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  • Christina Chappetta talks with North Vancouver locals about what bikes they are on and if they are slack enough to handle the Seymour trails.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:19 - Specialized Enduro
    2:30 - Devinci Spartan
    3:51 - YT Capra
    5:14 - Banshee Titan
    7:17 - Santa Cruz Nomad
    9:12 - Outro
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  • @pinkbike
    @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +38

    Stoked to have Daily Drivers back for 2023! And even happier to have met some lovely folks out on the Shore a little while back. Thanks all, for you time and entertainment -Christina

  • @1969Escobar
    @1969Escobar Pƙed rokem +44

    That Banshee was awesome, great work Christina đŸ€Ÿ

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +2

      Thanks Andres! -Christina

  • @Peak_Mid
    @Peak_Mid Pƙed rokem +30

    Love checking out what everyone’s riding keep these bike checks up PB!

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +4

      Thanks! I love these days, getting to meet new peeps and chat shop. They're always pumped on their rigs -Christina

  • @DraculVaDomni
    @DraculVaDomni Pƙed rokem +2

    Hope you guys do more of the old school / classic bikes daily drivers :D

  • @SpencerBaum
    @SpencerBaum Pƙed rokem +2

    Loving my mulleted banshee titan! It's awesome to see other people rocking the same setup!

  • @majoromg449
    @majoromg449 Pƙed rokem +6

    also loved the Banshee Titan

  • @meneerbas
    @meneerbas Pƙed rokem +4

    Sweet rides! Doing a great job Christina! đŸ€™đŸ»

  • @DoctorDefiler
    @DoctorDefiler Pƙed rokem

    I just finished setting up my RSD RS-291 frame and this is the slackest bike I own now - 63.5 degree ht with a 150mm lyrik ultimate. I love it.

  • @MRSOMEBODYRC
    @MRSOMEBODYRC Pƙed rokem

    Still running a standard frame, hard tail, for mountain biking. Giant talon 3 xl 27.5. I love how it works for me, I can ride anything with it, fork upgraded, and tubeless tires. Won't replace it until it breaks.

  • @ShadLife
    @ShadLife Pƙed rokem +7

    Great video. It makse sense people want more slack bikes in that area. Where I live I think between 66 and 67 is the sweet spot as is 130 - 150mm of travel if you are going full suspension. Although hardtails are quite awesome too!!

  • @Danny-pl1sq
    @Danny-pl1sq Pƙed rokem

    As always love the bike check videos,🎉

  • @yetifanuk
    @yetifanuk Pƙed rokem +6

    I ride a bike with 62 degrees HA, you really need to transfer weight forward in flat fast corners or you wash out. Feels super stable everywhere

  • @herringtoncolin
    @herringtoncolin Pƙed rokem +2

    Yeaaa Marvin!

  • @Tequila628
    @Tequila628 Pƙed rokem

    Christina is my spirit animal!!! đŸ€™

  • @greenleafycabbage8715
    @greenleafycabbage8715 Pƙed rokem +2

    I have this 69° headtube angle on my mtb and I thought I can ride the trails really fine but I went to the trails which I'm not familiar with and I was terrified. It was steep but I survived. So I decided to replace my frame with a slacker headtube angle.

  • @JacquiPenar
    @JacquiPenar Pƙed rokem

    Love this show so much. Plus, all them bikes are sick

  • @MsSpicynipples
    @MsSpicynipples Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    I'm on a 66 degree Commencal Meta v4 and ive sent steeps and rollers most would never consider. I think reach chainstay and stack are much more important overall. But slack definitely helps.

  • @andrewharper1887
    @andrewharper1887 Pƙed rokem +2

    Great video, appreciated the explanation of what slacker bikes offer as I’m getting back into MTB after 15 years. Things got a lot slacker!

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Pƙed rokem +1

      Slacker isn't always better though, its good for going fast down steep tracks, but not so good everywhere else, like flatter xc tracks or blue flow tracks where the slack head angle will make the steering slower and take more weight off the front, which will make the front end feel more vague and easier to wash out when cornering.

  • @mikestivers8302
    @mikestivers8302 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    that Banshee is DOPEE

  • @dems_mtb
    @dems_mtb Pƙed rokem

    Great video, I'm partial to Norco or Orbea lol, never ridden anything else

  • @mwinburn200
    @mwinburn200 Pƙed rokem +2

    I am partial to YT bikes as I ride one (Jeffsy). Capra is sweet!

