofundme are on hold. He won't turn up till the funds are released!
The money is still rolling in, why would he turn up? Free money from simpletons.
LOL
What does on hold mean?
@@Ray-555 means they can't withdraw the money
@@leen1q84 If that's the case then what is it for and will it be returned to the muppets who sent money, when they find his body.
As soon as the interviewer says 'supposedly' you know things are changing.
Indeed. The fact that the MSM are now suddenly talking about his past must mean that something has fundamentally changed behind the scenes and it is safe to start talking about his past.
Funny how everyone in the comments has been talking about it for the past week & the MSM have only just cottoned on.
Yes supposedly is double think for "definitely, there will be more information to confirm it soon"
Now the police are finally looking into his violent background, they'll probably find out who's bumped him off !
They have probably been looking into it all along. They have only just admitted it.
@@lexlayabout5757 Indeed - now his criminal background is in the public domain the police can be more forthcoming.
Or aware that he is being hidden until a reward is offered....replacing the value of drugs lost, allegedly.
Wat about the two men they had motovie he got caught pinching a watch out of the villa where they Stayed
@@paulnew8745 Rolex is slang for drugs
18 month suspended sentce for violence and class action drug dealing? 😮 that judge needs investigating.
It's because they were minors under 18 in 2021.
@@GA-fz2wt youth offenders?
@@fessali5726 yes 16/17
@@GA-fz2wt people go youth offenders for not having insurance. Driving illegally. Which leads to a ripple effect in their life. Are you actually defending a violent drug dealer?
Nope where does it say i defend anyone ? 🤔@@fessali5726
Lucys facts are inaccurate.
That's probably because they're not factual
he's in hidding its a con
Who benefits from that?
Why attempt to walk an 10/11hr walk to get back to his hotel when all he had to do was wait another 2hrs for a bus that was apparently due at 10am. It does not make sense at all no matter how you look at it.
And he doesn't know the area
If he did do the things that he's being accused of, then I hope he stays wherever he is. We don't want a machete welding drug pusher back in the UK .
BUT THERES STILL A WHALE TO BE HARPOONED..
THE PEOPLE THAT DID THIS MIGHT HAVE SLIGHTLY BETTER MORALS THAN JAY BUT NOT BY MUCH
So look at Lucy. That's the black widow spider or the Megladon.
Well it's about bloody time, social media. Been talking about it since the beginning wakey wakey.
Stop worrying about the family. The family know what he did. If facts hurt their feelings, they should buy a bloody helmet, shouldn't they? They're old enough to know what goes around comes around.
He left a house calls his friend and says I’m thirsty 🧐
Exactly. He leaves a house with a tap full of water and probably the guys staying there also had plenty to drink in the fridge. At the very least, by the time he was at that bus stop talking to Ofelia, (i know her) well she actually owns the little local supermarket just beside the bus stop. At the very latest he could have gotten something to drink from there just by asking. But he chooses to call a friend an hour and half away with 1% charge and say he's thirsty?? Yeah..sure..whatever they say.. YAAAWN! = (liars. In my opinion)
@@hsk2909😂😂😂😂so we'll said. He even went to that supermarket to get cigarettes. Ofelia runs the cafe Also as well as the supermarket and Lucy said he called at 8.15 when he'd just spoken to Ofelia a out buses so she changed the time to 8.30 until Ofelia said she passed him 20 mins later in. Her car on the road. So she changed it to 8.50.
So he just walked 1km or half a mile in 18 degrees and says he is thirsty. Yep we really believe you are...
In order to copy perversely the last moments of an eminent doctor and producer check the temperature first. And buy an umbrella for visual effect.
Funny how the mum has got hold of CCTV which the police haven't. And she's posted it so is interfering in the investigation.
I'm Friday😂
@@davidhall7648 😂😂😂🤣
I'm Sunday...no sorry... I'm Spartacus... (He was thirsty)
Someone wasn't happy with the lack of justice served by the courts , found out he was going abroad to Tenerife and followed him out there and waited for the right opportunity to get revenge 🤔🤔🤔
Why has not one mate come on the news showing their concerns 🤔
Probably all coked up still
Because they will be exposed.
