the problem is america is not china and thats kinda where it ends this is not the action game thinking about rpg games like devil may cry we were waiting for back playing lineage 2 in 2007, the game is very chinese and only people in china play wow, im not surprised its for china, i dunno man aion still makes more sense but until games get playerbases over 100 i dunno wat to even ask them to do everything is for profit, much rather play tabula rasa but i dunno atleast ncsoft released blade and soul and its not like some ashes of creation cash grab, aion is still up after 15 years in western audience being a "dead game" im happy that atleast i can see the things i grind years for still accessible even if theres no playerbase, gw2 bns was never really my thing but its bringing in money for the company, maybe one day they use the money to make a game i do care about, hopefully not wildfall wow clone. blizzard got all that money and they never even made anything nor was wow even interesting to begin with, people would rather play runescape then wow type of stupid, even then its not like i was payign the money for everquest but there were better free options, 20 years later and nothings changed, also what happened to korean action mmos there use to be ton of trailer but apparently their all playing dumb western games now
Thanks for having me on! Here's to hoping NCSoft delivers on a Global Release - might have to wait another 6 months before we get any information though 🙃 Looking back there's some stuff I missed so if anyone has any questions feel free to reply to me here and I'll do my best to answer them! Thanks again to Kanon for the opportunity!
i never played the original - when you say junghado is who we're gonna have to grind for bis gear, does this include the pve "gear minmaxing" you're referring to later in the video or are there like enhancement systems in place that require other content? thanks in advance, great video guys
@@v-ia Junghado is the main grind behind getting "True Legendary Weapon" - the grind which will take 6 weeks and also your main source of Insignia upgrades as a F2P; both 2 big upgrades but the rest of your BiS gear comes from doing the latest dungeons and hoping to roll the correct stats at the end. With the new system they have in place when you get an Accessory at the end of a dungeon as long as your roll the skills you want and the substat you want the only thing you'd do to upgrade it from there is maybe infuse a Psyche (just additional rng stats) other than that you're basically just set - no upgrades on any of the weapons/accessories you drop after that.
@@captainslapahoe9540 Funny story about this, on release they restricted Arena to lv45 (Lvl Cap was 36 on CN release) which was fair enough, kinda understandable... so anyway they increased the Lvl Cap to 45 after a few weeks and the same patch they did that they also restricted Arena to lv46. This was like, 3-4 months ago - still no news about Arena and the Chinese community are fuming about it yet they don't answer anything concerning this. I also played the Beta test for Blade and Soul NEO Classic and Arena was available then... except it wasn't gear balanced; so PVE players and whales were the top ranked players. I'd be living in Arena if it was available; I'm not even that big of a fan of 6v6 😂
if I hear that is at least less p2w than before, and not being able to buy equipment with real money, I might give it a try, otherwise, I really hope they let it die, or give it to someone else who really can appreciate the gameplay and the idea behind the game.
@@CALAMlTY_ I mean...the game itself was really awesome at the start,but the stupid changes and the lack of care for the game its what brought its ruin.
As much as I would like this project to succeed, I just don't see it ending up any different than the original release. Maybe I will join the fun for the first few months for nostalgia.
9:35 oh the Junghado guy - I remember this one from when I pretty much started playing (I started at eu launch). I wasn't particularly good, didn't have properly upgraded weapon and accessories so I had barely enough dps to kill the guy before enrage by stealth cheesing him as assassin. Now the reason I remember this guy is that I got his hat as a drop on a second kill - my assassin never took off that hat to this day!
The Chinese server monetization model might not be what Neo Classic launches with, but it looks like the grim inevitability. I would love to be wrong. Awakening is definitely when the game got squashed. I remember the day it dropped, all of my arena friends were disgusted it became "CC and one-shot," and neutral game just disappeared. People who only had interest in the equalized PvP content just dropped the game entirely right then. The monetization from that point on got way more aggressive as well. I remember I was always roughly able to keep up with the whales, outside of gems. But eventually it got to a point where people could max out their PvP gear the day a new weapon came out through trove alone, not stepping foot in PvP a single time. Meanwhile, obtaining those gear upgrades was time-gated through gameplay, as 6v6 only popped at certain hours. Spending money was just so much stronger than spending time, that while it discouraged F2P and low-spending players, it surely bored the whales just the same.
I love Tera but they killed it and there is no care given when it was still alive, both Tera and BnS got the abandoned child treatment and just became a cosmetic cash cow.
