Sharpen The Worst Bench Chisel Imaginable in Less Than 1 Minute!
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- The Taytools Drill Press Chisel Sharpening System is the most cost effective and efficient sharpening approach available. It can restore a razor-sharp edge on very abused chisels and block plane blades in less than 60 seconds. It can replace a host of much more expensive bench grinders, belt sanders, honing guides, strops and/or sharpening stones.
Get yours here - limited stock: lddy.no/1fr8c
Free plans for the jig are emailed with every Drill Press Sharpening System purchase
0:00 Intro
0:50 How it works
1:22 How long does it take?
2:10 Results
2:44 Honing
3:34 Results
4:00 Performance
I used mine yesterday, and sharpened about 15 chisels in maybe 15 minutes. Some were damaged to begin with. I was skeptical using such low grit sandpaper, but I gotta say every chisel came out really sharp and ready to use. Maybe not 8000 grit waterstone sharp as some of the trolls here point out, but my wood couldn't tell the difference. Tip: you'll need to rinse off some of the metal shavings after a few chisels as the sand paper loads up. It comes right out. I may try lapping fluid next time so the shavings don't accumulate.
So good to hear the system is working for you. Like I've said, I sharpoened at least 200 chisels before I launched the system. Enjoy sharpness.
lol, this "troll" will gladly wear that moniker if just one craftsman is made. Your statement bout the 8000 grit tells me a lot about your products. I offer you a challenge. Take the time to sharpen two identical tools, use 8000 grit as well as the gimmick. Then use them as they are intended and then compare the end results. I think you will be quite surprised.
This is practically how I've been sharpening my chisels for a very long time.
Instead of the "Back and forth" so called traditional way that so many use. I go "side to side" and get fantastic results.
Love it!!
Thanks for bringing this to us. Looks very quick and efficient.
It really works. I now sharpen chisels for fun and entertainment. All my friends have sharp chisels.
A guy will get tips and tricks all the time as he rambles down the Path. Now this ones worth putting in the Repertoire. Good content my man!
Thank you for listining to my "ramblings"
Smart system. Tay tools is great for sharpening accessories. I have two of their float glass plates and diamond & AO lapping sheets that i use on them and will give you a sharp edge beyond anything you've ever experienced.
This new system you showed in the video, i really like. Very ingenious and makes sharpening easy, quick and consistent.
I think I'm going to have to grab one of those acrylic discs for the drill press.
I think you will love it.
I love this. So glad I held off on buying a more expensive tormek or worksharp
You will love it. I've completely switched to this method for sharpeing my chisels.
Guess I’m not going to need a bench grinder, now.
Amazing!
That's the point!!
A friend, noted woodturner Eric Lofstrom, dulled his skew chisel on the lathe bed, took it to a 60 grit CBN wheel, reshaped the bevel, then stropped it. It peeled off arm hair in one pass. Stropping is essential. I still would take it to higher grit abrasives.
You're definitely stepping up your thumbnail game!
Thx.
How did you not cry hitting that amazing chisel with a hammer!!!😢
Amazing sharpening system!!
It was hard at first, but now it's pretty easy knowing how quick I can repair.
I've done it now 100 times and ground off a full inch of chisel. 😂
@@MikeTaylorToolworks
Can’t wait to try mine out, it just shipped today!
It was painful at first but says going in the end when it came out razor sharp.
Just built my two jigs today 25 and 30 degree, then sharpened three chisel sets in very short time. Best sharpening system I’ve ever used. Quick and precise.
Where did you find the plans for the jig
Great work!
Keep Rockn' In It, Not Of It !
ROCK HARD 👍
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thanks for your idea
You are welcome.
Well, that's about the coolest diy sharpening rig I've seen. Tormek be damned!
Thanks
At least the tormek or the wen clone are water cooled and won't heat up the metal of the object being sharpened.
@@bwillan He seems to be able to hold it with bare hands so less than 60°C. No chance of ruining the metal on so low temp.