  • @mikejones420
    @mikejones420 Pƙed rokem

    favorite "component" Christina's pants, lol Girl those are some cool ass pants what are they? favorite bike, the Devinci Spartan

  • @bigslacker666
    @bigslacker666 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    I don't live near the shore so that doesn't matter. But I live right next door to N* and my Insurgent does the job on all the blacks/double blacks in the park with 65 degrees. Though I have to say last trip to Whistler I rented a v10 mullet that ran 63 degrees and it was sick!

  • @shredthetrack6858
    @shredthetrack6858 Pƙed rokem

    Fun to watch

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

    At 64.9 mine feels steep in comparison haha, but at least for Colorado it's more than slack enough, and even when I went to BC last summer it handled the steeps in Fernie just fine (ok I didn't attempt Kodiak Karnage or Dirt Diggler, but it did fine on everything else up there).

  • @lauraweissman8830
    @lauraweissman8830 Pƙed rokem

    mean while me on a knolly fugitive 138 with a mullet setup... has a 62.7 degree headtube... did i mention coil front and rear?

  • @clemens8744
    @clemens8744 Pƙed rokem +5

    Had a 64° headtube angle before i swapped the 180 lyriks against the dual crowns which made it 62°. Liked the slackeness so much that i also upgraded to an angled headset making it 60°...

  • @scottl8469
    @scottl8469 Pƙed rokem +1

    My fork is parallel to the ground. Going to buy an angleset to slacken it out just a little more.

  • @andresamson8859
    @andresamson8859 Pƙed rokem

    I’m 6’3, on a norco range VLT in XL, 63’ HTA with 462 chainstay. It feel balance because of the long chainstay, but the wheelbase is soooo long that it become cumbersome it the tight stuff. I think emtb (because of the weight) are more stable and doesn’t need to be as slack as regular bike
 for an XL ebike , i would rather have a 65’ HTA and 445 chainstay, to shortened the wheelbase while keeping the a similar balance.
    Probably a different story for small-medium bike

  • @jubalvw3302
    @jubalvw3302 Pƙed rokem +1

    Those Triad rims are sick

  • @TE_53349
    @TE_53349 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    i have a 2012 nukeproof scalp with a 63 degree head angle and it still shreds like new

  • @JoshuaTootell
    @JoshuaTootell Pƙed rokem +3

    Crazy how the weather looks so much better up there than in SoCal!
    Currently raining...again!

  • @BuffiestFluff
    @BuffiestFluff Pƙed rokem

    Love to see the Triads. Hope I made them!

  • @OverwatchPlaysGames147
    @OverwatchPlaysGames147 Pƙed rokem +1

    Just picked up a Specialized Status 160 the other day, really looking forward to the slacker geometry compared to my Intense Recluse!

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket Pƙed rokem

    Slackening geometry does put much more force on the front of the frame. Manufacturers specify a minimum number, I think, before you risk snapping a frame.

  • @kelvinhelmholtz
    @kelvinhelmholtz Pƙed rokem +3

    capra rider's outfit is sick

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +1

      The kid has some serious style -Christina

    • @kelvinhelmholtz
      @kelvinhelmholtz Pƙed rokem +1

      @@pinkbike I know it would be extra work, but it would be cool if you had an action shot of one of these riders... I think I found a video of quentin spinning and flipping, really increases the impact of your daily driver video. Ultra stoked for spring on the north shore, it's a great day for it!

    • @quintenissa4554
      @quintenissa4554 Pƙed rokem

      Thank you bro 😘

  • @oiyo5124
    @oiyo5124 Pƙed rokem

    Slackest hardtail would be interesting. I havent tried FS before. Is it true that a full sus feels 2 degrees lees steeper than a hardtail with the same HTA?

    • @jpsuperstar
      @jpsuperstar Pƙed rokem

      Front sag on a hardtail steepens the effective HTA, where a FS will sag front and rear and keep the angles similar relative to one another

  • @AdventureRich
    @AdventureRich Pƙed rokem

    Michelle Rodrtiguez! THAT'S who you remind me of! Jeez, that was beating me for a month!

