Best Thermal For The Money? | ThOR LT 320
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- In depth look at the new ATN ThOR LT 320
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Intro 0:00
Unboxing 2:35
Optic Controls 3:59
Menu Walkthrough 8:09
Tech Specs 10:52
Optic Setup 16:20
My Overall Thoughts 19:53
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I have one, I returned mine 3 times in the first year of ownership under warranty, and it is at the low end of the thermal scopes.
The BAD: I can see things at 400 yards, but they need to be within 200 for me to identify them, maybe even 150 yards. They do not like humidity AT ALL. Images are blurry above 4x zoom. Don't waste your money on a 6x or 8x zoom.
The GOOD: It is easy to zero. It is light weight, it has a simple menu and buttons on top because it doesn't have many options, it has a long lasting battery, it turns on and boots up fast.
Would I buy it again, NO. I wasted a lot of time shipping back and fourth. First 2 couldn't be repaired, they were replaced.
There are too many thermals out there with way better reliability, with longer warranty.
What others would you recommend?
Thank you for taking the time to cover this information, it can be overwhelming to try and figure out which unit is best for our particular hunting.....
Our thermal is very cost-effect
I like it but it needs 2 things.
1) If no bullet calculations or laser rangefinder, then it needs a new switchable crosshair like the Primary Arms ACSS reticle set for 5.56/308 for built in range estimation on man targets.
2) Battery pack expansion
Great video! I’m glad that more budget friendly optics are being made. Gun room is looking on point
Thank you! And yes the studio is finally coming together!
I talked to an ATN rep and he said the LT does come with the smart Mil-Dot reticle. So with a handheld range finder and the mil-dot reticle you don't really need to Thor 4's advanced features if your shooting under 200 yds. Just do holdovers with the reticle. The smart Mil-dot does work like FFP reticle.
Great video and explanations, Kyle. How does it perform in day?
An incredible thorough review. Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to watch
Awesome review... concise clear and quick! Liked and subbed!
Thanks for watching and your sub!
Nice. I could not find any comparison for the LT vs the Thor 4 but this covers it nicely. Had to ask an employee even what the difference is between the 320 an the 160 LT's
All I want is all I need I just need one with cross hair I don't need any thing fancy no phone no pictures just a thermal scope
Then this would be an excellent option for you.
That was explanation of the differences in the LT 320 and Thor 4 with 384 that I've found. Thanks
a year later I picked up the ATN Thor LT (budget) This video is very helpful... I hope I will be able to upgrade to the Thor 4... Thank you
How’s the scope doing?
Well explained , covered all areas of importance, easy to follow and understand.
Great job .
Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to watch, glad you found it useful.
Hear a lot of bad things about atn. Is it reliable? What kind of warranty does it have?
Just starting this video. Your video making skills are 👍
Great review as usual! I picked on up in Late October and Love it!!! It's exactly what I need to kill hogs.
Thank you for watching, and glad your enjoy your ThOR LT!
What recoil can the LT series handle? Any particularly high recoil rifle calibers?
Well done. Got the Sightmark Wraith (NV though) recently...apples/oranges I know.
How do you like it?
Really well done! Thank you.
Here again, you have the ATN base/rings mounted backwards for a AR platform. Might work on another type rifle, with a further forward mounting rail. Eye relief is the determining factor. But your backwards for an AR. The offset mount again should be attached to the muzzle end of the scope. That's why it's made like that. Nice video, though....
Do I want a 3-6x or 4-8x for magnification? Most of my shooting will be within 100-200 yards or closer. What do you recommend?
are still impressed with the LT i just received the binox 4k last week,, im impressed with them and now wanting a thermal.
What's the range on this scope before it gets that grainy fuzzy look I'm looking for a scope for my 22-250 for coyotes but I'm having a hard time figuring out what would be able to come in clear at 50-200 yards
You’ll get detection to 2000+ yards, decent outline at 250-300 yards but to really positively ID something 0-200 yards
Have you had any problems with shooting Messing up the pixels?
None so far.
Can you connect your phone via USB cable to the scope?