@@bwillan it doesn't heat up. Watch again.
i had a work sharp that was pretty much the same thing it worked great and super easy like a couple seconds and super sharp again, though the one we had wasnt as aggressive it didnt have sparks shooting out
That 8o grit Cubitrin is pretty aggressive
Thanks so much for sharing this great sharpening method!
My pleasure
Such a great idea.
Thx😀
Thx
Those went quick. Had to order two singles, but still worth it. Now I got extra consumables.
We'll have more in about 3 weeks. Sorry we ran out.
@@miketaylor9979 No worries man. People don't mind waiting a little longer for better stuff. Especially when it's something you can't get someplace else. You keep innovating and sourcing unique products and I'll keep buying.
Back in stock for the moment..
When I get a drill press, I will pick one up.
Check your local auction sites. Used equipment can sometimes be had at great prices.
Yeah this is awesome. Sold out but hopefully back in stock soon!
Back in stock in a few weeks.
@@TaylorToolworks THank you!
Back in stock now.
Hi, this came at the right time as I was about to buy a different sharpening system. Placed my order and looking forward to receiving it. Hoping it doesn't take too long to get to Australia. Thank you.
Well get one out right away. 😂
You'll love it
that jig is the star of the show
I agree.
@@TaylorToolworks my wife bought this for my birthday but she can't find the free plans for the jig. Can I get some help please?
This looks fantastic. It works like the Work Sharp 3000 but only costs a 10% of it's price and is very fast, thats pretty insane.
It is insane and it really works.
This is great!
What I love is how all it takes is 80, 220, and stropping.
So why does the kit have so many different grits? How about just including more of those in the kit?
Just want to provide options - some may have other/different needs from the system.
looks so cool and I am really considering to buy it. I have a question - can you sharpen with this system the hand plane blade as well?
Looks great. How wide a surface would you say is practical? Is this just for chisels or could we also sharpen plane blades? Thanks!
Maybe this has been done before but I surely haven’t seen anything like this!
Not a completely new concept but we're offering everythign you need in one complete package.
Awesome 🙌👍👌😊
Thx
Where do get the disk? You really helped me to know how easy it is to sharpen a chisel. Very good idea. You are a smart man. Thank you a lot.
We have the discs made and will have some back in stock in a few weeks.
I've bought the system Any chance of you doing a video on making the jig. It seems straight forward from the instructions. But as they say a picture paints a thousand words. Thanks
This is good.
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I'm intrigued! You got a sale from me.
The only thing more painful than watching you hammer the end of a nice chisel is my bad sharpening memories. I'm giving this kit a serious look, and look forward to easy sharpening.
I was had the first time but got easier when I knew I could sharpen in a minute.
You have you a winner! I use chisels a lot in my shop. I can sharpen them relatively easy and fast. Your system sharpens in seconds my way takes about 15 minutes if the chisel is in bad shape and I am not sure it does as good a job as your method?
Fast. Easy. And, no, I'm no shill. I really just wanted my chisels sharp without a lot of fuss and muss. Chisel sharpening isn't really how I want to spend my weekend. This sharpened my Gersick, Narex, and some antique wood chisels in less time than it took to write this review. Mine ended up at about 26 degrees (my adjustment, not the system's). Doesn't matter whatsoever. This system works really well. To the purists out there... *shrug*, hey, it works.
So good to hear it's working out
you get obsessives/purists in all fields.. When i did photography - you needed Canon/Nikon/Leica (ad nauseam) or you need 75Mega Pixels or for even more purists - roll film.. It got to the point where no one talked about the photographs but the equipment - the resulting image was secondary! No I don't want to spend weekends sharpening tools either - I have other things to do and friends. If it works for you that is all that matters.
What determines if 25 or 30 degree ramp is used? Building the jig soon and have no idea which angle I should build for the ramp. I purchased a set of Narex chisels from you. Thank you!!!
I have received mine 3 weeks ago!