  • @danytheunicorn95
    @danytheunicorn95 Pƙed rokem

    For the first time in my life, I have a bike that feels too slack stock, commencal meta sx on the low setting is too slack and too low in my opinion. Getting tons of pedal strikes both up and downhill, I have to lean forward way too much to weight the front wheel and climbing is more difficult. sure its faster and confidence inspiring on the super steep stuff but unnecessary. 64 degrees to 65 seems to be the sweet spot for me and for most riders, balance is the name of the game. I did modify my ebike from a 68degree ht angle to a 63 but it actually feel better than the commencal simply because of the weight distribution and cs length

  • @benjy288
    @benjy288 Pƙed rokem +4

    My bike is 66.5 with 120 rear 130 front and its slack enough, it handles steep double blacks just fine so why go any slacker? slacker will just make the steering slower and make it easier for the front to wash out on flatter corners, I think for the most part manufacturers keep making their bikes slacker to sell more bikes, but they can only do that for so long before they reach the limit, then what are they going to do?

    • @parker6711
      @parker6711 Pƙed rokem

      What bike? Ripley? I'm on a Stumpjumper evo. I love it but its sluggish where I live. I've been buying bikes for the 10% of riding I do on trips and not the 90% of the riding I do locally. I live in pedaling distance to a pretty fun 5 mile XC trail. Across the lake is a 22 mile XC styled trail. I'm kind of wishing I would have bought the right bike for my local trails. I'm looking at the same travel range your bike is in.

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@parker6711 Its a 2019 norco fluid fs1, I brought it used for a decent price, I've upgraded most parts on it now and knocked almost 2kg off it, now it weighs 13.8kg with pedals, the bike I had before it was a 2017 trek slash 9.8, 150 rear 160 front with a 65 degree head angle, I found it a bit boring on most tracks, the suspension would just absorb everything.
      But the short travel fluid is much more fun, its poppy and agile to the point where it still feels good on xc tracks, but its slack enough and stable enough to handle steep double blacks and fast rough stuff at the local bike park, I live in NZ so there's plenty of gnarly stuff here and it handles it just fine, I can still keep up with others who have a similar skill level to me on their enduro bikes.
      I find it to be the ultimate all rounder, it handles bike parks just fine, it doesn't feel sluggish and numb on xc tracks, and you can do big pedal days on it without it sapping all your energy, I would highly recommend it or a bike like it, norco have changed the new fluid though, now it feels more like a generic enduro bike, as opposed to a fun poppy and playful trail bike.

    • @MrUnl0rd
      @MrUnl0rd Pƙed rokem

      They can start decreasing reach again once it's too slack, so folks can hand out more cash for more slack

    • @Azoth5876
      @Azoth5876 Pƙed rokem

      My 2020 Trance 29 has nearly
      Identical numbers (except 115 rear) and i agree, it can handle the steeps just fine.
      The thing that slacker/ more travel gives you is stability and speed. I totally agree you can ride most trails on most bikes- but it's the confidence you get from a slacker, bigger bike that is the real difference

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Pƙed rokem

      @@Azoth5876 I agree a slacker and longer bike will give you more stability, though I've never felt like my norco lacked any stability compared to my slash, but with any design there's always a compromise, a long slack bike will suffer in tight corners and maneuverability, it all depends on what kind of bike you like, which annoys me that the current trend is to keep making bikes slacker, in a few years time it might be hard to find a short travel 66 degree head angle bike.

  • @TheCaptainsCog
    @TheCaptainsCog Pƙed rokem +2

    I think my Specialized Status may actually be too slack!

  • @robkenji4371
    @robkenji4371 Pƙed rokem

    The slacker the better I like sitting in the bike not on it. SC Nomad XL with angle set is over kill and I run a regular post instead of a dropper. I'm 5'10 and with 35mm stem Fox Performance 36 180mm and 27.5 wheels I definitely sit in the bike.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

      I couldn't imagine NOT running a dropper on a modern slacked out bike. On an old, short bike sure, you just hang off the back of the bike old school style.

    • @Tequila628
      @Tequila628 Pƙed rokem

      @@mrvwbug4423 yeah, this dude is super weird not running a dropper.

  • @HannyDart
    @HannyDart Pƙed rokem +5

    slack?
    transition spire: hold my beer

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +3

      hahaha yep! Surprisingly didn't see one that day, but they're everywhere! -Christina

    • @loki331
      @loki331 Pƙed rokem

      You must have just missed us. There were at least three of us out there for a lunch ride with our bright orange extra slack spires haha.

