Squier Classic Vibe 70's Jazz Bass - Seventies Style over Substance - LowEndLobster Review
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Hey Everyone! Today we're reviewing the four string model of the Squier Classic Vibe 70's Jazz Bass. We reviewed the 5 string model about 3 years ago, and though it had some positive traits I felt it was a bit average when it came to construction and build quality. However the Budget Jazz Bass landscape has shifted significantly over the last few years. Does this Squier have what it takes to stay relevant in 2023? Let's find out!
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I’ve owned this bass for almost a year now. It came with some slight fret sprout, so I gave it to my luthier who turned this sub £500 bass into a masterpiece! Not only does it play really smoothly, I also love how it looks! The glossy neck complemented by the block inlays gives it such a classic, unbeatable look!
Glad you got a bass you connect with. What did your luthier do? Was it just a helluva setup or did you end up swapping out any of the actual bits?
Wow such beautiful smooth mid lows for those tones! I’m impressed!
Been watching your channel for a while and was recently thought it would be nice to have you review this bass and boom! This video magically came up on my feed 🎉
Always appreciate your honesty.
I'm generally not a fan of gloss necks but I like this one with the gloss maple fretboard. I also prefer 60s spacing to 70s. Great review!
Great vid as always. I would love to see you review some more Schecter basses, like the J-4 or the Stiletto Studio line.
I had one of the earlier models with the Duncan Design pickups and I added an on board Sadowsky pre, and it was killer. I had to add a Jack plate to the lower part of the body, but I gigged it for years succesfully. This bass would likely be great with some mods. Those Duncan Designs can be found cheap on the used market and make a great upgrade.
That was one of the Vintage Modified series. Those were better instruments all round.
I am not sure that the VM series was better as a whole. For the Indonesian-made ones, I would guess that they were made at the same factories than the CV series. Major components don't look that different to me. Why should the open gear tuners and bridges be very different - it is always the same stuff since long years now.... At my dealer, there is since several years now hanging a VM Jazz Fretless (it does not have the DD pickups, so imho it is post-2015 ? ). It still has not found a buyer. I also checked it out several times, wondering if I should get it or not. I cannot find major differences with my CV Jag regarding build quality. The Jag has a one-piece natto body compared to the 3-piece agathis one of the VM. Honestly I prefer the Jag's body, the natto being harder (it should stay beautiful for a longer time). Also, P. Balmer had reviewed the VM Fretless Jazz (the DD pick-up version) in one of his books and mentioned some (small) issues. Really, I can't see any big differences here.
I bought 40th Anniversary Precision Bass. It looks and sounds great🤘👍🏻
Agreed… I got both the P and J 40th Anniversary (Vintage Edition), and I think they're really excellent, especially since I got them at a steep closeout discount from Sweetwater!
I played this today and I was blown away. I picked up a Mexican Jazz Bass as well as an Aerodyne and a Sire and it wasn't as good. I just kept thinking that I could change the electronics on the Squire and be super happy.
Hello, as my main fretted bass, I use since roughly two years now a "CV Jag" bass in the sunburst version. I got it modded by a luthier right after purchase (being no fan of concentric controls and heavy standard tuners), but the "bones" of these bass are excellent! No issue with neck stability and overall fit & finish. Sound and playability of this 32"-scale bass are just great. For me, it sounds like an electric bass should do: not too dark and "oomphy" (like some vintage short scale basses), but not too "piano-like", either (Why should I want to have a bass sounding like a piano - as pianos are made right for that ?). It has a moderate weight, very comfy. I first tested one "Jag" in the black version, then purchased and got modded my current sunburst model and, finally, checked out a further sunburst model for a possible modding into a fretless (but finally, I decided rather to get defretted a 24-fret bass - to have a greater range for slides): I really did not see any major QC issues on these three Jags. Only the "stacked knob"-arrangement may need some fixing right after the unboxing (it did not come as a surprise to me, as I had watched all reviews being available at that time). So here is my conclusion: there are good instruments in the CV series !
Hey lobster,,,i have the early natural one with maple body & duncan pup's & it plays and sounds great,,had it set up with boomer strings & STILL SOUNDS GREAT,,,thank you for all the great videos 🎸🤠
Hi lobster great video. That bridge pickup is pretty cool. Have you tried the markbass range of basses, can you get them over the pond? Would be great to see your take on them as there are not a lot of reviews available. The budget range would be in direct competition to sires etc.