@@desktopshorts7411it's definitely not because of a comments section lol
@@desktopshorts7411 Do you know how stupid that reply is 🤡
Where is the Other Guy who was with them and Lucy dont want her face shown because she will be ID as the Main dealer
His “background” is extremely relevant to his disappearance. He’s no Mosley.
No they copied Mosely and had to fabricate mountain story. No evidence he was ever in mountains. His friend wears same clothes. The shoes in the last photo are not Jays trainers.
I think he overdosed night before. Why else would Lucy leave early. Lucy is trying to make money out of situation but sounds very guilty and nervous. Listen to her voice. She over explains everything like someone whose caught out guilty of something trying to justify their behaviour and virtue signalling telling him to go back to villa.
And my how quick was she to call the police saying he's missing when he just pinged his location half a mile out of town and she had just spoken to him.
So he is missing because she would have called the ambulance if she felt he were in danger. And he isn't missing in the mountains. She is trying to copy Morsely take so needed mountains and seclusion etc.
Same story
Went for walk
Missed bus
Didn't wait for next one
Walked wrong way
Up a mountain
No phone as dead battery.
Now faded CCTV has emerged but not from police but from mother.
I'm surprised they didn't include an umbrella! Difference here is the Mosely family aren't scammers.
Other difference is Mosely spent morning on beach followed by 2.5 hour walk after feeling ill. He was 67 and reversed type 2 Diabetes. All in 40 plus degree heat.
Temp that day at 8 am was 18 degrees in Tenerife. At night it's 10 degrees. At time he called her at 8.25 he was just speaking to landlady about buses. Phone pinged half a mile away some time later when she passed him on road.
Landlady is last person to see him alive she must have picked him up if he were ever there.
@@courtneysquill8843but they got a ping from is phone near the house so he was out there
If he is into the criminal underworld and he is into violence? and class A Drugs? He could have been removed from a underworld criminal if so? His body will never be found
No it's a scam. He is most likely still alive because mum is not that upset.
If he is dead Lucy know about it as she has form.
Imagine having a dodgy background and going to an island full of criminals.
Perdona pero no es una isla llena de criminales .
@@SandraGarcia-lj3bd Crime has increased by 52% in the past three years though, so it's not looking good.
@@christalmeth613 true.
Uhhmm.. Tenerife is not full of criminals. Don't know what would give you that idea? The very southern party tip has a drug problem because it is a raving party place. For Brits. Mainly. Not many other nationalities whom dare to go out at night time there because of them. Especially not people who live in Tenerife. We are not criminals.
It was fine to publicly accuse Nicola Bulley of being an alcoholic and looking into her past, but not a convicted criminal.
Absolutely stinks.
it's mind boggling that no one asks about the two men at the air bnb, why have they not been questioned by police???
Yes they have. The same day Jay disappeared. They were cleared and flew back to the U.K the day after.
@@hsk2909 Cleared? How could the police clear them? They drove him to that rural location, and now he's missing.
Criminals bump off criminal.
End of.
Also his Dad is a massive red flag
Ahh..who is his dad? Or what's he up to? I read yesterday that the mother actually used to live in Tenerife, is that true? Do you know?
This seem like a plot with his group of friends. Look!! One of the members of these friends already started a fund raising money. Investigate more.
It was started before they startec searcing for him which is suspicious.
@@pooooornopigeonBut why ?
@@TheRoyalChatterbox-lt6pu Use critical thinking skills and you may come up with the answer. Interesting fact for you, it's alleged the girl lost a friend last year and he came back after a £15K gofundme was put together, not sure if it's true, but it's out there.
So they are actually looking for a criminal that got lost on holiday?
Waste of police time
Media are using out of date photos of Jat before his 'gangsta style' days , any photo of him taken in the last 2 years shows him as '10 men Charlie would-be gangsta'
The main picture with his Mum was taken last year. His gangsta style pictures were 2019-2021 so hopefully he's grown up..
