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- The plaintiff claims his ex won't return the engagement ring he gave her after they called it quits. The plaintiff is suing for its value. The defendant believes the plaintiff has lost his mind. The defendant claims she supported the plaintiff financially throughout their relationship.
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I believe every word she said. You can tell by HIS body language she’s telling the truth. He’s broke and need some money
For me it was how vague and wishy washy his version was, vs how specific hers was. Guys on PC, when they’re wrong, are super vague. “Oh we just grew apart. I think her friends/mom poisoned her against me” then it’s the girls turn to speak and she has a very specific story about cheating/abuse/addiction. I think that specificity really shows who is telling the truth.
its more sinister than that she has cut him off from her life and he is looking for a way back in, scary
I have seen a lot of these cases, and sometimes one party will tell small lies to make them look better but it comes back to bite them as then the judge does not believe them. The defendant did not try to lie to say she already returned the ring. When asked if he asked for the ring back, she said he did but she wanted the money he owed her. Her story is they both agreed for her to keep the ring to settle the finances between them and then they went their separate ways six years ago. Her story is just more believable as the truth.
@@AjanlaI don’t think he’s looking for a way back in, I think he still has a substance abuse problem and was trying to come up with ways to get some money
We have no idea
My ruling: dude went through all his dirty laundry being fully aired out on National TV just to see the woman he’s still in love with.
@@camersonLA agreed!
I believe this.
It's more like obsessed with. He doesn't love her.
Yup
I think he needed the money and this was a desperate attempt because he's too proud to get a loan from anyone else and went after an ex that used to support him..
I KNEW THAT IT WAS WAY MORE TO THE STORY THAN HE SAID....SHE'S VERY BELIEVABLE
She is telling the truth and he brought her to court so he could access her and see her again.
This a twisted version of an "I miss you" from an ex
7 years later? I think he was broke
@@jennylynx1869i agree that the guy just needed money and imo decided to go after an ex that supported him and that he got away with stealing from.
I agree, he did not come across as being honest.
Once she started talking He knew it was a mistake to be there.
Asking for a ring 7 years later.... Talk about desperate.
The nerve of him to sit there & lie so bad & say he paid for everything & all this nonsense just to get his businesses aired out in heavy detail & be damn embarrassed 😭💀.
This should be called "The case of the 7 year itch." 😉
He didnt want to support his fiancé while she went to school… Girlfriend of two years…. not a week not a few months
Not to mention he said they were living at his mom house
He didn't want to support her but she was supporting him 😅
She seems like she really tried, and she sounds super loyal.
He is just lucky Doug didn't do the interview after LOL
Exactly i hate the videos where doug isn’t doing the interviews
No, curt is more of an ass and talks smack than Doug that’s why I don’t like him.
They're both jerks.
Doug likes to stir the pot. I love it.
If he had really truly wanted it back he would have sued her 6 months, 1 year, even 2 years after the breakup. To wait 7 years is ridiculous.
Something is fishy. Either he needs money or he's trying to find a way to see her again.
@@BudduredToast exactly!
7 years? Definitely a pill head move.
Statute of limitations. Within those 6 years he never asked for the ring back.
She cut off all ties with him and this is just a vindictive way to get back into her life and it's sad. I hope he gets some counseling.
i dont think theres any statue of this. (JM never mentioned one).
Actually, I believe they said they're from NY, and the statute of limitations for engagement rings is only 3 years, so he was definitely out of gas either way....lol
The Defendant in this case is very well spoken and HAS A BACKBONE... so nice to see this. Plaintiff should be mortified he took her on national television and had his butt handed to him by her truths.
Where do they find those people to answer those questions? They are, I don’t even want to say the word, but not fast.😂😂
I know right!!
I think they Bee trying to say what Harvey wants to hear, because until sometime sides with him, it JM, he keeps asking.
facts
Dude needed money
@@vixxter3099 exactly! Brokie Broke 😂
For pills. $500 a pop ain’t cheap
she dodged a huge bullet, to bring her to court 7 years later 😒
He ain't right in his head !!!
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What in the world would JM ask for just the car thing? Lol omg yeah! Dangerous abusive dude!
I know!
Plaintiff definitely comes across as seriously medicated. Whether that is prescription or not. Dude is so emotionally stunted and monotone I'd wager a bomb could go off behind him and he'd barely notice.
And yeah, totally believe the defendant's side of things. Plaintiff either needs the money or just wants to see her again or both.
I think he still loves her.
Her story is believable unlike his.
SEVEN YEARS LATER.....ARE YOU KIDDING?!
7yrs…. He just wanted to see her
He is a broke addict who thought he had an old payday. Probably he was also hoping to get money from her again, by seeing her. He is the worst kind of ex.
I think he just needed the money. He would have sued her sooner if it was about just seeing her.