I picked up one of these in a natural finish in '19. After a bit of tinkering (BAIII bridge, Duncan QPs, neck finish sanding) it looks, plays, and sounds great. Not really had any neck wandering, but I know quality on these Squires can vary wildly from year to year, instrument to instrument. Guess I got lucky with mine.
How did you find the QPs improved things?
@@iamgribs I've just always enjoyed the sound of them and they've been my go-to for pickup upgrades, but I also play punk/pop-punk, so I prefer that big, punchy, and thick sound from them.
Hello Lobster and congrats on 40k! Is there a chance you will review any of the Yamaha Trbx basses in the future? I've read many times how they are really good for their price and how TRBX174 is a good mod platform. I would love to hear your thoughts about it.
I’m lefty so my options are severely limited. This being one of squier’s lefty offerings. I currently have a standard squier p/j bass? Looking for a good quality jazz bass to compliment it. I’ve looked at sire as well and this review confirms my assumption of sire being the better value. For us lefty’s the sires also come in more colors, an added bonus. Highly considering a sire v5. Thanks as always for the reviews 😎
the pain of being a lefty, i know that all too well... see my comment, i dont know why Lobster's bass was so crappy, i dont have and issues with mine and i had got it for 150 used, had to replace the string nut as the previous owner used it as a righty... but after i changed the pups and added active electronics, it sounds like a different beast.
Thanks for the wonderful review, Lobster! Imho this bass has a lot of *growl* for a 70s Jazz. Is there any information about the exact pickup postions?
The Vintage Modified Series was the best budget line models Squier ever made. Those early Duncan Design pickups sounded very good.
You can't even find those pickups now.
My first Squier was a Vintage Modified 5 String Jazz in natural. Sounded amazing!
That was back in 2011 ..... but yeah, totally agree on those early DD pickups!
....for some reason,...YT is censoring my comment....you might find a used pair on eBay from time to time. Maybe on Reverb,.....sometimes, I'll buy a used V.M. just for those pickups. I own two of those V.M. models and actually converted one into what Squier calls the Classic Vibe now before the Classic Vibe ever existed.
Have you compared it to 40th anniversary series?
just bought one...killer sound and gorgeous. love the pick ups
gratulations !
One of the best looking basses ever. With Fender tag I could be bestseller
I’ve got the natural wood one and I love it, bought it used for around $250, and another $120 for set up & fret work, down the road I’ll upgrade the electrics (pickups & better tone controls), all in all its a nice bass but I’d suggest getting one used to save some cash
I bought this bass 3 weeks ago it's a killer. I must have lucked up I have no neck problems. The tone is amazing. The pickups have raised magnets which give it a really aggressive sound. My bass is made in China not Indonesia. I'm playing through an Acoustic B100 combo. The bass is heavier than my player jazz bass though. Maybe Squier saw your review and made some adjustments. I didn't get the Sire V5 it's not in the stores in NYC. I'm not willing to buy an instrument I can't play first. Your reviews are very helpful.....Thanks
I have this but black and a lefty . I changed the pickguard to a vintage tortoise pickguard, changed the hardware to all black hardware, replaced the pickups with EMG J bass pickups(yay for emg direct b stock), and I changed out the electronics and added an EMG b64 3 band preamp that i got a great deal on reverb , i had to mod the preamp because the spacing was too close and wouldn't drop in the control plate, so i removed the pots from the board and added wires to fit the preamp on the control plate. I added a football output jack , and a battery box for the active electronics... id say mod your bass and you could be impressed, idk why your bass was so lackluster, i dont have the neck issue, I had got mine used , and the only problem was the string nut, the guy who owned it before has strung it for righty, and needless to say i had to replace the nut. after i did that and set up, this bass plays like butter...
I'm still trying to get used to Beardless Lobster, hah! Seriously though, thanks for your reviews - they helped me avoid some regretful purchases.
If you were getting a jazz bass guitar for a beginner, would you recommend this, or a Harley Benton JB-75?