Had my for less then a year and sending it back in for repair. Been getting gray screen after a few minutes of use. Also got horizontals lines running across the screen. I was told its still under warrantee.
Are the batteries replaceable if they stop charging
12:12
IniRay outdoor Rico HD RS 75 , 1280 thermal resolution .
Great video ---What is the cost for your Thor LT 320 ?
I've seen a lot of comments about these being fairly unreliable. Is it because these things are internally flimsy and not properly built to handle recoil? are these things recoil rated?
In the ATN forums I’m in, I see a lot more positive feedback than negative. With most things I think it’s the unhappy people wanting to post their opinions whereas not everyone who has a good experience takes the time to post. I have a small sample size of ATN products, but I have not had an issue with mine, so I have a positive opinion this far.
Will this work on my Ruger .22 rifle so I can shoot rats, squirrels, and coyotes? Thanks
That’s what I want to do. Did you try it 😎
Great video review. Thanks
Can it be used as a regular daytime scope?
Thermal scopes can be used day or night, but will only be in the thermal spectrum. They will not look like a standard optical rifle scope.
Does the scope hold the zero when powered off and back on later?
Yes, the zero will be saved. I always suggest noting your zero coordinates just in case.
Thank you for great video and good explanation. How is the day time viewing?
It works well, but like with any thermal, in a hot daytime environment you lose contrast between animals and hot ambient surroundings.
@@4MRRanch Thank for the reply. So the scope is always in thermal mood? you can not switch to a day time viewing like the Thor 4 models?
Awesome detailed review
Great video. thank you.
Good video! Well done .
Thanks for watching.
Great review! Thanks
How do you zero it? One tap is moving my POI 4".
I’d check to see if your firmware is most current, that seems like a lot more crude of an adjustment than on mine.
I have shot 200 rounds in an AR 15 300 Blackout using this exact scope and I still can't hit a feed sack at 50 yards. Every time I turn it on it shoots way low. Then I work the zero up and make it hit center. Then I click for it to save my zero and it just says calibrating FOR EVER. Never will calibrate I guess and its been that way since I took it out of the box. I can iron sight in the dark better than this thing. I am sure I am not doing something right but it seems like it just won't save the zero after you turn it off
Personally, I would try and update to the latest firmware to see if you have a potential bug in the stock software that has since been patched. If that doesn’t work I’d then try and reach out to ATN, something’s definitely off.
Are you using the 5-10X magnified?
can you recommend scope rings for the ATN Thor LT
Is the atn range finder compatible with this optic?
Not with the ThOR LT, you would need to use the ThOR 4. Checkout my ThOR 4 vs LT video.
Hi Isaac, Nice to meet you! This is Lily from shenzhen nnpo technology co.,ltd which is a professional thermal imaging riflescope manufacturer. Our company can provide thermal riflescope whith range finder. May i know are you interested in it?
There are three different LT 320 models what are your thoughts on magnification? I am thinking 3X6 would be the best all around but have no real world experience hunting with a thermal.
I'm running the 3x6 and I find it's perfect for my hunting. I've slayed hogs from 35 yards to 175 yards. I hunt in The Central Texas area in woods with small pastures. I can spot hogs out to 300 yards and Identify hogs and deer at 200 yards easily.
I have the 4 x 8 and if I had known then what I know now, I wouldn't have spent the extra $$$ on the 4 x 8. 4x is good and clear. When I swap to 8x, it's very blurry, no adjustment can clear it up.
If I were to do it again, I would go with the 3 x 6.
Quick question. What was the zoom ratio on your LT 320?
at 8:06 you can see on the side of the scope says 3x6
I've seen a few reviews that talk mainly about the scope not performing due to a technical issue from the factory. Have you had any issues where you had to send any of your ATN scopes to the manufacturer for repair or replacement, if so what was it?
So far, so good across the board for me.
does the atn thor lt have a range finder in it?
I think I missed the price?
What is the cost of the scope?
What mounts are the ones you have on the scope in the video? Will they work with picattiny rail?
They are ATN rings, and yes they are compatible with picantiny rails
If it only recorded video!
Is this also a day scope ?