    • @HannyDart
      @HannyDart Pƙed rokem

      @@loki331 and do you guys think the spire is slack _enough_ ?

    • @loki331
      @loki331 Pƙed rokem

      @@HannyDart for the Shore I think it's just right. Point it down steep things and it's happy, but still peddles reasonably well.

  • @spuddo123
    @spuddo123 Pƙed rokem

    The reason that banshee with the smaller wheel was easier to climb is because going down a wheelsize is equivalent to going to a smaller chainring

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

      Yup, it's like dropping 2 teeth on the chain ring.

  • @stone7658
    @stone7658 Pƙed rokem

    63 1/2 baby! Pedal strikes suck though 😱

  • @dogdaysunrise1970
    @dogdaysunrise1970 Pƙed rokem

    I got 62 on my G1. What did I win?

  • @bertrandolf9733
    @bertrandolf9733 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    Hehe, YT a german bike in canada - i ride canadian bike in germany (banshee) xD

  • @JamesRobertMTB
    @JamesRobertMTB Pƙed rokem +1

    Having a good mullet will offset and steep headtube angle đŸ’‡â€â™‚ïž

  • @eugenux
    @eugenux Pƙed rokem +1

    never too long, never too slack! 😅

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

      *tight switchback has entered the chat* đŸ€Ł

    • @eugenux
      @eugenux Pƙed rokem

      @@mrvwbug4423 don't care about them đŸ€·đŸżâ€â™‚ïž. I will not change a bike that's good for 99.99% of the time for that 0.01% where I would wish it would have been shorter.
      Let's say 2 seconds extra per switchback... let's say 10..no..let's say 20 per ride.. let's say 30...what I waste.. 1 minute per ride?, sorry, I cannot be bothered by 1 min per ride.

  • @jonmh1390
    @jonmh1390 Pƙed rokem

    Pure beauties today!!❀❀❀

  • @meopulent
    @meopulent Pƙed rokem

    Another great segment Christina. It is interesting that women don't ride on Tue...somebody has to work during the weekdays I guess. 😂

  • @roryennis96943
    @roryennis96943 Pƙed rokem

    i love watching videos and being weirded out when most of the bikes are 64 deg for big enduro bikes and not thinking thats all that slack because my hardtail is 62.4...then going oh right thats because its a hardtail and not a full sus

  • @reubenneate3492
    @reubenneate3492 Pƙed rokem +1

    MTB: Is my bike slack enough to hit this jumps/G-out/drop? BMX: Hold my beer

    • @thehighground4920
      @thehighground4920 Pƙed rokem

      I know(hope) it’s a joke, but it’s not comparable at all

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

      Steeper bikes jump better, HTA is irrelevant on drops unless you're trying to roll one, slacker HTA makes g-outs a little less gut wrenching, but a longer bike or one with more travel works even better to tame g-outs. Of course landing a BMX to flat when you're not a teenager will make your chiropractor very happy haha

  • @eliasdanieli5461
    @eliasdanieli5461 Pƙed rokem

    666k subs Pinky 🎉😈

  • @ryancarlson5644
    @ryancarlson5644 Pƙed rokem

    Christina what kind of dog do you want? Just curious.

  • @skinnybricks
    @skinnybricks Pƙed rokem

    Put a Zeb on my Sentinel. It's definitely slacker now, and I kinda want something less slack BUT I've found myself getting used to it in the PNW.

    • @Jonas_Dee
      @Jonas_Dee Pƙed rokem +1

      Assuming it’s a sentinel V2? I find the bike pretty slack how it is not too slack but definitely wouldnt go any further.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem +1

      PNW is about the only place where I'd probably even want a bike that's in the 63s

  • @gen-X-trader
    @gen-X-trader Pƙed rokem +2

    These days 65deg is considered a "trail" bike

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Pƙed rokem

      Yep, its a bit concerning really, there's trail bikes coming out now that can be run at 63 degrees, that's the same as a downhill bike.

  • @-Window-Licker-
    @-Window-Licker- Pƙed rokem +3

    Eat more big macs, bike will sink more. That's what I do.

  • @JM-ne4dr
    @JM-ne4dr Pƙed rokem

    Where's ben cathro been?

  • @jesses3304
    @jesses3304 Pƙed rokem +4

    Please do a 26“ special! Is it dead?

