Hamilton Morris - Creating The Future Of Psychedelics | Modern Wisdom Podcast 284
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- Hamilton Morris is a journalist, documentary producer and a chemist.
Hamilton's Pharmacopeia is one of the most interesting documentaries around chemistry, psychoactive drugs, psychedelic culture and traditional uses for plant medicine ever.
Sadly Season 3 is the last one, but Hamilton joins me today to talk about his interest in consciousness, why chemistry hasn't captured culture like other sciences, why Mkat failed because of a branding issue, why we should be synthesising DMT ourselves instead of squeezing Bufo Alvarius the psychedelic toad of the Sonoran Desert and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:35 What is Hamilton’s Work?
04:38 Why Isn’t Chemistry More Popular?
08:33 Can Science Explain Consciousness?
13:17 Psychedelics in Culture
22:51 Are Psychedelics Spiritual or Scientific?
30:10 The Experience of Using Psychedelics
38:47 Effects of Legalising Drugs
47:03 Ethics of Party Drugs
1:03:29 Hamilton’s Respect for Drugs
1:08:21 The Issue with the Media
1:17:11 Future of Psychedelics
1:19:38 Where to Find Hamilton
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Interesting talk. I get conflicted on these issues because, sure these things can be positive. But I was a teen in the 80s and I've seen the whole gamut, including the wreckage and those who pursue these things to death.
I do like the idea of Government staying out of these matters, but this also presumes people act rationally. Also the last 11 months has proven conclusively that Government literally can't stay out of our lives no matter how minor. As such this gent is dreaming, just like the people were 50 years ago, just without the layers of woo.
Edited, great spot.
I really hope the next time you have Hamilton on you ask about glyphosates talked about by Zach Bush, I’d love to hear his take on these poisons and I wonder if it’s close to the devastation Zach talks about. Thank you for all you do here and your ability to talk about controversial topics.
Just found your channel because I’ve been on a Hamilton binge lol but I wanted to commend you on your interview skills this was a really good podcast and I can’t wait to look at what else you have up
the term about the inexplicability of consciousness I think is Marx referriung to is as an "epiphenomenon" recall the epiphysis is the classical Greek term for the pineal gland... You should spend less time at the gym and read some more.
I see Hamilton - i click
Good heuristic for life tbh.
IDK him, is he a doctor? Talks like a PhD, but something is weird..
@@arturobianco3884 He's a very eclectic and very valuable person. You should look him up.
in a good way, hamilton is a living click bait
Absolutely
Psychedelic is the answer to most severe anxiety and depression...The use of magic mushrooms completely helps one get over depression and makes you feel like yourself...I used antidepressants for some years but it only made me feel like a zombie but with immediate use of mushroom 🍄 in few months I feel like I'm living a whole new Life.
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have a lot more empathy as well
I've been having this constant, unbearable anxiety because of university stress..not until I met Myco.spore.. he really helped me
Is he on Instagram?
@@morrisivy6726 yes...he is Myco.spore
Serously i am not experience any visuLs or anything in mushroom and lsd and done candy flipping also,i am on drepression lills for 4 years and if i didnt consume my brain os shaking
I love Hamilton, one of the few people who speaks honestly about drugs.
He and Dr Carl Hart seem to be leading the charge. I'd love to see the two of em in a panel discussion
Him and Terence McKenna
He might not feel the same way but if I was stuck on a long flight, I wouldn't mind having him sitting in the seat next to me to converse with. At least I wouldn't be bored.
@@Mill_-hi6rtMcKenna isn't around anymore for quite a while now in case you don't know.
@@BLUEGENE13he’s done great talks with Dennis Mckenna tho :)
I find the fact that Hamilton would appear on a podcast with his hair in such a state kind of inspiring.
Came here to same, bout that beautiful bed head 😂😂
He kinda always rocks the mad scientist hair though lol
I wear my hair a little intentionally messy it looks cool plus u get to be lazy and not wash it much.
I absolutely love this man and his bed head, he is still so INCREDIBLY HOT
Why do you even care?