Buddy’s still a addict and probably broke and owes his dealer
You don't wait 7 years then all of a sudden ask for the ring back! I would never air my dirty laundry on national TV!!! Have you no other life dude?
What evidence did she show he owed her? None!
She’s fortunate she escaped that relationship. Give him the ring and say goodbye.
After 7 years, I don't think she owes him the ring.
Ppl complaining that he should get the ring back are dense. It's too late to get the ring back. You have a window of opportunity to get the back which is 5 years. Where was he for 5YEARS! He couldn't be bothered to get the ring back for 5 WHOLE YEARS?!? Laws have time limitations. If an 80 year old wanted a ring back from another 80 year old from 60 years ago, that would be crazy.
Y'all trying to defend mens rights not understanding that this has nothing to do with misandry. No wonder he's an addict. He's got enablers everywhere. Even strangers. Be frfr
12:03 When Harvey said “you look scared” and the woman turns and asks her husband “are you scared right now?” HE WAS SILENT. THAT MAN IS TERRIFIED LMAO
He came up with this lawsuit to see her again.
He would have won if he didn’t wait so long. Waiting almost 7 years is suspicious
Maybe she probably had text that he owe her money
He wouldn't have won. The ring was an offset of the money he owed. Once she described how he lost his job and he was a drug addict she was helping to detox...he lost.
Just by the intro as they're walking in, I knew how this was gonna go
It's called Statute of Limitations. I didn't have to watch the case after hearing how long it had been. Even if he had proof that he didn't owe her anything, he still would've lost based on the Statute.
Woww!! The nerve of him to come to court after all she did for him. I can't imagine coming to court after this many years.
Totally good call!
$500 a time for a Doctor to fill out a script, those people should be facing a Judge. They must have to discard their soul in order to live with themselves so ruthlessly over-charging to that extent, people who are grasping at the air for just a short break from pain & misery.
the blank face he makes when she enumerates his misdeeds..you know it's all true!
MILIAN IS SO FULL OF IT. IN NYS THE RING GOES BACK AUTOMATICLY.
BUT THE TIME LIMIT IS 6 YEARS IN NYS.
MILIAN NEVER ASK FOR EXACT DATES, SHE IS SO BOGUS AS A PRETEND JUDGE.
Stop yelling and scroll along😂😂
Somewhere in the middle of both their testimonies is the TRUTH
I'm going to go with the defendant; the one who didn't steal and wasn't addicted to pills.
The first girl to comment on the street really pissed me off. Happy and dumb.
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In most US states, engagement rings are considered "conditional gifts" given with the expectation of marriage. This means that if the marriage doesn't happen, the person who gave the ring is usually entitled to get it back. The reasoning is that the ring symbolizes a verbal agreement to marry, and ownership isn't fully transferred until the wedding takes place.
Yes but that is not an absolute return in all cases. Her defense is that they created a new agreement where she could keep the ring as settlement for money he owed her. In this case neither party had much evidence but her story makes more sense. If he valued that ring so much, one would think he would have sued much sooner.
Did you watch the case or are you a bot?
To be fair yes 7 years is a little to late but the defendant doesn’t has any evidence of all that money and support she gave him nothing but word of the mouth or (flapping gums as the judge would say )and he does have evidence of buying the ring ..
The only thing she should have taking into consideration is 7 years too late for a law suit, my opinion is the judge let her emotions over rule her judgement plain and simple...
Agree with you. I didn't like the way Judge Milian handled this case; it seemed like she got emotionally wrapped in in sympathy for the defendant based on a whole lot of nothing. It's all the defendant's word about how he supposedly owed her - she presented zero proof that any of her help to him was in the form of a loan or that she expected to be paid back. People who are in relationships often help each other financially, and that doesn't make it suddenly turn into a loan after the relationship goes sour. If it was a loan, show documentation of it. Morally, I think she should have given him the ring back, and most jurisdictions would have found in his favor, if he filed in a reasonable amount of time - his biggest failure was waiting for so long to pursue it. Honestly, I think he waited because he naively thought he had a chance to get her back - it had nothing to do with any supposed payback he owed her.
Thats a rough 32
So glad she did not end up with him ! She is absolutely stunning , and could easily get someone better …….with a good job , car , house and money . Girl , last thing you need is a drug addicted , jobless , penniless financial leech stuck to your back .
I think he just wanted to see her again. Smh
I think he thought he could win her back. And they would actually get back together. The ring was an anchor. Once he finally came to terms with the fact it was over, he wanted the ring back. I think it was less about money, and more about anger and closure. He is still working through the stages. That's why he's blaming her mother. It's hard to admit when bad things happen to you, and you are at least partly to blame.
Im so glad I have control of my anger, I never wanna be like this guy over a woman!
He still loves her.
Still using.
I believe her and his own testimony confirms that yea an addict. Him living at home when he had a great position at work tells me he’s bad with money. A mess.
The question of citizenship via marriage should have been explored.