Enkoy😀
Very quick, yes. Thanks for the duration times for sharpening. This was a great opportunity to show before & after effectiveness. You only used the sharpness tester and the paper-cutting on the freshly sharpened chisel -only after, not before. Hitting it with a hammer or filing it would reduce its sharpness, but how much.
It is a cool rig. I'll have to watch the build video. Thanks.
With the file he has shown that it no longer bites the fingernail. And after the hammer it would be around the same sharpness as a butter knife.
Thanks
@@ABaumstumpf But it's the consistency that's missing here, I can see no reason to not run the test, what's the point of getting a baseline number and then arbitrary chosing when to test, it starts at 85 hits with hammer, sharpness now unknown, resharpened to 81 then dulled with a file, sharpness not known again or "pretty dull" , resharpened (touchup) , now lets test on endgrain. its like comparing apples to oranges to coconuts, and to me and therefore useless
@@chrism3847 I am a home user not knowing much about these things, but appreciate how keenly you watched the video and how he skipped the 'tests ' many times.
Everyone has his views and I feel that manual sharpening is the best because it gives far more control and that 'natural' feel. Like a screwdriver. The twists and turns give a 'feel' of accuracy that not the most sophisticated machine will give.
Will add the pre test next time
Would you recommend this for hand plane blades, too? Is there a maximum width blade it can handle?
I got so excited when I saw this video that I also ordered mine right away. Do you have any suggestions for what RPM to use on the drill press?
Mine was running at about 500 - I wouldn't go over 600.
Excellent question!!! I have the same question about speed
@@johnbies7041 The manual says use a maximum speed of 600RPM
What a great idea. I need to go measure my Worksharp 3000. Cubitron on that thing would be killer. My Taytools cart keeps getting bigger...
Yes the cubitron is a game changer. You'll just have to cut a hole in the middle of the discs. No problem, just don't use your wife's good kitchen knife. Lol😂
Would I have any trouble using this system on a Bosch PBD 40? It's a relatively small drill press but it can run at the recommended speed.
It looks like a really nice system.
I am curious about the choice of countries you are not shipping to as about 150 countries are excluded (the world has 190 or so). I am in France for example and appart from the UK, most (all?) other European countries are excluded from your shipping destinations. What stops you? Thanks.
How is the secondary bevel created? When stropping?
i bought one of these kits and am having some trouble with sharpening a scrub plane iron. do you have any helpful pointers on how to get a camber with this system? I can't find anything useful on youtube or reddit relating to cambered irons with this system. Thank you in advance.
Damn. I had this idea
Very cool. Can this reliably be used to flatten the back of chisels?
If it's not done correctly, it can severely damage your chisel - if done correctly it's very fast and efficient. There's a downloadable manual that's sent to you when you purchase the system, and it does walk you through how you can flatten the back of it using the system. However, you can also use the PSA Cubitron discs stuck to a flat, hard surface (like a table saw or granite plate) and flatten your chisels on that rather than on a rotating disc.
I was going to buy the deluxe system, sadly it's out of stock. Hope it comes back soon, I will keep an eye out for it!
We'll have more in stock in about 3 weeks.
Back in stock now.
@@MikeTaylorToolworks thanks for reminding me. I just put in the order! Cheers!
I bought the leather disc how do you attach it to a disc?
I've never seen one of those sharpness-measuring scales before. I know you said 81 is very sharp, but i'm wondering what an "average" or "decent" score would be?
Just assembling mine now, and it occurred to me to use the 1" hole in the as-yet unmounted leather stropping disk to mark a 1" hole on the backs of ALL the kit's Cubitron disks BEFORE they're used.
Nice idea. I need to put that in the manual.
Very nice! 81 on bess is SCREAMING sharp! It doesn't get sharper than that. If you take your chisel anywhere to get sharpened they they won't be able to do any better. Also, 99% of professional sharpeners will use a dry machine of some kind because water is a mess and they can't make money sharpening by hand.
I have the work sharp 2000 system and the 3m discs and strop are a perfect fit as replacements, so I ordered everything but the acrylic discs and arbors. Do you have a catalog? All of my purchases from you have been in response to social media videos.