I've had a Squier Vintage Modified 5-string Jazz for several years now, and was really blown away by the build quality (even though I'm not much of a 5-string player, and I really don't like the glossy neck). Then I bought a Classic Vibe 4-string Jazz and found it was definitely inferior. I didn't like the changes to the bridge, in particular, and the frets were really sharp. No matter though as I bought it strictly as a mod platform to put on a fretless neck and swap in a high-mass bridge. I also wanted to install new DiMarzio noiseless pickups, and that's when I discovered the Classic Vibe's pickup cavities are way too shallow, so I had to rout them out deeper, which I do not have the tools to do properly. It ended up being a decent mod, but I still sold it after a few years.
It *almost* feels like Fender deliberately downgraded the quality going from the Vintage Modified to the Classic Vibe, to correspond with the similar downgrade from the American Elite to the American Ultra. They didn't want people realizing Squier instruments were often better than Fender! (Of course, I've already done my own video about how I sold my American Ultra Jazz and switched to a Squier 40th Anniversary.)
I just bought a 5-string Squier VM Jazz Bass. It's a used 2017 model. The quality of that bass is on point, including the neck stability. I might replace the bridge with a HiMass one.
I have one in natural, so it's maple. And weighs about 11 lbs. Pretty stable on the truss rod, maybe I got lucky.
Agree on the pickups. I replaced mine with Dimarzio Area Js based on one of Lobster's other videos. Much improvement!
Did you get "Pastorius" sound with Dimarzio?
@Oxigentil yeah. Not how true it is, but it's decent.
@@earllundy4828 ok, thanks!!
Thanks! 😎
I have one of these as my main bass and I enjoy it, but mine is one of the Chinese made ones (I haven't experienced any of the fit and finish issues, though single coil noise is egregious) and I got it used off a guy on Craigslist for half the price. As a beginner, this has been great for me, but i am looking at something like the Schecter CV-4 for the next acquisition.
Oh man. A Chinese one at half the price is a deal. From what I can tell they’re quite a bit better.
All your squire love went to the rascal bass. I put the noiseless fender pro 2 pickups in mine. It made it a new instrument
That Rascal deserves all the love. It's sublime. I've brought it to several jams and it is so much fun and sits so nicely in the mix. Very cool on your mod!
@@LowEndLobster hey .maybe u can do a vid in the future on putting some higher end pups on the CV 70s jazz. Just a thought. I'm not a patreon member. Too poor. Lol. Maybe one day. But we're still beard buds. Even if you did shave yours. Our local music store got the rascal but a qc issue. Ofc.. Meeting Bakithi Kumalu tonight VERY EXCITED
@@LowEndLobsterThe rascal is so darn big, like its target market is long-scale players looking to dip their feet in the other end of the pool...looking forward to a review of the new sonic bronco
The way I see these basses is: they need a setup and a heavy adjustment, but once you do that and maybe fix a fret or two, the edge of the neck is great for about $350 used. And, I like the "fender designed" pickups more than passive sire pickups
Edit: the sires seem to have the better neck tho if, which may be worth swapping the pickup on
I amusingly just got one of these last week. I've really been enjoying it, but have noticed some little quality control issues, minor fret sprout and tooling marks on the fretboard edges, and the G string tuning key is bent a bit. I have really enjoyed the sound so far, though I fully intend on getting a Dimarzio Model J set and throwing Hipshot tuners and bridge on it, so there's that. I got it mostly for recording demos and goofing around on, so I'm happy either way.
Use crescent wrench on G thumb screw tuner to straighten. Be careful and go slow and gentle!!
@@grantkoeller8911 Thanks for the tip! It's still functional and mostly just looks bad. I'm probably going to get new tuners sooner rather than later, that said.
Did you put the DiMarzios in? Wondered how it worked out, as Im thinking the same
@@AllenPalmer-eh4ht I have not yet done any mods to it. I've flip-flopped a bit on the pickups, at that, been looking at Nordstrand J-Blades for it to match what I plan on putting in my 5 strings.
Man, I really wanted to get one of these, I currently own a SUB ray4 and I want to get a jazz bass, I have to sell the stingray if I want the jazz bass, I don’t want to downgrade in quality, but I still want to stay in a similar price range as the SUB ray4, any recommendations other than squier?