This guy is 100% correct Awakening killed the game along with some of the hongmoon updates that severely unbalanced the game and made some of the classes trash in arena. I was Diamond PvP player NA/ JP & TW on 5+ classes and the hongmoon skills killed most classes before Awakening even came out. If they dont address that, this release will be trash also which is sad because to this day there has been no game with skill based PvP that comes even close to OG BnS.
The game with better pvp that BnS was Aion. they had a better pvp imo. Even the flying pvp was lit. Was by far the best pvp game I ever played, I would put BnS in second when it comes to pvp. But that was all the game had.
This looks good overall. I dont like the accessory giving random skill effects. Not sure what they were thinking with that. But just looks like an roulette sink It looks mostly like vanilla BNS, which I personally think is a really bad thing, Because it may just be foreshadowing for the already set in stone path of BNS, and that is when Pet Aura, Soul gems and trinkets come into the game, everything will turn into diluted stat sticks and you just no brain the entire game once again. We must avoid that at all costs, and I can only hope the developers realize this
So over the 20+ years of playing games, NCSoft acquiring an ip has always been a bad thing. Really dont know why devs continue to sell out to them. Really wish they would disappear or another publisher supersedes them.
China usually has really hard monetisation , they can somehow even make it more p2w than Korea. So i wouldn't expect the monetisation in Global to be the same . I know the Korean server has been out for awhile too so it would be interesting to compare how different China and Korea monetisation are for Neo Classic
I loved this game. In my opinion, no other mmo came close to the pvp in this game. I have fond memories of my lightning blade master. Such a badass class! I once won a 3v1. I dont think l will ever forget that moment, l was in the zone! Edit: The guy playing blademaster in the vid sucks. Its painful to watch, who uses pierce for dps? He should have maintained draw stance for dps. I cant help but criticize :)
Oh, I also had such a case when my allies died and I alone as a warlock killed three axes.. THAT WAS SO WILD, MY HEART HAS NEVER BEATEN LIKE THIS ❤ (I win)
lmao, at the time that was the highest dps build on NEO. with all due respect don't talk with confidence about something you have no real understanding of.
GET ON BNSPVP!!! but neo looks visually nice compare to ue4 retail and the skill visuals look very crisp, I just wish they didn't turned bns into a gacha aspect game...
My gamer's scar was touched. I guess they'd better to not release it on global at all than making some attempts which are basically the same scheme as always: to give up on balancing stuff and caring about the game and just milk the game to death with endless gear progression systems stacking up on each other.
This is the game I enjoyed way back it was on small private servers. It took a while to get it released on the west. But it finally did released I enjoy this game very much that I spent atleast close to $4k. The first 5 months of its release in the West was a blast. As months pass by they keep adding more and more P2W elements to where I can no longer sustain my spending habits n was ruining the experience for me with everything from the rng drop rate on this game is soo low. Plus the increase cost of P2W elements was just too much for me. I also had a guild member who was a bigger whale than me who had spent over $6k total in everything. But we all moved to BDO instead right after.
The pvp was so good. I was a top 5% player with multiple classes and 200 ping. Yeah i was a beast. If they make a server here i totaly would play, one of the best pvps ever. But the awakening sh it the bed hard.
Looks like a fun game, when it comes to the p2w aspect like it'd be better if it weren't the case. But "p2w" has become such a normal thing nowadays with f2p MMOs that I honestly don't care too much anymore. Especially in this case where it doesn't seem mandatory, just speeds up the process to getting what you can naturally get through playing the game. So long as the game plays well, I can still earn those things regardless of the amount of time it takes, and I can set up pseudo-controller support or if the game has native controller support(even better) then I'm happy.
you are just forgeting that before you get that gear regardless of the amount of time, the gear progression happens for a stronger gear, and you will never get there, you will always be spending your time trying to get the gear and never being able to. Unless the game die like it did and people be crying to have at least 1 person to play with.
@@joshuaSand3rs I'm well aware, and I enjoy grinds so at the end of the day it's a win win, and usually that same "old endgame gear" is still viable for awhile with content as is anyways it just isn't "the best" in that current period. I'll never understand people who jump into a MMO and dislike grinds. If ya want an MMO-lite with little to no grind then just play FFXIV. I play XIV just to do raids alone, idc for the gearing aspect there. Is a good side MMO to play while you delve into other games. To each their own tho
NCSoft always kill their own games with bad updates/expansions. I have played so many NCSoft games, and they were all so good, best memory was Lineage 2, but NCSoft killed it when they released The Kamael, Aion was also INSANE, but they killed that too with a really shitty expansion and game died. BnS was really good too, until it NCSoft killed it with shit updates.