Translate please 🙏🏼
The mother must know that her son is no angel everybody else seems to
Just think if the police are searching in the wrong area, because he never set off on that 11 hour walk. I'd have thought sniffer dogs would have been able to find him in them there hills and dales by now.
Who cares
The police do a lot of things for public consumption but in private they are working on something completely different. That is to give the impression that they are barking up the wrong tree and the crims think they have got away with it and start making silly mistakes. Police aren't daft.
@@PaulLewis-hw2jy I think we should care if someone out there is willing to kidnap and murder someone. What if they get the wrong guy as often happens?
This time of the year, he is scattered bones abd a dry stain on the ground. For real this time of the year
This time of the year he is scattered bones and a dry stain on the ground and im serious. Nothing but that stupid rapper jacket and his clothes😊
Young lad gone on holiday tried selling drugs fucked up now hes paying the price . The media are clueless 🙈
And so is the gofundme. Unbelievable.
@@PricelessJesus this is why the gofundme was made . By one of the ring leaders. Yet no reason as to what the money is needed for
@@jasonbeasley4760to fuel their drug habit. Mum wants some too
@@jasonbeasley4760 a ring leader?? WAAT omw
@@courtneysquill8843 omw!!!!! Awful 😖
This Lucy girl need to be questioned as soon as possible sounds fishy
She was about I think it was a year back when another fella went missing over there aswel
She was about I think it was a year back when another fella went missing over there aswel
Anyone with half a brain would know the most likely cause of him being missing is because of the machete attack and yet everyone wanted to ignore it and called people trolls for suggesting it might have something to do with it. All the do gooders have probably reduced any possibility of him being found alive, because of their "he is a saint" stance.
Anyone with the other half of the brain will be looking at why the need for a gofundme.
It all adds up to something.
I think you are spot on Christine
What's a go fund me do? Where the cash go? Not to him or the search, one has to question why they are cashing in
Has anyone tried calling his name using a megaphone?
😂😂😂
What 😄
I think the helicopters flying overhead, plus the numerous police, firemen, medics and volunteers in high viz clothing on the search operation might be a clue to anybody in the area - unless they reckon it's a major training exercise.
@@maconescotland8996 yeah but unless they are shouting his name he may not know they are looking for him
It's important to know Jay's background because it might help investigators understand his mindset possible whereabouts.
Owing drug dealers a lot of money never ends well. The amount of resources being spent on a thug who's hiding while the gofundme goes up is ridiculous.
Why are they looking in the mountains. He has either been kidnapped or worst. Lucy had been a drug mule in the past. It smells of drugs. Where is the £30.000 collected gone ? All very dodgy. He should have been locked up in the first place.
At last,a news outlet confronting his dodgey past
Only because the Spanish police raised the issue.
We keep getting shown video of mountains and rough terrain. However, there is absolutely ZERO proof that he is anywhere near there, either dead or alive. Yet they keep showing it!
Well, right or nor... last time he was seen by a witness it was around the area
He was never anywhere there. Why leave the road to go into a mountain?
@@gloriathompson4010 probably thought he was taking a shortcut! Zero knowledge of hiking.
@@gloriathompson4010 He was there! The witness saw him, from her car, walking away in the wrong direction.
They should ask Philip Scofield to help with his ability to sniff out teenage boys
@@Sean.Ireland Oh dear, no need for that… not funny.
Very relevant, it gives alternative motives for foul play that most tourists would not be affected by.
Just a whole week late in reporting
"They seek him here, they seek him there, those Spaniards seek him everywhere, is he no more or hiding in a hotel, only the passing of time will tell".
...is he drugged up and being well fed
Or have Lucy's mates rendered him dead...
That damn illusive sha a dow 😂
So, searchers have found a different missing brit while searching for Jay... How many are lost out there?
I think we can safely assume he is no longer alive and kicking.
His criminal background always has been in the public domain but the media have chosen not to mention it until now. They thought it would make a better story to depict him as an angel in distress. Now maybe they realise that revealing him as the dangerously violent criminal he really is, possibly executed by a rival gang, makes an even better story and gets further mileage out of the incident.
He'll be in the ocean.
