Whenever I get to LA, I think I’ll be riding this train in my swimsuit and a T-shirt - then getting off at the end of the line, walking down to the beach, taking my shirt off, and getting into the water!
Watching this as a German, I'm wandering why the train doesn't have priority at junctions? The travel time would be so much shorter if it didn't have to wait at every red light.
@@oregonpaul3752 It's a process, but at least it's going in the right direction. Don't forget that SoCal and Los Angeles in particular have long centered much of it's culture around the automobile. Los Angeles, probably more than any other city in the world, see being able to drive a car as a birth right. Movies have been made about Los Angeles and cars like. Rebel without a Cause, Grease, Fast and Furious, etc. That type of generational stream takes time to successfully swim upstream. But we're making a lot of progress with each new generation of Angelenos.
When they filed the initial environmental impact reports, they had to take in account idle time of cars waiting for the train, under the laws in place at the time. This limited how much priority they could give the train, because cars while idling pollute, especially the older ones used in the calculations at the time. They had to keep that idling to a minimum to theoretically keep pollution to a minimum. The fact this made travel time for the train worse and therefore fewer people would use it (and therefore there would be more cars on the roads to idle in the first place) was not allowed to be a factor in the calculations.
@@Geotpf that calculus has changed as cars have gotten much more efficient as a whole much quicker than earlier thought. Metro has already said they are working on implementing signal prioritization. If I remember correctly, it could require replacing the equipment at intersections or adding smart tech that communicates with the light rail trains.
Watching this while bored at home... I miss riding Metro. Also... 8:12 "Let's call control to get clearance south from 23rd!" 8:18 *code 1 begins* lmao
i think metro could shave off 10 minutes of ride time, considering that a traim waits around 6 minutes just for cars and train is slower, because train needs more tme to slow down and speed up than a car. Itcould also increase frequencies, which is something that both blue and expo line need.
Yet again, great video Metro Sheep... love the wide view of the cab. You think you can do more videos of the Metro horns and possibly p2020 168 Cab View?-only if you want, not gonna obligate you- btw hope you enjoyed your Christmas Day
Great video man, and watching this was oddly relaxing in a way. Also will you do a video going from Santa Monica to East LA once the regional connector opens?
I always keep on forgetting this line will eventually become and merge w/ Gold Line next year. I still have to wonder what line or new line will become Expo again lol
not me watching this because I haven't taken the metro inn almost 2 years because of Covid lol. I used to take it from Downtown LA to go to college at SMC :(
I'm working on a fundraiser video for the Western Railway Museum to acquirer the last P2020. Would it be okay if we use some of your shots in this video?
I cannot wait until the Regional Connector and the three new stations in Downtown L.A, (Grand Avenue Arts/Bunker Hill, Historic Broadway and Little Tokyo/Arts District) opens to the public this summer.
It's ridiculous that a mass transit line has to stop and wait for cars. The train should trigger the next intersection to all red lights and the cars can wait.
Do you know why the operator repeatedly presses the Door Open button to open the doors? Such as at 29:30, where you can see and hear her pressing the Door Open button over and over again even though the doors are already open. Any idea as to why they do this?
Air doors are not to be trusted so easily in case the doors act up on the P2020, that's why this great Expo Line operator spammed the door close and door open buttons.
@@MetroSheepProductionsMSP so by spamming the Door Open button she made sure that all the doors opened and closed? I guess the newer stock has electric doors?
To become an operator for metro, you need to apply to become a bus operator but you need to operate a bus for 2 years and wait until they offer the applications to operate on metro and they assign you whatever line they want you to operate on if you get accepted! After you get accepted you do a 4 week training and pass the exams
@@MetroSheepProductionsMSP you can only be a train operator by being a bus driver first? What if I already have a few years of experience operating trains?
This footage isn’t sped up, it depends on the expo line operator on how fast or slow they operate in street running portions as it’s hard to operate with a bunch of cars getting in the way
In this particular run the train spent approximately 4 minutes stopped at traffic lights. So even with total priority the trip would still be around 40 minutes. The distance from Metro Center to Santa Monica is about 15 miles, and the trip here took about 46 minutes, giving an average speed of about 19 mph or 30 kph. That's pretty good for a line this long, and with the train running part of the way among other traffic.
@@grujber7342 That would require removing some stops along the line, which would make the line less useful, or increasing train speeds in downtown areas with a lot of pedestrian traffic, which has its own safety issues.