When it was said that "awakening" broke the game - it touched me. Definitely so, I don't think that this game is so dependent on donations, considering that there is an arena and it is balanced. By the way, I also think that the classes after the warlock/chi are not very good, especially those after the gunners And original graphic/ui are best orz It looks ancient, but that's the point, I think. It was so atmospheric game.
Even if you buy a gear it is usable for the pve content not the pvp aspect of the game when u pvping in to the arena all share the same gear score. That's a balance in to pvp world tou can actually show some skill this way.
I really am looking forward to this, because I enjoyed this game so much in 2016-17 it was sooooo fun. And the footage of Neo Classic really looks like it was back in the game just better graphics which im really excited for.
The P2W wasn't what killed the game, but it was the final nail in the coffin for me. Retail had so many issues (optimization being my #1 issue), that the P2W seemed even more aggregious. "All these problems? Why am I paying for this shit?" - that's when I quit in 2018.
i kinda love p2w game so whale can carries us :) But the only bad thing is in pvp aspect. That why i love Dragon nest (old mmo) Because they seperated between skill base pvp and geared base pvp ;) Idk why new mmo not implement this :(
i think it pure copium that hes saying p2w is not what killed it ncsoft stopped caring when they killed it with p2w it was always p2w but u still can keep up a f2p player but they got greedy and more greedy and nerfed and removed any meaningful way to progress as free 2 play player so either u p2w and join ht whales or quite the game or accept the fact that u gonna be stock with story gear for the rest of your life and the only gear push u get is when they remove the gear u are in so u automatically get pushed to the tier above
Yeah, I'd return to retail after a month, if they kept chinese P2W version of BnS. But I'm also a fashion player, so the game could at least have a transmog system, because that way at least you could mix and match existing outfit pieces, better than rereleasing the same game with same outfits that existed in retail for years. And wow, I knew there's gonna be a catch when they said you wont need to level up your gear. I'm not a minmaxer, since thats a waste of time, I dont think I'd reroll skills, unless they are unusable, but we'll see if the new gearing system is better.
I used to play a lot. Really good game (in theory) I loved the combat playing as a kung fu master, but the pay to win was really hard in the game, and you could only join groups with gear check. it was annoying as f and reason why I left. PS: SO the huge problem with this game was the pay to win, yes. First of all, you had to farm, grind, for 2 different gears, the pvp and pve one. and it wasn't that easy to get and enchant, upgrade the gear, so in order for you to do that and be able to play the end game content you had to spend money or play 24/7 non stop. Lets say that every 6 months there was a gear progression, so sometimes, when you were about to get your gear for pve to play the content, a new more powerful gear would come and the gear you had would become useless, because now you would have to grind for the stronger one. And if you wanted to play pvp, you would also need to grind for a different gear. This was a game I spent money and I never felt realization, like I never really achieved what I wanted. And the whales would just ask for groups with people with AP (Attack power), usually higher than the dungeons used to be, so they could do it ignoring mechanics just burn bosses with high dps. If you would join any other group, people wanted you to be linking your gear for gear check. It used to be very toxic and annoying. There were not much of open world content that you could do to get gear, you needed to do the dungeons and to do the dungeons you had to go through these proccess I just mentioned. This game made me hate anything that would come from NCSoft for a long time till I find Arena Net and guild wars 2. I loved B & S story. I loved being the Master of Hongmoon to the kids. But the game didn't love me or my money. They wanted my money, but never made me feel good for spending it in the game.
i quit live bns after like 2y of playing due to the combination of not liking what i saw at kr with the awakening patch and my time spend clearly not being respected. redownloaded recently to pre-customize characters for neo(screenshotted numbers just incase the file isnt compatible)+to check if live still had the same bugs and live is awful now. your first login reward is a guaranteed 50 attack power gem, making the early game a bigger joke than it already is, as there's even more bugs now than there was originally, making me think ncsoft has completely given up on anything not endgame there
What really killed this game to me was extremelly high ping. I'm from SA and always played NA servers but B&S had such higher ping it was really annoying to play. And it wasn't just me, all my friends had the same problem from different locations/countries in SA. Let's hope it'll be better this time.
Dunno why make this when there's lots of classic servers of BNS with max level 45. Also every thing is western servers are way more harder to get than in the other servers like the Korean one.