I am currently micro dosing LSD. I suffered a brain injury 10 years ago, and I've been on every seizure medication and antidepressant out there. I sit on the couch. I never leave my house, except for doctor's appointments. I can't stop my obsessive thoughts about what life could have been that I'm a failure, that nothing is ever going to be okay again. I'm not exaggerating when I say on my third day I felt better than I have since before my brain injury! I was up doing things I drove my car to the store by myself for the first time and over a year on day 3! This is huge for me. I look forward to what things are going to be available for people in the future. I can't believe that this has been kept from people with PTSD and depression for so long! I'm just not sure how often to take it I have it in a dropper bottle diluted with vodka. Maybe not the best chemical way to deliver it but I'm a whole new person! I've cried tears of joy, because of how I feel now. 🙏❤️🙂
Six to eight hours should be as often as you need it but really once a day should work it works for mine. Just don't increase fast and just use what works
You can gain a tolerance but it’s way different with micro-dosing than macro it’s weird. Some people doing it just as healthy individuals do certain days on and certain days off. Like one day on three days off or instead 2 days on 5 days off etc.
That's awesome man, I'm really happy for you. Check out what Paul Stamets has to say and his protocol. He also advises lions mane and some other mushroom suppliments that drive neuro genesis. I've been taking lions mane and some cordyceps for a few weeks and I def notice a difference
@@taborwhitehead8418 didnt know there was a tolerance w lsd since it clears the body in a few hours. Clears the body b4 the trip is over
Take a day off once a week to flush your brain and keep potency even
"People are spending all of their time in front of computers"
Me, watching this on a computer
Hamilton in front of a computer
"People are spending all their time in front of computers"
Radios and newspapers still exist. Thank God!
PieCe
@@vanjam412 Haha
Should have switched to you phone
@@claytonbinns7679 right
Im 80 years of age and lived safely on the edge for most of those years. I find Mr. Morris to be incredibly sane and with the best intentions and practices of anyone I've met.
Psychedelics definitely has potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression , I would like to try them but it's hard to source them here
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery , it's quite fascinating how effective they're for depression and stress disorders . Saved my life
@@bizffatar5824 proven very effective in the treatment of various mental health issues aside from other health benefits. Helped me get out of years of depression and excessive alcohol use.
@@vickiebeaver6843 I've been looking to try shrooms, anyone knows where can I acquire some?
@@peterestrada8542 I'll recommend you to a store I got some of psychedelic products Lsd , edibles cannabis DMT , mushrooms XTC , Xanax , vape pen and they nice
@@woodMicheal Does anyone know where I can source them?
His hair could not match his occupation more perfectly...
Chemist hair?
@@ChrisWillx I think he means "mad scientist" hair 😁
Hamilton has been my favorite scientist for many years now. He is a dogged pursuer of knowledge and his unabashed enthusiasm for his chosen field is both fun and educational for his audience. A man who needs to be given a larger platform for his work.
I'm a chemist, this dude looks and acts exactly like a chemist.
Look up old pictures of him, his long hair fit maybe even better lol
I wish I was this articulate.
Anything’s possible.
@@stonerman15 I will one day be this articulate (manifest a better future)
Best thing to do is read
You can be. Believe in yourself and read books.
Hamilton is THE man
He has zero charisma, but has incredibly wealthy parents.
lsd😏
Probably but he is still awesome :) if i had wealthy parents i would actually be hamilton it is the only diffremce between me and him the wealth apart from that we are one and the same haha..
@@jimjiminyjaroo300 charisma stat is dogshit anyway
Healthy dose of mushrooms every 3 months or so has done me better than 10 years of meds and therapy
I haven’t felt this good since I was 19 I’m 42
I'm overdue a trip, I usually end up tripping once a year or two. I'm not sure I could handle one every 3 months!
@@360flipmaster funny you say that cus it’s been about 3 months I still have a bunch but I don’t feel the need to take them right now,
@@Ectobro That's fair, I feel the opposite at the moment!
Same. I do the McKenna 5 g dose.
Yes 😍
Hamilton is the Carl Sagan of drugs and chemistry.
Oh my god I've been watching Hamilton's pharmacopia for years
I'm so excited to watch this
Enjoy man. Hamilton is a beast.