How strange that there is no cctv images of the two men who he is meant to have left the disco with
The best thing about this whole thing is the CZcams comments
People watch the fake media videos?
Sounds like he's trying to fake his disappearance to escape justice. Given what he did to that boy, people should ask for their money back off the family. Freuding money out of people is a crime.
My theory is the go fund me is to raise money to buy drugs but something went wrong
Or to pay off someone
What about the poor machete victim ?
His name is Tom and he put out a post saying he wants people to stop using his name in relation to Jay's disappearance and and has wished for him to get back to his family safe
That Tom is just as bad as that Jay it's all drugs related they both been running riot where they come from
Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences.
The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order.
Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age.
“You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate.
“This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty."
Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase
30th March 2023
Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences.
The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order.
Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age.
“You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate.
“This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty."
Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase
30th March 2023
Same old news all the time ! Not getting nowhere
At this time they will hope he is kidnapped because there is no chance he has survived out in the elements all this time.
Was he ever in the elements,?
Once the Spanish police hear about his gangster background, they'll soon call off the search. Mike Graham missed out the machete attack. 🙄
Nobody with a brain goes walkabout in remote foreign terrain in that kind of heat...especially without water or even power in their phone...none of it adds up...my guess is he was high as a kite...got to be
When I really pilled up I don’t know where I am….is tru.
Why would a teenager head off on an hours drive with 2 older men in the middle of the night ..
Yet the media has no interest in finding those men.
Or telling us anything about them
Bizarre.
@@Ray-555 Those men has been questioned and tracked down
doubt that a phone can make a call at 1%
Or that he didn't go walkabout.
if he had gone to scouts, cadets or ATC, he would have been able to navigate, find shelter etc To me it seems strange the 2 friends are so far away from the man party, it would be a great stash house...
But he also been sexually abused😂
Most bizarre the media aren't interested in these 2 men..
"I'm really thirsty..." Mike Graham takes a glass of water. 2:05
Your supposed to feel sorry for this lad
A week later. Great work detectives. The world is safe.
someone from UK with a history of involvement with drugs at a pop festival in Tenerife full of young people with a propensity to take recreational drugs. What could he possibly be doing? And what would be the reaction of those in Tenerife who normally supply this market when they find a brit on their patch ?
The mother has not cried if she's so upset!
And if you watch the interviews with the mother see can't look the camera straight on, she looks everywhere but the camera. Something is not right in this case information is being kept secret by the family in my opinion.
And still begging on the go fund which is at 35k
@@bazjr86 And supposedly the the 30K is to pay for information on his whereabouts, It would be funny if he turned up after paying an amount of money, wink wink nudge nudge.
@@sprograt who knows but I find it strange the mother begging for money after being gifted free accommodation and transport by the Spanish authorities. And on the go fund me she said she is using her own money. That Lucy is a liar too.
Hopefully he turns up and gets thrown in prison for this scam.
He needs a bit of jail time if he wants to be a proper G 😂
@@bazjr86 You are so right.
I think he's come to no good end.
Will it be right to conclude that this "missing" is a cock and bull story to escape serving the preston crown court 18months sentence?
What did it involve? Maybe seeing a probation officer
He got community service, I doubt he did a bunk over that
@@rosita3528 yea, it's still a sentencing option in my experience as a lawyer. It will be on his criminal record
For someone thats missing, NONE of his mates over there on a jolly seem the least bit sad or concerned.
What is the go fund me for. They probably haven’t had anything like this amount of money. If he had spent a couple of quit on insurance they wouldn’t need it.
Not only should his background be investigated, but also that of the last people who spoke to him. How credible are they a witness that they're being honest about what actually happened.
I love the way anyone questioning the narrative is a conspiracy theorist. This is like a gullibillity test to see if we healed after C-19 or everyone just blindly follows what they're told.
He's dead, mate. Nobody steals money from cartels during a drug run in a foreign country and gets to leave alive. Lord knows what the sicarios did to this guy before killing him
So true no coming back even if they paid the debt. Its getting boring now
Maybe they used a machete.
And what about evidences? Where did he steal money "from cartels"?