@@user-fv8uv2us9r Japan BNS shut down and they had way more players than western servers, the only reason the servers still up is because every thing is overpriced here. If they launch here they will increase the grind ten fold to force players to spend money on the cash shop.
Same sh*t as aion classic, they just use nostaly on players int he beginning then maj would be more and more P2W and paid would be a obligation like aion classic again with a lot pf passes every month... Ncsoft can't use their brain anymore...They're just a trash compagny.
When i see NCsoft i just avoid the game. They will milk their players to the last drop. GW2 is the only game i play that is connected to NCSoft and because im a gw1 player so i believe in gw2 developers.
They ruined it for me when they censored those sexier npcs and character outfits. That alone already drive my interest in the game away besides the p2w and other bad updates along the way.
played this when it was in beta and the first year of release...they never fixed the frame rate issues so the game became unplayable...tried playing again like a year ago and there were still frame rate issues...unless they fix that the game will die again because BnS lost most of its players in that first year due to optimization issues like the frame rate issues
@@neonsama4355 i hope you are right...but NCSoft has a history of not giving a shit...point in case being the same issues from launch still plaguing the game...i wont hold my breath, but would be nice if they actually did their job for classic...but ultimately i feel it will be a cash grab given their history
i think he missed a rly big point and thats cheating in BnS. People are constantly speedhacking hrough dungeons in Neo and in Retail and people use XML Profils (Macro) for best dps. a Human would never be able to press the Buttons at the lvl XML does. Ncsoft does nothing against this cheats and thats why both games are a no go for me
Yeah, admittedly I did cut out a lot of things when talking about this because I felt there was too much to realistically cover and I felt bad just rambling on nonstop; looking back NCSoft fucked up so often and in so many different aspects that I don't blame myself for missing a lot 😂
cuz ppl dont play mmos for pvp, if the pvp in an mmo is good it's just a side bonus. Devs focus all their actual effort into pve, which the pve was p2w in bns
I love you Kanon, but i have to correct something here. GW2 is definitely P2W, however it still respects time. But the fact you can buy their cash shop currency and then convert it into gold or vice versa gold into the gems. Still P2W just not as P2W as literally every other P2W feature.
I absolutely despise the company but unfortunately Blade and Soul is like crack to me, has me in a chokehold - wish I could quit but it's basically ruined every other MMO for me.
if the game will not have a full open world pvp with some karma/flag/pk system....... it makes no sense tbh why would we gear up ti kill Ongong faster?
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the problem is america is not china and thats kinda where it ends this is not the action game thinking about rpg games like devil may cry we were waiting for back playing lineage 2 in 2007, the game is very chinese and only people in china play wow, im not surprised its for china, i dunno man aion still makes more sense but until games get playerbases over 100 i dunno wat to even ask them to do everything is for profit, much rather play tabula rasa but i dunno atleast ncsoft released blade and soul and its not like some ashes of creation cash grab, aion is still up after 15 years in western audience being a "dead game" im happy that atleast i can see the things i grind years for still accessible even if theres no playerbase, gw2 bns was never really my thing but its bringing in money for the company, maybe one day they use the money to make a game i do care about, hopefully not wildfall wow clone. blizzard got all that money and they never even made anything nor was wow even interesting to begin with, people would rather play runescape then wow type of stupid, even then its not like i was payign the money for everquest but there were better free options, 20 years later and nothings changed, also what happened to korean action mmos there use to be ton of trailer but apparently their all playing dumb western games now
Thanks for having me on!
Here's to hoping NCSoft delivers on a Global Release - might have to wait another 6 months before we get any information though 🙃
Looking back there's some stuff I missed so if anyone has any questions feel free to reply to me here and I'll do my best to answer them!
Thanks again to Kanon for the opportunity!
i never played the original - when you say junghado is who we're gonna have to grind for bis gear, does this include the pve "gear minmaxing" you're referring to later in the video or are there like enhancement systems in place that require other content? thanks in advance, great video guys
@@v-ia Junghado is the main grind behind getting "True Legendary Weapon" - the grind which will take 6 weeks and also your main source of Insignia upgrades as a F2P; both 2 big upgrades but the rest of your BiS gear comes from doing the latest dungeons and hoping to roll the correct stats at the end.
With the new system they have in place when you get an Accessory at the end of a dungeon as long as your roll the skills you want and the substat you want the only thing you'd do to upgrade it from there is maybe infuse a Psyche (just additional rng stats) other than that you're basically just set - no upgrades on any of the weapons/accessories you drop after that.
