Adelina Patti ~ Ah Non Credea Mirarti ~ ( La Sonnambula )
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- čas přidán 1. 02. 2013
- This is one of the best versions if not the best version of this aria that human ears ever heard and ever will hear THANK YOU ADELINA ! Recorded in 1906 at her home Craig Y Nos Castle. Adelina Patti.
- Hudba
At first I didn't get this, she sounds so leisure and not "operatic". Then one day it sudden dawn on me that this is just how singing should be, natural and pure. And I love how laid back she sounds, like she does not need to prove anything or show off any excessive technic.
Exactly! The deep, artificially darkened, stiff, unresonant "operatic" voices we are used to are an invention of the second half of the XXth century.
its as if she really is asleep.
A wonderful glimpse back to the bel canto style!
@@RestlessTheRED, yeah, and the inventor's name is Bonynge.
robert111k lmfao has nothing to do with Bonynge. He preaches the exact opposite of overdarkening, stiffness, hollow sound etc.
Why does everyone “hate” him so much??
Adelina Patti was born in 1843, so at the time of this recording in 1906, she was about 63 years old. Unfortunately, there are no recordings of her singing in her prime. Given the age of the recording and of the singer, we are only hearing a "ghost" of what it must have been like to hear her singing live in her prime. Still, we should be grateful to have these reminders of her great talent.
Thank you for recognizing that, I try to tell anyone that harshly judges Madame Patti, to imagine Callas at 63 years old recording into a tin horn, onto a wax cylinder… Needless to say, we would have only heard stories of how great Callas was, & only have had the old recordings of her. Not only that, but 63 in Patti’s day was quite old… people didn’t live that long then, without modern medicine and medical knowledge I would compare it more to today’s 83 year olds. How I wish we could hear Patti at Covent Garden in the 1880-1881 season ❤️
vale per la Callas in tarda eta' probabilmente perché ha sforzato il suo timbro e la boce vo.e nessunamai, la Patti era attentissima ai ruoli che cantava... ma vale soorattutto per tutte quelle che cantano in modo penoso e hanno forse neppure 50 anni e i microfoni dovunque se non c' è una acustica che le favorisce... e non faccio nomi per pietà cristiana!
Reading Dorian Gray lead me to this great recording, being curious as I am. Thank you for posting it,
And this is what she sounded like at age 63, in retirement, with nearly half a century of professional singing behind her! A long, effortless legato, a perfect trill, a warm steady tone, and a sincerely delivered interpretation. How fortunate we are that she chose to take a chance and experiment with this primitive recording device and leave us these priceless relics of her declining powers. Quelle voix! Quel artiste! Maintenant nous savons pourquoi elle était Patti.
Remarkable and so natural... And remember that she was already 63 when this was recorded
One of the greatest recordings ever made! I took flowers to her grave in PERE LACHAISE!
Even in this low quality of sound. Her voice is so warm and free. They called her 'Hebe'. The goddess of eternal youth. What a suitable name for this legendary diva!
My goodness, that's a pretty great trill for 63! You can hear enough here to see how amazing she was.
Her voice is beautiful, with a magnific technique...
It’s adorable how gentle her voice is. KYA SO BEAUTIFUL
I love reading the moments of opera lovers. As a person from the dance world I never hear young dancers express enthusiasm or love when they see early dance films. Its usually just derision and dismissal. Im glad that music people of today can love these recording. I also visited her grave in Paris where a fan of hers told me that the opera house in Columbia was built just for her.
When I was younger, I didn't get her. Now she fascinates me!
Sounds so natural & relaxed, but this aria is taxing when done right (just like the simplest forms in martial arts can make a master sweat more than his students).. And Patti recorded this in her 60s. Wow. How lucky we are to have access to her voice.
That TRILL! My Lord, that TRILL! How did she do it?!?
Eine der größten Sängerinen aller Zeiten.
If you listen to the old recordings, compare them decade after decade and carefully listen up to the modern ones and back to the old ones you slowly start to shape a filter for what the old recorders didn't catch. I would love to be able to hear the old day voices live.
Mme Patti arriving at New York. Journalist, 'Do you know you make more money than the President of the United States?'. La Patti, 'Let him SING!'.
Wow! She was recommended to me for her perfect portamento. I love this music in her voice! It shows how round her tone is, and her squillo! It almost had more overtones than fundamental at times, especially in the middle of her voice! And, given how long ago this was recorded, what in the world must she have sounded like live?! Beautiful! Thanks for posting this!