Great video very informative. I just recently have started doing some ‘yote hunting and I’m on the fence between thermal and NV. I know thermal is probably the way to go but with the price difference it’s hard to justify a thermal.
I did have one important question I know you said you haven’t had any reliability issues but I’ve read a lot of other reviews on the ATN lite models talking about the scope/image freezing up and having to turn it off and back on after every single shot. Have you seen or heard anything about this? Thanks again for the great video 💪🏼
I’m glad you found this video helpful. I have had an occasional, and brief freeze on the other ATN models I have used, they have all been resolved by powering off the devices and then powering them back on. That said, the ThOR LT has not yet had a freeze on me in my now 4 months of using it.
What is the back illumination on YOU at night? No one has shown if the shooters face gets lit up.
The ATN line can go pretty dim, on the lowest setting it’s not overwhelmingly bright, and has never caused any of the animals I’ve stalked to be spooked or notice me in the slightest. I can’t say the same is true for all my scopes, but ATN does get nicely dim, and their eye cups can be used to capture any additional light pollution
Should have really shown what it's used for, animals at night at different distances. That's all everyone wants to see.
The only down fall is that it doesn't have a Microphone, which is a big bummer for me.
It does not record video.
Hello there , thanks for the awesome video , listen which new model recommend for a crossbow and rifle at the same time. White tail hunting , I am amateur hunter , if can advise some model of ATN scopes
Hi friend, This is Lily from shenzhen nnpo technology co.,ltd. Our company produced the latest NNPO TR20 series thermal imaging riflescope for hunting. May i know are you interested in it?
can you see thorugh it when it is turned off? no information on that online..
No, it’s a digital optic. You see through it electronically, not optically. So when the device is powered off or loses power you cannot see anything but a black screen.
Would this work for a home defense setup on a 9mm carbine?
It would work, but I would not recommend it due to limited field of view up close, the image focus has to be adjusted more at closer distances than far distances, and you can't ID if its a bad guy or good guy as straight forward in thermal from a facial recognition perspective.
Ok I didn`t hear the price even though you talked about price differences.
That is because I leave my videos up indefinitely and the price will fluctuate, so I include links in the description. This video was filmed roughly a year ago, for example. This model in the current market is going for around $1800 new.
At 8:40 of the video you have the thermal option turned off somehow, how did you do that?
That was just an overlay of a camera angle done in editing to show what you were looking at through the scope.
@@4MRRanch Thank you. Would be so cool if the scope actually did that.
Excellent video. What’s the $$$$?
160x120 vs 320x240?
Hey there boss I enjoyed the video I found it very informative and I have some questions.
I am in the market for a update for both daytime and nighttime hunting.
What do you recommend that is budget friendly less than $1500.
I plan on only shooting mid range somewhere around 2:00 to 5:00 yd at most.
Check out my ATN LTV and 4K Pro reviews or comparison. They both come in at under the $1500 you want to spend, and do a great job.
What's the difference between the mars and thor
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I find there is a delay between real time and what u see in scope hard to hit moving targets
I personally have not noticed a significant latency to my eye, but it could be that I’m used to electro optics
Hey boss I have another question I just thought of what are your thoughts of using a monocular as a rifle scope
In terms of monocular I’m assuming you mean a night vision or thermal device. If so, I’m not sure that will work out for you unless it has a reticle you can zero. This is also assuming you can mount it. You might be able to rig it as a diy clip on nightvision/thermal device to sit in front of your daytime scope, but since that’s not its indented use it may not work as well as a dedicated clip on would have.
In other words, don't do it.
Can you have an external power source
YEs
I need this scope please.
Great Videos, very well laid out. Appreciate the detail! I bought the LT 320 4x as my first scope hoping to eventually get to a Trijicon MKIII Hunter.
I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for taking the time to watch. More to come!
How is the trijicon?
Lordporter1 how’s it holding up? Just got a 5x10 LT 320
@@hughjanus8126how are you liking the 5x
@@KillenNReelinoutdoors I’m very impressed. Base magnification is great resolution, zoomed in it degrades a little as with all thermals but you can still easily identify. I was identifying deer well past half a mile off my front porch at night.
