Stock Husqvarna 390xp vs Psy-Ko Stihl 500i
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Filmed in May 2020.
A bad day for the firewood cutter.
Mr. ountinthewood 500i on loan - Thanks!!!
In the subsequent 390/500i/372 video in the channel lineup we watched a slightly modded 390 run about even with the 500i. But,,, the Insane-O SS 372X-Torq steals the show.
Here we take a look at a completely stock 390 vs a Psy-Ko-ized 500i.
I checked the stops afterward. They are running ~ .050.
Looking at the timed runs:
390xp 13,020 wot went 9.77 down and 9.16 up
500i (near as I could tell) 13,080 wot went 7.33 down and 7.16 up
Several seconds of time difference.
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Hello. The firewood cutter had a bad hair day but made it out alive & fished out his saw so it could have been worse. Some dialog on the differential between the way theses two saws function. Thanks for watching.
That 500i is quick to get RPMs up nicely 👌 done
damn the 500i psyko is nasty.....well done jack!!
Love the sound in this video. Feels vintage or like I'm listening to AM radio. I like that. 👍
The 390xp always impresses me. Why they weren't more popular baffles me. As far as a stock saw anywhere above a dolmar 7900, they seem to be the best combination of high rpm/chain speed while still having good bottom end to pull a long bar. Don't get me wrong, I love my 394. It's an animal and it's only mod is a dual port muffler. But realistically, for the 32" bar I have on it with the fact that I basically only have it to be able to #standupandbuck and will likely RARELY get into wood over 24" for my firewood purposes, a 390xp would be PLENTY and actually faster in smaller stuff while being a good pound or more lighter which at the end of the day in a firewood setting it makes a difference. Really, a good running 70cc class saw is about all I can actually justify.
That said, from a production setting, I'm surprised they aren't more popular.
They are one of the most popular saws. Lol
@@hi4429 not out here where I am. I've never seen a local 390xp, yet there are 395s and 660/661s abound. Then the 372 and 440/441 make up a solid chunk of the saws below that with the 460/461 coming in behind them somewhere and there are definitely more of them than the 90cc saws by a wide margin. But I'm east coast. Far and away the 20" bar is the most common here. A 70cc saw runs a 20" bar like a madman through hardwood and can easily fall trees up to 30-35" in a falling standpoint. A 70cc class saw with a 20" bar is far and away the common setup from anyone falling without a feller buncher.
That being said, I'm a long bar fan. With the exception of blocking stove wood on a pile, there's almost zero times it's a hindrance.
I love mine, a big powerful saw but doesn't feel heavy, the balance is great.
I don't need the extra power of a 395 so the 390 ticks the boxes for me. I usually run mine with x 25" 0r 28" bar.
The 592, 500i etc and all well and good but I want a saw i can fix myself.
I have a 572 with the auto tune and hate it compared to my old 365.
My small saw is a 365 special with a 20" bar.
We all know what is going to happen when the 390Xp goes Insane-O SS or Psy-Ko-ized.
Thank you for the video friend. :-)
The only thing that can bet a stock husqvarna saw is the next size up stilh.
I have a couple questions that's not related to the video. I'm putting a cylinder on a ms361 and wondering if stihl calls for locktite on the bolts if they do what kind and can you port a 028 if I just send the cylinder to you?
Evening Jack, do you remember the 385 XP you did for a few years ago, it is quite the saw ! Back to the 500 now for those that would like to know how it's doing it's a great job and it's funny you should mention the weight issue. I'm up near the Northern Irish border this week and the ground is pretty tough so that's where the 500 is a useful saw and as usual in a mixed bag of Spruce and Larch in various sizes. When I got the 500 in stock form I was not underwhelmed but not ready to learn German in tribute to it ! As I said in a video I did on my first thoughts it's a good saw but not great. A few little things like the air filter system and the way it wants to act like a hoover around the airfilter area is a bit poor as are the AV springs. The saw now Jack has done his work is a great saw, when in stock form I felt it was a one trick pony i.e. it went from tick over to flat out fast but hit a knot or included branch and it didn't stall but did come back down so now it's a power house through out the rev range, thanks Jack for a great job and as I asked a everyday saw that can when asked step up !
Dave - what, 10/12 years ago? "Kinda"... Glad you liked it!
Learn German,,, lol.
That saw has it's place. I think every arborist should have one.
I did my best to make it a good faller's saw. Agreed on the spongy feel to it. Stihl® engineering missed the mark there for sure.
Seems as though you are well pleased at it's performance now, thankfully!!!
