HOW WE FIX BRITAIN | Episode 2: Electoral Reform with Guest Femi Oluwole
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- In this, the second in a weekly series of videos on Labour Social, join Graham Hughes and Femi Oluwole as we explore YOUR concepts, ideas and policy proposals on the topic of *Electoral Reform*: proposals that could revolutionise our relationship with the state in which we live.
We'll be discussing how we make voting more accessible, how we ensure that voters are better informed, and how we create a fairer and more equitable electoral system that works for everyone.
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After the show, CZcams members and Patreon supporters are invited to join host Graham Hughes on Discord to continue the discussion.
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Electoral reform could take time [especially with citizens assemblies to consult] and should be prioritised and no referendum this time to be nobbled by corrupt press.
I want to also see who paid for the candidates. I think it should be public information available through a website. I also want attendance records so we can see who is working from the Caribbean.
Electoral reform. Perhaps if Labour acknowledged their own members vote on PR they could be taken seriously that they want reform
One way to avoid too many parties getting into the commons is what is done in Germany: Any party that wants to get into parliament needs to have at least 5% of the votes or to have won at least 3 constituencies.
I think the second house could be made to enforce standards in govt and seek out corruption. This would allow MPs to be real leaders of the civil service and teachers and health professionals, instead of acting like unfeeling bullies. This would create more accountability, and spread out press attention.
With Femi's system each MP could select one of the original boundaries within their group area and take care of problems from that area.
Prefer an open list. Closed list allows parties to use the power of ranking to reward or punish.
Murdock Fraser never won an election just in off the list every time.
How do you access Discord? I’m paid up for it but I’m struggling to access it
I feel like looking at party’s voting record is so much more relevant than individual mps on sites like they work for us, MPs have to vote in line with their party unless it’s a free vote so doesn’t say anything about their personal thoughts on different matters besides they don’t want to rebel against the party they were elected under. If all MPs could vote regardless of the party decision then what would be the point of parties? a parliament of independently voting MPs would be chaos. there could be reform on what votes are whipped and which aren’t 🤷♂️
Nick Clegg must have been an elite plant.
I don't like the whip system, I feel MPs should vote with their consciences and I don't like the press pushing this "strong leader" agenda all the time.
The tories have no consience ' no morals at all ' they only favour the rich & powerfull ' & only make cuts to the average person & the poor 🤑🤔
"The German system is a mixture of PR and FPTP" Not really. Every constituency votes for a member of parliament to represent that constituency, so you have the direct link to someone from your area in parliament. But It i still fully PR since all parties (that either won 5% of all votes or won 3 constituencies) get as many MPs as they their vote share. Should one party get too many MPs because they won more constituencies than their vote share would justify, the other parties get more MPs. So the parliament gets bigger to keep the numbers of MPs linked to their vote share.
The PR has its downsides too… I can give a little example from the Czech Republic. There was a same sex marriage discussed in the House of Commons. Some of the parties were voting for marriage equality, another parties were giving their hate speeches and bigot opinions and voted against, also created their own laws to pass, to make only man and women eligible for marriage written down as constitutional law.
There was no majority between those two, so it happened that ANO (a one of the parties) had just the amount of seats to decide the whole thing by voting for one or the other. It opened a space for disgusting race on what to give as a bribe to the ANO party for voting for their side of the barricade.
Not saying that the FPTP is better. Definitely not.
Obviously we are a nation of slightly left leaning people!! But the roughly 60% is always split by 3 ways so the tories get in most of the time on roughly 40% of the vote. This is why Reform is great for the left for once. Graham didn't seem to understand his own argument
Tories are blue, Labour are too, we need PR to get something new.
Yeah, but which of the Blue or Blue, as you put it, is most likely to change the electoral system? Hint: FPTP was devised by the Ruling Class to keep the Ruling Class in power for the majority (75%) of the time.
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7 likes?? WTF!!
This comment is unapologetically NOT about sex, but nonetheless..... We have huge amount of work ahead to even begin to repair the enormous damage done to the UK by the parasitic Tori£s. BUT we must be careful... nothing can be taken for granted, there's no room for complacency, even in light of the current polling data. At the last General Election (ie 2019) it took:
864,743 votes to elect ONE Green MP
334,122 to elect each Liberal Democrat MP
50,817 to elect each Labour MP
But only ........