"Allegedly" Ryan Cooney from Ireland was a mate of Lucy's. He went missing last year in Tenerife from Playa de las Americas for 4/5 days. Lucy had similarly set up a Go Fund Me then too. When it hit £15k, Ryan miraculously turned up safe. Ryan said he was robbed of all his money, phone, belongings & had two black eyes. Why he didn't go back to the hotel & explain to his mates what happened, is because apparently he was put into a car & taken somewhere.
Another odd coincidence that I've heard, which may or may not be true: Lucy is allegedly an ex of the guy that Jay & his mates attacked with a machete.
@@leen1q84stop it 🤦♀️
@@kaz1780 stop what exactly?
The first story was that Jay's mum was giving Karen Matthews vibes because of her interview, and now they are related lol
@@rosita3528 the funniest one I read was Jay's mum could even BE Karen Matthews in disguise 😂
Mummy and Daddy hardly give confidence that its not all a con !
Daddy is A Angry Head cannot talk without storming off
Could that be a sign of guilt daddy walking off
Well if he hadn't been given a 18month out card instead of prison we would know where he was at in prison
Finally, media are covering his background that most of social media are talking about. Bravo Mike Graham 👏🏾
If his background and the pic they think is him has anything to do with it, then he's messed with some naughty people lucy knows this as they are her bosses and they don't mess when it comes to drugs. She's told him you either dissappear or be killed let this all blow over till we can pay the debt back an make out he's missing in the meantime.
Sounds like a plan. I like it!
@@CelticSaint two 19 year olds come up with a plan to blag a nation not realising the full scale of the outcome. Its better than death I suppose but they should of thought it through first. Lucy's whole story don't make sense 1% battery with mobile data/roaming active. You manage to make a call do a screenshot send that screenshot as a message all on 1% are mobile phones that good now i wouldn't be able to do 1 of those actions without it dying especiallywith mobile data on no wifi in the mountains for him. Why wait till 1% to contact someone again makes no sense. They deserve jail time if it isn't a terrible accident
@@CelticSaintFlashheart?
This is costing Spanish police and other services a lot of persons time and effort if it is dodgy the family should be made to pay the Spanish the money back
😂
Drugs,
Looks like Lucy & Jay were serving up at the festival
She knows what this is about
What’s the £30,000 for?
Everything has been provided free of charge to the family
It's already £35,000. Let's hope they reach £50,000 so they can stay expand their business :)
All those cocktails won't pay for themselves.
If he bought ciggies he could have got some water….
Thought it said somewhere he had no money, so when and where and how did he buy those cigarettes? But no water although he was thirsty after just leaving a house where there was water
He was only reported to have left the Airbnb for cigarettes, but the mystery men.
So not exactly a fact.
Investigations to be done: 1) lucy in all aspects,2) he looks like hes running in recent cctv,3) ALL calls and numbers pinged off of that mast in those hours,4)who was the guy in the pic with sunglasses on? Supposed to be Slater? Looks nothing like him! 5) Pics of mum and dad 'grieving' -traces of smirks ,no emotions.6)If he went to mountains after being told it was a two hour wait for bus,was he trying to hide from someone who would have seen him waiting? Plenty of other supposition as well ?
Ive only just found out about his recent background after seeing a curious comment on Lancashire Evening Telegraph. Had a quick search and found a deeply unpleasant story. Not something the media would have mentioned when he went missing as opinions towards him and the circumstances would have changed dramatically, and wonder why that is ? After being missing for 24 hours, surely the police should have looked into his background. Paints a completely different picture now. Something not right about all of this. None of it adds up.
Problem, reaction, solution.
This is all so amateurish: He owed money so he take a holiday,goes missing , and collects thousands from a fundraiser- yeah right!
I reckon it's standard procedure with all police organisations to look into a missing person's background as part of their investigation.
There seems to be a mindset in some quarters that the Guardia Civil are not competent to mount a search operation etc. - despite them being a professional force working in their own territory using local knowledge, aided by Firemen, Medics and volunteers etc.
A bit insulting really.
So us conspiracy theorist armchair sleuths were days in front as usual.