When I was a kid growing up you could buy chemistry sets, electronic sets, telescope sets, etc. at Sears, Woolworths, and so on. Dubious as some of them were, they encouraged children's interest in chemistry. As was everything of that era, it was a hands-on, tactile, analog experience. Today, every other scientific field has an endless variety of starter kits or other means to give children the same hands-on experience, but attempt to put together a small but decent lab and you'll get a visit from the feds. There is zero chance of the chemistry equivalent of a Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or Elon Musk emerging. Whether or not that is a good thing for society I do not know, but it is a blessing to the oil and chemical industry.
Hah, ya see, this guy gets it.
Hamilton makes a distinction between the pharmacological description of a process and the essence of a thing best described by literature. This is brilliantly precise. This kind of brilliance is dispersed unevenly among minds and when I encounter a pocket of this brilliance, it makes the year worth being present for.
Word!
loving the fact that this interviewer lets the guest talk.
I agree Jesse. The power of building great relationships.
Massive love for Hamilton. I remember how star struck my husband and I were when we saw him in a bar during Breaking Convention in London 2019! We would have approached him to say hi but we were tripping too hard, on 2CB funnily enough lol
🤔 Then how do you know it was really him if you didn't talk to him?
I've been mistaken before but I don't know who I was "supposed" to be 🤣 I've had 20-year-olds jump out of their seats when they see me. I guess they think I'm an Instagram person, like one of those make-up artists or an influencer. I've _never_ had an Instagram account 🤷🏽♂️
@@syguzman5739 Maybe you should think about making an instagram/youtube then, people already mistaking you for some sort of make-up influencer sounds like you'd do well as one lol
@@Failzz8 😃 Thank you!
Oh I would’ve died ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I think he might have found that funny
You are doing great work Hamilton. It seems like a golden era of psychedelic research is coming, and as Chris said, you are positioned perfectly for it.
#truth
@TRIPWITH_jeffSounds like a scam
Sasha Shulgin has passed the torch
Keep up the good work Hamilton, we appreciate your hard work 🙏
Hamilton Morris + Paul Stamet = NEW WORLD 🌎
This is one of the best interviews of Hamilton! I really enjoy his curiosity and his intelligence. We need more Hamilton!
His perspective on consciousness and more on what constitutes life is just as important to the conversation of God or the spiritual. We are all an interesting mix of molecules now aren’t we?
This podcast is a savior in the intellectual space in the absence of JRE. Love it
Thank you Matt. I'm working hard AF right now, really glad to see it's showing.
If you crave great cerebral podcasts, try Dark Horse, Lex Fridman, Rebel Wisdom or Portal, you will thank me later.
There’s no absence of JRE just people who didn’t value it.
Lol if you want to watch JRE, you need to just click like 5 buttons and your'e in
@@rksilvergreen I'm good
I could never get bored of listening to Hamilton. He's so intelligent, and down to earth. Great interview, thank you! 💚
Now that Joe Rogan is wasting his time on Spotify, the best podcast on the internet goes to.....
Haha thank you, he's still the GOAT. But I'll warm the bench until he comes back.
@@ChrisWillx will be washed by that time. I'm more excited by the new #1 anyway 😁
Yesss! 🙌🙌🙌
Idk if I would call $100,000,000 contract a waste of time but I agree that this is a phenomenal podcast.
Yup. This show, and Lex's podcast are the new rogan for me recently.
Came here for a fresh serving of ideas from Hamilton, but staying because you're a great host and was able to keep the conversation moving and interesting while also adding a lot from your own experiences. Now that I know this forum exists I'll be eagerly awaiting more talks and checking out everything else you do so thank you for creating this amazing content🤙
I love Hamilton’s work. He is working to help protect the environment and to help humanity come together and love each other.
we should all do our part, no matter how big or small, @Ricky Bobby
Hamilton quoted nearly fully Terence McKenna in the first clip cut from the podcast. Thank you, Hamilton, from the bottom of my heart for continuing the work of the priest/pysician in its most honorable way.
Listening to this man while being stoned is so profoundly pleasant and thought-stimulating.
Hamilton reminds me of a grown version of the kid from Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs and I love it
That was my favorite book as a kid . Holy crap I forgot about it. The giant pancakes and stuff
Hamilton Morris is so fascinating, and what he is pointing towards regarding the value of psychedelics and chemistry is a message our current culture NEEDS to hear.
