INS Vikrant Big Mistake - No Space for Fighters ?
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Naval Tejas enters the chat 😂
Navy don't allow single engine deck base fighters, so Tejas don't have any scope on aircraft carrier
@John Hero brother fa 18 super hornet also not fit in ins vikrant because there wingspan is little more than lift after folding it takes much to change
@@shubhveerkushwaha367 Toh kya Vikrant khali rahega . Aap log bol toh aise rahe ho jaise ki koi aircraft aa hi nahi paega 🤔. Have some patience
Can we land Mi-26 or Mi-17 helicopter on IAC Vikrant ?
@@ankuryadav7030 brother i have said that f18 is little bigger than lift , it fit tight but aaa nahi sakta ye to nahi kaha or waise bhi abhi ins vikrant fleet me induct thodi hua he kya pata thoda or wrk kr ke hum iski lift badi kr skte he or isme to abhi 2 rapid gun and ak 304 bhi lagegi isliye dont worry be happy
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2 Squadron of Naval Tejas must be ordered for time being.
No , it's not compatible
Because of weight
No Tejas for navy never
@@siddharthkaitepalli5798 it's not the weight, it'd bcoz of single engine.
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Lol , it's not about single engine
you need to know lot of things about weight in STOBAR type aircraft carrier
@@siddharthkaitepalli5798 Can you please tell me in detail 🤔
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Carrier r not designed for particular aircrafts it is designed for all this is wastage of tax payers money
@@ashishgoswami4304 sir it is correct that no carrier is designed for a perticular (singal) aircraft but it is also true that no carrier is designed for all the aircraft.
@@abhinav-Om sir yes but a carrier class is designed as per some aircrafts Categories landed to it and a carrier carries basically some generation or modes of aircrafts as per specifications like single engine double engine and many more but not on Rafale or mig Tejas as to cost
And sir naval version is different from airvrrsion aircrafts so why Rafale is here not getting as at that time more better naval versions are their Like F15 eagle montario sea hawk etc
Since when youtubers started designing aircraft carriers ? So are u saying the naval architects of Indian Navy designed a carrier which cannot accommodate airplanes? Can't believe that people can be in such a position that they will say anything to get viewership now a days, even if its a dishonor for the country.
Bhai video toh prua dekhle. Mei bhi isko gaali hi dene aaya tha, but uska point alag hai. Video is ok, caption though... That needs some work!!!
Looking towards the size of AC, it is clear that Navy have plans for Tejas Naval.
No bro , it's not compatible
they already said that single engine aircraft nhi chalega
@@xyz-iz2kf F35: am I joke to you ??
@@noname-sk3hl why navy required twin engine fighter jet?
@@rohitnrg they are more reliable as if unfortunately a engine goes wrong than other engine can provide the thrust. Also in oceans and seas you cannot risk the life of pilot.
Based on lift best option would be to get 18 UPG Mig29 from Russia & remaining 3 UPG Mig29 for IAF of the 21 MiG-29 pending order by GOI/Defence council. For the third IAC we can go with TEDBF & RAFALE F4 M / AMCA Naval Varriant (If ready)
IAF Mig 29 s cant be used in carriers , Mig29k is a specialised carrier borne variant which has strengthened undercarriage and overall airframe to handle the stress that occurs in arrested landing.
Mig 29 UPG is an airforce jet lol.
You have to use Mig29K and Rafale M. 😂😂
Mig 29 upg and Mig 29k not the same. We can't use IAF migs in carrier.
@Vachan:
Delivery of the final lot of MiG-29K aircraft was completed in 2016.
In its 2016 report, CAG - the national auditor criticised the aircraft for defects in its engine, airframe and fly-by-wire system.
The operational availability of the MiG-29K, according to CAG, has ranged from 15.93% to 37.63% and that of MiG-29KUB from 21.30% to 47.14%.
So, the Navy is not interested in more MiG-29Ks. Period. Opting for a squadron of Tejas N-LCAs might be a far better and hassle free option.
@@le_ecrivaine Also Mig29K doesn't perform as per it's size.
That means mig 29 is only option .others are not ready now
@Third EYe:
Delivery of the final lot of MiG-29K aircraft was completed in 2016.
In its 2016 report, CAG - the national auditor criticised the aircraft for defects in its engine, airframe and fly-by-wire system.
The operational availability of the MiG-29K, according to CAG, has ranged from 15.93% to 37.63% and that of MiG-29KUB from 21.30% to 47.14%.