6v6 is the only PvP? No arena? Thats the only thing NA cares about if no arena game DOA.
@@captainslapahoe9540 Funny story about this, on release they restricted Arena to lv45 (Lvl Cap was 36 on CN release) which was fair enough, kinda understandable... so anyway they increased the Lvl Cap to 45 after a few weeks and the same patch they did that they also restricted Arena to lv46.
This was like, 3-4 months ago - still no news about Arena and the Chinese community are fuming about it yet they don't answer anything concerning this.
I also played the Beta test for Blade and Soul NEO Classic and Arena was available then... except it wasn't gear balanced; so PVE players and whales were the top ranked players. I'd be living in Arena if it was available; I'm not even that big of a fan of 6v6 😂
Used to play in old days as assissan and had ping issue . So the game still will depend on ms ?
if I hear that is at least less p2w than before, and not being able to buy equipment with real money, I might give it a try, otherwise, I really hope they let it die, or give it to someone else who really can appreciate the gameplay and the idea behind the game.
Chinese version is pretty p2w compare to global unless they change something in neo china
Oof!!!, lost one already
@@CALAMlTY_ I mean...the game itself was really awesome at the start,but the stupid changes and the lack of care for the game its what brought its ruin.
@@CALAMlTY_ I first played on a laptop and I broke the keyboard xD
@@HMNNO yea
As much as I would like this project to succeed, I just don't see it ending up any different than the original release. Maybe I will join the fun for the first few months for nostalgia.
9:35 oh the Junghado guy - I remember this one from when I pretty much started playing (I started at eu launch). I wasn't particularly good, didn't have properly upgraded weapon and accessories so I had barely enough dps to kill the guy before enrage by stealth cheesing him as assassin. Now the reason I remember this guy is that I got his hat as a drop on a second kill - my assassin never took off that hat to this day!
Will I have to wait some freaking decade again until it's released on my side of the world?
The Chinese server monetization model might not be what Neo Classic launches with, but it looks like the grim inevitability. I would love to be wrong.
Awakening is definitely when the game got squashed. I remember the day it dropped, all of my arena friends were disgusted it became "CC and one-shot," and neutral game just disappeared. People who only had interest in the equalized PvP content just dropped the game entirely right then.
The monetization from that point on got way more aggressive as well. I remember I was always roughly able to keep up with the whales, outside of gems. But eventually it got to a point where people could max out their PvP gear the day a new weapon came out through trove alone, not stepping foot in PvP a single time. Meanwhile, obtaining those gear upgrades was time-gated through gameplay, as 6v6 only popped at certain hours. Spending money was just so much stronger than spending time, that while it discouraged F2P and low-spending players, it surely bored the whales just the same.
idk why they cant just have the damn game like this without any bs
@@GodHexe Why would they just make X money when they can make 2*X money? Or they are just incompetent.
For the love of God, PLEASE do this with Tera
TERA didn't deserve to die like that, a classic server would have resurrected the game
I love Tera but they killed it and there is no care given when it was still alive, both Tera and BnS got the abandoned child treatment and just became a cosmetic cash cow.
rly like that new interview format done here. i prefer this over face to face Q and A. thanks!
This guy is 100% correct Awakening killed the game along with some of the hongmoon updates that severely unbalanced the game and made some of the classes trash in arena. I was Diamond PvP player NA/ JP & TW on 5+ classes and the hongmoon skills killed most classes before Awakening even came out. If they dont address that, this release will be trash also which is sad because to this day there has been no game with skill based PvP that comes even close to OG BnS.
The game with better pvp that BnS was Aion. they had a better pvp imo. Even the flying pvp was lit. Was by far the best pvp game I ever played, I would put BnS in second when it comes to pvp. But that was all the game had.
@@joshuaSand3rs Nope played it was good but not better
Ngl, i love BnS, loved blade master and kfm as well, and would look forward to playing the game again
This looks good overall. I dont like the accessory giving random skill effects. Not sure what they were thinking with that. But just looks like an roulette sink
It looks mostly like vanilla BNS, which I personally think is a really bad thing, Because it may just be foreshadowing for the already set in stone path of BNS, and that is when Pet Aura, Soul gems and trinkets come into the game, everything will turn into diluted stat sticks and you just no brain the entire game once again.
We must avoid that at all costs, and I can only hope the developers realize this
So over the 20+ years of playing games, NCSoft acquiring an ip has always been a bad thing. Really dont know why devs continue to sell out to them. Really wish they would disappear or another publisher supersedes them.