@@Tuppoo94 Yeah, unfortuntely, the US hasn't caught up with the rest of the world in terms of internationalized nomenclature. That's beside the point: the trams are on their own track out of the way of any vehicle traffic, so they should be able to have the ability to bypass red lights. If it's accidents the city's worried about, then perhaps it needs to put up timed barriers for when the trams cross the intersection.
@@hcs4life21 Or just put put traffic lights with full priority for the tram. Works fine in the rest of the world, because drivers who ignore them get crushed by the tram, and the average driver intelligence increases!
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Metro Expo Line Station Time Stamps
00:00 - 7th Street/Metro Center
02:11 - Pico
07:43 - LATTC/Ortho Institute
09:47 - Jefferson/USC
12:09 - Expo Park/USC
13:32 - Expo/Vermont
17:19 - Expo/Western
20:25 - Expo/Crenshaw
22:57 - Farmdale
25:04 - Expo/La Brea
26:57 - La Cienega/Jefferson
29:10 - Culver City
30:57 - Palms
34:08 - Westwood/Rancho Park
35:44 - Expo/Sepulveda
37:48 - Expo/Bundy
40:07 - 26th St/Bergamot
42:16 - 17th St/SMC
45:41 - Downtown Santa Monica
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Whenever I get to LA, I think I’ll be riding this train in my swimsuit and a T-shirt - then getting off at the end of the line, walking down to the beach, taking my shirt off, and getting into the water!
I pretty much did that yesterday. I rode the train in swim trunks.
The ultra-wide makes it feel like I'm actually there, standing in the cab. I like it a lot!
Elevation Station Productions Thank You Josh!!!
Watching this as a German, I'm wandering why the train doesn't have priority at junctions?
The travel time would be so much shorter if it didn't have to wait at every red light.
They are working on that. Eventually all light rail lines will have signal prioritization on LA Metro.
@@mrxman581 Thats good to hear! Crazy how much money they are spending on these just for them to sit at red lights!!
@@oregonpaul3752 It's a process, but at least it's going in the right direction. Don't forget that SoCal and Los Angeles in particular have long centered much of it's culture around the automobile. Los Angeles, probably more than any other city in the world, see being able to drive a car as a birth right. Movies have been made about Los Angeles and cars like. Rebel without a Cause, Grease, Fast and Furious, etc.
That type of generational stream takes time to successfully swim upstream. But we're making a lot of progress with each new generation of Angelenos.
When they filed the initial environmental impact reports, they had to take in account idle time of cars waiting for the train, under the laws in place at the time. This limited how much priority they could give the train, because cars while idling pollute, especially the older ones used in the calculations at the time. They had to keep that idling to a minimum to theoretically keep pollution to a minimum. The fact this made travel time for the train worse and therefore fewer people would use it (and therefore there would be more cars on the roads to idle in the first place) was not allowed to be a factor in the calculations.
@@Geotpf that calculus has changed as cars have gotten much more efficient as a whole much quicker than earlier thought. Metro has already said they are working on implementing signal prioritization. If I remember correctly, it could require replacing the equipment at intersections or adding smart tech that communicates with the light rail trains.
Watching this while bored at home... I miss riding Metro.
Also...
8:12 "Let's call control to get clearance south from 23rd!"
8:18 *code 1 begins*
lmao
Looking back, I remember waving to an expo train driver in Santa Monica on Christmas 2019, and having them wave back to me. Ah what memories!
The quality is superb, thanks for filming it!
This is the best cab view of the Expo line I’ve seen!
The wide angle really puts you right there. Thanks so much for this great video Sheep!
Congratulations Sheep!!! Hoping I do mine soon. Wish me luck with my 11.
i think metro could shave off 10 minutes of ride time, considering that a traim waits around 6 minutes just for cars and train is slower, because train needs more tme to slow down and speed up than a car. Itcould also increase frequencies, which is something that both blue and expo line need.
Facts 💯
Why no traffic priority for the light rail?
Footage was filmed on 12/26/2019 with P2020 163A,161,160A as Train 604
Yay you finally did a cab view on expo line
Wow that was so awesome
I remember this expo line back in the 1960s was the southern Pacific railroad Santa Monica branch. Sp ran train's a lot back then
!Excellent shot. Like!
Another clean upload
Yet again, great video Metro Sheep... love the wide view of the cab. You think you can do more videos of the Metro horns and possibly p2020 168 Cab View?-only if you want, not gonna obligate you- btw hope you enjoyed your Christmas Day
Ahhhhh I miss LA so much! This video brings back memories! :)
12:19 - My favourite stop!!
Excellent!
Nice viideo!
I’ve seen this train operator lady before. She gets off the train from the operator room on farmdale station after school
Although I will attempt to find a nice driver and a P2020 to do mines! Nice view!