So, the Navy is not interested in more MiG-29Ks. Period. Opting for a squadron of Tejas N-LCAs might be a far better and hassle free option.
IN is going to purchase 1 squadron of twin seater Naval Tejas, will operate the same till tedbf starts rolling out in big no.
Once tedbf starts giving service in IN, Naval Tejas will be used as trainer aircraft for coming decades.
@World Technology:
Let HAL complete orders of LCA Mk-1 first. It's been well over a decade since they've been at it.
LCA's maiden flight successfully completed by Technology Demonstrator TD-1 on January 4, 2001. The first Limited Series Production LCA (LSP-1) made its first flight in April 2007.
The LCA completed 1000 flights on 22 January 2009.
It was on 15 December 2009 that the government sanctioned ₹ 80 billion to begin production of the fighter jet for the Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.
@Manish Singh:
China got to 5th-generation combat aircraft without going through all the 'steps'. How would you explain that???
Dhirubhai Ambani set up a refinery with an installed capacity of 668,000 barrels per day (106,200 m³/d) - currently the largest refinery in the world. He didn't start small and go through all the steps, “taking time to build expertise” in petroleum refining. So, yours is a fallacious argument.
HAL has got used to lackadaisical style of working. It is for the govt. to crack the whip and not accept flimsy excuses for slippages in production schedule. 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆.
I think it's a good step because in future you need 5th or 6th gen fighter aircraft and to achieve this you need small aircraft with perfect technology.
Most of the countries new aircraft are small in total size.
Rafael m be like :- Tata , bye bye , goodbye , khatam !!
Indian navy Is the best planner when compared to Airforce and Army.
Since the size of lift is reduced even our corrupt politicians can't force us to buy Rafale-M or Super hornet.
Mig 29k and N-LCA and TEDBF can fit.
Chances are like we will get more mig 29k as all know it will retire in 15 years and TEDBF will be ready. Or NLCA, as we can have more units of them, with better missiles it will be the best fighter because it has more service % and pilot friendly, Tejas already a good fighter and missiles are more important than fighter ( we bought rafale for their missiles ). Indian navy the pro indigenious loving.
आईएनएस विक्रांत तो तैयार हो गया अब विक्रांत के लिए TEDBF जेट्स की सख्त जरूरत है
Seems that the lift has been designed for mig-29k, lca navy & tedbf
Yes, otherwise you have to make change to aircrafts
@@symonthelappillil5972 the aircrafts don't need any change but if the navy wants super hornet or rafale then refits have to be made in the hydraulic lifts, however, fa-18 c/d hornet can fit perfectly 👍
I am not sure about Navy making structural changes, if you follow their correspondence with Hal on accommodating naval alh. The height of mig 29k is 4.4m. As fa18 super hornet's height is 4.8m, so a tail fold or swell should do the trick
This is no issue whether aircraft would fit or not. Navy is prudent enough to select a fighter that would fit. Whatever these experts are noticing navy must have thought 15 years ago. Only then the design would have been chosen.
Then why did they wait until the aircraft was done?If they only consider mig 29k the airwing would have been ordered or done long ago
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@@agentnoobz5588 Hi friend i am talking about the design of aircraft carrier. As per the requirement, Only Mig 29k and FA 18 would fit. As i was talking about Navy not government or Bureaucrats that have power of finalizing deal and sanctioning money. Mig 29k would not be a good fit as this aircraft carrier would be in service until 2055 to 2060 by historical trend of indian deployment. FA18 would be a must go or TEDBF. There might be thousands of things that have to be taken into consideration even if we talk about government or even the purchases being done by a private company. I know the purchase is sluggish in nature which i am also disappointed with. Still I believe government has no other option now to delay the purchase as aircraft carrier has cost associated with it when completed and operationalize and government would be forced to purchase the aircrafts for it in next year or so. They can not simply sail the ship for years and years without having airfleet. Hope this would be a satisfying answer for you.
Rafale was specifically built for Navy, how they can miss folding wing design?
A mistake? A blunder? A calculated risk? Or lack of vision (Export order in future)
Haha. Now anyone with Internet connection can become a Naval Engineer with high experience in Building Aircraft carriers !
@@ruidixin3460 So, either you are a Naval Engineer or You don't have internet connection 😎😀😂😂😜
Although RafaleM was specifically designed for navy use they were always designed to have extensive commonality with Airforce variants with minimal changes to keep the cost down. Moreover they were never certified for STOBAR skijump carriers and were always designed to operate off CATOBAR flat top carriers. So the fixed wing aspect is an intentional feature.