You are welcome! Thank you for watching and commenting! What do you think of the “ Patti Trill?” You can really hear it best in her recording of “ Pur Dicesti,” it’s also on my channel.
Also notice her melancholy phrasing of “ IL Pianto, at 1:51,” it was absolutely genius of her. As far as I know she is the only one to break off and create that phrase 😍
@@Zack216216 I like her trill! It is flute-like and the 2 notes are distinct. Her voice has so much agility! I think her turns were faster and had more separation than even Sutherland, who took Ah, non giunge at break neck speed! Her voice is so pure! I am definitely going to listen to her more, and try to imitate her technique! Her voice isn't exactly what we think of when we think "opera singer" but her voice is so effortless and natural! Exactly what so few operatic sopranos achieve! ...I certainly have my work cut out for me! I am so glad to have access to hear people from the golden age!
@@Zack216216 Yes, you are right! Her phrasing is exquisite!
Touching melancholia, scaling the abyss (so to speak). A very special artist. Thank you, Zack!
Il registro centrale é magnifico, gli ornamenti formidabili e la capacità di interpretare é sconosciuta ai soprano dei nostri giorni. Inimitabili i suoi trilli a mezza voce.
I came here because I have recently learnt from family that my great grandfather, an undertaker, embalmed her, preparing her body for the journey from south Wales to her final resting place in France.
She was very old, and far from her prime here, and recorded on primitive equipment. She caused such a sensation in her heyday (she's even mentioned in "The Picture of Dorian Gray" when one character says "Tonight's a Patti night at the opera." But the most mind-boggling thing about this is the fact that we are listening to a singer that Rossini himself listened to. It seems she auditioned for him when she was a teenager (she didn't get the job because he didn't care for her embellishments). But talk about a real piece of history!
Oh dear you think 63 is " very old"???
Debía de ser todo un personaje esta mujer y es verdaderamente notable que a los sesenta y tantos todavía cantara así.
Слушая Аделину Патти, я вживую впитываю, обоняю, вдыхаю благородный аромат того первозданного, первородного бельканто, которым потрясали слушателей Джудитта Паста и Мария Малибран. Их голоса отзвучали почти два века назад, но магию их воздействия можно ощутить, читая заметки современников (сам я впервые узнал о них, читая "Жизнь Россини" Стендаля). Как жаль, что до нас не дошли их голоса, потому что не было средств их сохранить, и какая радость, что есть записи их младшей современницы Аделины Патти! Пусть их немного и сделаны они в конце ее карьеры, почти в конце жизни, но в них живет колорит и аромат великого века бельканто. Большое спасибо!
Prekrasno skazano! Kak priyatno soznavat, chto ya ne edinstvenniy russkoyazichniy poklonnik Patti :)
All recordings by Patti carry object lessons in musicality and technique. Her "Ah non credea" is a miracle of delicacy and grasp of the message within Bellini's pages. The trills therein never cease to be amazing. Can one choose it as one's favorite Patti record? The "Casta Dova" reveals so much of an age gone by that one is spellbound with each hearing. Would that the overtones of her voice have been captured. I appreciate the care with which you have presented the photographic images chosen for your posts. And you have offered quite an array of them. (The ones of Craig y Nos even allow one to savor some of the gas-electric combination light fixtures.) Your devotion to these echos of Patti is admirable.
Your knowledge seems vast, are you an avid admirer of Patti? Your description describes the to the very last detail of why she was the one and only Queen Of Song. It also shows you have a very musical ear and a very trained eye! Thank you for the kind compliments and for watching my videos. If you would like to see many , many more photos and information please let me know and I will direct you to my facebook fan page made by me, in honor of our Patti.
Note that these recordings were made in her retirement when she was 63. She had been singing professionally since 1859.
I read about Patti in Henry James' novel "Roderick Hudson". He was right. And Verdi was right too. She was a marvel! Thank you for posting!!
L'età e la registrazione effettuata in casa sua penalizzano la resa voicale, ma il timbro ha uno smalto ed una bellezza unica ed il centro è fra i più affascinanti che abbia udito, è magico... Cosa doveva essere in piena carriera ... Chapeau
Ce qui me frappe dans cette merveille, et me bouleverse, c'est que les merveilleux ornements(en particulier des trilles d'une perfection inconnue aujourd'hui) sont complètement intégrés à cette vision si mélancolique du texte illustré par Bellini. Aucune place pour le narcissisme (pas de poids ou de longueur superflue sur les aigus) , juste l'épanchement intime et cette langueur infinie du spleen romantique....