China usually has really hard monetisation , they can somehow even make it more p2w than Korea. So i wouldn't expect the monetisation in Global to be the same . I know the Korean server has been out for awhile too so it would be interesting to compare how different China and Korea monetisation are for Neo Classic
I loved this game. In my opinion, no other mmo came close to the pvp in this game. I have fond memories of my lightning blade master. Such a badass class! I once won a 3v1. I dont think l will ever forget that moment, l was in the zone!
Edit: The guy playing blademaster in the vid sucks. Its painful to watch, who uses pierce for dps? He should have maintained draw stance for dps. I cant help but criticize :)
Oh, I also had such a case when my allies died and I alone as a warlock killed three axes.. THAT WAS SO WILD, MY HEART HAS NEVER BEATEN LIKE THIS ❤
(I win)
lmao, at the time that was the highest dps build on NEO. with all due respect don't talk with confidence about something you have no real understanding of.
ill on Kanon channel POGGG
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GET ON BNSPVP!!!
but neo looks visually nice compare to ue4 retail and the skill visuals look very crisp, I just wish they didn't turned bns into a gacha aspect game...
Man what I didn't miss was the damn UI xD
My gamer's scar was touched. I guess they'd better to not release it on global at all than making some attempts which are basically the same scheme as always: to give up on balancing stuff and caring about the game and just milk the game to death with endless gear progression systems stacking up on each other.
This is the game I enjoyed way back it was on small private servers. It took a while to get it released on the west. But it finally did released I enjoy this game very much that I spent atleast close to $4k. The first 5 months of its release in the West was a blast. As months pass by they keep adding more and more P2W elements to where I can no longer sustain my spending habits n was ruining the experience for me with everything from the rng drop rate on this game is soo low. Plus the increase cost of P2W elements was just too much for me. I also had a guild member who was a bigger whale than me who had spent over $6k total in everything. But we all moved to BDO instead right after.
The pvp was so good. I was a top 5% player with multiple classes and 200 ping. Yeah i was a beast.
If they make a server here i totaly would play, one of the best pvps ever. But the awakening sh it the bed hard.
i'd one combo you with assassin
Global release probably already canceled. Neo's global site shut down already.
Idk what any of these is. It just appeared on my homepage. Idk why im not even the target demographic
Looks like a fun game, when it comes to the p2w aspect like it'd be better if it weren't the case. But "p2w" has become such a normal thing nowadays with f2p MMOs that I honestly don't care too much anymore. Especially in this case where it doesn't seem mandatory, just speeds up the process to getting what you can naturally get through playing the game. So long as the game plays well, I can still earn those things regardless of the amount of time it takes, and I can set up pseudo-controller support or if the game has native controller support(even better) then I'm happy.
you are just forgeting that before you get that gear regardless of the amount of time, the gear progression happens for a stronger gear, and you will never get there, you will always be spending your time trying to get the gear and never being able to. Unless the game die like it did and people be crying to have at least 1 person to play with.
@@joshuaSand3rs I'm well aware, and I enjoy grinds so at the end of the day it's a win win, and usually that same "old endgame gear" is still viable for awhile with content as is anyways it just isn't "the best" in that current period. I'll never understand people who jump into a MMO and dislike grinds. If ya want an MMO-lite with little to no grind then just play FFXIV.
I play XIV just to do raids alone, idc for the gearing aspect there. Is a good side MMO to play while you delve into other games. To each their own tho
maybe in EU in 5~7 years?
Is there a release date ? 😢
NCSoft always kill their own games with bad updates/expansions. I have played so many NCSoft games, and they were all so good, best memory was Lineage 2, but NCSoft killed it when they released The Kamael, Aion was also INSANE, but they killed that too with a really shitty expansion and game died. BnS was really good too, until it NCSoft killed it with shit updates.
What about the most important question?? Jiggle Physics how is it?
When it was said that "awakening" broke the game - it touched me.
Definitely so, I don't think that this game is so dependent on donations, considering that there is an arena and it is balanced. By the way, I also think that the classes after the warlock/chi are not very good, especially those after the gunners
And original graphic/ui are best orz It looks ancient, but that's the point, I think. It was so atmospheric game.
Tera Online is failed mainly lacking of having less pvp, and BNS normal or legacy versions have the same problem...
Great video, hopefully we can get an interview with Ncsoft west about our verison soon.
Even if you buy a gear it is usable for the pve content not the pvp aspect of the game when u pvping in to the arena all share the same gear score. That's a balance in to pvp world tou can actually show some skill this way.