Great video man, and watching this was oddly relaxing in a way. Also will you do a video going from Santa Monica to East LA once the regional connector opens?
Any idea why the train stopped in the middle, with no station stops, crossings, or signals, and just in the middle of tracks?
I always keep on forgetting this line will eventually become and merge w/ Gold Line next year. I still have to wonder what line or new line will become Expo again lol
not me watching this because I haven't taken the metro inn almost 2 years because of Covid lol. I used to take it from Downtown LA to go to college at SMC :(
I'm working on a fundraiser video for the Western Railway Museum to acquirer the last P2020. Would it be okay if we use some of your shots in this video?
Yes it would be okay
I filmed it too
I cannot wait until the Regional Connector and the three new stations in Downtown L.A, (Grand Avenue Arts/Bunker Hill, Historic Broadway and Little Tokyo/Arts District) opens to the public this summer.
Nice work, do the operators care that you record the whole way through? ive seen another video of a 3010 cab recorded same journey
mario4705 I always make it a point to ask for permission before doing a cab view
Yes but they don’t mind?
Matthew S: well some may not like being filmed so better to ask them before doing it
A train should not have to stop for cars to cross the rails
On a field trip we stoped at pico
It's ridiculous that a mass transit line has to stop and wait for cars. The train should trigger the next intersection to all red lights and the cars can wait.
Those long waits at the lights though...doesn't the train get priority?
It doesn't have proper train priority on the expo line.
46:25 what hapened their lol!
Hey that operator is my moms cusion
I also been there
Do you know why the operator repeatedly presses the Door Open button to open the doors? Such as at 29:30, where you can see and hear her pressing the Door Open button over and over again even though the doors are already open. Any idea as to why they do this?
Air doors are not to be trusted so easily in case the doors act up on the P2020, that's why this great Expo Line operator spammed the door close and door open buttons.
@@MetroSheepProductionsMSP so by spamming the Door Open button she made sure that all the doors opened and closed? I guess the newer stock has electric doors?
@@OliverHarrington Doors are complicated...
I happen to Santa Monica
This probably isnt the place to ask but does anybody know how I could become train operator for metro?
KSGV I can help out with that
To become an operator for metro, you need to apply to become a bus operator but you need to operate a bus for 2 years and wait until they offer the applications to operate on metro and they assign you whatever line they want you to operate on if you get accepted! After you get accepted you do a 4 week training and pass the exams
Damn, you responded before I even got to Bergamot station! Thanks man!
KSGV You’re Welcome! I missed a few details but the first thing you need to do is apply when metro needs bus operators
@@MetroSheepProductionsMSP you can only be a train operator by being a bus driver first? What if I already have a few years of experience operating trains?
Is this footage sped up at all? I remember my trip on expo being a little bit slower...
This footage isn’t sped up, it depends on the expo line operator on how fast or slow they operate in street running portions as it’s hard to operate with a bunch of cars getting in the way
Metro Sheep Productions Ah, right
It is a Japanese style cab.
The train crosses an on ramp to a freeway?!?! That seems like begging for disaster
Metro Sheep Productions Go Metro! Is that right?
They need right of way; would be under 20 minutes oneway
In this particular run the train spent approximately 4 minutes stopped at traffic lights. So even with total priority the trip would still be around 40 minutes. The distance from Metro Center to Santa Monica is about 15 miles, and the trip here took about 46 minutes, giving an average speed of about 19 mph or 30 kph. That's pretty good for a line this long, and with the train running part of the way among other traffic.
@@Tuppoo94 Should be going over 30mph
Trains go 55MPH at times during some parts of the cab signal territory
@@grujber7342 That would require removing some stops along the line, which would make the line less useful, or increasing train speeds in downtown areas with a lot of pedestrian traffic, which has its own safety issues.
I don't understand why the driver stops at red lights. It's not like there won't be any other trains on those tracks.
Because you're supposed to stop at red lights?
@@Tuppoo94 It's a train, not a car.
@@hcs4life21 In most of the world, vehicles like this are called trams.
@@Tuppoo94 Yeah, unfortuntely, the US hasn't caught up with the rest of the world in terms of internationalized nomenclature. That's beside the point: the trams are on their own track out of the way of any vehicle traffic, so they should be able to have the ability to bypass red lights. If it's accidents the city's worried about, then perhaps it needs to put up timed barriers for when the trams cross the intersection.
@@hcs4life21 Or just put put traffic lights with full priority for the tram. Works fine in the rest of the world, because drivers who ignore them get crushed by the tram, and the average driver intelligence increases!
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