I think Hamilton Morris would loathe this comment, but it's so beautiful to watch how he is healing as a result of years of working with these substances, becoming much more gentle, compassionate and wise.
Much love
I saw the videos of Hamilton in the amazon jungle looking for the green frog the other day. Some funny shit ahah
Or he's just adjusting to the increased fame and is making good money pandering to all of you druggies lol
🤣 druggies? Are you living in the 1980’s? Is LSD going to fry your brain like an egg? Oh dear
Why would he hate ur comment
You two have great chemistry flowing some quite important insights, please do this again.
This is the most important video I've seen all year. So many fantastic talking points between them both. A truly beautiful conversation!
The contemporary discourse of mental health finally is showing some light at the end of this global mental health crisis.
Do you think Psychedelics will go mainstream for Mental Health treatment before 2030?
@@ChrisWillx not unless either the tobacco or pharmaceutical industry can first lock it down with regulations and overcharge for it first. They will be sure to keep it illegal for regular people to produce/grow their own.
@@ChrisWillx nope. Mainstream implies too much
It was the most satisfactory definition of Consciousness that I've ever heard. He has thought about things so deep & precisely.
Hamilton is a rare example of greatness. Thank you both
"Moved to tears at the sight of a dog on the street" lol, facts, I know this feeling very well.
Overall gratefulness and graciousness, as well as a general appreciation for the beauty of life, are some of the lasting effects they've had on me; a true blessing, my trips have been for me...
... especially the bad ones😉
It is sad. Street doogos and street pussies. 🐕 🐱 😞
One of the best speakers on these subjects. So excited to watch this!
Wow! Hamilton's analogy about the concept of 'consciousness' being somewhat similar to the concept of 'life' is so spot on, i love it!
10:54 I totally share this intuition. It's nice to hear someone articulate it clearly.
I have been on the verge of starting my own group here in Memphis to get more of a push for study and truly focused research. No one I know even knows who this is. lol Love you all
LSD, Mushrooms, and MDMA have made me more spiritual and loving in so many ways. Have you noticed how many people have speed or designers claiming their MDMA? I think the rave movement scared the powers because it was happiness. Pure empathy and that isn't good for the agenda. It's so rare in the midwest
rave culture before it was commercialized as whole was very special showed we dont need protecting, told what to wear, told who too idolize, what to think via all these algorithms ect...- that scared them for sure. . . .shame the powers at be scheduled x so quickly. mainly BIDEN was responsible. BUT truth always rises up and it will be cleared and back in action where it belongs. As all powers really accomplished was creating a blackmarket and causing more deaths and miss-doses all on their shoulders.
Love! Thanks for sharing and posting this interview, Modern Wisdom! ❤
I have thoroughly enjoyed every interview, film, article etc of Hamilton Morris... What a well ordered, open, articulate and focused mind!
I especially love that he consistently differentiates and spot lights the differences between 'abuses of a substance' and 'issue's of prohibitions'. This is such an important point towards moving forward in ending the war on drugs and moving the conversation onto a more productive and sustainable use of public resources for example, bringing educated researched scientific fact to a very opinion based discussion...
Thanks to Hamilton and all who bring this message to the masses✌😁
A wise soul you are bro. Your views on chemistry to a layman stir up a world of interest.
mate, I gotta say this is one of best podcast i’ve ever heard!
This man does so much 🤍 his genuine love and passion is inspiring
Every single thing Hamilton says makes such perfect sense to me.. what a reassuringly sane, brilliant, gorgeous human ❤
The first time I saw HM years ago my first reaction was to judge his appearance. He has made a fool of me and is one of the most principled people I've had the pleasure to learn from.
Seriously, history has proven that the spot judgment that I made of a younger Hamilton was one of the worst that I have ever made.
Love Hamilton! Dude be dropping hella knowledge!
thank you so very much for all your difficult work . you are a very important person in the psychedelic movement . i hope that society can come to grips with reality .
Hamiltion is the best at explaining this type of stuff, and he is right there is no material on Chem. IF he did a series in Chemistry explaining everything from the start to how to start. I would be into chemistry NOW!