@Sarthak Suman logically point u have raised for F18
@Sarthak Suman which means they didn't planed for Future / export lack of vision,
I don't agree with our scientists are clueless
Naval Tejas was just the technology demonstrater . Not fit for carrier operation 👍
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@shubham sonawane:
What was the N-LCA (naval Tejas) demonstrating?? That it was not fit for carrier operation?? 🤔😳
Landing on the INS Vikramaditya and taking off, proved that it had the potential for carrier operations.
@@le_ecrivaine NAVAL AIRCRAFTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM AIRFORCE AIRCRAFT . THIER BASE ARE MUCH DIFFERENT . LANDING AND TAKEOFF ARE DEMONSTRATED
The one who designed this lift
One who order for its procurement
And the navy guy who analyzed the project required and gave it a go ,
An enquiry should be set up against all these individual
cause i smell heavy corruption and lobbying for mig29/ 29upg jets
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0:50 according to defence decode , it is slightly less than 9 meters
Hmm controversial facts
@@sparkly3989 its just assumption not fact :)
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Mig 29K is the only option. This is the fist attempt by India to build AC so there is going to be some teething problems.
I am from the Navy, what a heading
No space for the aircraft. You don’t have any idea of an aircraft carrier.
Why do you post such video in which
You have no domain knowledge!!
He is saying that the indigenous Ship is useless, and asking to import there by more and more BRIBES to whosoever in Power.. This is india; CORRUPTION always wins.
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Not sure if my thought process is correct but a free Questions- even if INS Vikrant is to be ready in say 1.5 yrs time Full operationally, do we have enough Deck based fighter strength? Coz Mig 29 K are at based 60% availability say 24 at max few crashed before, so can bearly full fill Vikramaditya required fleet, NLC Tejas yet to be operational, TEDBF few years away given all these why we never thought of building with say Eg. FA 18 Super Hornet Block III F and Growler versions to equip INS Vikrant ? Mns Rafael M is also not fitting here so 😐
Super hornets will be taken on lease.
paresh1411:
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗜𝗔𝗖-𝟭 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆. It is now undergoing sea trials. In about a year it will be commissioned into the Navy as INS Vikrant.
We purchased 45 MiG-29Ks for both aircraft carriers. 5 or 6 have been lost to crashes. With the remaining we could have around 10-12 MiG-29Ks per carrier. So, maybe we'll have to have a few LCHs on board too.
Forget the Growler. It would need a CATOBAR system to launch. (The Vikrant has a skijump/STOBAR system.) But for the F/A-18 Super Hornet to operate effectively, it needs inputs from the Growler. But then, we might not go in for the F/A-18.
@Mukesh Agrawal:
Hasn't been found to be feasible.
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INS विक्रांत naval तेजस,tebdf, mig29k और fa18 सभी के लिए competible है ये बहुत अच्छी बात है और अब govt की ओर से इस पर तेजस ही deploy किया जाएगा इसलिए कोई दिक्कत नहीं है। भारत की सरकार ने देशहित में बड़े बड़े काम किए हैं। देश का भविष्य उज्जवल है। आप अपने विचार लिखें। वंदे मातरम।
After seen thumbnail shocked but explanation have given relief. Actually indian navy made it according to their need.
Navy should have ordered Naval Tejas, they can at least use it for shore-born operations.
It has a place in naval arsenal. I think its foreign maal comissions at work.
Naval tezas is not a descent aircraft for navy
Navy prefers two engines fighters in carriers
@Rohit Kothari:
All the armchair miltary 'experts'/ critics think that that they know more than all the defence planners put together. If they have nothing constructive to say they can always cast aspersions - foreign maal = big commissions.
The only solution is for 'smart' and 'scrupulously honest' people like you to join the armed forces.
Nothing against home grown products for me, in fact tedbf is the right fit for navy. We have to wait until that. Navy prefers home products than other services
@Rohit Kothari:
Naval variants of an aircraft are far more expensive. What shore-based operations would the ‘naval Tejas’ do??? Shore-based operations are the responsibility of the IAF.
Our country is big,our population are large but our aircraft carrier is small,!!!!!!!!!why????. Because we are lazy, talkative and waste a lot of money by burning firecrackers in any occasion.
It can be possible that it was made by keeping mig 29k in view as construction had started in 2009 and by then we don't have any plan for tedbf or other naval aircraft apart from mig29k which was already in service.
kam range wale chote fighter jets is chote aircraft carrier pe rakhne ka plan hai so dont doubt on our defense forces in this case speed mobility and accuracy is important....