I don't know about the "Classic Vibe" but I've had the Vintage Modified (2007) for well over a decade and have played it against several Player models during that time that, while for sure were nice, either equaled or simply lacked the tonal diversity and wallop that this relatively inexpensive model offers. I needed to be convinced that some of the other Fender models were/weren't superior in terms of tone and playability. Maybe I got lucky with mine or maybe I'm just used to it. Still, the sustain and tone gets me pumped every time I play it. I was so impressed that I contacted Seymour Duncan to complement them on their pup design and they reported that they sent their design to the top Korean pup manufacturer who produced the "Duncan Design" version and that those pups were then sent to various bass guitar OEMs for installation. To me, the DD pups sound like a marriage of the Quarter Pounder and Apollo. If you can grab one of these for +/- $300 - 350, I think it's a steal. If mine ever went up in smoke, I'd pay even more to replace it. Totally subjective, but there's just that certain something about the wood, neck, frets, balance, tone, and playability that suits me.
“Anemic” is fair. It doesn’t have a rich low end, a clear high end, or a punchy jazz tone. It’s somewhere in between all of them, without nailing any.
So supposing I have a good Fender jazz neck that fits the CV body, would that improve it? (Overlooking pickups for now)
Needs a real nice red tort guard on it and the bridge/pickup covers, then it'd be perfect!
Do you knw if they are releasing in LEFT handed with that newer VINTAGE orange TINT?
I will get a used Squier VM 70’s jazz bass tomorrow for 250CAD. I’m glad to know the lobster approves the VM rather than the CV series
Thanks! And the body is poplar? 🤔
👍😉
Hello. Have you tried the Squier 40th Anniversary Precision Bass Maple Satin Vintage?...
Thank's 😊
The constant Sire advertisement begins to annoy at one point. We got it, you prefer them but many will get Squiers, throw some extra ££s and make these great contenders.
Yesss!
Am I the only one who doesn’t really care for the sires? Ive played them and they sound good but they just arent my thing, idk what it is about them.
I found one of these for 150 at Guitar Center. I feel that I got the greatest deal on a bass ever
This one or the Sire v5 or Sterling by Music Man S.U.B. Sting Ray 4 BK, which one do you recommend?
My question is about player series vs Sire V5r or P5r. Sire is better than Squier, but in the case of fender mex i dont know (sorry my english)
I'm confused between the 2 Classic Vibe '70s Jazz Bass reviews. So the 4-string version is underwhelming but the 5-string version is pretty good? Aren't the specs exactly the same except for the added string?
Mine is from 2020 and its a really good bass.
I don’t get it. Does fender not understand that there is competitors such as Sire and Harley Benton?
Good review as usual 🙏👍
Sire V8 5str. Soon ????!!!
Thanks and Gid Bless
V8 4 string and P8 5 string reviews among others coming in the fall :)
@@LowEndLobster Your’e the best !!
I love Sire and waiting for this !🙏👍👏
I tried one. Same thoughts. For the same money you can afford a Sire bass which is a way better option with much more versatility too.
Great content, dude. I really love your playing. I feel like I have technique and basic theory down but I just don't seem to be able to string together long lines. Do you have any recommendations on how to improve? Do you have go-to licks or are you improvising?
Thank you! What really helped me was playing with other people and not really caring too much about what I play. I improvise off of basic ideas that I've come up with as 'test riffs' during the course of the channel. Don't worry about always playing the "right thing" if that makes sense and just have fun and try new things!
Lobster, you always do great reviews. To clarify, are you saying the entire line of this bass sucks or is it you just got a bad one off the line. You have a large following and your reviews are influential. So please clarify. It seems you are partial to the Sire basses and we all have our preferences. I hope you respond because it matters.
The question : is it better than the 75 vintage JB by Harley Benton? Almost same specs for less than half price.
And not even an issue with the neck in my personal experience
Hi, can I ask you, what you think about RICKENBACKER Bass Guitar, 4003, Fireglo? Is it worth buying?
I have a 2011 Vintage Modified version of this bass and can confirm it is 1) a workhorse and 2) a boat anchor. The body is maple and weighs at least 10.5 pounds. I would like to mod it in the near future though. New tuners and bridge, Fender 74 Jazz Bass pickups, new pots and a series/parallel switch. Stock though, it is still a really solid bass.