Yeah boyyy I did that Hamilton Morris most recent date search and BOOM FOUND THIS HITTER💪💪💪 Hyped I love hearing Hamilton.
Enjoy!
My acid trip, gave me the ability to give myself goosebumps on demand!
Mind over matter, baby!
😮 you're almost a fucking superhero 🎉🎊🎉🎊
JK😁
I was able to turn the stars off and on lol
Wait... this isn't something all people can do? Me and both my brothers used to always give ourselves goosebumps when we were little kids, I've always assumed that was just normal.
Your insight on social media, starting at @1:12:51 earned the subscribe right there. I've been feeling this for a while, especially the consumption vs creation, and it feels like a very black ball.
Man, nothing but respect for Hamilton!
I remember people used to hate on him in the early Vice days.
Fantastic episode, never a dull moment with Hamilton
Great questions and very interesting podcast. Thank you.
Thank you both for your time and insight.
Thank you Chris Williamson & Hamilton Morris for posing and discussing said topics and perceptions. Perception issues (in my opinion) is the biggest base issue with every topic on this Earth.
What an interesting conversation, much appreciated! Glad I stumbled onto this channel.
Thanks Caty, lots of other episodes for you to enjoy too 👊
You really stepped it up with this one man. Great job!
Thanks Bern. Called in a favour from Ms Peterson for this one.
Can't wait! Guests are getting ever better!
Chris you ask all the right questions. Keep up the good work!
Consciousness can't be understood or characterized, but you can have direct unitive experience with it through the regular practice of meditation. Consciousness, the whole of creation, the source of all being, absolute reality, or whatever you want to call it. Wish more scientists would take up the practice. They seem deeply confounded by something that's been explored throughout the ages and written about quite powerfully and lucidly.
Listening to Hamilton is soooo relaxing
Love Morris and his perspectives, thanks for sharing!
Your questions are spot on with all of your guests, thanks for the content!
Thanks Joseph, I love these conversations
This is actually one of Hamilton's best interviews. I really liked this one!
The metamorphosis has been phenomenal to watch. Started out as a curious onlooker, ended up as full blown drug culture expert with experience to boot. Nice job!
Made his hobby his job.
Chris I have to be honest never heard of you before but I must say I am impressed. Your interviewing skills are immaculate. You are articulate, respectful, and you ask great question. Great job!
Getting a cross the right people w what they have 2 say matters more than the journalist
Hamilton’s openness to mainstream criticism is valid and important - both from the scientific community at large and the litany of individuals whom view his work, and his responses are even better.
"Maybe it wasn't the overarching media conglomerate that distributed it, maybe it was a human being that should be appreciated, or whatever"
Well put
Great interview! I love Hamilton Morris. He's a modern day pyschonaut lol.
Side note, I wonder if Chris Williamson has ever done any voice acting or narration in his life. He has very nice sounding voice.
Very good talk Hamilton, thanks! I loved the story about the toad (min 17) and I agree with your point of view, very well expressed and yes, it's easy to understand.
Love Hamilton. Just everything about him. Great interview, thank you.
LSD and Psilocybin changed my life
Good stuff mate😅
Congratulations brother, we to were healed by the plant medicines and now heal others in the UK 🇬🇧 we treat PTSD and drug addiction, email : tripsitteruk@protonmail.com
extractionsandire is the CZcams channel Hamilton mentioned at the beginning where the guy is synthesising cubane in his garage. He's pretty funny
Thank you!!!
Love this guy. Hamilton is always a blessing.
This has been one of the most enjoyable CZcams videos I have seen in weeks. Thank you!
Hamilton Morris + Alexander Shulgin = Solution to most of the world problems
Oh boy, another person that thinks that drugs are the solution to all of the world's problems. So if that is really the case why didn't we stop all wars and end world hunger after the 60's?
They weren't on 50mg 4-HO-MET 😂 Thats why!!
Hamilton, keep up the good work brotha 💯
@@joeldavis5815 not enough drugs
Great discussion, Hamilton is an interesting dude.....