I really am looking forward to this, because I enjoyed this game so much in 2016-17 it was sooooo fun. And the footage of Neo Classic really looks like it was back in the game just better graphics which im really excited for.
The P2W wasn't what killed the game, but it was the final nail in the coffin for me. Retail had so many issues (optimization being my #1 issue), that the P2W seemed even more aggregious. "All these problems? Why am I paying for this shit?" - that's when I quit in 2018.
I might play this game if they remove the loading screen from an area to another area!!
i kinda love p2w game so whale can carries us :)
But the only bad thing is in pvp aspect.
That why i love Dragon nest (old mmo)
Because they seperated between skill base pvp and geared base pvp ;)
Idk why new mmo not implement this :(
What I have been wondering for some time now is: is NCSoft the actual developer or just the publisher, similar to Activision?
@@Kuga4D Team Bloodlust is the developer
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Blade and soul was pay2win. Quit that shit so fast
i think it pure copium that hes saying p2w is not what killed it ncsoft stopped caring when they killed it with p2w it was always p2w but u still can keep up a f2p player but they got greedy and more greedy and nerfed and removed any meaningful way to progress as free 2 play player so either u p2w and join ht whales or quite the game or accept the fact that u gonna be stock with story gear for the rest of your life and the only gear push u get is when they remove the gear u are in so u automatically get pushed to the tier above
It's not what killed it, nor was awakening but they all played a very significant part in killing the game - it was a group effort of fuck ups 😂
We know that P2W is the MAIN reason why a lot of games die or just stop getting as many players as they did..
Nothing new for NCsoft the only game that is running from them is GW2 they made b&s as L2 totally cash grab
my english not very well when we play eu servers?
no SEA servers?
I have seen at least 3 comment that did not have p2w in it !
Thanks for the info, hope BNS release soon.
Yeah, I'd return to retail after a month, if they kept chinese P2W version of BnS. But I'm also a fashion player, so the game could at least have a transmog system, because that way at least you could mix and match existing outfit pieces, better than rereleasing the same game with same outfits that existed in retail for years. And wow, I knew there's gonna be a catch when they said you wont need to level up your gear. I'm not a minmaxer, since thats a waste of time, I dont think I'd reroll skills, unless they are unusable, but we'll see if the new gearing system is better.
not touching any games they will launch anymore the amount of p2w of all games they make is crazy
It never hit consoles so i never played it but i kept my eyes on it
I used to play a lot. Really good game (in theory) I loved the combat playing as a kung fu master, but the pay to win was really hard in the game, and you could only join groups with gear check. it was annoying as f and reason why I left.
PS: SO the huge problem with this game was the pay to win, yes. First of all, you had to farm, grind, for 2 different gears, the pvp and pve one. and it wasn't that easy to get and enchant, upgrade the gear, so in order for you to do that and be able to play the end game content you had to spend money or play 24/7 non stop.
Lets say that every 6 months there was a gear progression, so sometimes, when you were about to get your gear for pve to play the content, a new more powerful gear would come and the gear you had would become useless, because now you would have to grind for the stronger one. And if you wanted to play pvp, you would also need to grind for a different gear.
This was a game I spent money and I never felt realization, like I never really achieved what I wanted.
And the whales would just ask for groups with people with AP (Attack power), usually higher than the dungeons used to be, so they could do it ignoring mechanics just burn bosses with high dps.
If you would join any other group, people wanted you to be linking your gear for gear check. It used to be very toxic and annoying. There were not much of open world content that you could do to get gear, you needed to do the dungeons and to do the dungeons you had to go through these proccess I just mentioned.
This game made me hate anything that would come from NCSoft for a long time till I find Arena Net and guild wars 2.
I loved B & S story. I loved being the Master of Hongmoon to the kids. But the game didn't love me or my money. They wanted my money, but never made me feel good for spending it in the game.
I have been nolifeing this game in its golden time, oh man. Great video man, so informative.
The PvP looks so sick 😮
ill does private servers so he tries to keep the bns tradition alive
i quit live bns after like 2y of playing due to the combination of not liking what i saw at kr with the awakening patch and my time spend clearly not being respected.
redownloaded recently to pre-customize characters for neo(screenshotted numbers just incase the file isnt compatible)+to check if live still had the same bugs and live is awful now.
your first login reward is a guaranteed 50 attack power gem, making the early game a bigger joke than it already is, as there's even more bugs now than there was originally, making me think ncsoft has completely given up on anything not endgame there
What really killed this game to me was extremelly high ping. I'm from SA and always played NA servers but B&S had such higher ping it was really annoying to play. And it wasn't just me, all my friends had the same problem from different locations/countries in SA. Let's hope it'll be better this time.