Haunting and timeless in a beautiful way. Love it.
beautiful! quite haunting! I seldom enjoy recordings prior to 1920s simply due to the effect they have on the voice of the singer, but this is just exquisite!
Verdi was a huge admirer. He especially singled out her "Io l'amo" in Rigoletto Act IV. Since it consists of three notes, I wish I knew what he loved about it.
Mimi's 'Bada' in Donde lieta uscì is only two notes, yet so vivid and alive was Melba's singing of it that Walter Legge had Schwarzkopf study just that one word from Melba's Mimi and try to emulate the vocal miracle. And Gerald Moore relates that Elena Gerhardt could sing just one note, C#5, a cappella, and indicate merely by her tone coloring whether it belonged to the major or the minor mode. Great artists do not require a plethora of notes in order to make their effects.
@@allanhough8222 Well, I'm gay and I find lots of sopranos seductive--vocally!
Meravigliosa perfezione. Riesce ad arrivare nonostante i limiti della registrazione.
The lodestar will always be Patti. I listen to other sopranos but I always come back to Patti.
i'll always remember a p this way, thank you for the collection of paintings and photos they were splendid
An amazingly big thank you for such an amazing sharing. Wow.................
Your Patti Facebook material is overwhelming in its scope. Far too much to take in, even in several viewings. I am grateful for the opportunity to savor your careful, thoughtful and exquisitely executed work. A treasure trove to enjoy on many occasions!
Very beautiful..
Merci ☺
Thanks for uploading. Adelina Patti was a good friend of Ellen Lewis Herndon Arthur, and later, she sung for her widower, President Chester Arthur, in the White House. RIP all three.
Did you know she sang for President Abraham Lincoln in the White House in 1862!! Here we have the priviledge of hearing hearing her some 40 plus years later a perfect example of 19th C vocalism. No such trill has everbeen duplicated!!
Thomas Rexdale Lovely voice. It is like time travel - these records made over a hundred years ago... i would love to visit those times.
Thomas Rexdale your wrong Rosa Ponselle had a perfect trill. Although I do think Patti is a lovely singer.
Really? So cool when musical and political history intertwine that way.
beautiful.
Very good pictures, she was really nice!
És de llorar de tanta emocion en su voz
As a modern person, how do i understand a singing style like hers?
Simple pure this is art ❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍
Now a boutique hotel on the way up to the crai reservoir and Sennibridge...was a hospital where my gran ended her days.
The trill 😱😍
GRAN SOPRANO ESPAÑOLA, NACIDA EN MADRID EN 1843
Magnífica!
In all probability this reaches back to performance traditions Bellini would have recognized. The trill alone (who called it the sound of a thrush?) would have been worth the five bucks asked for it when it was released, a huge amount 106 years ago.
PRECIOSA
That´s correct-She was the Queen of Song and of the Opera-Thank´s very much for the reply-Kind wishes from germany M.Z.
I do think Beverly Sill's trills (hey, that sounds like a trill!) were also spectacular. I heard her live many times.
C'est évidemment très gériatrique (souffle raccourci, son tubé, aigus zappés...) et très archéologique (rotation du tambour à une vitesse inégale qui déforme le son) mais le timbre est magnifique. Le modelé de la phrase est exemplaire, et la maîtrise de ce qui reste de voix est stupéfiant. Il faut faire un effort pour écouter, mais ca laisse imaginer ce qu'elle a pu être du temps de son apogée: une déesse absolue.
Legend here in Wales.
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Que nostálgico se oye...
the old style of singing, when quality of tone and phrasing were of greatest importance, when coloraturas were music and not technique to show off, and before vibrato became an easy substitute for real expression. this art is now lost.
No it isn't, but everywhere directors and so cald teachers do not understand it anymore and men, who can deside, pick the wrong singers and the people do not know better!
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We still got lil pump
Did someone else noticed those trills? They were her way of expression or just a show off?!
Actually, quality of tone and phrasing were not the only things of greatest importance. The believability is no less important, as others like Caruso, Ponselle, Callas, etc proved.