Thanks for the ordrer. Those items will be a serious upgrade for the Worksharp. We do not have a catalog, just our website. SOrry about that.
It looks like it might be good for lawn mower blades too if another jig was made.
Great sharpening system instance subscriber what's the degree of angle on that jig for sharpening? Thank you great job.
I use 25 degrees for chisels and 30 for slicks and Mortise chisels.
25 degrees
where are the plans for the jig?
Really fast method 👍 have you noticed the sparks travelling on your bench 3:24 😳😳
Yes, there are some sparks that you need to be cautious about.
Hey Mike - bought your system, need to still build the jig. Couple of things, did either James H. or JKM do a video featuring this as well? Not finding? Also, doe you make the secondary bevel on the strop portion?
I invented the and Noone else has done a video.
Amazing! Going to order this but I wanted to ask a dumb question first, this would work with a hand plane blade, right?
That is an excellent question actually
My package of 3M Cubitron says not for use on disk sander (which turns out to mean stationary/bench disk sander); it works fine on ROS, but didn't stand up to much use on the bench sander. If you use very light pressure and move the work around, the disc lasts longer, but definitely not as long as ROS use.
I have reground 30 very damages 2" plane irons on one 80x disc and honed 100 chisels on one 220 disc. Tee discs will last a very long time.
@@miketaylor9979 You did a 2" plane? The description on the item page states, "baldes up to 1-1/2" in width" (though it's probably blades, not baldes :) ). Did you need to use the 6" in disc for that?
I did grind 2 inch blades to test the endurance of the discs. I have found a way to grind a super straight edge on wider blades. I grind the primary bevel using 80 grit and then use our chisel back sharpening kit and a honing guide to grind a 30 degrees secondary bevel using 320 grit. I then use the leather disc to hone to razor sharp.
I found out the hard way on Christmas that a really sharp chisel gets real deep into your hand when you slip. Mistakes were definitely made.
I once dropped a newly sharpened chisel and reached out to grab it. I have a nice scar on my palm.
@@TaylorToolworks Yeah, I have trained myself to not try to catch pointy and or sharp things.
In my case tho, my chisel was a 1" chisel and cut over 1" wide and 1/4" deep in between my thumb and index, right where the thumb flexes in. I shouldve gotten stitches.
You do international shipping? And do you guys make a package that have everything, the jig and the two sand papers etc etc?
You can find which places we don't ship to here: taytools.com/policies/shipping-policy
You can get it all at once, however it's currently sold out. We're working to get more in stock quickly, so make sure you click the "email when available" option in the listing to be notified when it's back: lddy.no/1fr8c
@@TaylorToolworks it's sad you guys don't ship to 70% of the world Not Europe nor Africa, USPS ships worldwide, you should check a deal and they are much cheaper than DHL, FedEx and UPS
Can the jig be adapted for plane irons, or is there an issue with the radius of the discs vs. the width of the plane irons?
This system is great for narrower chisels and block plane blades but when grinding the wider plane blades I found I was not able to get the edge perfectly straight withing one thou or so. My #4 smoother needs an edge that is within that spec especially when I'm taking thin one thou shavings. So unfortunately, this may not be the way to hone smoothing blades.
No issue with that. The issue I ran into was that with 2 inch and wider blades the edge was out a thou or two, not good for a smoother. The hack was to put on a secondary bevel at 30 degrees on 400 grit cubitron and the move to the strop. Got a dead nuts straight and razor sharp edge.
So you sell the disks but not the jig which is giving you the correct angle on the sharpen? Or did I miss that on your site? Thanks!
Yes you need to make your own jig.
Seems fast, but you might be drawing out the temper from the metal near the tip where the metal is the thinnest. Do your chisels stay sharp or do you find that you have to resharpen often?
Wouldn't it be the same as with a grinder where as long as you have your finger on the blade and it doesn't get too hot for your finger to touch you'll be good to go?