It sounded fine to me for what it is. Its a good starter bass if you are just looking for something cheap to get you going. I don't think you are its target audience. lol
For a starter bass ppl could go elsewhere & get better quality, there should be no issues with a bass at over $400. Ppl are not stupid, they know how much effort goes into making basses with the CNC & other tech & that all solid body guitars & basses are low tech products & do not need luthiers to make them.
@@triax7006 That’s great. Thanks 👍
I would like to see you do a review of a Vintage VJ74 j-bass. I don't know the availability in the US though.
99.9 % of the times u always get what u pay for ... poplar is the go to wood for bodies ...especially for inexpensive basses .. if u start using alder like Sire then it's at leaat 100 pounds more here in Uk for a entry level Sire which will always blow any Squier away all day long ... not sure it can be done to get basses that are " keepers" below 400 $ or £ here in Uk
@@giovannibonapace4250 The wood material doesn't add that much to the cost even if it was double the price of the wood used it would not add a huge amount to a mass produced product where wood is bought in bulk. What can happen is wood that hasn't been dried out for long enough (not seasoned enough) is then used. The fallacy though is that ppl seem to think guitars & basses cost a lot to manufacture, that the woods cost a lot of money. They are mass produced products done on CNC & then finished on a production line with ppl doing a certain job. The costs apart from labour whether in the US, Japan, Indonesia, China are the same. The QC is where some extra cost is justified, but it's really the name, the advertising & mark-up due to an inherent belief that certain places make better products is why the price is so different.
Are the block inlays and neck binding painted on or real?
What causes the neck instability, in your opinion? Lame truss rod? I would think that the wood and finish would provide enough protection from changing environmental conditions, but I don't really know, either. Also, what affects the playability? Frets not finished correctly? Nut height not right?
It's usually wood that isn't "ready" yet. Overall fretwork and neck straightness as well as how low I can dial in the action (and how easily) are all factors
@@LowEndLobster Does the wood ever become 'ready'?
@@samuelbrainsample All woods will eventually dry to a climate & as long as they are not taken to a sauna (lol) should be stable once they have reached that typical drying out period. That is why the roasted maple necks are a thing now, it just gives ppl that extra confidence especially in the less costly ones. The neck is really only the thing that should concern ppl as the body is just there to mount pickups, so any that say "roasted body" are not really necessary, however at least you should be confident a no future paint or lacquer problems or any problems in the neck heel on bolt-on's (isn't really a problem as only cracks in the paint or lacquer is what can go wrong).
are player series mustang basses any good? also, i have a P bass, do i really need a J bass?
I love my Mustang. A bit neck heavy but a joy to play.
If you own a P bass , you do not need a Jazz Bass.
@@grantkoeller8911 Or just stick a Jazz pickup near the bridge if you don't mind changing the look & "vibe" of the bass. i suppose ppl buying a P bass are happy with the tone though as it is the sound used more than any other. But the extra pickup in the PJ style gives far more options.
@@triax7006 correct, and my P bass has an additional jazz pick up and jazz neck.
This this guy is trying hard not to like this bass . Sound good to me and seems versatile.
It doesn't take that much effort not to like this bass lol
Then you haven’t listened to many basses in your life. It sounds thin
I'm a big fan of my CV 60s P, but I agree that the QC on the CV line is pretty bad. The only way to get a good one is to play it before you buy it, but when you find one that comes together right they crush everything in the price range.
I had the P bass. No neck trouble.
Great review, as always! Just one correction: the classic vibe line did not exactly replace the vintage modified line. They existed simultaneously from about 2008 until 2019 - the VM basses were made in Indonesia and were slightly cheaper, and the CV ones were made in China and were the most expensive Squiers. It was these Chinese CV Squiers that were hailed as amazing basses (though the VM line was also considered great value). In 2019, the two lines were basically merged into the current classic vibe line and their production moved from China to Indonesia, which is when the drop in quality happened.
Thank you for that info!
Then I lucked out, I have a 2019 CV70's from the Indonesian Cort factory. I call him Boris, he's great.
@@ewetooSame here. Have an Indonesian-made 2017-built 70s CV and it’s outstanding (to me, at least. Then again, I’ve never owned or played a Sire, Fender American or any “higher end” instrument than the one I have now so I have no frame of reference for comparison).