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Dag blasted "largely peaceful"🔥 saw comparison protesters! 😊
That 500I. Wow
So what was that that was sqeaking while the 500i was idling....bearing?clutch? I still enjoy my 390s....so I used to have my saws ported....and port my own...a mild port job is okay...I like my saws to last since I use them for a living...the other day I ran a 500i a guy in a strip over from me let me try his new saw....its okay but still not overly impressed with the M tonic crap...so I heard at our local saw shop that Stihl is bringing back 661 with no M tronic putting on the older ignition system?? You hear that too? Again enjoy your videos. Shoe
Shoe hi
I'm mostly deaf these days....
I've cut millions with the 390 platform.
I run radically built saws the most part.
Not to many problems.
A few videos back I showed one of the "new" 661 standards vs Mr. Greens 660.
Longevity, Mix Oil Mix Oil Mix Oil. The single biggest operator input factor.
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That non auto tune 661 is called a
651. Same as 661 but carbureted. I don’t think it’s for sale in USA.
Horsepower is rated like 2 or 3 tenths less but oh well, no dealer needed to fix a computer problem.
@@TonaldDrump686 Oh okay thank you for the info...I have heard people mention a 651 didn't know what they were talking about.
Robert & Deleted - the standard wrap handle version "661", in this country anyway, is called the ms661 Magnum. It has the same bore & stroke numbers - 56mm x 37mm - as the ms661c-mr. "c" meaning features, "m" meaning m-tronic, and "r" meaning wrap handle.
There was a saw that some guys on my crew tested around '04. It ended up being the ms650. It was a downsized bore ms660. The diameter was 52mm. This essentially made the saw an "064" since the bore and stroke numbers of the ms650 & 064 are 52mm x 40mm.
I'm unclear on where the 651 came from. This saw has ms661 on the recoil housing placard.
Unfortunately, the "651" moniker is not accurate.
Also, both version 661s are carbureted.
The Magnum has an unlimited coil and a carb with adjustable high & low speed needles. The M-tronic version had the control module, also limited but more advanced functionality wise, signaling a fuel metering servo bolted into the side of the carb body. The servo meters the fuel based on the speed of the flywheel (read crank) through a fuel map stored in the control module.
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@@hotsaws101 That makes sense...used 064s back in the 90s and had a 661 Mag..in the early 2000s...thanks for clarifying that yes never heard of a 651....
Jack. 500i zipped vs 461 torque monster? Who comes out on top?
Be interesting to hear
Hell Yeah !
Any buzz out there on the new 5 series 90cc class Husqvarnas? Supposedly getting new 90cc class models...
Tired Iron hi. Typical, of late anyway, Husky being out of touch. WAY portly. Just like overengineering in the Stihl camp, you can get over built like what we see in the Husqvarna regime.
Take a look at the 550 Mark ll. Gains .7 of a pound and now is physically the same size as a 562 - Wait What???
I recently talked to a Husky rep. It was about a lot of things. Toward the end, he rattled off that the 572 was his personal saw and it was a great saw. This was after I mentioned the reintroduction of the 372xt since the 572 sales are mediocre at best. He then proceeded to say that his 572 cut the same as a 500i. That it cuts great, great saw, yadda yadda. I let it go for about 45 seconds. I then circled back and definitively explained that they ABSOLUTELY do not run and/or cut the same. And that the 572 barely keeps up with the 462. I then touched on the 572's over weight issue comparatively.
Needless to say, I'm not considered a new BFF...
Pardon my little tirade. Been talking to the Husky guys for YEARS about more power and a little less weight. Go figure..
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Through some old school saws in.. 036 lightning or 038 mag
Stephan hi. I posted a few videos of an 038 2½ or 3 years ago.
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@@hotsaws101 thanks for the info.. grew up on the old saws.
STIHL
Instead of using the dogs why not float the bar level down through the wood?
Lorric Logging hi.
Sometimes it nice to dawg a saw in. I did , as near as a mere mortal is capable of, it the same to both.
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I'll take the husky all day long
392 is still a nasty saw even stock
Deadwood
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Well done, you must be so proud, your medal is in the post 🥇👏😉🙂
@@jahpedro3971 Thanks for the reply. It really helps this great channel!
@@andrewwhalen25 love this channel no bs straight to the point 😁
Hopefully that wasn't your vehicle....
Shoe hi. Nope. A firewood cutter's rig unfortunately. He & his saw escaped unscathed thankfully.
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@@hotsaws101 yes good to hear no one was hurt...