1) What does that have to do with the issue at hand? He said he never got the ring back even though they did not marry. She agrees she did not return the ring but her story is they agreed for her to keep the ring to settle debts her owed her. 2) People acquire citizenship through marriage all the time.
found the bigot in the comments
This guy is not even half a man
if she said the ring was only worth $800, then why would she call it even for $6000??
He is just hard up for money and trying to get it from here, They had an agreement for the ring to offset some of his debt to her. He didn't get crap.. and deserving nothing. Judge made the right call !!
If marriage doesn’t happen ring is returned- UNLESS a new agreement is made. It’s way more likely- which is all it needs to be in court like this- that a new agreement was made and he was fine. That’s why he didn’t care in seven years. But somebody dumb told him ‘the ring is yours no matter what since you didn’t get married’ and now he’s here trying his luck.
The man was living with his mom and then kicked out his fiancé because he wasn’t willing to come off any money supporting her while she was in school. If he really thought that ring was his to keep, he definitely seems the type that would have been here before 7 years.
He is being PETTY! Becsuse she dont want him or need him
Why would you want back
A Thief & a Liar. 👀
He’s not sober now.
Congratulations to the defendant… the guy should get a life . Move on
You could tell she is telling the truth about the relationship
He is a sad sad baby, listen to elsa's words: LET IT GO!!
@@Solwid100 😂
7 yrs is a pretty long time tho lol
So embarrassing for him
Too long to have feelings, but not too long to sue?
💯Exactly😄
Toxic ass ..they make no sense
“The one who got away.”❤
Shes cute and likeable. He looks like an old 32 and miserable. Dude was lucky he even dated her at all.
Hes so scary. He's stocking her.
She’s pretty
Alternative universe tony sopranos and Irina peltsin lol
He busted and disgusted 😒 😂
I believe everything this woman says. His body language and attitude tells you it's true
He needs the money now
No Harvey , you wanted him to be scared that’s just his stance!
He still loves her and realizes he fumbled her. 🤦♀️
What guy cares about the wedding ceremony and reception?
Unless I'm mishearing he says "She did, not me" right after the judge rules. he basically proved the defendant's case
statute of limitations is five years and most states for return of an engagement ring so he should've lost on that grounds anyway without her even having to hear the whole case
waiting six years to sue for an engagement ring....doesnt pass the smell test.....
The judge is RIDICULOUS taking cases that should be dismissed on their face.. She just takes these cases for gossip.. 🤡
She dodged a bullet
You left Hawaii 😅 to visit this mess.
He misses her he knows he had a good woman he knew he did her wrong so he left the ring with her now hes in his feelings 7 years later because hes came to his senses could be hard up for money too
He almost seems too uncomfortable to be the plaintiff... there's something wrong with him.
What difference does it make what the EXACT temperature was?
The lady mentioned whether in her statement so the judge asked another question regarding the temperature.
Good case!
He wanted to go to court just to see her🎉
Narcissist mindset
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Why do women choose sorry men?
You all will disagree but I feel sorry for him. Thankfully she didn’t marry him. Just feel sorry for him….he’s pretty lost.
He still loves her
He's still broke
Poor guy, he said he's 32? Looking more like 42 having had the drug abuse stuff that the defendant brought up! 😟
Looks 33-35 to me!
"Her mother came in between us." Or your chronic unemployment and addiction issues, fella. Guy's in such denial- including thinking he can get the ring or its value 7 years later.
Are they reuploading old cases?
Wht do you want a ring from someone who you don’t like or want to be reminded of. If she had sold it I could see it but she claimed it wasn’t worth 5k so what is the point
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Men will push things all the way up to what they think they can get away with...trouble is, sometimes they take it too far and cross the line...he waited four weeks thinking she'd call...she didn't do it, and then it's oops...sorry my man, looks like you lost a good one
I checked in CA it is 5 years. he is so outta luck.
I am curious. i agree with the verdict. However - if the decision was simply based on the number of years weighing more in favor of the defendant - then I have to wonder: if he sued her right away, then would this have been a different decision? (because then there would be the conflicting stories with her saying that he owed her X amount of money but with no proof, and him having the ring given in contemplation of marraige...and then the number of years would not be a factor, so would the judge need to have the ring given back?
either way I wish them both well. I hope he gets the monkey off his back and I hope they both move on to find happiness, and since they're young they probably will :)
As the judge said, she had two parties that only had their testimonies. Neither had any documentation. The six years weighed more in the defendant’s favor because it made more send to her (and me). It did not make sense if he really wanted the ring back, he could have filed a lawsuit much earlier. It was not a priority for him at best. Her testimony is they settled their debts with the ring six years and parted ways. He did not pursue the ring because they settled. If he waited a year, then the judge would have had a much harder time reaching a ruling. The judge may have inquired for more evidence. Are there any emails, text messages, etc?