I feel that (for some reviewers) once you have experience with lots of other instruments - especially higher ends ones - a level of perspective is lost regarding the manufacturer’s value proposition (relative to it’s audience or other products in its offering)
@@wftyler9680 I have a Sire V5 and the workmanship is incredible. Proper cavity shielding paint in the pickup cavities with a grounded wire in each pickup cavity going to a star ground in the main cavity to the main ground on the jack. That's better than was on the 70s CV. The pickups are pretty good too.
I once owned a MIM. My luthier had to put a little piece of wood inside the neck pocket 'cause the neck was leaning ahead. Back then CV were considered superior to MIM, I hope this isn't so today 'cause if that is a CV I wonder how Fender could put its logo on even worse ones.
Who're you and where is Lobster?! :) Nooo, I like that beard so much!
Im surprised you had a Squier with a "wondering neck". Myself Ive had quite a few Squier basses over the years (both V.M. ,,,,,,Chinese C.V. and Indo C.V. ) always had stable necks and pretty good Alnico pickups) Maybe I got lucky
Agree but still its good looking bass real.good.i want to see you in action with carl tompson active fretless 6 strings
Another indirect ad for the V5 😂
...havent watched ya in like 5 months .. and now your a baby face lobster?! omfg! lol
I agree. Why buy this when you can get a Sire or a G&L tribute?
Or a 95-05 MIM used?
Great video Lobster!
70s jazz basses look cooler then 60s jazz basses
still waiting for some yamaha BB review or revisit 😁
Oh it's coming! I'm going away for a month but it'll drop in the fall :)
Is that a 2018 Squier ?
No, the B roll is just pictures from Fender and Guitar Center's site as I forgot to film it LOL. Dont' go by the serial on the pics
If you buy one check for soldering problems, take your time because my had a ground or maybe cap problem that took out the high end which determines if you can accentuate a "rimshot" plug while using normal finger technique(no slap) "bumm CAP dooodooo doo BAP" if it doesnt have that its the same problem, once you unlock it its Un Believable.
squire vs sr300???
Question! Didn’t you review the five string version of this and really enjoy it?
How come this one is worse. Isn’t it just the 4 string version of the same bass?
That's a great question! Yes, I looked at the 5'er early on in the channel and had a better experience (though I didn't 'really enjoy it', I think I gave it 3/5 vs 2/5 here). I review the examples that I buy/am sent, and Squier indonesian QC is all over the place. This 4 stringer was a lot more finicky than the 5'er was.
@@LowEndLobster oh! I gotcha! I actually watched that V review again to refresh my memory; Seems like the only thing impressive about that model were the pickups/electronics. I was quick to trade for a 4 string version thinking the pickup quality would be the same. I like the sound of my bass enough (I’m a guitar player so I don’t have a lot of bass snobbery). But I don’t think it sounds as good as that V you reviewed. Thanks for all the info
A bass, (any bass) will require set up (truss rod, string height and intonation) very often to account for seasonal summer changes in heat and humidity. (winter cold in 4 season locations up north.) Every summer I have to tighten truss rod and every winter, loosen it. The neck actually moves because of the heat and humidity changes.
I had one of the Classic Vibe Jaguars for a while, and Lobster is right. the neck was just not very stable. They felt less substantial and thinner than the older Vintage Modified series.
@@guitarguts5530 It uses a jazz neck, which is thinner in width and thickness than a traditional P bass neck
@@grantkoeller8911 I'm an amateur setup guy, but I've had the chance to learn from really good luthiers and they say basses always move around with the seasons. Even the really good quarter sawn, roasted mapld necks will have a noticeable shift. You'd need to have a completely carbon or aluminum neck for zero deviation
@@ileutur6863 correct
And yet he said he kept it at a constant temp & humidity. It's because the wood of the neck is losing moisture & obviously wasn't seasoned enough & is still drying out. I have no doubt it would eventually be stable but whether there would be fret sprout & a major warp in the neck is debatable.
I like the Classic Vibe `60`s P-Bass better. Easier to play and balanced better. They do work ok though.
Not a bad sounding bass
Was thinking of getting this but I got a Sire V5 instead.