Is tedbf timelines possible? Like first flight by 2026, production by 2030. If not what's the reality? Do we really need f/a-18 Since tedbf ready by 2030 ? If not can navy defend indian ocean with mig-29k. Pls answer
No TEDBF will be done by 2035 not 2030 that is Amca timeline,New flying coffin for India we have to be stuck with
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Sir main para militry se hu or apka regular viewer hu... Mujhe apka explanation is liye v jyada pasnd ata hai quki apke bato me humare padosi deso k liye jyada nafrat nhi hoti hum bas apna defence majbur kr rhe hai.. 👍
Actually Rafale or F-18 hornets were originally not designed for carrier borne operations. However USA & France both operate larger carriers. Americans have this culture with super large trucks, bigger cars, bikes everything big since they have money power and can afford it. Even their Abrams are heavy tanks like Arjuna Mk-2, but they don't make hue & cry like Indian Army. Whereas a lobby in South bloc and army headquarters advocate for Russian tanks. Atmost 500 T-14 Armata may e bought and subsequently MBT should also be put under negative list for imports. Similarly only limited Mig-29ks should be purchased to fill gap until TEDBF is available. Subsequently even naval fighters be added to negative import list. Else Superhornets are poorly designed for carrier operations
What INS VIKRANT require is a fleet each of Mig 29K and F/A 18SuperHornet..
Why not build twin engine tejas fr navy simultaneously with mark 1 A.
That was the inital idea and looking at the timeline and lifecycle they went for TEDBF
Can we land Mi-26 or Mi-17 helicopter on IAC Vikrant ?
Yes
@Krunal Parmar:
Why not?? Helicopters are VTOL aircraft anyway and there is plenty of space on the deck.
@Krunal Parmar
Max. takeoff weight of the Mikoyan MiG-29K is 24,500 kg, while that of the Mil Mi-17 is just 13,500 kg with under-slung load. So, if the MiG-29K can land on the IAC-1 Vikrant, why can't the Mil Mi-17??
In the case of the Mil Mi-26, the max. takeoff weight is a really huge 56,000 kg, but still a deck landing shouldn't present a problem.
I don't know if say neither Rafale M or FA18 will fit. Then how are the IN planning to maintain this stick. Certainly not with Upg MIG29 Krap that's my prayer, again our forces should not get mediocre Russian craft which is not even available for flying most of the time. It's like buying an Royal Enfield 70's model and show off in roads but you will not go beyond your galli and most of the time yu will be doing maintenance to give a context. Come on IN and govt if your listening arm them with good sea going aircraft.
@kratos I thought Boeing is still testing FA18 and ready to make some more test landing and take off in different settings either in Vikramaditya or Even Vikrant. After which they may be taking decision to lease right?
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Mixture of Mig 29k and Naval Tejas.. only option.. until TEDBF
Yar mujhe ye samaj nhi raha hai ke aircraft ko lift se sidha khada karke nikhala hi jarruri hai kya ?
Usse thoda tirchha ya teda karke lift se bahar nhi nikala jaskta 🧐
See it's simple, Tejas, MIG35/29, or TDBF will be available for this aircraft carrier. If USA wants it's F18 super Hornet or France Rafale to fit in, they need to budge not india. They need to provide solutions if they want their aircraft to fit in.
It's not just about the lift. There are many aspects involved: What are the mission parameters for Vikrant, how many aircraft can the ship is designed carry, what weight are the aircraft and max operating weight capacity of the lifts, and then width dimension of the aircraft. This video is just one dimensional. Multiple dimensions are mapped out while designing an aircraft carrier, and these can change with time.
If at all so, India has to go with limited number of FA 18 & wait for Indigenous Product.
Designed at early stages, when Rafel was not in picture ?
Super hornet tight fit,no Rafael at present form,naval lca single engine and not ready,so only mig 29k is the choice.then wait for ORCA.
We need indegeneous TEDBF,not desault Rafal.
आपने अपने वीडियो की हेडिंग दिया है " No place for fighters" तो क्या ये माना जाय की INS Vikrant बिना फाइटर के अनुपयोगी जहाज है????
नेवी और सरकार कुछ सोचकर ही ये कैरियर बनाया है।
I have a question did India get the electromagnetic launch system from USA? Talks were going on related to that right?