    • @ricodvorsky3844
      @ricodvorsky3844 Pƙed rokem +2

      hate to break it to you, but it's been dead for a while now, 27,5 too as a matter of fact. if you don't like 29ers there pretty much are no new bikes anymore

    • @Jonas_Dee
      @Jonas_Dee Pƙed rokem +1

      Gonna have to go to the dirt jumps to find them nowadays

    • @jeffinburlington
      @jeffinburlington Pƙed rokem

      ​@@ricodvorsky3844rocky mountain slayer (among others) offers a 27.5 version. And super slack. My dream rig.

    • @nickthaskater
      @nickthaskater Pƙed rokem +2

      If they do, give me a call and I'll bring out my 2017 Kona Stinky 26 downhill to the Shore.

    • @nickthaskater
      @nickthaskater Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@ricodvorsky3844 plenty of 26" in freeride still.

  • @itto7915
    @itto7915 Pƙed rokem +1

    most people don’t know what your talking about and does it really matter to most riders?

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +2

      That's what we're trying to figure out! Next video will be a new topic so stay tuned :-) -Christina

    • @jeffinburlington
      @jeffinburlington Pƙed rokem

      I personally think most pinkbike viewers know exactly what it's about and do think it matters

  • @acemacgruber6593
    @acemacgruber6593 Pƙed rokem

    Imo, the increasing slackness is due to mtn bike parks that lift people and their bikes up, and the hype around downhill jumping and stunts that get views.

  • @Liqweed1337
    @Liqweed1337 Pƙed rokem

    looking at a beautiful bike is like looking at a beautiful lady

  • @ragethomas
    @ragethomas Pƙed rokem +1

    Anyone feel she seems like Mila Kunis sister? Even sounds like her

  • @andrec.136
    @andrec.136 Pƙed rokem

    My 66.5 seems rather steep compared to these. lol

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Pƙed rokem

      Same as mine, but 66.5 is still slack enough to handle steep double blacks just fine, and the steering still feels quick and responsive too, I think its a good balance for a trail bike.

  • @puka6043
    @puka6043 Pƙed rokem +1

    When I see 66° on my bike, I think it's time to mow more lawns..

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Pƙed rokem

      depends on your trails. For most of the world 66 is fine for even spicy trails. It's really in BC and maybe a few spots in California, Colorado and the Alps where they build some insanely steep trails

    • @puka6043
      @puka6043 Pƙed rokem

      @@mrvwbug4423 I moved to Switzerland and most of the time we ride bikeparks. I bet slacker HA can a little bit with breaking bumps and other obstacles in higher speed.

  • @solobellimino2356
    @solobellimino2356 Pƙed rokem +1

    "Slack" is a jamaican slang for dirty minded(sexually)
    So yeah, I cant stoo giggling 😂

    • @justsayin3600
      @justsayin3600 Pƙed rokem

      Urban Dictionary has some other definitions.

  • @majoromg449
    @majoromg449 Pƙed rokem

    not as slack as they should be?

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +1

      Once you go slack you don't go back??? -Christina

  • @DestroyAllWaves
    @DestroyAllWaves Pƙed rokem

    soooooo slack

  • @mosaclipz6549
    @mosaclipz6549 Pƙed rokem

    Slack bikes really aren’t good on the shore because it’s too tight

  • @thenormalberries6767
    @thenormalberries6767 Pƙed rokem

    ...all full sus

  • @akiralee1192
    @akiralee1192 Pƙed rokem

    My Canadian Tire bike is faster

    • @pinkbike
      @pinkbike  Pƙed rokem +1

      To load onto the bike rack or??? -Christina

    • @akiralee1192
      @akiralee1192 Pƙed rokem

      @@pinkbike it's not the bike that makes the ride fast. It's the person behind the handle bars.

    • @mulullama
      @mulullama Pƙed rokem

      If the wheels blow up on the first hit, the rider probably won't be able to run downhill faster than any other bike out there lol

  • @ShaftShackDotCom
    @ShaftShackDotCom Pƙed rokem

    65-63* is the magic! 😉

  • @loraklorak3268
    @loraklorak3268 Pƙed rokem

    Christinaaa the girls were working! đŸ„ČđŸ„Č if you do it on a Monday will probably be there lol!

  • @loraklorak3268
    @loraklorak3268 Pƙed rokem

    Christinaaa the girls were working! đŸ„ČđŸ„Č if you do it on a Monday will probably be there lol!