What kind of range can you shoot out to?
It really depends on how well you can differentiate animal movement. At distance, a deer with its head down eating can visually be mistaken for a hog, but they move very slow and leisurely when grazing whereas hogs move more erratically. You’ll see glowing at 2,000 yards plus with this, but that doesn’t mean you’ll know what it is until you get closer. But this is tru for even the 640 resolution scopes I’ve used.
@@4MRRanch thanks for the response and review
when would you go for the tico
Although I have not gotten to use the TICO yet, clip on thermal has its perks. You can use your daytime scope and quickly convert it to thermal. Clip on thermal actually works pretty well.
I have the same scope. When my scope catches the horizon it turns my entire sight picture the color of the air temperature. How can I fix this? Tried contacting ATN but no response.
I would first make sure firmware is updated to the most current version, in case it’s an issue they have made a patch for. I would then try different thermal sensitivity settings if that doesn’t work.
@@4MRRanch The only update on the ATN website is for the Thor 4. Would that be the update I use?
Any video looking thru the scope?
How much does it cost?
Depends on the specific model, that’s why I refer people to the link in the description of the video. But the two competed here usually fluctuate around $3k (4.5-18x ThOR 4) and $1800 (320 sensor 3-6x ThOR LT)
Hi friend, this is Lily from shenzhen nnpo technology co.,ltd . Our company can provide the thermal imaging riflescope and night vision scope. May i know are you interesting in it? Our products are quite cost-effect.
@@NNPOTechnologyCoLtd 60hertz?
@@SANTHAJIPERVAR 50hertz
Do these scopes work with a fixed front sight? I have an X-Sight mounted on an AR-15 and it works well but I am new to the thermal world.
Also, in terms of graininess at max zoom, is the 320 LT better in the 3x6 or the 4x8 configuration?
I have not tested this personally as I don’t have any fixed front sight rifles. It may have more impact than with the X sight depending on the temp of the front sight.
The stronger the base magnification, the better your resolution will be at higher powers, so the 4x8 will do better than the 3x6
sorry to say i stopped all my shooting with atn thermal to many probs with them a real shame they cant sort out there probs.i moved on to the infiray thermal now with no probs to date.
Which model did you get and how do you like it?
@@jacksonwebb6389 I bought the infiray TL35 tube thermal scope and never had a problem from out of the box.
@@theobenrapidforum8599 do you mind me asking how much it was? I'm considering many brands buy and infiray is on the list. Do you have to contact them to get much info?
@@jacksonwebb6389 Hi Jackson.We have a member on our forum who is a sponcer.he gives the forum members discounts on his products and the tl35 thermal was £2200 posted to the door.
Hi Jackson, This is Lily from shenzhen nnpo technology co.,ltd which is a professional thermal imaging scope manufacturer. Our company produced latest NNPO TR20 series thermal imaging riflescope. may i know are you interested in it? Our products are quite cost-effect.@@jacksonwebb6389
Is it useful in daytime
Yes it is.
@@4MRRanch nice.....I don't do any hunting but I do like playing airsoft and during the daytime a lot of guys are wearing ghillie suits. I'm thinking of picking one up so that I can just spot them easier. I only need to it to be effective for 100 yards. .
Thanks
I love the set up bro
Much appreciated
Wats the difference between the Mars Lt n this thor Lt
Anything a normal person can afford is best. So long as it holds zero.
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It's a thousand bucks more than the FLIR Breach and is probably just some Chineseium brand. So no.
Do you have experience with the 120x160 model? I’m assuming thats mpi. It’s considerably less money
I do not have first hand experience with that model, so really can’t give you an educated opinion on it.
I had the 160 3x - 6x THOR LT and returned it. it was to zoomed for me and the resolution wasn't great but it was usable. Thor 4 is a big upgrade resolution wise though.
How about a MSRP ??? Wtf
Because there is no way to know when you will watch this, I try not to mention that. There’s a link in the description to assist in finding.
Key example.. when this video was released the optic could be found for around $1800 now it’s going for $1250 due to ATN having newer offerings coming out.
Don't make the same mistake I did. Don't do business with ATN!