Government can be challenged for all defence related matters,and if someone is trying to bring down army's morale by critisizing by Tim diken and herry,sedition charges should be used
Sorry ,in my first sentance it should be read Government should not be challenged in defence related matters ,and if someone is trying to defame Government and defence , sedition case may be filed by Govt.
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Sir can we buy naval Tejas in small numbers as stop gap measure until TEDBF comes into the picture.
When TEDBF arrives, we convert nlca into deck based trainers
Excellent, good calculations and explanation. Indian Navy itni immature nahi hai kii 9m wide lift lagwaayegi. Jisme koi bhi naval aircraft fit hiii naa ho paaye. Actual data Indian navy ke paas hii hai. Photo dekh karr 9m ka anndaza lagane waalo ke paas nahi.
@John Hero Matrix dosent like Aircraft carriers he had a fight with alpha defense 9months ago saying we don't need INS Vishal,We already have big Andaman and Nicobar we could use as a carrier
@John Hero japan and South Korea have Helicopter carrier not Aircraft carrier even they dont believe the need for AC as thier enemy is at thier borders China and North Korea
Kya tedbf ka folding wingspan 9mt se km rkh payenge.
Sir, Very nice information... A Request if you could put some positive title... Existing one gives a very negative Vibes
Advanced aircraft carrier is always someway new compare to the previous one.. I like the lifts idea ❤️.. Waiting to see which aircrafts will it take
India should build 3 more aircraft carriers in parallel at different docks
Navy's budget is not that much!
Indian navy should aquire legendary fa18 hornet second hand that will fit in lift
Is it possible to purchase Xf9 157 kn Jet engine for Mark 2, Sukhoi 30 upgrade from Japan and use those fighter jets?
Nice and logical explanation.
It would be pertinent to note, that in January 2017, when the Indian Navy released an international Request for Information (RFI) for 57 "Multi-Role Carrier Borne Fighters", the contenders were Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and Dassault Rafale-M. The Mikoyan MiG-29K was excluded.
Sahi kah raha hai sabhi youtuber ko bulana chayie tha design banane ke liye.
What will make a difference is ships ability to defend itself.
Can you please make a video on how Vikrant's carrier battle group will look like.
yeh sare speculation "defense matrix" channel ke hai :D :D
Thanks for update bhaiya
Sir my question is India army chief looking Tata motors vehicle . How many variations vehicle Tata produce plz answer
By doing this daso rafel fighter and American F18 is out of contest. So Option are limited and it is bad news for INDIA.
The construction of this aircraft carrier was started before we baught Rafael.
@@shubhammishr In which year rafel came into existence in France navy we are doing late to purchasing not the dassault aviation . We are doing naval exercise with other countries. So we have to keep in mind while designing the aircraft carrier lift so we have more options in future.
As of now, it does seem that not having ‘foldable’ wings, automatically excludes the Rafale-M.
But… I have a feeling that France and Dassault knew it all along - that the Rafale-M, without ‘foldable’ wings was too big for the lifts of the IAC-1 (INS Vikrant), because these dimensions are not exactly classified information.
𝓝𝓞𝓣𝓔 : In 2002 too, the Indian Navy had considered the Rafale M - in service with the French Navy/Marine Nationale, onboard the 42,500-t FS Charles de Gaulle, as a possible carrier-borne aircraft, instead of the MiG-29K offered by Russia with the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier.
Nice analysis
Are you asking questions or telling facts?? 😅😅
It will be more good if we show our own visual means Indian Navy Indian Air force. Else nice video.
Bas aircraft carriers based diya Bina soche ki presents Mai konsa fighter deployed honge. It's all lion without teeth
The engineers would have kept the stealth option ! Indians arent dumb
When it was made at a cost, it had to be made a little bigger, it looked really small.
The Best Answer to All critisism will make no sense if AMCA comes with a foldable wing and engine with greater thrust....then neither Ski jump nor any other issue with carrier ❤️
Navy have no interest in Amca we have to wait for TEDBF until 2035 and be stuck with old Mig29k 😭😭
@Shaan Khaan:
There is no plan to make a carrier based version of the AMCA in the near future.
Indian Navy done it right and hatsoff to all involved.
The ac has jus entered waters and ppl have started putting unwarranted nosy opinions and behave like sme. The IN is a professional force and must have taken all options into considerations. Such unverified and unwanted discussions doesn't help the country. Everyone has a right to criticize but only after the facts are verified. Stop being a spoilsport. Let's celebrate this milestone for the time being.
We can't really say that the Dassault Rafale-M is out of the game - because of the Äηιℓ Äмвαηι factor.