Sire gives such INSANE value for the money. Like I can't justify getting a US made Fender after playing Sire instruments. They are simply top notch.
The only thing that sucks is the amount of aftermarket parts that are direct fitment for Sire. Like you can't replace the bridge directly without making new holes. Other than that, the difference between Sire & Squier is just too large.
I own 2 v7 1 v10 and a fretless v7 ... now the quality is insane ... they really put a lot of mexican n american Fenders to shame ahaha... the quality is outstanding ... my sound is Sire period.. i got a de luxe natural jazz bass with a East preamp and it's special ... I cannot stress enough how great Sire are for gig ready n1 or back ups no matter what your level is ... they are always keepers ... that cannot be said with squires /mexican fenders ...even american made ones ...
Sire nailed it because it's all done in house ... that 's how they keep the cost down ... u don't need a v10 ( they start to go over a 1000 pounds here in UK )
I realised i always need the active option ...that's why i never tried a v5 ...
Always out of stock from Andertons btw
@@giovannibonapace4250 They truly are amazing! I had a V10 but I sold it. I did not like the body shape for some reasons. The curve where you lay your right arm did not have a proper angle for me.
The Sire V5 is truly my workhorse now. I'll probably get a V7 eventually just to get an active pre amp.
I am completely sold to Sire, no doubt.
Those Sire basses feel so great. I used to have a V5, the roasted maple neck is phenomenal.
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Hey Lobster, feel you on this. It needs so little to be awesome, it's still good buy, or maybe I was lucky both times I bought it as I had no problems.
I had one of these few years ago, and regretted selling it and recently got another one same as this one, but this time it's meant for project. I was thinking between Vintera and this and decided that I'd go project route as I'd spend less and have superior instrument. However I have mine for few months now, and just had to set truss rod once, it never shifted, however I have different issues and non of them are QC, everything came pretty much perfect. Issue I have is electronics, they are overly bright through amp.
But anyway, project-wise. I'm having new neck done also 70s style just with rosewood, bullet and mother of pearl inlays. Ordered Hipshot Ultralites & bridge, Pure Vintage 74 pups and electronics, should be awesome once it's assembled. So pretty much bought it just because of body and pup spacing, everything is getting scraped.
I think u picked a dodgy one ... i owned the exactly the same one and part exed it for a mexican Geddy lee jazz ... then i sold it and got a de luxe jazz bass with east preamp second hand ... the mexican had a poorly fitted skank stripe ... the classic vibe one was fitted impeccably ...
Now u always get what u pay for apart fron Sire gear ... the pick ups on the classic vibe were weak and the maple neck was a low grade wood ... i agree it's all about looks with certain Squier instrument and it comes down to how inspired the workers are on the line on that particular shift... yours is a friday evening one
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I'm astounded about the quality u get with Sire ... i own few ... basses n guitars ... all very qc consistent and even when there are issues they are always keepers ( in my humble experience ).
Miss your beard ahaha
First thing I would do on this bass is to change pickups.
Can confirm my VM 70s Jazz (V) weighs more then my car
I actually thought it sounded fine but I cant stand neck issues...
i considered this bass for a time tbh, but eventually found no reason to get this over literally any Sire one. That being said that damn Fender head stock does something for me. I'm a sucker for looks, what can i say...But regarding substance... , in that 400 to 600 budget Sire i feel is the king, Ibanez and sterling very close. The quality of Squire and Harley Benton feels too inconsistent to me
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The 70s Squiers are the best looking budget line to me. Shame about the unstable necks and poplar bodies.
Poplar is crap not because of the tone, which doesn't influence electric instruments in the slightest, its just a very very soft wood and you'll have problems with screw holes stripping out
Poplar is not a bad wood for bodies and I much prefer it over basswood. Its harder than basswood (janka rating of 540) and holds screws way better than basswood (janka rating of 410). Alder is minimally harder at 590 on the janka scale.
Considering that the Ernie Ball Musicman Bongo is in the $2900 and up range and made from softer basswood, poplar ain't bad.
Minus the neck issue I think you may have gotten a bad one I'd buy it since I would end up gutting it and starting over just because that's what I do and aftermarket parts for Squiers/Fenders with little to no modifications are plentiful unlike Sire
Where r u lobster? Havent seen new vids in a while.