Dunno why make this when there's lots of classic servers of BNS with max level 45.
Also every thing is western servers are way more harder to get than in the other servers like the Korean one.
When you receive it officially, it's just nicer. Well, and there are more people
@@user-fv8uv2us9r Japan BNS shut down and they had way more players than western servers, the only reason the servers still up is because every thing is overpriced here.
If they launch here they will increase the grind ten fold to force players to spend money on the cash shop.
Goyette Flats
another cash grab from ncsoft Ill never trust them again in my life
Bns players will vividly remember the "UE4" update. 4 years in the making lmao
hope ncSoft learn from this probleme and dont make throne and liberty pay2win heavy
This game not gonna last 2 years
Any raids? Open world PvP? Any guild vs guild PvP? What’s the endgame content. I’ve never played 😅
good video thx man
Same sh*t as aion classic, they just use nostaly on players int he beginning then maj would be more and more P2W and paid would be a obligation like aion classic again with a lot pf passes every month...
Ncsoft can't use their brain anymore...They're just a trash compagny.
When i see NCsoft i just avoid the game. They will milk their players to the last drop. GW2 is the only game i play that is connected to NCSoft and because im a gw1 player so i believe in gw2 developers.
They ruined it for me when they censored those sexier npcs and character outfits. That alone already drive my interest in the game away besides the p2w and other bad updates along the way.
played this when it was in beta and the first year of release...they never fixed the frame rate issues so the game became unplayable...tried playing again like a year ago and there were still frame rate issues...unless they fix that the game will die again because BnS lost most of its players in that first year due to optimization issues like the frame rate issues
frames are better in ue4, if ue4 is bad in current retail its due to patches if we get classic it will run on max fps the whole time trust me
@@neonsama4355 i hope you are right...but NCSoft has a history of not giving a shit...point in case being the same issues from launch still plaguing the game...i wont hold my breath, but would be nice if they actually did their job for classic...but ultimately i feel it will be a cash grab given their history
GG, good info!
as being top 1% myself. i agree.
Great Vid
i think he missed a rly big point and thats cheating in BnS. People are constantly speedhacking hrough dungeons in Neo and in Retail and people use XML Profils (Macro) for best dps. a Human would never be able to press the Buttons at the lvl XML does. Ncsoft does nothing against this cheats and thats why both games are a no go for me
Yeah, admittedly I did cut out a lot of things when talking about this because I felt there was too much to realistically cover and I felt bad just rambling on nonstop; looking back NCSoft fucked up so often and in so many different aspects that I don't blame myself for missing a lot 😂
Yo how the fuck the public still believes that a game that is equalizes the pvp aspect ( at least arena 1vs1) is a p2w game ? 😅
cuz ppl dont play mmos for pvp, if the pvp in an mmo is good it's just a side bonus. Devs focus all their actual effort into pve, which the pve was p2w in bns
Completely paid 2 win uhh.............
I might pass on it then lol 😂.
ncsoft destroy everything they make
it will be p2w global aswell then i asume, i am out, well i really hate the world as it is now a days.
HARD pass for me look at the current state of global :) a Big mess im assumming classic going to follow the same path as global
I mean i dun care bout p2w but i laughed my ars off. Thats like diablo 3 at release...and some games you can still buy stuff from ebay. Hilarious.
And they addressed that the game won't be p2w.... Bunch of clowns
I love you Kanon, but i have to correct something here. GW2 is definitely P2W, however it still respects time. But the fact you can buy their cash shop currency and then convert it into gold or vice versa gold into the gems. Still P2W just not as P2W as literally every other P2W feature.
After disapointment in bns2 i don't trust them,bye
anybody who plays ncsoft games has no self-respect
I absolutely despise the company but unfortunately Blade and Soul is like crack to me, has me in a chokehold - wish I could quit but it's basically ruined every other MMO for me.
west version is just the worst really. they keep recycling content thats why I quit
P2W Killed the game wtf he talking bout lol
The global has already closed the page and the CZcams channel, dead game
if the game will not have a full open world pvp with some karma/flag/pk system....... it makes no sense tbh why would we gear up ti kill Ongong faster?
It is going to be a p2w fest.
so it is completely pay to win. pass.
This game would have been sick if they removed Blade ca*cer from the game 2/10 until they do