The Navy would be willing to foot the bill for the modification and also be willing to wait the extra time that would be needed for flight trials and re-certification.
Future mein humme ek-do nuclear powered aircraft carrier bhi chahiye. Kam se kam 70-80 thousand tonnes ka.
@alphadefencehindi in my opinion it is worthless to aquire fighters from foreign vendors because if Indian Navy starts purchasing from now at least it would take 2 years to finalize (including RFP and RFI) the deal and the it would take at least 2 years to start to delivery and 2 years to complete the order (Dassault Rafale has taken 4 years to go in production) and also we'll have to cancel the tedbf which is already in its devlopment phase . Please make a video on this topic. The purchased fighters would likely get fully delivered till 2028-29 and till the there will be only a gap of year or two .
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All I'm worried about is the future of this carrier. It was incredibly short-sighted to use tiny lifts. Lemme explain:
AC are used for a loooong period, usually half a century if not more. Now the wars of 2060 won't be fought by humans, but machines. UAVs are going to play a central, not peripheral role in air ops, esp for reconnaissance. Freed by human limitations it isn't unusual for drones to fly 30-40+ hrs even today. And what's common in all high endurance drones ? Giant ass wings. And they're not paper that they can be folded twice or thrice.
Having a tight fit lift is thus invariably going limit the drone operations of this carrier, and this it's aerial power projections - a central purpose.
A very correct assessment. However, I think most of the aircrafts can fit in this lift as it’s not covered on all four sides so you can push the wheels of the aircraft to the open edges giving it more space at the front.
US operates drones from their carrier with foldable wings that fold twice or thrice.
I think it is not a huge deal to make modifications to the lift as you can extend the lift barge from the open end. To accomodate any aircraft I do agree it will cost more after that.
It’s the first aircraft carrier let’s see how it goes. French navy changed CDG several times costing billions in refit. The first home grown nuclear aircraft carrier was plagued by issues.
I hope the only issue this has is small lift. Which is solvable.
@Prabhav Shukla:
All naval aircraft - whether fixed wing or rotorcraft have ‘foldable’ wings. Most choppers even have a ‘foldable’ tail boom.
The tilt-rotor VSTOL Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey has 11.6m diameter three-blade propellers/6.7m height rotor system, and also the 6,200 SHP Rolls Royce turboshaft engine on each wing. But, the wing is foldable to reduce the 14m wingspan.
So, folding the “giant ass wing” of a lightweight UAV thrice, wouldn't be something that can't be achieved.
@@karanshah5604 yes, I believe a major refit would anyway be necessary sometime midlife, considering the CIWS installed is actually half of what was originally planned and this deficient.
About US carriers and drone operations it'd be indicative to compare the lift sizes. A single lift in Nimitz class carries TWO f/18 together. So operating drone is no biggie.
Haven't seen any aircraft with twice or thrice wing folds. You know any ones ?
@@le_ecrivaine are you aware of any aircraft with twice/thrice foldable wings ?
Even a single fold mechanism increay a lot of weight on wings. Something that's a premium in naval aircafts.
If required they can assemble extended plots with metal joints Carrier is very perfect
Although it is a very relavant issue that has been raised after the production of INS Vikrant but why suddenly this issue has been raised NOW ? the timings of the raising of issue is important as well as who has raised it now is also equally important ? someone is trying to push this issue with an intention of tacitly backing the purchase of a particular model of aircraft for the acquisition by the navy. So automatically the question that comes to my mind that whether aircraft carrier was constructed keeping in view only a particular fighter aircraft in mind while being designed at the initial stage itself ?
a matter that calls for investigation?
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Naval Design Bureau is first among the three services which is designing made in india ship platform for more than a decade, they more experience and know more than the some of us here.
India should buy mig-29 in limited number and focus on tedbef.
Buying F-18 or rafale-m will add more complexity in terms of logistics .
Thank you, nicely described.
Stay with Mig-29K & Tejas
Bro just a suggestion, it would be Better if you Increase your communication skills
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Hello Alpha Defense, I have a doubt - American aircraft carrier are comparatively larger than russian aircraft carrier but we see that American aircraft carriers are having island of approximately 30 meters where as Russian and indian carriers have island measuring more than 50-60 meters... can you tell me please.. thanks
They have a lot of stuff within the deck
India must not get Russian aircraft , keeping in mind Russian bent towards Russia, delay in supply of parts and old tech. India must get other fighter than Russian. Must keep all eggs in 1 basket. Simultaneously keep working on own naval fighter.