She is related to me. And my oldest looks just like her . Family genes are strong
¡2020! ❤
Thank you for your reply. I think any serious admirer of vocal music and voices of the past would have to admire Patti. Please supply the route to your Patti Facebook information, which will likely prove enjoyable. By the way, I like the photograph that Patti autographed to Gaisberg on the back of the EMI Lp set RLS 711very much.
Yes! I love that picture as well! When checking out the page , be sure to click on " albums " to see all of the pictures I have of her. Please let me know what you think and thank you again for your kind words and views! I'll send you a friend request from my profile after you like it. facebook.com/pages/Adelina-Patti/475138492573694
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I have heard her "Casta Diva" I wish we had even more Bellini. I have a couple of originals on Victor. Do you have the Historic Masters Patti Centennial set of vinyls pressed from the surviving masters? A great way to hear some of her records.
bellissima voce e tecnica formidabile peccato che il disco sia arrivato troppo tardi ! la signora aveva debuttato in lucia nel1859! questo disco è del 1906!
No question how wonderful she is in anything she ever sang.....but my question is why does she sing half tone lower from the original. I wonder if its the recording or she did it due to her age at the time of the recording? I would appreciate if anyone has the answer. Thanks!
Чудо
And when asked about the fact that she was earning more money than the president she answead: “Well, ask the President to sing.”
Прекрасно, так пусть президент споёт!
What I love about her (besides those trills!!!!!!!) is her expressive use of portamenti, equalled only by Callas in this one respect.
And in the 50s and 60s too! de los Angeles is one who is unjustly neglected these days.
Philip Kuttner Can we not talk about Callas on every other soprano's videos. It gets rather boring.
Not as boring as some of the performances on YouYube. But I take your point. I drive a musical friend crazy by mentioning Toscanini in every conversation, but it's become a shared joke.
@@philipkuttner7945 haha touche.
Why Not Callas ? She brought back bel canto in her career. 🎶
The best Amina I have yet heard. Even better than Maria Callas.
We all have Our opinions 🤔
@@robertn800 Not opinion but fact. :)
Interesting -This is the first time I have heard one of Patti's recordings. I had read they weren't very good but this is actually not bad at all. The voice was still limpid and steady but on this equipment I suspect a lot of her voice was not fully captured. To me she is taking it a bit easy and singing somewhat in sotte voce.
+ William maddox
¡CORRECTO ! ¡ AQUÍ LA ESCUCHAMOS CANTAR EN RADIO MUNICIPAL (TEATRO COLON) EN LA DÉCADA DEL 60 Y DABA ENVIDIA !!
Only one singer followed Patti's way and added those trills to the line. Should I mention its name?!
Vini Soaris Yes, please do. But, I do assume you are talking about the beautiful trills of Dame Joan Sutherland ?
@@Zack216216 Yep! Joan Sutherland. She admired very much these ladies and incorporated a lot of their ornaments in her singing.
And some nonsenses says "She over embellished the vocal line". No my darling, she just revived the GREATS!
Callas revived the bel canto Operas if you read your Opera History.
her trill by the way is a gift from God and she divined it thusly. Such a thing cannot be taught and she had it till the end of her days. As with Mozart who was told by Papa Haydn "i have nothing more to teach you" after only a few lessons and Jesus was told by the Priests the same thing at the age of 12 there have been and are true geniuses in this world think of Stevie Wonder in the pop field--created and inspired by God and somehow they have been able to appropriate more of His Power than you or I..dont forget that John 3:16 are NOT the words of Jesus. He actually said "We are ALL sons of God and greater things than I do so can you if you believe" John 3:16 is only used by the church to keep its members under their thumb.
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The Picture of Dorian Gray😍
19世紀が聞こえる
Come certi cantanti abbiano potuto diventare dei miti rimane un mistero. Un'antologia di pessimi esempi vocali.....
Was für eine seltsame Wertvorstellung
I don't like opera. But I see why people think shes good
Piccola chiosa... salvo casi rari a quel tempo le donne portavano il busto...e complicava la respirazione... infatti alle prove di alcuni arie con cabaletta un tenore partner della Tetrazzini disse poco galantemente che si slaccio' il busto per eseguire quelle meraviglie di picchiettati e di staccati di cui era regina indiscussa...ovvio che in teatro.le sarte tenevano conto di questo, ma le prove erano fatte con gli abiti abituali e quindi con busti contenitivi ... Quelle artiste hanno lasciato registrazioni purtroppo precarie tecnicamente che un soprano odierno si leccherebbe i gomiti solo per avvicinarcisi....
i just fucking cam