Actually the Cubitron discs slice through steel and do not create much heat. You can actually touch the tip and it's not that hot. The temper is not taken from the steel.
It would be helpful if a link to your sharpening jig was included!
We email a link to download the plan for the jig when a system is purchased😃
Wanted to give an update: We made it available for everyone. There's a link in the listing where you can download it now.
So cool to see you make changes based on feedback. Kudos.
Where I can find this sanders ;link;
When will you have more it says sold out😢
Maybe a dumb question, but why is it offered in two sizes (5" & 6")?
I purchased just now! I want to know if there is a way to use this system to possibly convert plane blades to scrub plane
That'd be a bit of work but could be done with the right jig. Using the cubitron would definitely save tons of time and eliminate the risk of losing the temper in your steel.
Could I sharpen my hand plane irons on this? And when do you think this will be back in stock?
Yes you can but it takes a special touch. You can refresh your primary bevel but need to add a secondary bevel with 400 grit and then move on to the strop. Doing it this was gets a dead nuts straight edge. They are back in stock for the moment.
Saw your last vid and purchased the worksharp glass disc but had some issues on runout due to using bolt and a rubber washer, do you know if your arbor would work for that disc and correct runout?
Yes, the machined arbors have much less runout.
It is much better than a bolt arbor.
Would you recommend this system for other edges like kitchen and pocket knives? I don’t own any shapening jigs or systems at the moment. My current go to is a variety of sand papers on my wife’s flattest cutting board, a stone or two, and a strop for most all my sharpening needs. Would this work for blades if I made a jig to accommodate the longer edges?
Not really designed for kitchen knives. More for straight edge tools.
No
Holy moly I have no more excuse for dull chisels, which are all but the one I sharpened so I could use it! Oil stones are a chore!
This is no chore
Could you sharpen a 2'' hand plane with the 6'' disc?
Yes.
I have an old small craftsman drill press and it doesn’t have very much power. Will this work?
Yes, but will grind more slowly.
Nice set up. Any chance you can sell the jig too?
Probably not at this time. It's really easy to make though.
Nice jig, do you have planes on it?
A detailed set of plans comes free with every purchase. Very easy to make.
Is it possible to use this set without a drillpress? I cant come up with anything thatll work
You can get a table-top drill press for a reasonable amount - it would still be cheaper going that route than the other chisel sharpening systems out there.
I was going to buy but Ireland isn't listed in the shipping options, a pity.
We stopped shipping to Ireland due to too many lost pacakge. Sorry about that.
Is there an alternative to buy in Europe😢😢
Would this work for planer blades?
Would you recommend a 25 degree jig and a 30 degree?
My concern is this system would overgrind the tool
I can't guarantee this would work with anything over 1-1/2". I'd say no for plane blades.
I grind chisels to 25 and slicks and Mortise chisels to 30 degrees. I've tested with plane blades and I can regrind the primary bevel super fast with 80 grit. I found that I could not get a consistently perfectly straight edge on my plane blades. Remember, I need my smoother blades within thou of straight. I could get them really close but not perfect so that's why I recommend this system for chisels and Block plane blades.
You only need something like this if you are damaging irons. Regular frequent honing will keep you as sharp, faster, and with less wear. Anything between 25 and 30 on a chisel or iron is fine, a freehand camber is probably easier that try into get 2 perfect bevels.
I just found a hack to sharpen wider blades. I grind the primary bevel to 25 degrees and then hone a 30 degree secondary bevel using a honing guide on a 320 grit disc and then go to the leather disc. This produces a straight sharp edge.
thanks for sharing. i think marketing would have been improved if you checked sharpness after dulling the blade
Good point. We're planning to rerun it with a more accurate picture of before and after.
@@TaylorToolworks this looks awesome!
Oh man, Mike. It's almost *physically* painful to watch you whacking a sharp Narex Richter with a hammer. But of course.. very impressive and effective video.
It used to make me cringe but now that I can restore on so easily it is not big deal. Actually, I like it becaue I get to resharpen. I've never liked sharpening so much as I so now. Never thought I'd say that.