"Come on Man" , . . . he's clearly out of his mind . . . ( in a cleat light, kind, of the Way) 😊
I am living for the contrast of video meeting production set ups here. It's comedy gold, quaint and extremely endearing
I'm loving the recent influx of various podcasts having Hamilton on. he is just so ugh 👌👌👌🧠
Education is thicc whether it’s school or internet trading cryptocurrency stonks
“Explained away” around 12 mins. I can always spot a McKenna quote
I want to know what substances Hamilton is thinking about taking but hasn't because of potential harm etc...
For me, it's always been Deliriants.
That entire class scares me so much, but I fear my curiosity will get the better of me some day.
If you ever decide to try a deliriant, I suggest starting with an amanita muscaria (fly agaric) extract from a reputable source. It's the only psychoactive substance from that psychopharmacological category I've ever personally tried, but friends have also tried datura and heroic amounts of nutmeg, and I've inferred from their experiences that amanita muscaria is the most "gentle" of common deliriants. However, it's still ludicrously unpredictable as deliriants generally are; my two experiences felt like two entirely different drugs! Be sure to have a sitter.
Also... don't expect it to be "fun". It can certainly be interesting, even fascinating, but it will most likely be unpleasant.
I just absolutely love Hamilton. He's such an amazing human being.
My first encounter with Hamilton Morris. He is fascinating to listen to.
I am a chemist. Hamilton is right everything in nature is chemicals, the problem are xenobiochemicals, chemicals that we created that life does not know (they are new to life forms). I think the chemofobia is developed from a subconscious understanding that these xenobiochemicals are corespsonible for disease development. Which I understand and agree with. Addendum: ALL patented drugs are per definition xenobiochemicals, you cannot patent naturally present chemicals...
This is simply false
The fact that something exists in nature doesn't make it better
Many chemics from plants and animals are very lethal even though they have existed in nature for millions of years.
Many synthetic "new" chemicals have no effect and pass through the body without even interacting with anything
Many synthetic chemicals have postive effects on the body
Just because something is synthetic doesn't change its properties
Synthetic and chemicals made in organisms function according to the same rules
In addition
"Xenobiochemicals" or as they are really called xenobiotics aren't always man made.
If I consume mescaline produced by plants it's also considered xenobiotics since it isn't produced by me and isn't part of my expected uptake.
Edit:I changed "smoked DMT" to "consumed mescaline" since we produce DMT in very small quantities
You smell rubber from a turf? Cancer. Febreeze? Cancer. The problem is practically everything man made is giving us cancer
@@taesonslane2513 the world wants to kill us anyway, theres chemicals that also stop us getting cancer lol, like sunscrean
3:00 - cubane guy's channel is Explosions&Fire
Gonna watch.
Tom from Australia! I love his channel!
Extractions and Ire
Adding this to watch later for sure...!
Hamilton is the MAN!!!!! keep fighting the good fight you wonderful human!
Holy shit that was such a good interview
Hamilton Morris is such a brilliant mind. I would love it if he wrote a book.
And narrated it.
Why don't u write a book?
Exactly. Why don't you write a book or an essay?
As always, Hamilton is well spoken and highly informative. Thank you for your dedication towards understanding psychoactive substances! Cheers from Denmark!
I love this man. Wish there were more great videos like this with him. His 3 tv series were amazing.
Use your computer for your interest! Program! Research! Create! Slow down on the consumption, you will get out of your rut if you put out projects. I know y’all struggling like me with this stuff. Ideas will begin to flow
Got a full pipe of DMT waiting for me. Blast off! Peace and love from scotland.
Have a good one m8. Cheers from Perú.
@@Tommyscooter was amazing brother thanks
These sentences make me jealous and happy
👉🏼🤯👈🏼🌌🌈🌠🕉👌🏼
Love from a fellow Scot and hope you had an awesome trip. I'll be partaking in a 5g mushroom trip on Thursday, first trip of 2021 so I'm excited. ✌
I watch a lot of Hamilton Morris interviews, oftentimes I'm left disappointed because he ends up spending most of his time explaining to the interviewers things he has said a million times before. That was not the case here, you clearly did your research and asked thoughtful questions and provided actually new and interesting talking points. Thanks so much for that!! This is my first time seeing your channel, but I'll definitely check more of it out!