38,300 to elect ONE CONservative MP
Which neatly shows how skewed, underhand, unfair and undemocratic FPTP is, and how the RULING CLASS depend on it in order to stay in power. Sharks hang onto their prey with great tenacity, their teeth point inwards! So what's the danger of FPTP?
1. There's no merit in dividing our effort right now when fighting what is inevitably the two horse race that FPTP creates. Under FPTP, the result must be EITHER Labour OR (repeat) OR CONservative. OK, hung Parliaments and coalitions can be fudged, but they are always sticky brown FUDGE and never end well. So if we want to give the Tori£s a right smacking, then we must ALL pull together, because they start with a host of advantages and massive fiddles that basically amount to fraud.
2. When the RULING CLASS were forced to introduce universal suffrage (ie. the peasants were finally allowed to vote), FPTP was designed BY the RULING CLASS to maximise the chances of the RULING CLASS staying in power. Which is how the Tori£s have held power for 75% of the last 200 years. FPTP is UNDEMOCRATIC, and that's why the RULING CLASS created it. And also the reason they imposed it right across the British Empire, where it remains to this day, locked like a crocodile's jaws into the electoral systems of the vast majority of Commonwealth nations. The ONLY other states that use FPTP - but were never in the British Empire - are Tajikistan and Belorus. And nowhere in Europe. Think about it.
3. VOTE TACTICALLY where appropriate. Check out the only correct website, namely www.stopthetories.vote and do NOT fall for the fake webshites which the Tori£s have designed to mislead you into favouring... the TORI£S. Beware - don't allow them to divert or steal YOUR VOTES!!
4. The only party that can hopefully migrate FPTP into a suitable form of PR is Labour, maybe with the support of LibDems and Greens. The RULING CLASS will certainly NOT give up FPTP and the Tori£s will fight tooth and nail to retain the very "disproportional" system that gives them an unfair advantage. If we are stupid enough to give them the chance. Because if Labour do scrap it in favour of PR, then the parasitic RULING CLASS will be out for good, and they know that full well. The Tori£s will never again win a majority under a democratic, proportionally representative system: they'll be blocked for good from continuing to cheat us out of our democratic rights.
5. To those who moan about Starmer failing to reverse Brexshit, or not committing to changing our electoral law right now, I'd say this: remember the Ming vase, don't run too fast and most certainly do not drop it. Brexshit and PR are NOT key vote winning priorities right now, the TOP, the ONLY PRIORITY is to win this election decisively. Now is NOT the time to rock the boat, demand too much too soon, to expect Starmer to commit to contentious issues or alienate those whom he must attract. The KEY question about electoral change is this: which party is MOST likely to change what is manifestly an outdated and unfair system? Hint: NOT the Ruling Class party that devised it!! And because despite the gross bias towards the Blues, the Reds also currently benefit from FPTP but to a lesser extent, so any transition MUST be undertaken in a well researched, measured, consensual, thorough and timely fashion. Changing FPTP into some kind of PR (there's no quick fix or off the shelf system) is very complex and will take a long time. So again, to those who would normally support Labour but spout things like "they're all the same" or "I won't vote" or "Starmer is just another tory", I'd say this: the outcome of the next GE will be EITHER Tory OR Labour, and the goal is wide open until the polls close at 2200 on the 4th. of July. So what do YOU want? BLUE OR RED? Despite the polls, there is NO room for complacency, cherry picking or dithering.
6. So sort out your VOTER ID NOW! And help out those who don't know how to go about it. Remember, you don't need VOTER ID for postal voting, and you can register and apply for that now. NOW! Students, holidaymakers, the infirm etc: have YOU registered?
8. If in doubt, vote.... A B C
Anything B ut C ONservative.
And if YOU don't vote, then DON'T complain when YOU get a result that YOU don't like. Moaning, apathy, hard left/moderate left division and contentious nitpicking will hinder not generate CHANGE, and that is what the UK needs NOW. TORI£S OUT and OUT NOW!
What's the point of theorising about something that's not going to happen anytime soon.Do you seriously think the Labour Party would consider PR if they have a massive majority.The only way PR will happen is if a third party forces the issue otherwise the two party FPTP system will prevail. Can you imagine people voting tactically so the Lib Dems, Greens or Reform would win seats, no neither would I.