Painful yes. But satisfying.
Is it pretty important to have a pretty straight drill press for this?
If your jig is parallel with the disc, you'll be fine
@@TaylorToolworks I think he’s referring to a wobble in the spinning axel. My drill press was abused and has a wobble. Not an issue?
I noticed that you offer 5" and 6" options. Why would someone go with one vs. the other?
Can this be used to sharpen kitchen knives (with a different jig)?
I wouldn't recommend it
@@TaylorToolworks Thank you for the quick reply. May I ask why?
I go a totally different route with kitchen knives. Get a cheap 1 x 30 Harbor Freight belt grinder and add a 1 x 30 leather belt loaded with white compound. I lay my grinder on it's back, which feels better for me, and you can easily hone an entire drawer of knives in a few minutes. Works really great on serrated blades too.
@@egbluesuede1220 Yes, that's what I do now. My hope was that this would allow high precision setting and maintaining of angles with very little heating. I use angle guides on the HF grinders but they often block access to the heel of the blade due to the placement of the knife handles. It's very frustrating because I like to deliver a perfect ly uniform edge to the customer. Any suggestions are most welcome.
Sold out. When will more kits be back in stock?
Sign up to get an email as soon as they're back in stock - It'll be fairly soon.
Back is stock now.
@@MikeTaylorToolworks just ordered! Thanks
I was a little bothered when you wrecked that lovely chisel.... but that was pretty cool!
It is hard to do at first, but not so much now knowing how easy it is to repair. When I did that in front of our local woodworking guild, I heard numerous gasps in the audience.
Painful but satisfying
You just sold me on the system and a drill press 😂
😂 Even with the drill press, it's still cheaper than a lot of sharpening systems out there!
@@TaylorToolworks absolute facts 💯💯💯
Are you using the 5 or 6" disk?
The 6"
Do you guys ship outside of the U.S?
We do but to select countries. We've had really bad luck shipping to some place with lots of lost packages so had to cancel some countries.
Do you guys sell 6" PSA sample packs? Just measured my WS3000 and its a 6" disc.
Unfortunately we don't have any sample packs for the 6"
We just got in 6 inch sample packs
@@MikeTaylorToolworks thanks Mike. I already bought a couple of 5-packs. Now you need to talk 3M into making the higher grits! They work great on the 3000
Well, this is amazing! Shame it’s out of stock already.
We're working hard to get more in stock soon - make sure you click the "email when available" option to be notified when they're back
How about for plane irons?
So I’ve spent a good while sharpening 2" and 2-3/8" plane blades. The system makes short work of grinding the primary bevel. What I found was the edge was a few thousandths out of straight. This was due to the abrasive discs at differing parts of the disc wearing at different rates. The outer perimeter would wear faster than the inner portion. This left the abrasive at slightly different heights in different parts of a disc, so the edge left was not perfectly straight. Now, this is not a problem with narrower chisels or block plane blades, but for smoothing planes that take one thou thick shaving this presented a problem. I messed with this for a long time and found I could not get an edge on a wider blade withing a two thousandths of an inch. My recommendation is to use the system for chisels up to 1-1/2” wide, block plane blades, spoke shave blades, etc.
How is the paper attached to the wheels?
They're PSA (Sticky-back) sanding discs, so they stick all on their own! For the circular leather strop, we have tape included in the kit.
Ok- read your website- PSA...
When will they be back in stock??
It's looking like it will be 2-3 weeks. We're trying to get it as fast as we can!
Back is stock.
Already out of stock 😢 when you have more available??
About 3 weeks - They sold out fast, so we'll make sure to have a better stock of them next time around.
@@TaylorToolworks I'll try to remember to check back
no french shipping :'( why !!!
Watching you hit that chisel with a hammer actually hurt my feelings a little
It used to hurt mine until I found it could re sharpen in a minute.
Hurt mine too but oh so satisfying when I could sharpen in a minute.