Taking a bit of a break to focus on other stuff. Don't worry, I'm doing great!
@@LowEndLobster whew! Thought something might have happened. Glad your alive and well !
Squire is simply not a match to the Sire offerings. Even if you have to spend a few bucks more; WORTH IT!
dude, this thing is a Beast nothing tops the looks of that Model.
Is there any reason at the moment to go for a Fender? Lack of quality and overpriced in the MIA and MIJ area only true Fender fan will stick to these instruments. There are a lot of interesting alternatives in the market such as Harley Benton, Sire, Lakland and Sandberg if you don’t need the Fender logo on the headstock.
Interesting, I guess it’s the reliability of quality that’s in question, not that they are all good or bad. I bought a 2nd hand 2019 Squire identical to the one in the video. I love it so much I recorded a tune called ‘Hey I got a new bass!’
Quality is fine, not noticeably different to my US standard strat, just needed a bit of simple setup 😊
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Excellent review my friend! I think the Squier brand is very overrated. Most of their basses have very low quality components (generic bridge and tuning pegs of very poor quality, generic pickups, poor electronics, basswood body, etc.) and the only thing that stands out is that they look good. Also, for what little they offer, they are too expensive. In my country, Chile, this bass costs around 700 dollars, a brutality for the little it offers. I consider that , there are brands that are not so famous, and these brands offer cheap or medium price instruments, but their components are excellent, which translates into reliable instruments and much better than a Squier bass. Brands like Harley Benton, Sire, Cort and many others have pleasantly surprised me. I hope you can do a review of the G&L L-2000 tribute bass (made in Indonesia).😁
Lobster what happened to the beard
Remember the tone is the players fingers and touch.
I think theyre overated because the affinity jazz bass is half the price pretty much
but this bass is not twice as good. Its definitely a step up but maybe a 50 bucks step up imo.😂
I have thought the same thing for years. The Classic Vibe series was a big step DOWN in quality from the Vintage Modified series. The hardware and controls feel cheaper, the necks feel less substantial and unstable, the pickups are generic and sterile sounding compared to the Duncan Designed pickups that came in the Vintage Modified. The Classic Vibe Jaguar is not even a full scale bass any more. It is 32".
It's a personal thing, but I don't like the thick finish on the back of the CV necks either. Add to that the fact that the prices have DOUBLED while the quality went down, and I don't think the Classic Vibes are worth the money any more. You can pay less than half that and get a Harley Benton or SX and the quality will be about the same.
Seems Fender need to get these made in the same factory as other companies as the Indonesian ones usually are very good. Maybe Fender want ppl to have a somewhat negative impression of these so they move up to MIM, MIJ or save up for MIUS. Bit of stretch though as the Squire name isn't that prized over companies building their reputation with higher quality than even the MIM guitars & basses.
Hi, imho a Jag does not need to be 34" scale to sound good. In all CV Jag review vids which I listened and watched (multiple times...) before deciding to go for it (and its modding), I found it really great sounding. The Pawn Shop Reversed Jag was also a 32" and sounded great. Unfortunately, at the time it was on the market, purchasing a new bass was not one of my priorities....I'd wish F. would bring out something like this again, better non-reversed (but ok, I do not dig alder bodies. They are too soft, may be for that reason, too, I did not get one). And, last but not least, there is the Affinity Jag, also a 32" scale bass, which got lots of attention. Unfortunately, it has a poplar body (this wood is also too soft for me) and I would prefer the bucker being installed closer to the bridge. Having studied the question of scale length intensively in the past (including some trials with 31" necks), I am now convinced that 32" scale deserves much more attention. Not sure that kind of a "contemporary Leo" would decide to go (again) for a 34" scale having modern strings, pickups etc. as well as modern manufacturing technologies available! The 32" scale just works very well for bass.
I love the price!!! Best value and best bass for the money!!!!
The price has doubled and the quality has gone down in the last few years. Find one of the older Vintage Modifieds used and play it. You'll see.
Many professional players and gearheads rate this bass as a perfect 70's . I'm confused crustaceans. We all want to know why. It is a matter of taste, hate, love or blind love?
Is the "corporate" look here to stay?
Nice bass but just let me keep my HB JB75SB ;)
Hail Harley Benton!